CONTENTS
Smile Cookie Campaign
Supports Local Organizations
Comedian from Little
Pine First Nation Realizes Success in Acting and Stand-Up
Expanding Coverage of
Cystic Fibrosis Medication
Melville Teen Raises
Funds for Cystic Fibrosis Canada
Positive Economic
Outlook in Saskatchewan
Access to Surgical
Abortion and Supports for Women’s Health
Hospital Parking Fees
and Supports for Cancer Patients
Overdose Deaths and
Treatment for Addictions
PRESENTING REPORTS BY
STANDING AND SPECIAL COMMITTEES
Standing Committee on
House Services
FOURTH
SESSION — TWENTY-NINTH LEGISLATURE
of
the
Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan
DEBATES
AND PROCEEDINGS
(HANSARD)
N.S.
Vol. 65 No. 56A Wednesday, May 1, 2024,
13:30
[Prayers]
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Melville-Saltcoats.
Mr. Kaeding: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and
through you, I’d like to welcome a remarkable family from Melville to their
Legislative Assembly.
Mr.
Speaker, seated in your gallery are grandpa Peter Bauldic, a lifetime employee
of Melville Motors; in spirit here today, grandma Pat Bauldic; dad Kurt
Kohlenberg, a CN employee; mom Melissa Kohlenberg, a Melville Cornerstone
Credit Union employee; their sons Destin and Chaise, grade 12 students at
Melville Comprehensive School; and daughter Lena, who I will focus on in a
member’s statement in a few minutes. There was a decision made by this
government that has had a major, positive effect on Lena’s life.
I’d
like all members to welcome Peter, Kurt, Melissa, Destin, Chaise, and Lena to
their Legislative Assembly.
The Speaker: — I recognize the Minister of
Environment.
Hon. Ms. Tell: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and
through you and to all members of this Assembly, I’d like to introduce in the
west gallery is seated 41 grade 8 students from Emerald Ridge Elementary School
in White City.
I
look forward to meeting with all of you after question period and having a
photograph taken. And I ask all members to please welcome these students to
their Assembly.
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from Yorkton.
Mr. Ottenbreit: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s my
honour today to introduce some friends from Yorkton in the west gallery. I’ll
ask them to wave as I introduce them.
First
is Pastor Peter Laniya; his wife, Tola; his daughter Testimony; and son Favour.
Peter
has been an integral part of our community in Yorkton for the past four years.
He’s the pastor at Dominion Chapel. He’s also served as the lead of the Yorkton
Ministerial Association.
Peter
again has been in Yorkton for four years. He came here through South Africa four
years ago. His family, it took another couple, few years for them to get to
Yorkton as well, and we’re just so happy that they’ve made it to Yorkton.
They’ve made Yorkton their home. They’re such great contributors to our
community, and just huge members of our community. And we’re just so happy
they’re there.
So
I ask all members to welcome them to their Legislative Assembly.
The Speaker: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Ms. Beck: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise to
introduce a couple of guests seated in the east gallery. The first person I
want to introduce is someone who joined our team about a year ago, Mr. Speaker,
and has been just a wonderful addition — Emily Reaume who is a Luther grad, and
you know, someone who has brought spark and energy to our caucus and
occasionally is tasked in trying to keep me on track, Mr. Speaker, which is no
small, small feat. It’s my pleasure to see her here watching question period
today.
And
the other person is someone I’ve introduced before, but I’ve never had the
opportunity to introduce her — and this will be the last opportunity — on her
birthday, her 18th birthday no less, Mr. Speaker. That’s our youngest daughter,
Maya, up there.
You
know, like all parents, real proud of this kid, our baby. An adult today.
Someone who’s wicked smart, who’s kind, and also has a super sharp wit. And,
Mr. Speaker, this fall she’s going to leave us to pursue a career in nursing,
and we’re real proud of her.
I
invite all members to join me in welcoming these guests and wishing Maya Grace
a happy birthday.
The Speaker: — I recognize the . . .
Energy and Resources.
Hon. Mr. Reiter: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today
to present the following petition. We, the undersigned residents of the province
of Saskatchewan, wish to bring to your attention the following: whereas the
Trudeau Liberal-NDP [New Democratic Party] coalition carbon tax is one of the
main causes of affordability issues and inflation in the nation of Canada; that
the federal Liberal-NDP government was politically motivated in issuing a
carve-out for home heating oil; and that the Government of Saskatchewan’s
decision to not collect or remit the carbon tax on home heating in Saskatchewan
has led to a drop in inflation; further, that despite the decision to not
charge the carbon tax on home heating, Saskatchewan families continue to pay
that tax out of pocket at the pumps, grocery stores, and more.
We, in the prayer that reads as follows, respectfully
request that the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan take the following
action: to call upon the Government of Canada to immediately suspend the carbon
tax across the nation of Canada and acknowledge its significant impact on
affordability and inflation of Canada.
The
below undersigned are residents of Regina. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon Meewasin.
Mr. Teed: — Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
Today I’m on my feet presenting our petition calling for improvements of labour
laws. The undersigned residents of the province of Saskatchewan wish to bring
to our attention that even after the October 1st, 2023 increase, Saskatchewan’s
minimum wage continues to be the lowest in Canada at $14 an hour; that the
official opposition was calling for a $15‑hour minimum wage as early as
2018; and that the official opposition has twice introduced paid sick leave
legislation since the onset of the pandemic, calling for a minimum of 10 paid
sick days each year and 14 during a public health crisis; paid sick leave has
been proven to save employers money while maintaining workplaces healthier and
safer for all workers; that 71 per cent of workers in Canada have experienced
workplace violence and/or harassment; and that more needs to be done to ensure
that workplaces in Saskatchewan are harassment free.
I’ll
read the prayer:
We, in the prayer that reads as follows, respectfully
request that the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan call on the Government of
Saskatchewan to improve conditions for Saskatchewan workers by passing
legislation to increase minimum wage, guarantee paid sick leave, limit
nondisclosure agreements which could silence survivors of workplace harassment,
and require employers to track and report incidents of violence and harassment
in their workplaces.
The
undersigned residents reside in Warman and Saskatoon. I do so present.
