CONTENTS
Thanks to Organizations That Support Families of Missing
Loved Ones
Authority of Tire Stewardship of Saskatchewan
Red Dress Day and Support for Families Impacted by
Gender-Based Violence
Health Care Specialists Celebrated During Perfusion Week
New Depot and Partnership Agreement Shows Government
Commitment to Recycling
Multilateral Well Incentive Program Will Promote Growth and
Investment
Opposition’s Position on Provincial Economy
Provincial Fuel Tax and Federal Carbon Tax
Board Appointments and Contract for Tire Recycling
Status of Farm Credit Canada’s Head Office
Saskatchewan Partners with Alberta to Advance Nuclear
Development
Saskatchewan’s Exports in International Markets and Federal
Carbon Tax
PRIVATE MEMBERS’ PUBLIC BILLS AND ORDERS
Motion No. 2 — Suspension of Provincial Fuel Tax
FOURTH
SESSION — TWENTY-NINTH LEGISLATURE
of
the
Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan
DEBATES
AND PROCEEDINGS
(HANSARD)
N.S. Vol. 65 No. 57A Thursday,
May 2, 2024, 10:00
[The
Assembly met at 10:00.]
[Prayers]
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Minister of Crown
Investments Corporation.
Hon.
Mr. Duncan: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker,
I’d ask leave for an extended introduction.
The
Speaker: — Leave has been requested for an
extended introduction. Is leave granted?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
The
Speaker: — Carried.
Hon.
Mr. Duncan: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank
you to my colleagues for the leave for an extended introduction.
Mr. Speaker, today we’re joined by a
number of guests who are here to witness the signing of a significant
memorandum of understanding between the governments of Saskatchewan and Alberta
to advance our collective interests in the nuclear space. And I’ll have a bit
more about that to say in a statement.
First I want to welcome Alberta’s
Minister of Affordability and Utilities, Minister Nathan Neudorf, who is
joining us here on the floor of the Assembly. Mr. Speaker, Nathan is the MLA
[Member of the Legislative Assembly] for Lethbridge-East. He was elected in
2019 and re-elected in 2023. Prior to his election, Nathan worked in commercial
construction. He was involved in the Alberta Construction Association, the
Alberta Construction Safety Association, as well as, I believe, the Workers’
Compensation Board, Mr. Speaker. So I want to welcome Nathan and thank him for
his partnership.
Joining Nathan today from Alberta — and
I believe they are in the galleries — Jon Dziadyk,
his chief of staff; Andrew Buffin, assistant deputy
minister of Utilities; Leo Tovar, a senior policy advisor; and Mike Law, who is
the CEO [chief executive officer] of the Alberta Electric System Operator.
Mr. Speaker, for the announcement today
of the MOU [memorandum of understanding] signing we also had a number of guests
from inside the province. Many of them were unable to join us, but I know that
certainly Kent Campbell, no stranger to this House, president and CEO of CIC
[Crown Investments Corporation of Saskatchewan] is here; Amber Biemans, who is
a board member at SaskPower as well. Ray Orb, the president of SARM [Saskatchewan Association of Rural Municipalities]
joined us at the announcement this morning; and Brian Rakochy,
who is manager of advocacy for SARM, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, it was a pleasure for us to
welcome them here for a very important signing. So I do want to thank Minister
Neudorf for being here today, for his officials that are joining us, and the
guests that joined us for the announcement and those that could stay for
proceedings today.
I would ask all members to welcome them
to the Saskatchewan legislature.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
University.
Ms.
A. Young: — Thank you. Thank you very much, Mr.
Speaker. On behalf of the official opposition, it’s my pleasure to join the
minister in welcoming Minister Neudorf as well as all of the officials and
experts present from Alberta, as well as Brian and Mr. Orb here from Saskatchewan,
and Mr. Campbell and your team as well for being part of today’s announcement.
Mr. Neudorf, the long-standing
relationship between Saskatchewan and Alberta is one that I believe is truly
valued by all members of this legislature. And the work that you and your
government have done in advancing our shared interests when it comes to energy,
when it comes to the economy, and when it comes to affordability — especially
with your government’s introduction and expansion of the gas tax relief program
— is so important and something we hope to get across the line here today.
Who knows? Stay tuned, I suppose. Maybe
you’ll stick around for the vote. But, Mr. Speaker, with that I would like to
sincerely thank and welcome Mr. Neudorf, his officials, as well as all guests
joining us here today.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from Arm
River.
Mr.
Skoropad: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and
through you, Mr. Speaker, seated in the west gallery are two constituents of
mine from the village of Bethune, Dale and Maria Bitz.
Maria runs a home-based business in
Bethune. In addition to that she is an educational assistant at Clive Draycott
School, does amazing work there. And speaking of amazing, she’s an amazing
singer, Mr. Speaker.
Dale, Dale, Mr. Speaker, on the other
hand is not an amazing singer. Actually he’s not very good at all. But he is an
amazing mechanic, Mr. Speaker, where he works at Young’s Equipment in
Chamberlain and has done so for a number of years. And, Mr. Speaker, when my
dad was still farming, his combine was his treasure. He loved it. I think he
loved it more than me quite frankly. And no one touched his combine except
Dale.
And so that just speaks to his amazing
talent. And I would be remiss if I do not mention that he has also been my
amazing best friend for a long time. And he also is a pretty good cousin too.
So with that, I would ask that all
members welcome Dale and Maria to their Legislative Assembly.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Martensville-Warman.
Mr.
Jenson: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and
through you, this morning I’d like to introduce in the west gallery, 54 grade 5
students from Valley Christian Academy in Osler. Yeah, give us a wave. They’re
accompanied today by their teacher, Tyler Golding; as well as parent
chaperones, Carie Mckenzie,
David Cameron, Sharon Balzer, Rachel Baird, Jane O’Soup,
and Nicole Van Ee.
Mr. Speaker, VCA
[Valley Christian Academy] is home to the Lions, and they do great athletics in
that school and they also do great academics. And VCA
is an associate school in Prairie Spirit School Division that will be
converting or changing over to a certified independent school this fall. And
our government is very pleased to be able to work with both Prairie Spirit
School Division as well VCA in this.
So with that, I would like to have all
members of this Assembly welcome these students from Osler’s Valley Christian
Academy to their Saskatchewan legislature.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from Carrot
River Valley.
Mr.
Bradshaw: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and
through you, I would like to introduce the Carteri
family. There’s Cristina Carteri and her son, Angelo,
and Rosa and Pasqualina.
Mr. Speaker, as many of the members here
know, I got hearing aids a few years ago. And she has Optimal Hearing, so I
went there. And the thing is, what I did is I needed hearing aids so I could
hear what the opposition was saying. So I listened very closely. But the other
part is, Mr. Speaker, is I can just turn the hearing aids off if it gets too
bad.
Mr. Speaker, this is the first time that
they have been to the legislature; they call it the ivory palace. And I would
like all members to thank them for coming down here today. So thank you.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Prince Albert Northcote.
We,
in the prayer that reads as follows, respectfully request that the Legislative
Assembly of Saskatchewan take the following action: to call upon the Government
of Canada to immediately suspend the carbon tax across the nation of Canada and
acknowledge its significant impact on affordability and inflation in Canada.
The below undersigned are residents of
Saskatoon and Regina. I do so submit. Thank you.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Saskatoon Centre.
Ms.
Nippi-Albright:
— Miigwech, Mr. Speaker. I rise today for Missing Persons Week. Every missing
person has had their life, as they knew it, stolen away from them. So too
have all the people who love them, who worry and wonder every day, who look for
answers for justice they may never get, who live in fear, who struggle to hold
on to hope. These disappearances are crimes, not just against one person but against
their entire community.
I want to thank all organizations for
the work of supporting families of missing loved ones. They raise awareness
about the missing, and they advocate support and reforms to save others from
having to deal with this pain. In particular, they collaborate with Indigenous
leadership to bring their services to our communities.
Given the never-ending horror that is
the epidemic of missing and murdered Indigenous women, girls, two-spirit, 2S+
[two-spirit, plus], it’s vital to reach out to these communities to help. I ask
all members to join me in thanking all organizations who offer their
commitment, support, and advocacy for families of missing loved ones. Miigwech.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from Saskatchewan
Rivers.
Ms.
Wilson: — Mr. Speaker, it was a year ago in
this Assembly that I started questioning the government about their debacle
with Shercom and the Tire Stewardship of
Saskatchewan. At that time the government promised they would look into the
matter. Now they are saying it’s an arm’s-length organization that they have no
control over.
The decisions this agency makes impacts
our entire province, from tire recycling to environmental stewardship to
government contract winners and losers in business and the economic impacts of
value-added processing. These are all matters the provincial government has a
vested interest in and is responsible for.
Now this government is saying they
created an agency that they have no control over, that is unaccountable and has
no oversight. Well, Mr. Speaker, that sounds about right for this government,
creating more layers of bureaucracy that are unaccountable and out of touch
with the people. Mr. Speaker, Saskatchewan people aren’t buying these excuses.
They expect transparency and accountability from the government and all its agencies.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from Prince
Albert Northcote.
Ms.
A. Ross: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This Sunday,
May 5th Red Dress Day will be commemorated across Canada. Officially known as
the National Day of Awareness for Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women and
Girls, Red Dress Day is held annually to raise awareness of the
disproportionate number of Indigenous people who are impacted by gender-based
violence.
In this year’s budget $800,000 is
allocated for the Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women and Girls+ Community
Response Fund to support grassroots organizations and communities to develop
and deliver projects. The family information liaison unit currently supports
over 170 families to navigate government processes and access support and
information about their loved ones. Last year the fund supported 23 projects,
and applications are currently open for this year.
Our government is allocating
$42.6 million over the next three years to more than 34 community-based
organizations to deliver critical support and services to those families
impacted by interpersonal violence and abuse.
Red Dress Day is an important
opportunity to honour those who are dearly missed by saying their names,
talking about their lives, and holding spaces for those who loved them. Thank
you, Mr. Speaker.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon Fairview.
Ms.
Mowat: — I rise today to recognize Perfusion
Week and celebrate the crucial role that cardiovascular perfusionists play in
cardiac surgery and critical care. The theme of this year’s Perfusion Week is
Connected to Life! which highlights the important contributions of
perfusionists to patient care and outcomes. The life-saving duties of a
perfusionist include operating heart-lung bypass machines during cardiac
surgeries and providing vital support in critical care scenarios. Their
expertise is essential in ensuring the success of complex surgical procedures
and the stabilization of critically ill patients.
[10:15]
This week is not only a celebration of
cardiovascular perfusionists, it’s also a call to action for us legislators. We
must recognize the challenges facing the profession and work with perfusionists
to address these challenges. In every province, including Saskatchewan, there’s
a shortage of perfusionists that requires increased government support to
overcome. But like so many other specialists in this province, they’re
understaffed and under-resourced, and the Sask Party
government is failing to deliver in recruiting and retention of health care
workers.
I ask all members to join me in
celebrating Perfusion Week and in calling on the government to show these
health care specialists the support they need to increase the number of
perfusionists in this province and to ensure everyone can get care when they
need it.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from Arm
River.
Mr.
Skoropad: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker,
the Minister of Environment recently joined Sarcan
employees for the grand opening of their new depot in Watrous. The new depot is
larger, brighter, and more efficient, with an expanded space to receive
customers and for Drop & Go, Sarcan’s popular
line-skipping service.
In conjunction with the grand opening,
the ministry and the Saskatchewan Association of
Rehabilitation Centres signed a new four-year agreement celebrating a 36‑year-long
partnership. This agreement includes program funding of more than
$36 million for ’24‑25 that ensures Sarcan
continues its excellent work of managing and operating the provincial beverage
container program’s depot collection system.
Mr. Speaker, our government is committed
to recycling and the environmental and employment benefits Sarcan
provides the province. Sarcan collected 84 per cent
of the beverage containers sold in Saskatchewan last year. This places
Saskatchewan’s beverage container recycling system as one of the most effective
recycling systems in all of North America. The opening of this new facility
supports the province’s solid-waste management strategy, which aims to reduce
waste per person by 30 per cent by 2030, and by 50 per cent by 2040.
Mr. Speaker, on behalf of the
Legislative Assembly, thank you to Sarcan and their
workers for their dedication to a healthier, cleaner, and more sustainable
province. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from Cypress
Hills.
Mr.
Steele: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Our
government has introduced a multilateral well incentive program to grow
incremental oil production in our province. This innovative technique will put
more rigs and workers in the field and support the growth plan for goals of
increasing oil production to 600,000 barrels per day by 2030. The Ministry of
Energy and Resources estimated between 100 to 200 additional wells will be
drilled in the province per year because of this program.
Lisa Baiton,
president and CEO of CAPP [Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers], has
this to say about the program:
Saskatchewan’s plan
to modernize the royalty regime to recognize the use of new drilling
technologies provides the right policy environment to attract investment to the
province.
A more competitive
royalty framework will help unlock the available oil resources in Saskatchewan
and will in return create more jobs and additional revenues for the government
and municipalities.
This is a win-win for our province,
supporting both economic growth and the services people rely on. It’s another
example of the government committed to creating a stable, predictable,
investment-friendly environment. The increased revenue generated from the
program ensures that our government can continue to invest in our priorities
that matter most to us: Saskatchewan people, classrooms, care, and communities.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Kindersley.
Mr.
Francis: — Mr. Speaker, instead of praising
Saskatchewan entrepreneurs, the NDP Economy critic takes every opportunity to
put dark clouds in front of the silver lining. She thinks as Economy critic
it’s her job to criticize and run down our economy.
But members on this side would like to
take a moment to celebrate and thank our small-business owners. 98.8 per cent
of all Saskatchewan businesses are small businesses. The small-business sector
has increased nearly 45 per cent since 2012. Female-owned businesses have
increased by over 40 per cent since 2010. Small businesses make up one-quarter
of our annual GDP [gross domestic product]. Unfortunately the pandemic closed
many businesses but the fact is, the number of business openings here has
rebounded by 10 per cent.
But the NDP never wants to talk about
success, Mr. Speaker. Their MLA for Saskatoon Nutana said what most of them
really think, and I quote, “There is nothing to be proud of here.” And their
candidate in P.A. [Prince Albert] said, and I quote, “It’s pretty dang
demoralizing to live and work in Saskatchewan.” Wow, Mr. Speaker.
Luckily Saskatchewan people and business
owners don’t share the NDP’s affinity for doom and gloom. Instead they are
hard-working, resourceful, and resilient, and their businesses continue to make
Saskatchewan a great place. Thank you.
The
Speaker: — I
recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Ms.
Beck: — Just awash
in positivity, Mr. Speaker. But yesterday during Premier’s estimates, I asked
the Premier if he thought that Saskatchewan people were facing an affordability
crisis. Here’s what he had to say, and I quote: “I wouldn’t say it’s an
affordability crisis . . .”
Mr. Speaker,
how can the Premier be so out of touch with the cost-of-living crisis that
Saskatchewan families are facing?
The Speaker: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — Here we hear the Leader of the Opposition stand
day in, day out and talk about an affordability crisis in this province, Mr.
Speaker. There’s a vote today that has, should’ve been voted on two weeks ago.
It was actually delayed by the members opposite. And I’d ask, you know, why was
that vote delayed?
It was delayed
because a number of caucus members were attending a Trudeau campaign school in
Ottawa. They answered, Mr. Speaker, those members, those members answered a
call to arms put out by an Ottawa-based labour organization to plot strategy
ahead of the federal election vote, attended a Trudeau campaign school to plot
strategy ahead of a federal election vote.
How could the
Leader of the Opposition say that there’s an affordability
crisis and then delay a vote because they have to go and attend a campaign school
to extend that affordability crisis that Canadians might be facing? I ask again
today. In all seriousness, Mr. Speaker, I ask again today . . . I ask
again today, how could you do that to Saskatchewan people?
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Ms.
Beck: — Mr. Speaker, the Premier knows very
well that it wasn’t a campaign school, and he knows very well I have no problem
standing up to any federal leader, or any provincial leader for that matter,
when it comes to delivering for the people of this province.
Today there’s going to be a vote. That’s
right, Mr. Speaker. And we’re going to see if this Premier really understands
what people in this province are going through. Here’s the question. I’ve asked
it every day this session. Will he finally understand the struggles, the crisis
that people are facing in this province? Will he vote for our call to scrap his
gas tax in Saskatchewan?
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon.
Mr. Moe: — If it’s such a crisis, why did the
Leader of the Opposition delay it two weeks to go support Justin Trudeau and
Jagmeet Singh in extending the affordability challenge that Canadians are
experiencing, Mr. Speaker?
And the wrath of policy decisions coming
from Ottawa, I can assure you that all Canadians are experiencing this the
same, Mr. Speaker. The wrath of the annually increasing carbon tax imposed by
Justin Trudeau, supported by the NDP, committed to yet again yesterday, the NDP
has committed to. They are going to support the increase of that tax from 65 to
$80, Mr. Speaker.
In this province, in this province we
had made the decision through our minister of Crown investment corporations to
remove the carbon tax from home heating natural gas and electricity, Mr.
Speaker. That alone is going to save Saskatchewan families more money than
anything that is put on the floor of this legislature, was supposed to be voted
on two weeks ago, couldn’t be voted on because the members opposite were
attending the Trudeau campaign school. They answered the call to arms to go and
try to get Justin Trudeau elected one more time.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Ms.
Beck: — You know what hasn’t needed a vote,
Mr. Speaker? It is allowing people in this province to have some relief. This
government at any time in the last year could have done what the minister from
Alberta did and suspend the provincial gas tax. The fact is they have chosen
not to.
But, Mr. Speaker, today they’re going to
get a chance to show it on the record. Here’s the question: is the Premier
today going to vote for our motion to suspend his PST [provincial sales tax] on
gas and diesel in this province? And if he’s not, I want to know, Mr. Speaker,
what’s he going to tell the people at the Co-op in Shellbrook about why he
voted no?
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon.
Mr. Moe: — There’s a
lot of resources in this Assembly for the opposition to inquire with today.
There’s the president of SARM here that the member
from Elphinstone might have a few questions for about one of their members. We
have an Alberta minister here that the Leader of the Opposition might inquire
with. Because rest assured, I can say this: that if the Alberta government had
the ability to remove the carbon tax from their home heating natural gas and
electricity, they most certainly would do that.
The question
that the Leader of the Opposition needs to answer today is why we did not vote
on her motion two weeks ago. Why is it such an urgent motion, such an urgency,
Mr. Speaker? The affordability crisis is just that, a crisis, but yet they need
to delay it so that she can attend a campaign school to ensure that Justin
Trudeau can once again be elected in this nation, Mr. Speaker.
That individual, that government supported
by the NDP are putting forward the policies that are causing inflationary
challenges not just for families in Saskatchewan but for families across this
great nation.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Rosemont.
Mr.
Wotherspoon: — Mr. Speaker,
you see the Premier trying to put on a bit of a show for guests from the west
and those in the gallery here today. But the facts of the matter are the facts.
And of course this leader and this opposition brought forward that motion to
suspend the carbon tax. This opposition stands opposed to the carbon tax, but
it’s that Premier who plays silly partisan games day in, day out that of course
have failed Saskatchewan on this front in making that argument.
But this is a provincial government
that’s lost the plot, and they’re out of touch with Saskatchewan people when it
comes to the generational cost-of-living challenge they’re facing. Inexcusably
they’ve stuck Saskatchewan people with more taxes and more costs during this
time. Now today that government will have a chance to vote once again on the
motion to suspend the fuel tax.
My question to the Premier: will he
stand up today and finally offer some relief for Saskatchewan people, and
suspend the fuel tax — the provincial fuel tax — for families across
Saskatchewan?
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Minister of Finance.
Hon.
Ms. Harpauer: — Mr. Speaker, that member opposite is
well aware this is their only platform plan. This is the only thing they have
ever suggested. They actually got on to it once NDP Manitoba gave them the
idea, Mr. Speaker. The savings families will have in the home heating is more
than what they are suggesting.
But interesting, they give us no idea,
no idea of how they would pay for their plan which is again what the NDP do.
We’re going to forgo revenue. Which roads are they not going to fix? Are we
going to go back to the days where the NDP told the citizens of Saskatchewan,
fix your own roads?
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Rosemont.
Mr.
Wotherspoon: — Tired spin, Mr.
Speaker. It’s a real shame that the Sask Party can’t
find their voice on important files for families. And it’s a shame that they’ve
been able to find their voice on the risks and hit facing producers and our economy
with the proposed merger of multinational Bunge and Viterra.
And I raised this, these concerns, and
asked questions to the minister at committee to find out personally what he’s
done on this file to engage, and he didn’t say a word. Not a word.
This is a bad deal for producers in our
province and it shouldn’t go ahead. What’s that Premier going to do to stand up
for Saskatchewan?
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Minister of Finance.
Hon.
Ms. Harpauer: — Mr. Speaker, it is this party and it
is our Agriculture minister that recognizes that agriculture’s the backbone of
our economy, and we will always stand up for our producers.
The minister has consulted with
stakeholders about the proposed merger, and he’s heard their concerns. He met
with the leadership of both companies to ensure our producers’ feedback is
being heard and these companies continue to have presence in our communities.
He made a submission through the Ministry of Agriculture to the Transport
Canada and Competition Bureau, raising the stakeholder concerns that he heard,
and the Competition Bureau’s report addresses some of those producers’
concerns.
[10:30]
Viterra and Bunge can now propose
measures to address the Competition Bureau concerns. And these will be examined
by the Bureau, and the results will be provided to the Minister of Transport.
And we will continue to monitor it as it goes forward.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Rosemont.
Mr.
Wotherspoon: — I asked these
questions to the minister. It was crickets. Not a single word from that
minister. Mr. Speaker, this deal matters to Saskatchewan, and it shouldn’t go
ahead.
I was here when the Sask
Party stood up, and we all stood united against the takeover of the Potash
Corporation of Saskatchewan because it was the right thing to do. But the Sask Party, under this Premier, ain’t
what it used to be.
Here’s what Sask
Wheat, SaskBarley, and APAS [Agricultural Producers
Association of Saskatchewan] have to say about the deal:
The merger may
reduce incentives for Viterra to build its proposed canola crush facility in
Regina, Saskatchewan. The increase in export basis and canola crush margins
would reduce producer income by approximately $770 million per year.
A billion-dollar hit to producers and
our economy, and putting at risk the canola crush project here in Regina. Why
hasn’t that minister, why hasn’t that Premier done anything to stop this bad
deal for Saskatchewan?
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Minister of Finance.
Hon.
Ms. Harpauer: — Mr. Speaker, I don’t think the
member opposite heard my previous answer, quite frankly, when I described all
of the steps that have been taken. Viterra and Bunge have, they have an
opportunity to provide measures to address these concerns. And there will be a
report from Minister of Transport, which is expected to be in June of 2024. We
will be letting the process move forward and watch it closely.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Rosemont.
Mr.
Wotherspoon: — Mr. Speaker,
it’s a bad deal for Saskatchewan. Producers’ incomes would take a
billion-dollar hit. Value-add jobs and the canola crush project would be put at
risk. Downtown head office jobs in Regina and good jobs all across Saskatchewan
would be put at risk.
Here’s what the Competition Bureau had
to say: “The proposed acquisition of Viterra by Bunge is likely to result in
substantial anticompetitive effects and a significant loss of rivalry between
Viterra and Bunge in agricultural markets in Canada.” It’s a bad deal, Mr.
Speaker. It’s a bad deal, Mr. Premier.
Why has the Ag minister been missing on
this file? Why was he crickets instead of standing up for Saskatchewan? Is the
Ag minister the Agriculture minister for Saskatchewan or for a big
multinational conglomerate? Why won’t that Sask Party
stand up for Saskatchewan?
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon.
Mr. Moe: — That’s a fair question coming from
the opposition, Mr. Speaker, considering the Ag ministers that they appointed
in years gone by. But I can assure Saskatchewan residents that the three Ag
ministers that we’ve had, including the current Ag minister, is going to have
the back of our agricultural producers day in, day out, Mr. Speaker, has his
entire career because he’s one of them. He’s one of them.