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Walsh Acres.
Mr.
Clarke:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to present a petition calling on the Legislative
Assembly to fix the crisis in health care. The undersigned residents would like
to bring to our attention the following: that there have been 953 health care
closures across rural Saskatchewan between August 2019 and July 2023.
These
are emergency rooms, labs, and a number of other services, Mr. Speaker. A lot
of these have been closed for a long time. And earlier this week I was on a bit
of a rural health care tour to Broadview, Wolseley, and we heard from a lot of
health care workers who need support, Mr. Speaker. We continue to see health
care workers leaving rural Saskatchewan, and that needs to change.
You
know, it’s also unacceptable that Saskatchewan has the longest wait times for
knee and hip replacement surgeries in Canada and that women have to travel to
Calgary to get routine breast cancer care.
I’ll
read the prayer, Mr. Speaker:
We, in the prayer that reads as follows, respectfully
request that the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan call on the Government of
Saskatchewan to immediately address the short-staffing crisis in health care
and work with health care workers on solutions to improve patient care.
Mr.
Speaker, the signatories today reside in Regina. I do so present.
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Elphinstone-Centre.
Ms. Conway: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’m on my
feet to present a petition calling on this government to open up vacant Sask
Housing units for occupancy. The Provincial Auditor and the Saskatchewan Urban
Municipalities Association have observed that approximately 3,000 Sask Housing
units are currently vacant across Saskatchewan.
Some
of these units require renovation but the Sask Party government has cut the
maintenance and renovation budget approximately 40 per cent over the last
decade. This has not only resulted in vacant units but many of the inhabited
units having black mould, pests, and other issues, Mr. Speaker.
Thousands
of people in Saskatchewan are unhoused right now, and that number is only
increasing year over year. The vast majority of unhoused people in Saskatchewan
are Indigenous, a legacy of colonialism. Homelessness has a tremendous cost, a
social and a financial cost. According to one estimate, every $10 invested
towards housing and supports for chronically homeless individuals results in
savings of over $21 related to health care, social services, housing, and
involvement in the justice system. The province’s expenditures on emergency
hotels are one example — but one — of the cost of this homelessness crisis
which has been fed by this Sask Party government’s failed policies.
We, in the prayer, call upon the government to renovate
Sask Housing units that require renovation, make them available and affordable,
ensure that they are open for vacancy by October 2024.
Signatories are in Regina. I do so
present.
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Lloydminster.
Ms. C. Young: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. May 1st is
Maternal Mental Health Day in Saskatchewan. As many as one in five new mothers
in Saskatchewan experience some type of maternal mental health issue. This
includes depression or anxiety during pregnancy or within the first 12 months
following childbirth.
Our
government recognizes the importance of supporting mothers across the province
by ensuring they have access to high-quality mental health services and
supports. We invest in several maternal mental health services. Some of these
include postpartum depression and anxiety screening by physicians and public
health nurses.
HealthLine
811’s maternal wellness program also provides supportive maternal mental health
care for those who have suffered the loss of a pregnancy or infant. Registered
psychiatric nurses or social workers conduct assessments and provide emotional
support, coping strategies, and information on resources that can be accessed
in their own community. Free cognitive behaviour therapy is also offered to all
Saskatchewan residents, including new mothers who are experiencing depression
or anxiety.
Mr.
Speaker, we want all mothers who are facing mental health issues to access the
treatment they need and deserve. So on behalf of the Government of
Saskatchewan, thank you to all the mothers of our province who choose to raise
their families here. Thank you.
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Rosemont.
Mr. Wotherspoon: — Mr. Speaker, if you’re a fan of
Smile Cookies, this is your week to get some here in Regina in support of
communities. Tim Hortons in Regina donate 100 per cent of the proceeds from
their Smile Cookie sales to local organizations. This week those proceeds go to
the Regina Food Bank and First Steps Wellness.
On
Monday night I had the pleasure to join with community at First Steps Wellness
to launch their Smile Cookie campaign and to compete in the cookie-eating
contest along with Saskatchewan Rush lacrosse legend Jeff Shattler, the mayor,
the member for Gardiner Park, and other guests.
Mr.
Speaker, First Steps Wellness and their dedicated team deliver life-changing,
intensive physical therapy rehabilitation for those with a spinal cord injury.
The participants and their team are nothing short of inspiring. And with record
usage, we know how important the Regina Food Bank is to so many across our
community.
I
want to thank the owners and teams at Tim Hortons in Regina for their community
support. This past year they also supported Ehrlo services and the no-cost
community leagues including the Outdoor Hockey League with proceeds from the
Smile Cookie campaigns totalling more than $100,000.
I
ask all members to join with me to extend our thanks and to encourage folks to
get out and get a Smile Cookie to support these important organizations in our
community this week.
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from Carrot
River Valley.
Mr. Bradshaw: — Mr. Speaker, I rise in the Assembly
today to recognize May 1st as National Physicians’ Day. On this National
Physicians’ Day, we honour the selfless dedication, unwavering compassion, and
tireless commitment of physicians in our province. Our government is grateful
for the care and support provided by Saskatchewan physicians in the overall
effort to prevent and treat disease, promote healthy behaviours, and enhance
community well-being.
[13:45]
In
February our government signed a new four-year contract with the Saskatchewan
Medical Association offering competitive remuneration, benefits schedule, and
increased funding to support long-term retention, parental leave, and
continuing medical education.
Mr.
Speaker, our government has seen great progress under the health care human
resources plan in the effort to recruit physicians to the province. Since
September of 2021 nearly 280 physicians have been brought to Saskatchewan from
outside the province including nearly 120 family physicians. Many of these
family physicians have established their practice in rural Saskatchewan,
incentivized by our rural physician incentive program. Under the program, up to
$200,000 over five years is offered to attract physicians to rural and northern
communities.
Mr.
Speaker, I invite all members of the Assembly to join me in recognizing
National Physicians’ Day and extending our appreciation to the physicians who
have chosen to practise in Saskatchewan. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from Cut
Knife-Turtleford.
Mr. Domotor: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Cheyenna
Sapp, an actress and comedian from Little Pine First Nation has said that
comedy and humour are an important part of Indigenous culture. Mr. Speaker,
Cheyenna studied Indigenous studies at the University of Saskatchewan and began
watching local open-mike performances around the city.
Mr.
Speaker, seeing three Indigenous comedians walk onto a stage and perform was
the inspiration that Cheyenna needed. Cheyenna started to write her own jokes
down and began taking acting lessons at the university to help with her
delivery and has been performing ever since, Mr. Speaker.
“Stand-up
comedy is a form of storytelling,” Cheyenna has said, “and it’s a continuation
of Indigenous culture.” Cheyenna’s success in the comedy world has helped her to
land her very first acting job in the new Indigenous sitcom Acting Good,
which is currently streaming on Crave.
Once
filming was wrapped up, Cheyenna headed out on a comedy tour in mid-July with
two other Indigenous comedians from Canada in a group called The Deadly
Aunties.
Mr.
Speaker, I ask that all members of this Assembly join me in congratulating
Cheyenna Sapp on her very successful comedian and acting careers. Best of luck
as you continue to pursue your dreams and inspire other Indigenous people to do
the same. Thank you.
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from Prince
Albert Northcote.
Ms. A. Ross: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Cystic
fibrosis, or CF, is the most common genetic disease in Canada for which there
is no cure. It is estimated 1 in every 3,600 children born in Canada will have
CF. These children have difficulty digesting fat and protein, an inability to
absorb nutrients, progressive lung damage, and more, and all negatively impacting
the quality of life of the child and their family.
This
past February Saskatchewan became one of the first provinces to approve
coverage of Trikafta for children living with CF and who meet the medical
criteria. While not a cure, if this medication is started early enough, it
helps to protect the overall health and lung damage of CF patients. Coverage is
also available in Saskatchewan for two other CF medications which target
genetic mutations of the disease, Orkambi or Kalydeco. Coverage of Orkambi was
expanded in July 2021 for patients two years of age and older and who meet
medical criteria. Kalydeco has been listed on the Saskatchewan formulary since
2014.
Mr. Speaker, I ask all members to join
me in recognizing all children and their families who are living with cystic
fibrosis as we continue to work for a cure for this life-limiting disease.
Thank you.
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Melville-Saltcoats.
Mr. Kaeding: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Recently a
Melville teen, Lena Kohlenberg, learned how to crochet and it turned into
something very special. But “special” barely scratches the surface of what Lena
did for her late grandmother, Pat Bauldic, and is now doing for other patients
at St. Peter’s Hospital in Melville.
Among
the many things Lena learned to crochet, one was a small frog which she gave to
her grandmother while she was battling cancer. Lena noticed her grandmother
kept hold of that frog and it seemed to ease her anxiety and calm her.
While
her grandmother, Pat, has just lost her battle with cancer, that initial
gesture — and a great deal of help by her grandfather, Peter Bauldic — led to
the creation of LK Crochet Critters by Lena. Lena’s small business involves
selling the crocheted critters to everyone and anyone, but most importantly she
is donating frogs to the local palliative care unit in memory of her
grandmother.
Mr.
Speaker, the story doesn’t end there. Lena has had her own challenges as she
personally battles with cystic fibrosis, diagnosed in 2010 at three weeks old.
Lena’s mother, Melissa, father, Kurt, and brothers Chaise and Destin began
helping raise funds for Cystic Fibrosis Canada.
Mr.
Speaker, Team Love for Lena began, and together with the help and generosity of
family, friends, and community over the last 13 years, has raised over $100,000
for Cystic Fibrosis Canada. Mr. Speaker, this remarkable young lady, Lena
Kohlenberg, and her family are a testament to the great people who call
Saskatchewan home.
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from Martensville-Warman.
Mr.
Jenson: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Saskatchewan’s economy
is
reaching new heights. Statistics Canada numbers show our 2023 GDP [gross
domestic product] reached an all-time high of $77.9 billion, growing by
$1.226 billion or 1.6 per cent, ranking second in the nation in GDP
growth.
The
province’s GDP is expected to grow by 1.4 per cent in 2024, 3.1 per cent in
2025, and is forecasted to lead the nation with an increase of 3.6 per cent in
2026. And it’s not just our government taking notice, Mr. Speaker. Scotiabank’s
recent provincial outcomes report has said the following, and I quote: “Despite
setbacks from adverse weather conditions and weaker commodity prices last year,
Saskatchewan’s solid growth path is bolstered by a strong investment outlook
this year.”
Thirteen
major projects are in construction phase across key sectors including
agriculture, manufacturing, mining, and oil and gas. And BHP’s approval of the
$6.4 billion investment in the Jansen stage 2 project should drive growth
prospects over the next few years. Residential construction is also booming,
with housing starts sitting at levels above the past few years while most
provinces are experiencing a slowdown in building activities. Rapid growth in
business investments supports job gains, and hiring has ramped up since late
last year.
Mr.
Speaker, we know the opposition will continue talking down the economy in every
room, even the ones they charge $2,500 a table for others to be in. Thank you.
The Speaker: — I
recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Ms. Beck: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The fact is,
Saskatchewan people are struggling, although you wouldn’t know it if you
listened to the spin from that tired and out-of-touch government.
Now,
Mr. Speaker, businesses are closing, families are earning less, and everything
costs more. Mr. Speaker, it’s time to give Saskatchewan families a break. Why
won’t the Premier scrap the gas tax and give Saskatchewan families the break
that they need?
The Speaker: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — Mr. Speaker, “Regina ranked as the
most affordable city in Canada to purchase a single-family home.” Not my words,
the words on CTV News of February 28th.
Mr.
Speaker, “Affordability remains decent by historical standards in Saskatchewan,
unlike most other jurisdictions across the country.” Again, Mr. Speaker, not my
words, the words of TD Economics of March 16th, Mr. Speaker.
Mr.
Speaker, I would say this: one of the largest challenges that not only
Saskatchewan residents have but Canadians have, Mr. Speaker, is federal policy
that is being imposed, that is increasing the inflationary measures of which
all of us are facing each and every day when we go to the grocery store or when
we go to the fuel pumps, Mr. Speaker. First among them is the ever annually
inflation carbon tax, Mr. Speaker, of which the NDP have just committed to this
morning supporting Justin Trudeau’s budget, supporting the increase of that
carbon tax going from 65 to $80 a tonne, Mr. Speaker.