Mr. Speaker, I can also assure
Saskatchewan ag producers that the Premier of this province and the
Saskatchewan Party government of this province is going to have the back of
rural Saskatchewan residents and going to have the back of all of those that
are in the ag industry — whether it be primary production or value-added
production that we see today — as we see investments pouring into this
province, yes, interest from international companies, Mr. Speaker.
But rest assured with this. We know that
the Competition Bureau has made comments on this. We’re now looking at the
companies and to the reaction that the companies are going to make. And we’re
watching that very closely, Mr. Speaker.
And if the members opposite think for
one minute that myself or this Ag minister or this government or the MLAs on
the governing side are not going to stand up for the agriculture industry and
the ag producers and all of those that are involved, whether it be in downtown
Saskatchewan or across this great province, Mr. Speaker, they got another thing
coming.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Elphinstone-Centre.
Ms.
Conway: — Lots of huffing and puffing today,
Mr. Speaker. Nice to see the Premier get up on that question. Maybe we’ll see
him finally get up to answer this one.
The Sask
Party’s tire fire of a deal still has so many unanswered questions. We still
haven’t got an answer about the Premier’s meeting with folks from Shercom back in 2016, when they say the Premier himself
made promises that they would have access to the scrap tires they need for
their value-added manufacturing in their business in Saskatoon going forward.
The current minister has had the chance
to get briefed up on this file, to walk over to the Premier, and have a chat
with him. So did the Premier make that promise in 2016, and if so, why did he
break it?
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon.
Mr. Moe: — Mr. Speaker, that question was
answered yesterday. I want to read a quote into the record:
Richard inspires
confidence, trust, and integrity. His passion for rural governance is like none
other. His leadership and dedication to making a difference to municipalities
has not gone unnoticed. He has had immeasurable impact on the people of
Saskatchewan over many decades.
That is why Richard (Porky) Porter was
appointed to the TSS [Tire Stewardship of Saskatchewan] board by the internal
appointment process that they have, not by government, Mr. Speaker. And those
are the words, that quote, pardon me, are not my words. Those are the words of
Ray Orb, the president of SARM. So the member from
Elphinstone, rather than slandering members of this province on the floor of
this Assembly, could have the opportunity to ask . . .
The
Speaker: — Premier. I ask the Premier to
withdraw and apologize for that comment.
Hon.
Mr. Moe: — I withdraw and apologize.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Elphinstone-Centre.
Ms.
Conway: — Mr. Speaker, I’ll ask the question
again. It was about the promises that Shercom says he
made in 2016. Did he make those promises, and if so, why did he break them?
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon.
Mr. Moe: — As I said, I answered that question
yesterday, Mr. Speaker, and I would say that when this government does make
appointments — like any other government, and I had made a number as the
minister of Environment in my time there, as current ministers of Environment
do — we choose to make those appointments on the merit of the individuals that
are there.
And we have made many appointments on
the advice of various organizations like SARM, like
SUMA [Saskatchewan Urban Municipalities Association], labour organizations,
union organizations, Mr. Speaker, as well as recommendations that come from
elected members across the province. We’ve made those types of appointments to,
for example, the Saskatchewan professional outfitters commission, as we know,
Mr. Speaker.
We have made the appointment, the Deputy
Premier had appointed the former NDP leader — prior to being the NDP leader; I
think he had ran twice but hadn’t succeeded yet — to the Advisory Group on
Poverty Reduction. Janice MacKinnon is currently serving on our
Saskatchewan-first tribunal.
Many other appointments, Mr. Speaker,
non-partisan, not ideological appointments, appointments made on the very merit
of these particular individuals. And these are individuals that this government
is not going to bring their name to the floor of this Assembly, not going to
smear their reputation on the floor of our provincial Legislative Assembly. And
I would ask the members opposite to not do that either, to hard-working
Saskatchewan people that are building their community, building our province,
and building a better nation like they choose to, day in, day out.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Elphinstone-Centre.
Ms.
Conway: — Mr. Speaker, my question didn’t
touch appointments. We do have some of those questions, but I didn’t ask that
question. Mr. Speaker, there are more unanswered questions about this deal,
like why the government decided to exclude the company already doing the work
in Saskatoon from a lucrative tire contract.
And what’s in those two studies that
apparently justify this whole mess? The Saskatoon chamber has called for that
report to be released. We have called for that report to be released. Why won’t
the Sask Party be transparent for once and release
that report? And if there are commercially sensitive facts in that report, why
won’t they release a summary to the public today?
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon.
Mr. Moe: — Mr. Speaker, those questions need to
go to TSS. They’re an industry-led board, Mr. Speaker, industry-led board that
is making decisions with respect to the RFPs [request for proposal].
Industry-led boards with people that are appointed to it, merit-based
appointments to that particular board, like many other boards, like Mr. Meili who
was appointed to a board by this government, like Janice MacKinnon. We have a
former NDP candidate that this government chose to appoint to the Bench in
Saskatchewan, merit-based, and I would say is serving the people of
Saskatchewan very, very well, Mr. Speaker.
This is a government that will not smear
Saskatchewan people that are making for a better community, Mr. Speaker. We
will appoint them to positions based on their merit. All
we ask is that when you are part of a party that is attempting to vie for votes
and form government in this province, why would you bring people’s
. . .
The Speaker: — Premier. I ask the Premier to
withdraw and apologize for the comment about buying votes.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — Vying.
The Speaker: — Buying . . . Did you say buying?
Hon. Mr. Moe: — Mr. Speaker, I said vying, but if
you heard buying, I would withdraw and apologize.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina Elphinstone-Centre.
Ms. Conway: — Mr. Speaker, every time we ask about this
report, that Premier points to the independent, arm’s-length TSS on this tire
fire of a deal. If only that were the case, Mr. Speaker.
The Premier’s
true friend Richard (Porky) Porter was appointed to the SaskWater
board by the Premier just a few months after he joined the cabinet. Then Mr.
Porter chaired the advisory committee that created the TSS, and then was
appointed a member at large to the TSS. And this is someone who has donated
thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars to that Sask
Party and to that Premier’s own leadership campaign.
How can people
continue to accept that these boards are independent when that Sask Party keeps stacking them with their true friends and
their donors?
The Speaker: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — [Inaudible interjection] . . . Not you
but your colleagues. Mr. Speaker, with respect as I said to the appointments
that are made, this government makes numerous appointments. Many have served or
supported both sides of the House in this Assembly, Mr. Speaker. And we will
continue to make those appointments on merit.
For example,
when it comes to transitional boards or when it comes to
transitional committees, it isn’t that long ago on the recommendation of
individuals in this Assembly, Mr. Speaker, it was myself actually as the
minister of Environment that appointed to the transition committee for the
Saskatchewan professional outfitters an individual by the name of Ray Beck. He
most certainly served and served well not only on that transitional committee
but served well on the interim board of the Saskatchewan professional
outfitters. That recommendation came from a Member of the Legislative Assembly,
Mr. Speaker.
And I would say at this point in time,
on behalf of the government, on behalf of the government, I would say thank you
to Mr. Porter for his service and I would say thank you to Mr. Beck for his
service as well.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Saskatchewan Rivers.
Ms.
Wilson: — Mr. Speaker, it has come to my
attention that Farm Credit Canada is planning to close its head office in
Regina and move it to Quebec. This would be disastrous result for Saskatchewan.
Can the Premier confirm or deny this move?
The
Speaker: — I
recognize the Minister of Finance.
Hon. Ms. Harpauer: — We have not been apprised of that information,
so we don’t have anything to comment on.
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from Saskatchewan Rivers.
Ms. Wilson: — Saskatchewan farmers are just beginning their
spring work, Mr. Speaker. There is enough added stress with higher production
costs and now the potential of changes to their main lending institution. While
we agree with the Premier’s harder stance with the Prime Minister, these
actions have consequences. CRA [Canada Revenue Agency] is set to audit the
province and now rumours say that the feds will move FCC [Farm Credit Canada]
from Regina to Montreal.
What is the
Premier’s plan B?
The Speaker: — I recognize the Minister of Finance.
Hon. Ms. Harpauer: — Again we don’t answer questions on rumours that
someone may have heard somewhere. We have heard nothing on this. There would be
concerns for sure. It’s the same when the NDP closed all of the rural service
centres. There was a concern raised by our party. There would be concerns
raised should it be more than just a rumour.
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from Saskatchewan Rivers.
Ms. Wilson: — Mr. Speaker, on the subject of small modular
reactors, the government said this Monday they won’t make a decision on
pursuing it until 2029. Mr. Speaker, they are betting our future on it. They
have already committed to shutting down our coal. That is guaranteed. It has
already begun. Just ask the people in Estevan.
The government
told us don’t worry; SMR [small modular reactor] will
save us. Now they are backtracking and stating they are still deciding. Mr. Speaker,
it doesn’t sound like they have a plan. The only guarantee we have from this
government is that they will kill our coal and shut down
natural gas to build solar panels and wind turbines.
Can the government be clear? What does
their net zero plan look like?
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Minister of Crown
Investments Corporation.
Hon.
Mr. Duncan: — Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. To
be clear, it’s decisions made by the federal government that are going to
impair the ability for the province to be able to run our coal fleet to its end
of life. That’s the Liberal-NDP coalition in Ottawa, Mr. Speaker.
With respect to SMRs,
I’ve always been clear that we’ll make a decision likely in that 2029 time
frame, Mr. Speaker. We’re doing our due diligence and signing agreements like
the MOU that we have with Alberta. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Saskatchewan Rivers.
Ms.
Wilson: — Mr. Speaker, if the government plans
to gamble with our energy grid to achieve their net zero agenda, they should be
transparent with the public about the SMR technology.
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It is highly experimental technology. As
of 2023 only China and Russia are operating SMRs on
this scale. The one in China is only half the capacity of what the government
plans. The ones in Russia are unknown as we have no data on them. Last year
seven US [United States] states cancelled their project to build SMRs, calling it a giant financial debacle. To make matters
worse, the company this government has contracted to build their reactors have
never even built one before.
With so little data supporting this
transition, why is the government bound and bent to pursue their net zero
agenda, killing Saskatchewan coal and natural gas?
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Minister of Crown
Investments Corporation.
Hon.
Mr. Duncan: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’m
disappointed to hear the member opposite, the leader of the United Party,
indicating that she’s against nuclear power for the province of Saskatchewan,
Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, I would just say that first
and foremost GE [General Electric] Hitachi is working very closely with
organizations like Ontario Power Generation, one of the largest nuclear
providers of generation in this country. GE Hitachi is going through the
process of the design of that reactor, Mr. Speaker.
But I would also say, the GE Hitachi is
the BWRX‑300, Mr. Speaker. It’s a boiling water
reactor; that’s where the BWR comes from. The X means
10. It’s the 10th generation, so we’re very confident that this technology will
be one of the ways that we’ll move forward with ensuring that we have reliable,
safe, and affordable energy for Saskatchewan, should we make that decision in
the next couple of years. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Crown Investments Corporation.
Hon. Mr. Duncan: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, earlier
today I was pleased to sign a memorandum of understanding between the
governments of Saskatchewan and Alberta to further
collaborate on advancing nuclear development, industrial decarbonization, and
enhancing our electrical grid capabilities. I want to thank Nathan Neudorf,
Minister of Affordability and Utilities in Alberta for joining us in Regina
here for the MOU today.
Saskatchewan has a long-standing, co‑operative
relationship with Alberta on energy development, and we share similar
challenges and opportunities related to the changing energy landscape. The
potential deployment of nuclear power from SMRs is an
exciting option to produce non-emitting, safe, and reliable baseload power for
Saskatchewan families and businesses.
While the decision to deploy small
modular reactors in Saskatchewan won’t be made until 2029, there is significant
regulatory and preparation work that needs to be done now to facilitate an
informed decision in 2029.
Mr. Speaker, by signing this MOU,
Saskatchewan and Alberta are formalizing a partnership to work together on
advancing nuclear power generation, navigating a complex regulatory
environment, developing the supply chain associated with the nuclear industry,
training a nuclear-capable workforce, and enhancing our system reliability
through increased grid interconnections.
The work being done by our government is
in pursuit of a shared goal — growing our province and supporting our
residents, communities, businesses, and industries with affordable, reliable,
and sustainable power. By sharing knowledge and experiences between jurisdictions,
we are building a cleaner and brighter future for our citizens and benefiting
communities across our province, including those located in our rural,
northern, and Indigenous communities.