Mr.
Speaker, members opposite say, we don’t support that. But then they fly to
Ottawa, go to Trudeau campaign school, Mr. Speaker. That is their actions, Mr.
Speaker. That is the reality. What they don’t like and what Canadians don’t
like are the consequences of an NDP reality.
The Speaker: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Ms. Beck: — Well, Mr. Speaker, the Premier knows
that we don’t support the carbon tax, but I can certainly see why he doesn’t
want to stand on his own record. There are 91, 91 fewer businesses operating in
this province today than there were a year ago. And that Premier, Mr. Speaker,
has the worst job creation record in the entire country. Those are the facts.
Now
this Premier keeps selling out Saskatchewan jobs. That’s what the numbers show
and that’s what local business leaders are saying as well. Yesterday, Mr.
Speaker, the leadership of Shercom said that they had met with the Premier back
in 2016 when he was the minister of the Environment. And they say that at that
time, the Premier assured them that they’d have access to the tires that they
need for their business.
Did
the Premier make that promise back in 2016? And if so, why did he break it?
The Speaker: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — Mr. Speaker, the allocation of tires
in this province are not by any words of the minister, they’re by the
industry-led organization that determines where those tires are going. There
was a sole-source contract for a number of years, Mr. Speaker, which has
changed now to an RFP [request for proposal]. And I would go on to say, Mr.
Speaker, the Chair of the Tire Stewardship of Saskatchewan, Colin Fraser, went
on to say this morning, and I quote:
TSS is an arm’s-length from the government. They do not run
our operation [referencing the government]. They have an oversight of our
product stewardship plan that they approve. We run the day-to-day business.
When the RFP went out, that was solely on us. We developed it, we put it out,
and we approved it [meaning TSS, Mr. Speaker]. There was no government interference
with that whatsoever, and I don’t know where that came from or why someone
would say something like that. It had nothing to do with anything from the
government.
Mr.
Speaker, understanding that this is a volunteer Chair of the Tire Stewardship
of Saskatchewan board, Mr. Speaker, is a businessman in Prince Albert. The
entire smear campaign that we have seen come from the NDP on this individual
and other volunteers serving on this board trying to improve our provincial
environment is shameful, Mr. Speaker. It’s absolutely shameful, Mr. Speaker. We
should allow this industry-led board to do their work without smearing these
businessmen, Saskatchewan businessmen, on the floor of our provincial Assembly.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Ms. Beck: — Well, Mr. Speaker, he’s worked
himself into quite a lather over there, but he didn’t even come close to
answering the question. The question was this, Mr. Speaker: did he make that
promise back in 2016? And if he did, why did he break it?
The Speaker: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — It’s not the minister’s promise to
make. When I was the minister, when anyone else was the minister, Mr. Speaker,
it is . . . The allocation of tires come from the industry-led board,
Tire Stewardship of Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker.
And
I would ask the Leader of the Opposition does she feel, on behalf of the NDP,
that she owes an apology, an apology to Colin Fraser and all of those other
industry-led people that are serving on this board?
The Speaker: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Ms. Beck: — Mr. Speaker, this is hardly
surprising because every time we mention this deal we see that Premier or that
minister hide behind the TSS [Tire Stewardship of Saskatchewan]. Now they say
that it’s an independent, arm’s-length board with no connection to the
government. I think we heard him say that again today. Mr. Speaker, if only
that were the case.
Richard
(Porky) Porter sits on that board and is closely connected to both that Premier
and to the Sask Party. This is someone who donated $1,000 to the Premier’s
leadership campaign and $6,000 to the Sask Party itself, Mr. Speaker.
Now
why is it that every time we see one of these questionable deals, the Premier’s
friends and insiders are the ones who are pulling the strings?
The Speaker: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — Mr. Speaker, we’re going to line up
the list of apologies that the NDP is going to have to make. Another individual
that ran a business — actually three or four businesses — throughout his life,
retired, Mr. Speaker, spent a couple of decades serving on the SARM
[Saskatchewan Association of Rural Municipalities] board; served his community
on the RM [rural municipality], Mr. Speaker; served his community fundraising
for various projects, including a hospital in the community; moved on to the
community of Rosthern and Warman, Mr. Speaker, and continues to serve this
province in any capacity that he can. Yes, partially as a volunteer on a board
like the TSS, Mr. Speaker.
What
we see time and time again is the members of the NDP, now the leader of the
NDP, smearing Saskatchewan residents, Mr. Speaker, Saskatchewan residents that
are donating their time to make the environment cleaner here and to make our
communities and our province a better place.
The Speaker: — I’d just like to caution the Premier
on his language. It’s getting pretty close to the line.
I
recognize the member from Regina Elphinstone-Centre.
[14:00]
Ms. Conway: — Mr. Speaker, everywhere we look in
this province, we see Sask Party patronage appointments on boards and agencies.
We saw that at the Human Rights Commission, and now we see this with Porky
Porter and the Tire Stewardship deal. This is a premier . . . this is
a person who the Premier described as follows, and I quote, “He’s been a true
friend of the MLA of Rosthern-Shellbrook.”
The
Sask Party keeps saying that the TSS is totally arm’s length, totally
independent from government. How is anyone supposed to believe that when the
Premier’s true friend is leading the organization?
The Speaker: — I’ve let it go before, but I just
want to caution members. You’re not to be talking about the other party’s
internal business and things like that. So please take that into account.
I
recognize the Minister of Finance.
Hon. Ms. Harpauer: — Mr. Speaker, perhaps there would be
more NDP supporters on different boards or whatever if there were more NDP
supporters. Obviously the majority of the people in Saskatchewan support this
party, and ultimately they are the leaders in our communities, Mr. Speaker. And
as the leaders and as their abilities is why you will see them on different
boards within government.
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Elphinstone-Centre.
Ms. Conway: — Mr. Speaker, the government keeps
saying the TSS is independent. That’s their basis for withholding every scrap
of information on this deal, but that is simply not the case. Porky Porter
donated $1,000 to that Premier’s leadership campaign, 7,000 to the Sask Party.
How
can the Minister of Environment claim the TSS is totally independent when one
of the architects of this government’s tire policy program has donated
thousands to that Sask Party government?
The Speaker: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — He joins the many thousands of other
Saskatchewan residents that are going to donate to the Saskatchewan Party, Mr.
Speaker. That’s a function of where we are in this province. The individual
donors, Mr. Speaker, of the Saskatchewan Party we appreciate, and they donate
to what they believe is a better Saskatchewan. They donate to a party, Mr.
Speaker, that they know is going to ensure that our economy is vibrant and
growing.
They
donate, Mr. Speaker, to a party that they want to form government, that is
going to invest 9 per cent in our operations of our school divisions, Mr.
Speaker; over 10 per cent in our health care system, expanding care and access
to Saskatchewan residents; and investing directly back in our communities through
the municipal revenue-sharing program — was not possible, Mr. Speaker, under
the members opposite — and investing in our community safety, Mr. Speaker.
It
should come as no surprise to the members opposite that there’s people that
support the people that are running in the constituencies in this party,
including myself. What is surprising to those very people, Mr. Speaker, is the
absolute smear job that we see from the members opposite of good, upstanding
Saskatchewan residents that are donating their time to make a better province.
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Elphinstone-Centre.
Ms. Conway: — Mr. Speaker, Porky Porter and the
Premier go way back. Just a few months after the Premier was made minister of
the Environment in 2016, he appointed Porky Porter to the board of SaskWater.
And then in 2017 the Premier appointed Porky to the advisory committee that led
to the establishment of the TSS altogether. Then Porky Porter was put on the
board of the TSS itself.
How
are we supposed to believe that these appointments are merit-based when this is
an individual that has given thousands and thousands of dollars to that Sask
Party government?
The Speaker: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — We’ve seen over the last number of
weeks, Mr. Speaker, the NDP calling out upstanding Saskatchewan residents — a
number of them — some of them for work they’re doing in a post-political
career, Mr. Speaker, some of them for work they’re doing in retirement.
Mr.
Speaker, what I would ask the Leader of the Opposition, is she ready to go out
into the rotunda and repeat everything that has been said under legislative
immunity on the floor of this Assembly that her or her members have said? Go
out to the rotunda and make the accusations that your members are making of
Saskatchewan people, Saskatchewan people that have improved our communities,
improved our province, Mr. Speaker, and Saskatchewan people that this side are
proud to be associated with.
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Elphinstone-Centre.
Ms. Conway: — Mr. Speaker, after the Premier won
the leadership in 2018 things kept happening for Porky Porter. Porky was
appointed to the solid waste advisory committee in 2018, and thousands and
thousands of dollars in donations continued to flow to the Sask Party. How are
Saskatchewan people supposed to have confidence in these boards and agencies
when we see the Sask Party continue to tap their donors and their true friends
to lead them?
The Speaker: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — I invite the Leader of the
Opposition to go out into the rotunda and repeat what has just been said on the
floor of this Assembly today and over the course of the last number of weeks.
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Elphinstone-Centre.
Ms. Conway: — I would invite the Premier to answer
some of these questions, Mr. Speaker. And for the record, all we have asked
from the beginning is an ounce of transparency on how this deal went down.
You
don’t want to give us the report? Summarize the report. We don’t want state
secrets, Mr. Speaker. We just want a basic summary for the business case behind
this deal. Will the Sask Party do that today?
The Speaker: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — Mr. Speaker, members on this side
are available for questions on the floor of this Assembly and available in the
rotunda after question period each and every day. I invite the Leader of the
Opposition, if she truly supports this critic and the other critics that have
made accusations on the floor of this Assembly, go outside. Go into that
rotunda and repeat exactly what her members have said on the floor of this
Assembly. If she truly has faith in that member and many others, do it.
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina Elphinstone-Centre.
Ms. Conway: — The least transparent government in
Saskatchewan history, Mr. Speaker. Of course we will be repeating these
questions out there as we have continued to do for days, Mr. Speaker. We have
asked for this report. The Saskatoon Chamber of Commerce has asked for this
report. Shercom has asked for this report.
If
they don’t want to give us the full report, give us a summary, just a summary
of the business case that supported this deal. Will he do it today?
The Speaker: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — Mr. Speaker, as we learned this
week, the members opposite and the Leader of the Opposition also asked firms
for a donation to her exclusive cocktail party. The difference is they donated
to this party because they believe in what this party stands for. They did not
donate to the NDP, Mr. Speaker.
So
I invite the Leader of the Opposition again, if she truly has faith in what
that member is saying on the floor of this Assembly, go out to the rotunda and
repeat it.
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Elphinstone-Centre.
Ms. Conway: — Mr. Speaker, at the end of the day,
trust in public institutions matters. And when the Sask Party stacks boards
with their friends, their true friends and their donors, it undermines public’s
trust in these agencies. We see this with this tire fire of a deal at TSS. We
see this with recent appointments on the Human Rights Commission, multiple
friends and donors of that lot over there. We see this in so many places, Mr.
Speaker, and people are tired of it.
How
are people supposed to have confidence that these so-called independent
agencies are independent when the Premier and the Sask Party keep stacking them
with their true friends and their donors?
The Speaker: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — Mr. Speaker, the Leader of the
Opposition has an opportunity to go out and explain why they are sending the
very same invitations for fundraising dollars to her exclusive cocktail party,
Mr. Speaker. The difference is, people are saying no to that invitation.
She
also has the opportunity, Mr. Speaker, to go out in the rotunda and actually
say that she defends and stands up for and supports that critic and what she’s
saying on the floor of this Assembly by repeating it out there, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon University.
Ms. Bowes: — Mr. Speaker, it would be great if
that tired and out-of-touch Sask Party government cared half as much about the
women of this province as they do about their donors and cronies. But as it
stands, women in northern Saskatchewan seeking a surgical abortion have to
travel all the way to Saskatoon. Still, Mr. Speaker. We raised this last year,
but still we see no action from this government. We called for an expansion of
surgical abortion access to Prince Albert, Mr. Speaker.