I look forward to continued
collaboration between Saskatchewan and Alberta and seeing the many ways that
our provinces can support each other as we navigate this complex nuclear
journey. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
University.
Ms.
A. Young: — Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
And again twice in one week, my thanks to the minister for a copy of his
remarks in advance, and to my new pal for the day, Minister Neudorf. Thank you
for your presence here in Saskatchewan, and the strong real commitment shown
through the signing of this MOU.
And I also want to take a special moment
and thank you and thank your government for having taken note of the position
that we, as the official opposition, have and have talked about publicly when
it comes to the federal government’s goals for net zero by 2035 being too far
and too fast. And we want to thank you for your public recognition of those
positions and for sharing them wide and far.
Now, Mr. Speaker, provincial alignment
in the west when it comes to our economies to energy is the mainstay of our
beautiful country. And hearing the commitment championed by both ministers
today on decarbonization, on grid enhancement, and on advancing nuclear
development is an affirmation of the long-standing relationship between our two
provinces.
And having supply chains developed and
supported in Saskatchewan is essential. Recently Ontario Minister Smith has
stated that Ontario has 80 per cent of the supply chain when it comes to SMRs and had more to say when it came to the associated
labour and knowledge economies, Mr. Speaker. That is not good news for Alberta.
That is not good news for Saskatchewan.
And now I hear today that the minister
has chosen to clarify that the decision on nuclear has not been made. Because
if this is the right choice for Saskatchewan — and SMRs
may be the right choice for Saskatchewan — there is significant information
that remains and should be forthcoming. Because by this government’s own
measures, each SMR will come at a cost of 5 to
$7 billion each.
But surely by this stage SaskPower must
have an actual estimate of the cost, given its stage 3 future-supply-options
analysis which projects to 2050. The cost of four-generation supply options
include three SMRs. In the legislature and in the
province, questions remain. Today though, Mr. Speaker, it seems that the 2029
decision horizon remains.
Now in regards to the MOU today
formalizing the day-to-day work of the governments of Saskatchewan and Alberta,
formalizing the sharing of knowledge and expertise is good news for both
Saskatchewan and Alberta, and truly must be a remarkable achievement for this
government. A glorious, heady day for all, for both governments and all today.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Moosomin.
Mr.
Bonk: — There are occasions, Mr. Speaker, as
Gwendolen remarked in Oscar Wilde’s The Importance of Being Earnest,
when “it becomes more than a moral duty to speak one’s mind; it becomes a
pleasure.” And, Mr. Speaker, today we’re talking about international trade —
the policies of our government and how it’s increased our trade to
$49.3 billion.
I like it so much actually, Mr. Speaker,
I’m going to read the motion right at the beginning:
That this Assembly
supports the Government of Saskatchewan’s policies and investments that have
led to the value of the province’s exports increasing to $49.3 billion in
2023 while expanding the province’s access to international markets; and
further,
That the Assembly
condemns the provincial NDP opposition for continuing to collaborate to keep
the unsustainable Trudeau-NDP coalition carbon tax government in power.
In fact I’m going to sign it; I like it
so much.
Mr. Speaker, international trade is so
important to Saskatchewan. And it’s important to me, Mr. Speaker. I spent 25
years of my life in international trade. I worked on four continents exporting
products from Saskatchewan, promoting our producers, working to help our
producers reach international markets, Mr. Speaker. I had the honour of serving
as minister of Trade in this government for a while, and I can’t say how much
of an honour that was to help our producers find their voice on the world stage
and get the rightful recognition that they deserve after so many years of being
ignored by the previous NDP governments.
But Mr. Speaker, international trade is
the lifeblood of the international economy. It’s how the entire world works.
Mr. Speaker, when we have something here that we’re good at producing and we
need something from somewhere else where they’re good at producing it, we
trade. This is what our province has been built on. This is how North America
has become the powerhouse that it is, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, there was a political
philosopher in Scotland named Adam Smith. And Adam Smith, he was a really
interesting guy. And he was worried about the citizens of Scotland and he was
wondering, what can we do to increase the happiness of the citizens? That was
where he started from, that was his philosophical point.
And in 1776, he wrote a book, his
seminal work called The Wealth of Nations. And in that book he
highlighted, or laid out, some ways where he thought he could maybe help his
citizens to increase their happiness by increasing their productivity, by
increasing their wealth, and in turn helping those around them.
He laid out five special points in his
thesis. The first point was specialization, and he used a very interesting
example with this. He said, imagine one person is producing pins, little metal
pins. He said one person can produce about 20 pins by themselves in a day. He
said, but with specialization, if you had 10 people working in specific areas
of expertise producing pins together, those 10 people could produce 48,000 pins
in a day.
Mr. Speaker, we can even highlight this
example more if we look at what Milton Friedman used in his example of pencils.
He said it’s impossible for one person to create a pencil. He said as strange
as that sounds, it’s almost impossible for one person to make a pencil. He
said, just imagine, the wood from a pencil would be cut down in a forest, maybe
in British Columbia, but it was cut down with a saw. The saw was made with
steel; the steel was made with iron ore. The iron ore was imported from
somewhere; it was made by a person in a factory somewhere.
If you go further and you look at the
lead that’s in the pencil, it’s not even lead actually. It’s graphite.
Graphite’s probably made in a mine in South America, and it’s been transported
by other people to North America where the pencil was assembled. For example,
take a look at the eraser. The eraser is made of rubber. Rubber has probably,
probably come from Malaysia actually, but rubber trees aren’t native to
Malaysia. They’re actually from South America and they were brought to Malaysia
with the help of the British government about 300 years ago, Mr. Speaker.
Then you look at the brass ferrule or aluminum ferrule that’s holding the eraser to the pencil.
That was made in a factory somewhere. We don’t know exactly where that would be
made. In China? We’re not sure. You look at the paint on that pencil. The
paint, we don’t know where it was manufactured, but probably the chemicals for that
paint came from a factory in Germany.
It takes thousands of people in
thousands of industries from many different countries to create a pencil. This
is the importance of trade, which is the next point that Adam Smith had in his
thesis. Trade is what helps all of us to . . . We can produce what
we’re good at. We can buy what we’re not good at or it’s not cost-effective for
us to make. And with that we can accumulate wealth, which is his next point.
Wealth accumulation is not accumulating
money for the sake of accumulating money, Mr. Speaker. It’s for the innate need
of individuals to better themselves, to better their situation for their
families. They’re not doing this out of greed. They’re not doing this out of
spite for their neighbour or to put someone down. They’re doing this to help
themselves, to raise up their whole community, their entire family, Mr.
Speaker. It’s a very good thing.
The next thing he points out, his fourth
point, is market signals. Mr. Speaker, the market knows. The market can tell
you what is in need, what isn’t in need. This doesn’t come down by a government
edict from someone in a grand office at command central, Mr. Speaker. The
market is nimble. The market is quick. It can tell what we need when we need it
and it can react.
His fifth point which was called the
invisible hand, Mr. Speaker — this is the important, important point — that
people left up to their own devices will find the most efficient way to
allocate capital and resources, not the government. You don’t see us
. . . You go to any park in the world, you’re not going to see
statues of a committee. It’s always people, individuals who found a need, who
created a solution, and with that created wealth for their people, their
families, and their communities, Mr. Speaker.
One of the things that’s very
interesting when you look at what Adam Smith . . . his position he
brought forward was comparative advantage. And, Mr. Speaker, comparative
advantage is Saskatchewan’s superpower. There is no other place on earth that
has the comparative advantages that we have here. We are superpowers in
agriculture. We have some of the largest potash reserves on earth; uranium
reserves on earth; energy. You look at our oil, our natural gas. You look at
our manufacturing, Mr. Speaker.
I’m just going to highlight a few little
points here, and I’m going to speak in code. Or I’m just going to talk about
agriculture, but code for the members opposite. In ’22 Saskatchewan exported
approximately, based on dollar value, 56 per cent of the world’s — the world’s
— canary seed exports, 45 per cent of the world’s lentil exports, 37 per cent
of the world’s dry pea exports, 33 per cent of the world’s durum exports, 24
per cent of the world’s mustard exports, 23 per cent of the world’s canola oil exports,
20 per cent of the world’s oat exports, 19 per cent of the world’s canola meal
exports, 14 per cent of the world’s flaxseed exports, 14 per cent of the
world’s chickpea exports, 12 per cent of the world’s canola seed exports, 6 per
cent of the world’s rye exports — and I’m pretty sure we know how they left
this province — 4 per cent of the world’s non-durum wheat exports, and 4 per
cent of the world’s barley exports.
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Now, Mr. Speaker, I’m going to mention
my good friend the member from Melfort. He always likes to talk about the
Saskatchewan Party’s guiding principles. And they are worth a read if you
. . . I have to agree with him. The first and, I would dare to say
the most important of all of our guiding principles is “economic growth and job
creation through the private sector, not government, as the engine of the
economy.”
Now, Mr. Speaker, this is the
fundamental difference between our party and the members opposite. If you were
to switch “the private sector” and “not government” in a different order,
basically you can . . . that’s the difference between us and them.
We believe in the power of our
individuals. If we were to leave them up to what they’re good at — get out of
the way, and let them produce — it’s amazing what this province will
accomplish. And our government supports our producers. We support our private
industry. And there’s a few ways that we do that. One is by low taxes. We have
one of the lowest tax regimes in all of Canada and, I dare say, North America.
We
support our exporters through programs and organizations like STEP,
Saskatchewan Trade and Export Partnership. I’ve had the privilege of being on
. . . I can’t even count how many trade missions with STEP in the
past, and I am such a fan of the work they do, how they connect, they link
Saskatchewan producers with global markets. It’s amazing the work they do on the
intel side, on helping our producers find new markets, and finding their way
through government regulations in other countries.
Another
way that we help our producers, Mr. Speaker, is by trade offices. We have nine
trade offices, in Germany, Japan, China, Vietnam, Mexico, Singapore, United
Arab Emirates, UK [United Kingdom], and India. And this is so important, Mr.
Speaker. I don’t know if . . . I’ve spent, like I mentioned, a fair
part of my life working in international trade.
And
the way it works now is if someone is interested in a Saskatchewan product,
they would go to a Canadian embassy. That Canadian embassy is staffed by
someone there who doesn’t really know usually very much about Saskatchewan
products, about agriculture for example, or potash, because these are unique to
Saskatchewan. Mr. Speaker, it is so important that we have our own people there
who understand our industries, understand what we’re doing, and are able to
help us to export our products. And it’s so important also for that
government-to-government connection in a lot of these countries, Mr. Speaker.
But
I want to say one thing that is so important is predictability, stability, and
reliability. That is what our customers are looking for. That’s what our
producers are so thankful that we have this government in place and has
provided that, Mr. Speaker.
And
I’ll just contrast that a little bit with what happened under the NDP
government, and there’s a long list of horrible NDP governments that we’ve had
in this province. But I want to just say maybe the most pernicious and I think
ill-advised government that we’ve ever had was the Blakeney government when
they were nationalizing, nationalizing private industry in this province, Mr.
Speaker. They actually took companies from people who made good-faith business
decisions, and said we’re taking what you have. We’re stealing it, but we’re
going to give you . . . We’re going to offer you compensation at what
we decide.
Mr.
Speaker, here’s a quote from K+S CEO Norbert Steiner.
He said, “that even more than a generation later, you can hardly believe that
such an act could happen in a country belonging to the Western world.” This is
in your generation, Mr. Speaker. It’s unbelievable.
I
just want to read something else from economist Milton Friedman when he said:
The world runs on individuals pursuing their separate
interests. The greatest achievements of civilization have not come from
government bureaus. Einstein didn’t construct his theory under order from a
bureaucrat. Henry Ford didn’t revolutionize the auto industry that way. In only
the cases in which the masses have escaped grinding poverty, the only cases in
recorded history are where they have had capitalism and largely free trade. If
you want to know where the masses are worst off, it’s exactly in those kinds of
societies that are departed from it, so that the record of history is
absolutely crystal clear that there is no alternative way so far discovered for
improving the lot of the ordinary people that can hold a candle to the productive
activities that are unleashed by the free enterprise system.
Mr.