Why
hasn’t the Sask Party done anything to address this for Saskatchewan women?
Does it have anything to do with the fact that we see the anti-choice flag
being flown at the legislature today?
The Speaker: — I recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Mr. Hindley: — Thank you,
Mr. Speaker. Abortion is an insured service under the Canada Health Act,
Mr. Speaker, and Saskatchewan, like other provinces and territories, funds
hospital and physician costs related to abortion services, Mr. Speaker.
I would say this: that the Government of Saskatchewan,
it’s important for us to be listening to people when it comes to health care —
to patients, to front-line health care providers, as an example, Mr. Speaker —
when it comes to pediatrics and the care for children in this province, Mr.
Speaker. And we listen to families. We listen to kids, and we listen to
front-line health care providers, Mr. Speaker. The government is announcing
today that we will be providing coverage, financial assistance for families
that need to be referred out of province, for their kids to be referred out of
province for medical procedures. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from Saskatoon
University.
Ms.
Bowes: — Mr. Speaker, it’s disappointing that this minister can’t even
say the word “abortion.” Nothing has been done to expand access in this
province, Mr. Speaker. I think that tells you everything you need to know about
the old boys’ club in this tired and out-of-touch government.
We’ve
also raised the issue of time frames, Mr. Speaker. The window of access for a
surgical abortion is different in Saskatoon than it is in Regina. When we
raised this issue back in November of 2022 and March of 2023, the previous
minister said the SHA [Saskatchewan Health Authority] was working on fixing
this.
When
will the SHA finally announce a uniform policy for surgical abortion across the
province?
The Speaker: — I recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Mr. Hindley: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I would
refer the member opposite, when she gets a chance to check Hansard
tomorrow or later today, that I did refer and said at the beginning of my last
answer that abortion is an insured service under the Canada Health Act,
Mr. Speaker.
As
was referenced in the 2023‑24 budget, funding was allocated to align both
referral processes in Regina and in Saskatoon as well as to upskill
obstetricians in Saskatoon, allowing them to extend abortion service to align
with Regina, Mr. Speaker. And that work is under way by the SHA. Thank you, Mr.
Speaker.
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon University.
Ms. Bowes: — Mr. Speaker, the last Health
minister told us in committee on March 8th, 2023, well over a year ago, “The
SHA is looking into this and I’ll trust they’ll do the right thing.” The right
thing, Mr. Speaker, means offering a uniform time frame for guaranteed surgical
abortion in Saskatchewan.
We
see an anti-choice flag flying outside this building today but no action on
abortion access from this tired and out-of-touch government. I don’t think it’s
a coincidence, Mr. Speaker. From mammograms to reproductive health, when will
the Sask Party start taking women’s health seriously?
The Speaker: — I recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Mr. Hindley: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I said previously,
work is ongoing by the SHA to align all health care delivery across all the
former health regions across this province, Mr. Speaker, and the SHA will be
able to provide a status update as to the nature of that work, Mr. Speaker.
And
I would just say that in the area of women’s health, this is a significant area
of investment and importance for us as a government. And we referenced that in
the budget this year: significant enhancements, funding, a million dollars for
ovarian cancer research; Mr. Speaker, three and a half million dollars for
development of a breast health centre here in Regina to be supported by staff,
breast health navigators, and the necessary staff to offer that service to
women right across southern Saskatchewan. And that’s going to continue to be of
significant importance for us to make sure that we are listening to women
across this province and advancing issues on their behalf, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Walsh Acres.
Mr.
Clarke:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A year and a half isn’t long enough to extend a
window, but that minister certainly leaps into action when he’s got to deny
cancer patients their parking passes. Talk about misplaced priorities, Mr.
Speaker.
When
will the minister get with the program and realize that his choices are making
life harder for vulnerable cancer patients?
The Speaker: — I recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Mr. Hindley: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I’ve said
before, we have made significant investments, record investments into cancer
care in this province, including to the Saskatchewan Cancer Agency. I’m very
grateful for the amazing work that they do, providing cancer services and
surgeries and support and diagnostics as well, Mr. Speaker. Screening, we’ll be
lowering the screening age when it comes to breast cancer in this province
starting in January of 2025, over a phased-in approach, Mr. Speaker. And we’re
proud of that investment and the work that we do.
[14:15]
Mr.
Speaker, I would say this: the member opposite, he gets up on a regular basis
and he says things on the record, Mr. Speaker, that aren’t always actually
accurate. Yesterday, Mr. Speaker, April 30th in Hansard page 5538, the
member for Walsh Acres says, “. . . vulnerable cancer patients are
paying to receive treatment at Victoria Hospital,” Mr. Speaker.
It’s
not correct. Patients don’t pay for their treatment, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Walsh Acres.
Mr.
Clarke:
— Thank you for the clarity to the minister. I’m sure that really settled
things for the vulnerable cancer patients who are paying for parking today.
Victoria
Hospital sees patients from all across Saskatchewan, northern and rural and remote
patients that sometimes travel long distances for their cancer treatment. Donna
Pasiechnik, a cancer patient advocate, had something to say about the decision
to cut this program, and I quote:
To nickel and dime cancer patients who are feeling stressed
and in pain and financially strapped is mean spirited and petty and surely
there is a solution to the parking issues at . . . [the hospital].
What
does the minister have to say to cancer patients being forced to pay for
parking at the Victoria Hospital?
The Speaker: — I recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Mr. Hindley: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I’d
provided answers previously, the SHA is working to align their policies across
the province. And the SHA will speak to that in terms of why they’re doing it.
As a matter of fact I think they have, Mr. Speaker. They have spoken publicly.
Here’s
what I would say to cancer patients, Mr. Speaker: that, as I said previously,
$26.1 million increase in funding to the Saskatchewan Cancer Agency in
this year’s budget, an 11 per cent increase over last year’s budget. Funding
provided to support cancer services, the ovarian research, ovarian cancer
research, Mr. Speaker. More funding for the breast health centre. Lowering of
the screening age. Additional cancer centres across this province to support
this work, Mr. Speaker.