Speaker, our policies work. You can see it by the . . . And if anyone
doubts it, look at the difference in the numbers between 2007 and what we have
today. This isn’t accident. Policy matters, Mr. Speaker. We’re there to support
our industry. We’re there to support our producers. We’re there to provide the
framework for them to succeed. We’re not there to tell them how to do what they
do. Our job is to set the necessary framework of regulation and taxation and
get out of the way. Let them do what they do, and they do it the best in the
world, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
I’ll
read the motion again, Mr. Speaker:
That this Assembly supports the Government of
Saskatchewan’s policies and investments that have led to the value of the
province’s exports increasing to 49.3 billion in 2023 while expanding the
province’s access to international markets; and further,
That the Assembly condemns the provincial NDP opposition
for continuing to collaborate to keep the unsustainable Trudeau-NDP coalition
carbon tax government in power.
I
so move, Mr. Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker: — It has been moved by the member from
Moosomin:
That this Assembly supports the Government of
Saskatchewan’s policies and investments that have led to the value of the
province’s exports increasing to 49.3 billion in 2023 while expanding the
province’s access to international markets; and further,
That the Assembly condemns the provincial NDP opposition
for continuing to collaborate to keep the unsustainable Trudeau-NDP coalition
carbon tax government in power.
I
recognize the member from Regina University.
Ms. A. Young: — Wow. Well thank you. Thank you very
much, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Not really sure if this is a debate right now, but
always a pleasure to have the opportunity to talk about the economy and to talk
about this government’s record.
I
want to start off by thanking the member opposite, who’s one of my favourites,
for this opportunity. I believe, you know, like an actual, solid, staunch right
winger, true libertarian, who actually believes in his values and tries to live
his principles. And it must be incredibly challenging for him, Mr. Deputy
Speaker, to sit there as part of the biggest government in Saskatchewan
history, to sit there as part of a government that has tripled the take on the
PST, that in 2024 alone has increased PST revenues by 17 per cent, a government
that is . . . I mean, I was going to say is balancing its budget, but
I suppose it isn’t actually balancing its budget, but is cushioning its own
deficit to the tune of nearly half a billion dollars on its own carbon tax.
I
applaud the member for his courage in continuing to stand with the biggest
government in Saskatchewan history and some of the profound thoughts that he
put on the record, Mr. Deputy Speaker, including those that, you know,
“international trade is the lifeblood of the international economy.” I believe
that’s a direct quote. True, Mr. Speaker. No disagreement.
But
maybe let’s start with disagreement and get that out of the way. As members in
this House will be familiar — and what a pleasure it is to stand and say it
time and time again — this side of the House, Mr. Speaker, has no truck or
trade with the feds when it comes to their energy policies, their economic
policies, the carbon tax, or anything like that, making life more expensive and
harder for Canadian people. So sure. Yes, like we agree. We agree. Carbon tax,
not on. Policies of the federal government, that coalition, not on for
Saskatchewan. We’ve been clear in this House. We’ve been clear in Ottawa. We’ll
continue to be clear every opportunity presented to us, and I thank the members
opposite for that.
But
let’s talk about the first part of the motion, Mr. Deputy Speaker, that we
support the Government of Saskatchewan’s policies and investments that have led
to the value of provincial exports increasing to $49.3 billion in 2023.
You
know, I know I’m going to run out of time, Mr. Speaker, because I have too much
written down already, but maybe that’s a great place to start. Because, you
know, when we want to talk about exports, like merchandise exports in 2023 are
down, let’s talk about the facts. They’re down 6.4 per cent, Mr. Speaker. And
the things that this government wants to take responsibility for, the value of
exports, jobs created, a strong and growing economy . . . The people
creating an economy are not the members opposite, Mr. Deputy Speaker. It’s the
business owners, it’s the farmers, it’s the miners. It’s the co-operatives,
it’s the small businesses, it’s the big businesses doing that here in
Saskatchewan.
It
is not the Government of Saskatchewan and it is not members opposite, unless,
unless I missed it in the member from Moosomin’s remarks that they’ve got some
sort of centrally planned economy that they’re promoting over there, Mr.
Speaker. I’m not sure. They’ve said nothing. Let’s talk about . . .
They’ve said nothing on the proposed Viterra takeover. For oil and gas, another
important sector, no real plan on how they’re going to get to their own goal of
600,000 barrels per day.
And
when we want to look at private investment in Saskatchewan going forward —
which is another number members opposite I assume take direction from someone
on — looking forward, a full 1 per cent of that 1.6 per cent, a full 1 per cent
of GDP growth is at Jansen. And what a great project that is, Mr. Deputy
Speaker, a fantastic project, good investment, Mr. Speaker, that would not have
happened without the regime set up by the past NDP government, Mr. Deputy
Speaker.
Let’s
talk about the potash sector, Mr. Deputy Speaker. The only changes — oh,
members opposite don’t like this, so let me just remind you — the only changes
that this government has made was to increase taxes on the potash sector under
the former minister, the member from Stonebridge, who has the sector paying an
additional $117 million in taxes every year. That is the only change that
this government has made when it comes to the potash sector, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
So
let’s get into the rest of their record, the rest of the economy, their record
on things that are in their control, those central planners of economies over
there. The GDP growth for the last six years has been 3.45 per cent under this
Premier, Mr. Deputy Speaker. That is an annual growth rate — second worst in
the country, second worst in the country — of 0.575 per cent, Mr. Speaker.
They’ve managed to balance one single budget in 10 years.
The
member opposite wanted to talk about the Blakeney government as the most
pernicious government in history. You know what Allan Blakeney did every single
year? He balanced the flipping budget, Mr. Deputy Speaker. He put money away.
He created a sovereign wealth fund. That government built this province, a
record that I am proud of, that members opposite are proud of, and a record
that members opposite wish they could emulate.
Because
what have they done? I’ve already talked about it. They tripled the take on the
PST. They’ve only managed to balance one budget in 10 years which is in no
small part due to the unforgivable invasion of Ukraine by Putin, not something
I would be proud of if I was members opposite. And under them the PST in this
province that they also like to talk about . . . When we left government,
you know what the PST rate was? It was 5 per cent. The PST under your
government, under that government opposite, Mr. Deputy Speaker, is the highest
it’s been in 30 years.
[11:15]
Let’s
talk about things under their control. This is a government who just this year
needed an extra $750 million in special warrants to add to the
$1 billion revenue swing that they were already facing. Talk about a
nearly $2 billion whoopsie, Mr. Speaker, a climate for investment under
this government. Let’s talk about investment. Capital investment in this
province is 55 per cent of what it was in 2014, Mr. Speaker, and it’s not just
because of COVID as the members opposite like to claim. News flash: the
pandemic was terrible. It happened globally. It happened across Canada. And by
every measure this government under this Premier is last or second last in
Canada.
And
you know, the member opposite from Moosomin, he wanted to talk about how the
economic system we have today is about lifting people up. It’s about improving
the lot of regular people. Well I agree, Mr. Deputy Speaker. That’s what it’s
all about. But under this government the lot of regular people is not doing so
well. Under this government, for the first time since the Great Depression, the
standard of living for people in Saskatchewan has dropped.
It is not trickling down, Mr. Deputy
Speaker. The only thing trickling down are the incomes of regular people.
And looking at the clock, Mr. Speaker,
I’m confident I’ll be able to land this plane.
I want to maybe finish off by talking
about the net debt under this government, the economy, the economic factors
that they are responsible for. March 31st, 2017, the net debt of the province
was $10.19 billion. March 31st, 2023, the last year we have full
information for, Mr. Deputy Speaker, it was $14.59 billion. So for this
government over there, so proud of their strong, right wing, libertarian bona
fides, that is a 43.2 per cent increase in the debt.
Wow, Mr. Speaker. When we talk about the
things that this government is responsible for, it is a pretty sad record. But
when we look at the things that this province can be proud of, that is the hard
work of job creators, of businesses, of exporters. And I look forward to the Q
& A [question and answer].
The
Deputy Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Melville-Saltcoats.
Mr.
Kaeding: — Thank you, Mr.
Deputy Speaker. Before I begin, I’d like all members to welcome my mom, Phyllis
Kaeding; my wife, Carla, to the Legislative Assembly.
Anyway thanks, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I’m so proud to have them here today. And
you know, at least the one advantage my mom has with hearing aids is she does
get to turn them off when she needs to, and that may have happened in the
previous speech here.
But, Mr. Deputy Speaker, it’s really a
pleasure to enter this debate today, and I would like to second the motion put
forward by the member from Moosomin. You know, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I enjoy the
news, catching up on the financial issues, monitoring items that really affect
the economy of the day for my constituents in Melville-Saltcoats and certainly
of the province. And you know what I’m finding, contrary to what we’ve just
heard here, is some very positive headlines projecting a very reasonable
financial year for our businesses and for our province and for our residents.
And I’d say that’s very much thanks to our Premier, to our Finance minister,
and to this Sask Party government for the economic
policies that they brought forward.
One of the articles I’ve heard is from
Deloitte Canada, that issue, and its April 2024 report that read, “Saskatchewan
is tied with Alberta in second place in the country, behind Newfoundland and
Labrador, for provincial real GDP forecast for 2024.”
Now Deloitte Canada says that
Saskatchewan’s economy is poised for relatively strong performance this year
compared to that of the rest of the country. The economic outlook report
actually says there’s a strong investment in the province driven by sizable investments
in the potash industry and coupled with solid population gains and relatively
low household debt burdens. Now Deloitte forecasts Saskatchewan’s economy to
also grow 3.1 per cent next year and 3.6 per cent in 2026.
Now, although 2023 wasn’t the finest
year for Canada’s economic growth, experts did say that Saskatchewan stood out
compared to the rest of the country and is expected to be a leader again in
2024.
Conference Board of Canada, their March
21 assessment of the provincial budget indicated, and I quote:
Overall, despite
the plan for two consecutive years of deficit, the province’s finances remain
an envy of the rest of the country. The budget is otherwise fiscally
responsible, with a plan to get back to surplus quickly. In all, this budget
sets the province in the right direction to meet the needs of a growing
population with only a modest and a short-term increase to its already enviable
net debt position.
Scotiabank, in their
post-Saskatchewan-budget review, summarizes the government’s capital budget
plan as noted:
The budget unveiled
a record-breaking capital spending plan aimed at bolstering school, health
care, and transportation infrastructure. The upgraded Saskatchewan capital plan
totalled 17.9 billion over the next four years, jointly funded by the
government and commercial Crowns. Investment climbed to a record level of
4.4 billion in 2025, peaks at 5.2 billion in ’26, primarily directed
at hospitals and schools. An increased infrastructure outlay should help support
the province’s growth outlook. Strong economy builds a strong capital program.
Financial Post
headline dated November 1st, 2023, that said, “Alberta, Saskatchewan,
Newfoundland and Labrador are best positioned to weather the storm.” But, and
now for the other side of the story, Financial Post dated April 30th,
“Canada’s economy is losing momentum quickly.”
I found:
A recent report
from the Royal Bank of Canada titled Navigating 2024: Reset and Revival In A
Reshaping World . . . [that] looks at local and global events
that could affect Canada’s economy in 2024 and years to come, states that the
rising cost of living “squeezing purchasing power” will make it harder for the
residents, especially low-income households, to manage their expenses.
The report warns
people to embrace “shrink-sumption,” where rising
costs mean they must allocate more money to their daily essentials while
forgoing purchases of expensive goods.
And what would be the possible cause to
so many of our federal financial issues? Boy, you know, possibly the multiple
federally imposed carbon taxes. Whether it’s the carbon tax, clean fuel
regulations, federal OBPS [output-based pricing system], and many more of these
indirect carbon taxes that this federal Liberal-NDP coalition government,
supported by this NDP opposition, have inflicted on the residents of Canada and
this province.
Oh, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I found another
interesting read, and this is a . . . Fraser Institute reported in
the Financial Post dated September 2004 — get ready for this —
“Saskatchewan, a province suffocated by socialism.” I guess that’s what passive
ownership does, isn’t it. Yeah.
Fun fact, Mr. Deputy Speaker: the
leading positive economic indicators are all based on provinces that have a
robust oil and gas industry that continues to support that federal economy to a
value of 7.5 per cent of national GDP. Oil and gas, an industry that this
federal Liberal-NDP coalition government is on a mission to eliminate, and by
full association, this provincial NDP opposition supporting it.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, my first full-time
job in this province was short-lived, unfortunately, and it was working for
Imperial Oil. Now not many that . . . Early ’80s,
not many of our young colleagues unfortunately going to remember the
devastation that Trudeau senior inflicted on this oil and gas sector. Trudeau
the elder created Petro-Can as a Crown corporation, introduced the national
energy program, which created animosity and distrust of Ottawa. Boy this is
something that sounds familiar, isn’t it?
Trudeau the younger, same mission, as he
introduced the national carbon tax; a cap on greenhouse gas emissions that only
applies to the oil and gas sector; a subjective review process for large
infrastructure projects that really, observers agree, basically prohibits
energy-related projects, including pipelines; and banned bitumen exports from
the West Coast.
So unfortunately for Canadians, the
current Trudeau’s tenure greatly mirrors his father’s time in office. Ottawa
has expanded existing programs, created new ones financed largely by borrowing,
which will saddle Canadians, Canadians like you and me, more government debt,
higher interest payments well into the future.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, this NDP opposition
continues to enable the federal Liberal-NDP coalition government. They can’t
escape their public support of the ill-conceived federal carbon tax. Their
members, from failed leaders such as Cam Broten, Ryan
Meili, have all publicly stated their support for a carbon tax. Their current
leader fanned at a pitch when she called the carbon tax a distraction. They
have both current and some of their newest candidates openly endorsing the
carbon tax. And as the opposition so often likes to quote so many, the best
predictor of future behaviour is past behaviour. It’s very appropriate in
discussing this opposition’s extremely weak attempt at refuting their support
to the carbon tax. How can they do that to Saskatchewan people?
Mr. Deputy Speaker, if we do not have a strong economy, we cannot continue to
make those significant investments that we are making in classrooms, care, and
communities. That strong economy is allowing us to provide record increase in
education funding, record increase in health funding, and a record increase in
municipal revenue sharing that all of our municipalities depend on. So since
we’ve been provided an opportunity to form government, the private sector
capital investment has been in the billions of dollars.
And although
the previous NDP had attempted to be in business by nationalizing the oil and
gas sector, the potash sector, and even attempting to corner the Saskatchewan
potato business, none of these sectors invested in their communities, in their
operations, in their people, until those businesses came back to the private
sector during this government’s tenure.
Mr. Deputy
Speaker, my constituency in Melville-Saltcoats has been one of the biggest
benefactors of private sector investment in this province. From Mosaic’s
multi-billion-dollar investment and expansion of their operations at Mosaic K3 to the CN rail yard expansion in Melville to the new G3 high-throughput grain elevator located north of Melville
to the canola crush plants and the ag value-added processors increasing in
Yorkton, their investment has resulted in jobs and opportunities that have
blessed our constituency and area.
Just last
Friday I had the opportunity to have the minister of Crowns investment corp and the leadership of SaskPower join Mosaic officials
and I underground in the new multi-billion-dollar K3
operation at Esterhazy. While at their site, we learned that 1 in 10 tonnes of
potash mined in the world is generated in this area. And Mosaic and their
Saskatchewan competitors are world leaders in sustainably producing potash for
the world markets.
Mr. Deputy
Speaker, one fact overlooked by economic geniuses such as Eric Cline, Erin
Weir, and this NDP government is that getting Saskatchewan potash to market
involves getting it to the West Coast. Costs $97 a tonne in freight just to get
potash to our West Coast markets. We need to remain competitive. So, Mr. Deputy
Speaker, I will second the motion put forward by the member from Moosomin and
will re-emphasize that we . . .
The Deputy Speaker: — I recognize the member from Saskatoon Meewasin.
Mr.
Teed: — Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
Happy to enter into this debate about the state of our Saskatchewan economy,
the state of job growth in Saskatchewan, the state of Saskatchewan’s small
businesses, and of course the carbon tax, a common refrain we hear in this
Chamber.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, I want to preface my
remarks here to say that I love this province. I ran to represent the people of
Saskatoon Meewasin because I believe in the potential
of Saskatchewan. I wanted to run to ensure that Saskatchewan people, that
Saskatchewan as a province lives up to full potential, and that everyone in our
province can partake in the spinoff of that success — not just a select few
well-connected donors and corporations.
[11:30]
Too long has our province’s potential
been squandered by this tired and out-of-touch government. Sask
New Democrats know so much potential could be unlocked when you stop playing
divisive wedge politics and really find solutions to the issues that we face,
when you make decisions that are people-first, not donor-first.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, we are ready to
supercharge our economy by rehiring Saskatchewan workers, keeping contracts in
Saskatchewan so that we create more jobs with bigger paycheques for families
right here in Saskatchewan, not in our neighbour of Alberta. We are ready to
take up that challenge.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, I’m going to start
my second statement here today. No matter how many photoshop images the Sask Party needs to cobble together, no matter how low we
have to go with a big-brother, state-propaganda spam text to the people of
Saskatchewan, I will say it clear and now — we do not support the federal
carbon tax.
No matter what room we are in, no matter
whichever federal leader we are speaking to, our Saskatchewan NDP leader has
been clear. We do not support the federally imposed or any provincially imposed
carbon taxes.
No matter how much this government
spins, we know that the failure to exempt Saskatchewan residents in a similar
carve-out to Atlantic Canada lies at the feet of this government alone. The
only reason a federally imposed carbon tax exists for the people of
Saskatchewan, on everything for everyone, is because this Saskatchewan Party
government has failed to negotiate a better deal with Ottawa.
And so I will say it again for all those
sitting in the back: Saskatchewan New Democrats do not support a federally
imposed carbon tax.
But this is what you get when you start
contracting jobs out to every out-of-province donor who puts money in your
political pocket. Jobs as well as lucrative, well-connected appointments, I
might add, are going to the highest bidder and highest donor. At SGI
[Saskatchewan Government Insurance] and SaskTel we continue to hear about jobs
that were once mortgage-paying jobs for families right here in Saskatchewan
going to out-of-province contract workers. Whole divisions at SGI, Mr. Deputy
Speaker, thousands of good, mortgage-paying jobs have been lost in our Crowns.
I’ve heard countless stories from constituents about SaskTel vans showing up at
their house with Alberta plates.
SUN [Saskatchewan Union of Nurses] union
of nurses are raising the alarm bells on the startling number of travel nurses
being employed in Saskatchewan. Seventy million this year alone will be spent
on those travel nurses, many of whom will have no contracts, are from out of
province, no benefits, and no sick leave.
We also see Kevin Doherty,
Saskatchewan’s most successful Finance minister at making budget cuts, once
pillaging our budgets of health and education and libraries, now turned most
successful lobbyist, pillaging jobs out of Saskatchewan. This guy couldn’t get
enough while he was here in the Chamber. Now he’s doing more lobbying for this
government.
Mr. Doherty’s lobbying efforts helped
secure a recycling deal for a California company, employing what was what —
what did the Minister of Environment say? — two dozen, maybe 12 to 15 employees
displacing, Mr. Deputy Speaker, 60 employees that were once working in our
province.
When you are selling off the province to
the biggest donors, selling off jobs to every province but your own, it’s no
wonder that under this watch we are seeing the worst job creation record in the
country.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, as a kid I watched
the old Scooby-Doo, you know, and I was . . . Always a classic
moment at the end when — you know, we’ve all seen the memes, Mr. Speaker — when the team unveils the
villain and, in this case, you know, takes off the mask of the Saskatchewan
Party and finds Alberta donors underneath. You know, if it weren’t for those
darn kids uncovering all of our secret plots, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
You know, it’s
a classic situation. If this ship sinks for the Saskatchewan Party, I think
it’ll be time . . . You know, they changed their name last time from
the Progressive Conservatives to the Saskatchewan Party. I think they’re going
to have to change their name to the Alberta Party after
to save some clout.
But you know, you’re not even just
working for our out-of-province donors. Let’s talk about small businesses for a
second. Mr. Speaker, if the jobs numbers that we’re talking about aren’t
enough, let’s look at small-business numbers. You know, how do you gauge the
health of your economy? You know what, Mr. Speaker, you look at small businesses.
Mr. Speaker, Saskatchewan families are
struggling to put food on the table, they’re struggling to pay utility rates,
and they don’t have extra money at the end of the month to support their local
economy, to support their local small businesses. The expert numbers that the
members opposite are highlighting are wonderful accomplishments; if only the
spinoff was making its way to Saskatchewan families and Saskatchewan small
businesses.
So let’s look at the health of those
small businesses. Since taking office, the Premier has overseen a growth of
small business by 0.43 per cent. That is less than 1 per cent, Mr. Deputy
Speaker, of small-business growth in Saskatchewan — less than 1 per cent. Mr.
Speaker, this year alone we lost 91 small businesses; the first months of 2023,
257 small businesses. Since the Premier took office, rural Saskatchewan has
lost 860 small businesses.
Now we’ve raised this question in
question period and they’re loath to talk about their own record. But this is
91, 257, 860 small businesses. These are mom-and-pop shops, locally owned
establishments that made our community so, so good. No matter whether you live
in Saskatoon or Regina or Lloydminster or Avonlea or Wadena, all these small
businesses make our communities a better place. These are staggering,
staggering numbers.
Mr. Speaker, it seems the only small
businesses making it here in Saskatchewan are those with deep connections to
this Saskatchewan Party, like the Sunrise Motel and the Travelodge, Mr. Deputy
Speaker — thriving businesses. It seems the only way that you can be successful
in this province or out of province is if you’re a big out-of-province or
in-province donor or an MLA sitting in these benches, Mr. Speaker. Then you can
just start counting your cash, Mr. Deputy Speaker, all the way to the bank
until those pesky opposition members uncover it and foil your plans. Then,
then, then we’re going to stop pouring money into the pockets of our MLAs here.
Mr. Speaker, I’ll come back to small
businesses here in my last minute. Those numbers, these growth numbers are
abysmal. Mr. Deputy Speaker, this Premier has overseen the worst job creation
record in the country. We’ve seen second-worst GDP growth under the last six
years that this Premier has been in office. These are not indicators of a
provincial economy that is booming, Mr. Deputy Speaker. And we can look at
these numbers but they are not reaching the people of Saskatchewan.
So, Mr. Deputy Speaker, in closing I
reject the premise of this debate motion because this Sask
Party has the worst jobs creation, worst jobs creation, worst economic record
in the country. They’re terrible job creators. They’re bad for the economy.
They’re too busy picking fights and taking flights than facing the real
challenges faced by Saskatchewan people.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, it is time for
change. It is time for a government that works for the people of this province,
not wealthy out-of-province or well-connected donors. Thank you very much, Mr.
Speaker.
The
Deputy Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Cannington.
Mr.
D. Harrison: — Thank you, thank you, Mr. Deputy
Speaker. It is my pleasure to stand before you today and support the motion
from my colleague the member from Moosomin and seconded by my colleague, the
member from Melville-Saltcoats.
Mr. Deputy Speaker . . .
Actually before I get into that, Mr. Deputy Speaker, my colleague from Moosomin
commented about nationalizing potash and stuff, and I’d like to tell a little
story. And I don’t know, it’s burned into my memory here. It would have been
shortly after that the potash industry was nationalized by the NDP government
of the day. A sign on the wall of an office in a grain elevator, Mr. Deputy
Speaker, it said, “If it moves, tax it. If it slows down, subsidize it. If it stops
moving, nationalize it.” That could be right out of their policy manual for the
NDP today.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, it’s sad but true.
It’s reality. They would do it. They call it passive ownership nowadays, but
they’re not to be trusted. The member across there talked about the Scooby-Doo
mask. If you individually asked . . .
The
Deputy Speaker: — I caution the member on the use of
“not to be trusted.”
Mr.
D. Harrison: — Mr. Deputy Speaker, Saskatchewan is
an exporting province and we rely on our exports to fuel our economy. We are a
vast province producing much, much more than we consume. This is a testament to
the strength of Saskatchewan people, the resources we are blessed with, and the
investments made by the companies working in Saskatchewan. We have what the
world needs. We have the food, fuel, and the fertilizer, and it’s produced more
sustainably here than anywhere else in the world.