And
you know, I guess I would say this to the members opposite who again, once
again are ridiculing, of course. The member for Meewasin, we know how often he
is able to get up on his feet. But the member for Regina Walsh Acres who went
on a bit of a rural tour I guess, Mr. Speaker, or he claims that he did, we
look forward to what their ideas are because we know we’ve seen them, Mr.
Speaker.
We
have a budget, Mr. Speaker, that details what is in the plans of this
government. We know what the members opposite have and that’s . . .
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon Meewasin.
Mr. Love: — Mr. Speaker, 67 of Saskatchewan’s
communities lost community members to overdose crisis this year. Those
communities know first-hand that more needs to be done to stop the rise in
overdose deaths. Access to treatment is needed, but people can’t attend
treatment if they’re no longer alive. Even SUMA [Saskatchewan Urban
Municipalities Association] understands this, Mr. Speaker. In fact they made a
statement about it earlier today: “SUMA recognizes that there is still much to
be done for those who are not yet ready to seek treatment and to address the
underlying causes of mental health and addictions.”
What
does the minister say to those community leaders at SUMA who want
evidence-based support for people when and where they need it?
The Speaker: — Sorry, I should’ve recognized the
member from Saskatoon Eastview. I recognize the Minister of Mental Health and
Addictions.
Hon. Mr. T. McLeod: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker,
the message that our government is sending across the province is that no
illicit drugs are safe. There is no safe use of an illicit drug, and we will
not implement any policies that suggest otherwise, Mr. Speaker.
What
our government is doing is warning people about the dangers of illicit drugs.
We have the provincial drug alert system. We have overdose outreach teams, Mr.
Speaker. We have the free naloxone kit program, Mr. Speaker, that has reversed
over 10,000 overdoses in this province since it was introduced, Mr. Speaker.
Our government’s approach is to focus on treatment and recovery.
We
know that the opposition members and their cousins in British Columbia want to
implement policies that would actually help individuals stay in a life of
addiction. We want to help them overcome their addiction and find a path to
treatment and recovery. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker: — I recognize the Deputy Chair of the
Standing Committee on House Services.
Ms. Sarauer: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker,
I am instructed by the Standing Committee on House Services to report that it
has considered certain estimates and to present its 15th report which includes
the 2024‑25 estimates. I move:
That
the 15th report of the Standing Committee on House Services be now concurred
in.
The Speaker: — It has been moved by the Deputy
Chair:
That the 15th report of the Standing Committee on House
Services be now concurred in.
Is
the Assembly ready for the question?
Some Hon. Members: — Question.
The Speaker: — Is it the pleasure of the Assembly
to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
The Speaker: — Carried.
[Interjections]
The Speaker: — Order. Order.
Clerk: — Committee of Finance.
The Speaker: — I do now leave the Chair for
Committee of Finance.
[14:45]
The Chair: — The business before the committee
are the estimates for Executive Council. The first item of business are the
main estimates for Executive Council, vote 10, found on page 47 of the
Government of Saskatchewan Estimates book.
Before
we begin, I’d like to advise the Committee of Finance of the process. First I
will invite the Premier to introduce his officials, followed by calling the
estimate. Then the Premier can make his opening remarks. Will the Premier now
please introduce his officials.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — Thank you very much, Mr. Chair, and
thank you to all attending Committee of Finance here today. The officials that
I have with me today are, to my immediate left is my chief of staff, Shannon
Andrews. To Shannon’s left is Raynelle Wilson, the deputy minister to the
Premier and the cabinet secretary, Mr. Speaker. Behind Raynelle we have Kristen
Fry, who is the executive director of corporate services. To Kristen’s right,
behind me and to my immediate left, is Jared Dunlop. He’s the director of
policy and research. To my right is Reg Downs, who is the strategic advisor to
the Premier, Mr. Speaker.
And
back two rows behind Jared is . . . Last year, Mr. Speaker, I’d
introduced Ashley as Ashley Knisley. I’ve since been informed, Mr. Speaker,
that her last name is not Knisley, it is Knisley and I’d like to correct the
record, Mr. Speaker, from one year ago. And it’s important that I do it this
year as I am quite confident, Mr. Speaker, that if we have the honour of being
back here next year and introducing Ashley, that her name may change again, as
I would congratulate her and her fiancé on a wedding later this summer.
Subvote (EX01)
The Chair: — Executive Council, vote 10, subvote
(EX01), central management and services. The Premier may proceed with his
opening remarks.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — Thank you very much, Mr. Chair, for
that opportunity for an introduction and for some opening remarks in what will
be, I’m sure, about three hours of back and forth, Mr. Speaker, of policies
between the two various parties as we come to the conclusion of our budget
estimates — 75 I believe this year, maybe 76 hours of budget estimates, Mr.
Speaker — where we have ample opportunity, the opposition has ample opportunity
to question some of the policies, rightfully so, that are put forward in the
budget, Mr. Speaker.
That
is the job, and I would say the effective job, that oppositions in any
Westminster democracy bring, Mr. Speaker. And I think this is an important part
of the democracy that we have in Saskatchewan and across Canada, and across
much of the Western world, Mr. Speaker.
I
would add to that that it is also important, given that this is an election
year, for all of the parties to ensure that they are putting forward their
policies before the voters of Saskatchewan so that the voters of Saskatchewan
can make an educated choice, Mr. Speaker, an educated choice on who they want
to lead their province over the course of roughly the next four years. We’re
seeing a little bit of an extended term federally with the minority
administration that we have there, but roughly for the next four years, Mr.
Speaker. And that is why I think this is part of that process in setting really
what is the platforms, Mr. Speaker, the stage for an election year here in
Saskatchewan.
And
we should be thankful, albeit whatever is said in election campaigns, Mr.
Speaker, I think we can all be thankful that we do live in the great democracy
that we have in this province and in this nation. I know for one I certainly
am.
Mr.
Speaker, everything that we were able to achieve in this province over the
course of the last decade, decade and a half now, everything that we’ve been
able to achieve as people in community after community — some of those people
discussed in question period today, Mr. Speaker — it starts with growth and
focusing on growth.