To further build our economy and reach
new markets, we’ve introduced a collection of resources to serve as a road map
for economic expansion in the province. Saskatchewan’s plan for growth, the
province’s critical mineral strategy, our labour market strategy, Securing
the Next Decade of Growth: Saskatchewan’s Investment Attraction Strategy,
and recently launched Invest Saskatchewan website.
Investment drives the economy, creating
additional jobs and increasing exports. We exported nearly $50 billion
worth of goods to 163 countries, the highest year ever in Saskatchewan for
total export value.
A large chunk of this nearly
$50 billion is ag products and value-added ag products. Saskatchewan
exported over $20 billion worth of agri-food products. We have already
surpassed our 2030 growth plan goal seven years early, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
Wheat exports were up 23.2 per cent; $4.7 billion in 2022 is now
$5.7 billion in 2023, largely due to sales to Algeria increasing 71.7 per
cent and Indonesia increasing 44.3 per cent. Canola oil exports increased 1.3
per cent with the biggest export increase to our largest and closest trading
partner, the United States. Canola seed exports were also up, an increase of
17.6 per cent over 2022 for a total of $3.2 billion in 2023.
The volume of Saskatchewan’s top exports
from 2022 to 2023 were potash, a record 22.7 metric tons; crude oil exports
increased to 19.7 million cubic metres, Mr. Deputy Speaker; wheat exports
increased to 11.9 million metric tons.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, I think that’s a
true testament to the success of our trade offices around the world. Nine trade
offices around the world, including Germany, China, India, Japan, Mexico,
Singapore, UAE [United Arab Emirates], United Kingdom, and Vietnam. Mr. Deputy
Speaker, we do tremendous work out of these trade offices, and I want to thank
them all for their continued hard work and effort in gaining market access for
us and attracting investment to this province.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, Saskatchewan without
a doubt is a world leader when it comes to producing food, fuel, and
fertilizer. I’d be remiss if I didn’t give the tip of the hat to our farmers.
Our annual mega project has just started. Seeding has started in many areas of
the province, and with recent rains in many of these same areas, optimism is
high in our farming communities. Thank you to the farmers for their huge
investment of crop inputs, and prayers for a favourable growing season. Thanks
again for all you do.
[11:45]
Mr. Deputy Speaker, I’m going to
summarize a little bit, summarize . . . It’s a recipe for a growing
economy. Create a competitive business environment, this will attract
investment to the province. Investment creates opportunity for new and expanded
business. New and expanded business creates jobs, lots of jobs, good-paying
jobs. Increased jobs attract additional population. Additional population
promotes additional growth and other business opportunities. All of this makes
for a strong and growing economy.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, when the Finance
minister and Deputy Premier presented the 2024‑2025 budget, it had
significant spending increases in three main areas. Pre-K [pre-kindergarten] to
grade 12 classroom funding increased 9 per cent, directly supporting our
teachers and students across the province. Health care funding increased 10 per
cent, continuing to provide quality health care services for the residents of
Saskatchewan when they need it.
Municipal revenue sharing. Municipal
revenue sharing increased 14 per cent. But it’s a one-of-a-kind,
made-in-Saskatchewan, revenue-sharing formula that municipalities count on to
support their infrastructure in local communities, from urban, large urban,
small urban, to rural municipalities alike. This municipal revenue-sharing
increase of 14 per cent helps communities sustain and build local
infrastructure, providing services greatly needed by our residents of the province.
Classrooms, care, and community.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, I want to jump into
carbon taxes. The NDP say they’re against carbon taxes, but yet they continue
to support their federal leader, Jagmeet Singh. Jagmeet Singh continues to
support the Trudeau Liberal minority government. He just decided to support the
budget. After much contemplation, no one was surprised that he’s going to
support it. I think it’s something about his pension maybe, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
I don’t know. He didn’t really say. But it’s very, very, very, very, very
self-serving, I think, on his part because he is exactly the same as the
Liberal Justin Trudeau government.
And the members opposite continue to support
their leader. Their federal leader continues to support Justin Trudeau. And we
know they support their federal leader and Justin Trudeau because they made a
trip down to Ottawa that was purely to campaign against a Conservative
government. And that Conservative government is going to axe the tax, Mr.
Deputy Speaker, and they don’t want that. They don’t want that. Axe the tax.
Get out of the pockets of consumers. Make life more affordable.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, we know the carbon
tax was designed to increase the cost of everything consumers need. The
Liberal-Jagmeet coalition proved that when they had the carve-out for heating
oil for primarily Atlantic Canada. That is proof positive because they said it
was to make life more affordable for people with home heating oil. And that’s
why we did what we did. But that’s proof that it costs the residents of
Saskatchewan more. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The
Deputy Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Douglas Park.
Ms.
Sarauer: — Well thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
It’s my honour and privilege to rise in the House today and enter into this
debate. And I’m so happy to be joining in on this debate after the member from
Cannington, after the speech he gave. Clearly seems like he’s fighting a bit of
an ideological war with a figment of his imagination, perhaps himself. It’s
very difficult to tell frankly, Mr. Speaker. I will tell you he’s got a very
sharp haircut, though. It’s good to see that.
Including cuts, Mr. Speaker, he did
mention the quote, “If it moves, tax it,” using that as an analogy against
something that perhaps that we would be supportive of, when in reality that is
the MO [modus operandi] of the Sask Party government,
Mr. Speaker, the government that expanded the PST and increased the biggest PST
tax grab in Saskatchewan’s history. Just thought I should correct the record
for the member opposite. While he is fighting that ideological war with
himself, he can work through those issues.
The member from Moosomin spoke about the
importance of the trade offices and the importance of doing international
relations between Saskatchewan and our trading partners, Mr. Speaker. And of
course that is a very important part of our economy. That’s something we very
much support, Mr. Speaker.
Our job in the official opposition —
something that I would expect a conservative government to be keen on,
supportive of — is making sure that the Saskatchewan people are getting good
value for their dollars, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Because at least we know on this
side of the House that that . . .
The
Deputy Speaker: — Please call them the Saskatchewan
Party, not the Conservative government.
Ms.
Sarauer: — Sorry, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I forgot
that they are not Conservatives; they are the Sask
Party. That is very true. They’re very sensitive about that. I’ll respect that,
Mr. Deputy Speaker.
Now I would say, Mr. Deputy Speaker,
that trade is very important to Saskatchewan’s economy. We are very aware of
that. We need to make sure that Saskatchewan people are getting good value for
their dollars because it is not the Sask Party’s
money, Mr. Deputy Speaker. It is the people of Saskatchewan’s money. And I
thought that a government like this one would be keen on making sure that there
was good value for tax dollars being taken, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
But that doesn’t seem to be the case
with this government. They don’t seem to be too concerned about that anymore,
Mr. Deputy Speaker. In fact the reality of this province, Mr. Deputy Speaker,
is that 95 per cent of the debt accumulated throughout the course of this
province’s great, illustrious history was accumulated under conservative — PC
[Progressive Conservative], Sask Party — governments
like this one, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
Now again, and I’ll . . .
The
Deputy Speaker: — Just you said it again. Don’t
. . . not the Conservative government. It’s the Sask
Party government.
Ms.
Sarauer: — Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I’ll
be more clear about the name of this government in the future.
Now I will say it again. I always
appreciate the opportunity to say it again for those in the back, for those who
aren’t paying attention, Mr. Deputy Speaker. We’ve been very clear. We do not
support the carbon tax, Mr. Deputy Speaker. It is not on for this province. It
is not good for this province.
The difference between us and the Leader
of the Opposition and that government and that Premier, Mr. Deputy Speaker, is
that she will not just take that fight to Twitter. She will take that to Ottawa
to have those conversations with political leaders, Mr. Deputy Speaker, because
she knows what actually gets things done for Saskatchewan is not picking fights
on Twitter, but having these hard conversations face to face, Mr. Deputy
Speaker.
This government loves to take trips, Mr.
Deputy Speaker. The Leader of the Opposition takes one trip to Ottawa and you
hear it called a million different things, Mr. Deputy Speaker. The reality is,
she was meeting with local and national worker representatives, including the CFL [Canadian Football League] Players’ Association, Mr.
Deputy Speaker.
And what was she talking to them about?
Concerns across the country, concerns on cost of living, Mr. Deputy Speaker,
and concerns about this government and what this government is doing to the
province of Saskatchewan. She was willing — unlike members opposite, unlike
this Premier — to meet with leaders of any political stripes. And one thing she
does that members opposite don’t do is she is willing to say the same thing in
every room, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
And what did she say when she was in
Ottawa, Mr. Deputy Speaker? That the carbon tax is not on for Saskatchewan. It
is not working for Saskatchewan people. You know what the other things were
that she pushed for, Mr. Deputy Speaker? Broadband, something this government
can’t seem to get across the boards. Do you know what she also talked about,
Mr. Deputy Speaker? The importance of Evraz steel,
Mr. Deputy Speaker.
So maybe this government can take a
lesson from the Leader of the Opposition and learn a thing or two, that perhaps
instead of having nothing but Twitter fights, that the hard conversations
should happen face to face, Mr. Deputy Speaker. They don’t like that, Mr.
Deputy Speaker. They don’t like that at all.
And here’s the other difference between
us and the government opposite, is no matter who is in power federally, we will
always stand up for Saskatchewan, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Not like the members
opposite — who by the way have Stephen Harper on their payroll — that when the
federal election happens, and it’s looking like when the federal Conservatives
form government, we won’t fold like a cheap tent, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Because
the second Pierre Poilievre tells them, well, oh you know, that’s actually not
going to work for us nationally — like Stephen Harper did to this government —
it will take a hot second before this government rolls over, Mr. Deputy
Speaker.
Not the opposition. It doesn’t matter
who is in power. We will continue to work with and stand up for Saskatchewan’s
interests no matter where it is and no matter in what room, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
That’s the difference between the Saskatchewan NDP and the Sask
Party government, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
Now they don’t like hearing any of that,
Mr. Deputy Speaker. They are quite upset right now, Mr. Deputy Speaker, and I’m
quite okay with that. I am very happy to have this opportunity to clear the
air, to once again reassert our position on the carbon tax, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
We welcome any opportunity to do that. And again, like I said before, we will say
the same thing in every room, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
And we are not afraid to stand up for
the people of this province, Mr. Deputy Speaker, whether it’s about whether or
not this Sask Party government is using tax dollars
efficiently when it comes to the trade offices — an important question that we
will continue to ask because trade is important to our economy — but also using
tax dollars wisely is also important to the people of Saskatchewan, Mr. Deputy
Speaker.
And we will also stand up for
Saskatchewan’s interests in Ottawa, Mr. Deputy Speaker, again the difference
between the Sask Party and the Saskatchewan NDP.
Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The
Deputy Speaker: — The 65‑minute period has
expired. The 10‑minute period for question and answer period will begin.
I recognize the member from Regina University.
Ms.
A. Young: — Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. My
question is for the member from Moosomin. To the member from Moosomin: since
this Premier took office, 40,600 jobs have been lost in rural Saskatchewan. Is
that a record you’re proud of, and how do you explain that?
The
Deputy Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Moosomin.
Mr.
Bonk: — Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I’m
not sure how the member opposite could be morally or ethically serious and postulate
a question like that when we’ve created more jobs this month than they did in
their last 16 years in office.
The
Deputy Speaker: — I recognize the member from P.A.
Northcote.
Ms.
A. Ross: — Mr. Speaker, the opposition leader
has claimed that the best way to build trust is to say the same thing in every
room. I wonder what she was saying at the Trudeau campaign school she attended
as part of her trip to Ontario. She continues to support federal policies that
hurt Saskatchewan business and won’t support our government in defending
Saskatchewan industries from federal overreach.
Now Saskatchewan people need to know the
answer to this question. To the member of Meewasin:
who paid for your leader to attend Trudeau campaign school in Ottawa, Ontario?
The
Deputy Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon Meewasin.
[12:00]
Mr.
Teed: — Mr. Deputy Speaker, our leader went
to Ottawa with one message: that this opposition, unlike that carbon
tax-inducing government, does not support the federal carbon tax. She said it
in every room to every leader that would meet with her.
The
Deputy Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Douglas Park.
Ms.
Sarauer: — Thank you. My question is to the
member for Cannington with his sharp haircut. Do you believe that it is growth
that works for everyone when nearly 60 per cent of people can’t afford to put
food on their tables?
The
Deputy Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Cannington.
Mr.
D. Harrison: — Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Thank
you for the compliment from the member opposite, not once but twice today and
once yesterday, I believe, so thank you. I believe it was said that I look 10
years younger than I would be back in high school.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, we in Saskatchewan
live in the most affordable province in the country, and it’s a lot to do with
the policies of this government but also the hard work and determination of the
Saskatchewan people. And I want to just ask a question about carbon tax. And
it’s a quote from the member from Walsh Acres: “My take on the carbon tax and
climate change from here in Saskatchewan is, spoiler alert, I’m in favour.”
That’s Jared Clarke . . . sorry, the member from Walsh Acres from
October 7th, 2016 on Twitter.
The
Deputy Speaker: — I recognize the member from Arm
River.
Mr.
Skoropad: — Thank you. Members opposite
constantly talk down our province’s efforts to tell our story abroad. For
example, they called our attendance at COP28
[Conference of the Parties 28] a waste of time and resources. The many
businesses and organizations that joined us at this international event, they
would say otherwise.
NexGen got everything from COP28
it wanted, engaging with policy-makers to discuss and assess the nuclear
baseload power to support the Saskatchewan government as it tells the world
about its sustainable uranium practices and also connect with capital providers
looking to Saskatchewan as a pre-eminent choice to invest in uranium mining.
Seeing
as the opposition claims to say the same thing in all rooms, to the member from
Saskatoon Meewasin: if the NexGen leadership was here
today, would you tell them money spent to promote their industry at COP was a
waste of money? Or would you again say something vastly different?
The Deputy Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon Meewasin.
Mr. Teed: — Mr. Deputy Speaker, I have to say I
love all the attention I’m getting from these guys here today. Mr. Speaker, we
say the same thing in every single room. Saskatchewan has a story to tell. But
you know what? Let’s look at our neighbours to the west, who spent $160,000 to
tell their story in COP. Guess how much we spent — $1 million. Danielle
Smith was able to tell her story at COP for a lot cheaper than this
Saskatchewan government was.
The Deputy Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
University.
Ms. A. Young: — Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. My
question is to the member from . . . Let’s go with the sharp-haircut
man, Mr. Speaker. To the member from Cannington: how do you explain having only
balanced one budget in 10 years, and that one budget only being balanced after
the egregious and unforgivable invasion of Ukraine by Russia?
The Deputy Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Cannington.
Mr. D. Harrison: — Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, and
another fine, fine compliment. Thank you to the member opposite for that. I
don’t know. I guess I need to get more haircuts more often.
Mr.
Deputy Speaker, our government has invested more into this province than any
governments in the past. We’ve built capital projects, hospitals, long-term
care homes, schools. We’ve invested in this province for services — services
that our residents require, Mr. Deputy Speaker. These services are very
warranted by the members of the province, and we are proud to do that, Mr.
Deputy Speaker. And we want to continue to do that, and we will continue to do
that.
The Deputy Speaker: — I recognize the member from Melfort.
Mr. Goudy: — Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. When
our government went to COP28, we went to support
Saskatchewan’s businesses, industries, and the jobs they create. And yet we’ve
heard the opposition criticize our efforts to develop trade relations with
other nations and open up our markets to Saskatchewan producers so they can get
the best value for their products.
To
the member again from Saskatoon Meewasin: do you
support the Government of Saskatchewan’s initiatives to further Saskatchewan
producers’ access to international markets?
The Deputy Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon Meewasin.
Mr. Teed: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I love this.
You know what? Our Premier spent $1 million to go to Dubai — of taxpayer
dollars — to go to Dubai. But you know what he couldn’t do? He couldn’t go to
Ottawa and get an Atlantic-style carve-out for Saskatchewan. Why? Because he
has let the relationship fall into such, such bad shape.
So
my question would be, why? Why hasn’t this Premier gone to Ottawa and gotten a
better deal for the people of Saskatchewan?
The Deputy Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Douglas Park.
Ms. Sarauer: — Thank you. I’m wondering if the
member from Moosomin can tell this Assembly how many phone calls his office has
received from Saskatchewan people struggling to pay their bills.
The Deputy Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Moosomin.
Mr. Bonk: — I’ve never kept track, but I will
endeavour to provide you with that information. But it’s not very many because
mostly in our office we talk about things in my part of the province, where I
have the privilege to represent, is the economy and trade because trade is so
important to where I live. We have potash. We have agriculture. We have
agriculture manufacturing. Oil and gas. It’s just a microcosm of the
Saskatchewan economy as a whole, and I’m so proud to talk about that all day,
Mr. Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Lloydminster.
Ms. C. Young: — Mr. Deputy Speaker, the member from
Regina University despises hearing good things about our economy. They’ve even
insinuated that the CFIB [Canadian Federation of Independent Business] are
liars. They’ve claimed our trade missions do nothing and our trade offices are
just filled with empty suits.
Mr.
Deputy Speaker, we’re proud of the great work being done by our trade missions
and the offices we’ve opened in several different countries. We’re seeing
record increases of 237 per cent in trade in Germany, 68 per cent increase with
French trade, and so much more good news that the opposition doesn’t want to
hear.
To
the member from Regina Douglas Park: do you support the member from Regina
University’s constant attacks on our trade missions, and why do you oppose
getting Saskatchewan products to market?
The Deputy Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Douglas Park.
Ms. Sarauer: — You know what, Mr. Deputy Speaker?
I’m very honoured to have the member from Regina University as a colleague and
as a friend, Mr. Deputy Speaker. You know what she cares about? Good value for
taxpayers’ dollars, something that this government does not seem to care about
one bit.
The Deputy Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon Meewasin.
Mr. Teed: — Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
You know, we hear a lot of finger pointing by this government for all of their
problems at the feds. So my question to the member from Cannington
. . .
The Deputy Speaker: — The 75‑minute debate period
has expired.
[The
Assembly resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion by Mr. Wotherspoon.]
The Deputy Speaker: — It is my duty pursuant to rule 54(3)
to warn the Assembly that the member is about to exercise his right to the
debate, and afterwards all members will be precluded from speaking to this
question. Therefore if any member wishes to speak, let them do so now. I
recognize the member from Regina Rosemont.
Mr. Wotherspoon: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’ll be
fairly brief here today because what matters to Saskatchewan people is voting
on this motion and suspending the fuel tax for Saskatchewan people and offering
some relief at a time where Saskatchewan families and businesses are facing so
many pressures, Mr. Speaker.
We’ve
seen this government really fail to respond to the cost-of-living challenges
that families have been facing, a once-in-a-generation cost-of-living challenge
that they’ve been enduring, and a government that inexcusably has only made it
more expensive, has only made it worse.
We
see other provincial governments all across Canada that have acted during this
period of time to provide relief, many extending relief and cutting or
suspending their fuel tax, Mr. Speaker. But here in Saskatchewan with this
tired and out-of-touch Sask Party government, all
we’ve seen is more costs, more taxes, more bill hikes, Mr. Speaker, for
families and people who are working so damned hard just to make ends meet, Mr.
Speaker.
You
know, 57 per cent of Saskatchewan people are finding it difficult or very difficult
just to put food on the table, Mr. Speaker. That should shake every last one of
us. That’s the majority of Saskatchewan people, from corner to corner to corner
to corner in Saskatchewan, who are struggling with the cost of living,
struggling to put food on the table for their children, Mr. Speaker, seniors
that are making awful decisions, Mr. Speaker, that impact their health and
well-being, and a government that — worse than doing nothing, Mr. Speaker — has
made things worse. We see the biggest tax hike in Saskatchewan’s history that
adds up every year. We see a government that’s continued to add more taxes on
that front, more bill hikes on front after front, Mr. Speaker.
Now
suspending the fuel tax of 15 cents a litre on gas and diesel would offer some
meaningful relief to families in the coming months. We’ve seen this action both
to the west and to the east, both in Alberta and Manitoba, Mr. Speaker. It’s a
measure that will provide some relief and allow families to be able to have
some of their needs being met in a better way, Mr. Speaker.
And
in Saskatchewan, or anywhere across Canada, but in Saskatchewan and our rural
province, driving is a necessity. Whether you’re getting to work or getting
into town or whether you’re getting kids to activities or getting to training
or getting to see a loved one or getting to health care, Mr. Speaker, driving
is a necessity. And the 15‑cent-a-litre provincial fuel tax is wrong at
this time, Mr. Speaker.
Now
we brought this forward a number of months ago. This government could have
acted any one of those days. They failed to do so. They failed to include it in
the budget. They failed to support the motion on this front that we brought a
couple years ago. So we’ve been consistent calling for this relief for a long
time. This relief would provide savings to the average family of about $400,
Mr. Speaker. Those are real dollars at a time that families are facing real
hardship.
You
know, this Assembly expresses itself in a united way with our opposition to the
federal carbon tax. We hear that day in, day out from the opposition. We hear
those concerns being identified by the government, so we stand united on that
front.
But
where the province can act today and offer relief for families and farmers and
businesses going into the spring here, Mr. Speaker, is to suspend the fuel tax
here today. So far this government’s been stubborn and has dismissed the need
for this important call. I look to maybe the backbenchers, Mr. Speaker, that
weren’t a part of making the budget that was presented, to stand up for their
constituents today.
You
know, we had our good friend from Moosomin up here today. And I know the folks
in Moosomin and Wolseley and Wawota and up to Rocanville and in between, Mr. Speaker, they would appreciate
seeing the suspension of the 15‑cent provincial tax on gas and on diesel.
Mr. Speaker, I know the same to be true in every corner of this province, from
the far North to the southern corners, and certainly in our towns and villages
and cities across this province.
So
I call on members opposite to do the right thing here today, to recognize the
challenge and hardship that families are facing across Saskatchewan on this
front, to help correct the record of this government that’s only stacked on
more costs to families at a time that they are already facing so many.
So
I call on all hon. members in this Assembly to do the right thing and to vote
today to support the suspension of the provincial fuel tax on both gas and
diesel — 15 cents a litre — and to provide a little bit of relief for families
that deserve nothing less. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Deputy Speaker: — Pursuant to rule 27 it is my duty to
advise the Assembly that this item of business has been previously adjourned
three times and that every question necessary to dispose of the motion will now
be put.
[12:15]
It
has been moved by the member from Regina Rosemont:
That this Assembly calls upon the government to suspend the
collection of the provincial fuel tax from gasoline and diesel for a period of
six months in order to help families struggling with the high cost of living.
Is
it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Some Hon. Members: — No.
The
Deputy Speaker:
— Those in favour of the motion please say aye.
Some
Hon. Members:
— Aye.
The
Deputy Speaker:
— Those opposed to the motion please say no.
Some
Hon. Members:
— No.
The Deputy Speaker: — I think the nos
have it. Call in the members.
[The division
bells rang from 12:15 until 12:31.]
The Deputy Speaker: — The question before the Assembly is a motion by the
member from Regina Rosemont. All those in favour of the motion please stand.
[Yeas
— 9]
Beck
Nippi-Albright
Mowat
Wotherspoon
Teed
A. Young
Burki
Clarke
Sarauer
The Deputy Speaker: — All those opposed to the motion
please stand.
[Nays
— 31]
Morgan
McMorris
Harpauer
Merriman
Tell
Makowsky
Skoropad
Kaeding
L. Ross
J. Harrison
Hargrave
T. McLeod
Buckingham
Fiaz
A. Ross
Dennis
Kirsch
Lambert
Ottenbreit
Francis
C. Young
Steele
D. Harrison
Bonk
Nerlien
B. McLeod
Grewal
Goudy
Keisig
Lemaigre
Jenson
Procedural Clerk (Ms. Gudereit): — Mr. Deputy Speaker, those in favour of the motion, 9;
those opposed to the motion, 31.
The Deputy Speaker: — I declare the motion not carried. I
recognize the Government House Leader.
Hon. Mr. J. Harrison: — Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I move
that this House do now adjourn.
The Deputy Speaker: — The Government House Leader has
moved that this House do now adjourn. Is that agreed?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
The Deputy Speaker: — Carried. This House stands adjourned
until Monday at 1:30.
[The
Assembly adjourned at 12:35.]
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