Growth
doesn’t just happen. Growth is something that everyone has to be focused on in
order for it to occur, whether it’s population growth; whether it’s job growth;
whether it’s climbing from one job to a better job to improve the opportunities
for your family; whether it’s investment attraction growth into our
communities, Mr. Chair; whether it’s export-focused growth, of which we most
certainly have been focused on over the last decade and a half; or whether it’s
even revenue growth within the government, and there’s different ways for that
revenue to grow.
So
I’d say that the ballot question over the course of this summer heading into
the provincial election is going to be, who is the party of growth in this
province? Who has a plan for growth, and who has ultimately a record of said
growth in the years gone by? So I am going to say today we will discuss,
ideally, three things.
First
is our respective plans for growth. The opposition’s plan for growth — and they
do have a few, 12 — and our plan for growth, Mr. Speaker, and we do have two.
Mr.
Chair, I would say we should also discuss what the various parties have said
about growth and how to achieve growth in our province, whether it’s population
growth, economic growth, and the opportunity that comes with that.
And
then last but certainly not least is the records that each of us do have when
it comes to focusing on growing our province and bringing our province to a
better space than it was yesterday.
Mr.
Speaker, so I’ll start with the plans for growth that have been released during
the NDP’s time in government, and as I said, over 16 years there was 12 of
them. It started in November of 1992 with a partnership for renewal. It went on
in 1994, the research and technology commercialization strategy that the NDP
released. They had another partnership for growth, building on the renewal of
the Saskatchewan economy they released in 1996. They had the PACE [provincial
action committee on the economy] report, the competitive of Saskatchewan’s
business climate in February of 1997.
On
to 2000, another partnership, the partnership for prosperity this time. It’s a
strategy for success in the new economy in 2000. It might not have worked so
well because they had another partnership for prosperity in 2001, which was
called the success in the new economy, an economic strategy. That was in June
of 2001. And in September of 2001, another growth plan was released which was
called growing the rural economy.
All
told in 2000, up until 2000 their growth plans, five of them by that point in
time, had achieved a grand loss of 7,642 people in the province. And it went on
with two more in 2001 and continued to lose another 2,816 people in the
province.
Mr.
Chair, not to be deterred, in 2002 they released a strategy for rural
Saskatchewan and it was a response to the ACRE [action committee on the rural
economy] program. That lost another 2,489 people in the province, Mr. Chair.
And then the actual ACRE program, the action committee on the rural economy,
was released in March 2005. There’s a final report of the business development
subcommittee. Those particular three years and that particular program achieved
a loss of 3,752 additional people that left Saskatchewan.
Again
another action committee of the rural economy they brought in phase 2 in 2005.
In 2005 they also brought in the Saskatchewan Action Plan for the Economy.
For goodness sakes, we needed one by this time. And last, but not least, Mr.
Speaker, the twelfth growth plan was A Blueprint for Innovation,
entering the 21st century. We’re a couple of years late on that. But we did
enter the 21st century, as the report for the Saskatchewan steering committee
on innovation.
Mr.
Chair, those are the 12 growth plans that were brought forward by the members
opposite.
We’ve
done two, Mr. Chair. We completed one in the year 2020. It was brought out, I
believe, if I’m not mistaken, in 2012. And it’s called The Saskatchewan Plan
for Growth: Vision 2020 and Beyond. At the conclusion, I’ll table
each of these, Mr. Chair. The members opposite might want to table theirs as
well. We’ll see. We couldn’t find them. They’ve been hidden, Mr. Chair.
But
I would say that this first growth plan, I remember working on this growth plan
as a new MLA, [Member of the Legislative Assembly] post the 2011 election. Many
others will as well. What we were tasked with as MLAs was to go out into our
community and talk to people in the community that are, you know, working to
build a brighter future for their community, and how do we bring these
collective thoughts together to really set targets provincially so that those
communities can work together to build a brighter province and a brighter
nation, Mr. Speaker. Again talked about some of those individuals today in
question period and over the course of the last few days. So that was the first
plan for growth. It was really a plan that was developed by MLAs consulting
with people in the community and then brought together through that
consultation. So it’s a plan that was developed by the people of Saskatchewan.
We
brought a progress report out in 2013, Mr. Chair, which talked about how we are
achieving or on track to achieve some of the targets that were in that original
growth plan, Vision 2020 and Beyond.
Mr.
Chair, in the lead-up to or shortly after 2020, after achieving many of the
targets put forward in that original growth plan, what we did was formulate or
update with a new growth plan for the province, titled The Next Decade of
Growth: Saskatchewan’s Growth Plan, Mr. Chair. And we are already on track
to achieve many of the targets that have been put forward in this plan. In fact
a number of those targets have already been achieved.
So
it sounds like, Mr. Chair, the province is going to be expecting an update in
the not-too-distant future because of the success that Saskatchewan people are
having in achieving the targets that were put forward by them in each of these
documents, Mr. Chair, allowing people who are volunteering and working hard in
industries and in their community building a greater, a better community to
come together so that those communities collectively can build a better
province.
And
so, Mr. Chair, I just take a moment and I would table the Saskatchewan plans
for growth that we have, the two of them, as well as the 2013 Progress
Report.
Mr.
Chair, I’d say — and we’ll get into some of this a little bit more as we find
our way through the day — but we should talk just a little bit about what the
various parties say about growth. And so I have a couple of quotes, some from a
few days gone by and some more recent.
But
the first is from Doreen Hamilton, who made a quote in the Whitewood Herald
a number of years ago, about two decades ago, and said, “The Saskatchewan plan
to increase our population by 100,000 people in 10 years,” which has been our
plan for some time, and we were able to start to deliver on that when we had
the honour of forming government in 2007, but Doreen Hamilton had said, and I
quote, “This is more wishful thinking than is statistically attainable.”
Not
to be outdone, not to be outdone a month later Harry Van Mulligen came out in Hansard
and said:
. . . they [meaning the Saskatchewan Party]
propose to increase the population of Saskatchewan by 100,000 over
. . . I forget what number of years, Mr. Speaker.
Well it is so over the top, it is so farcical that it flies
in the face of reality.
Well,
Mr. Chair, we’ve seen something quite different happen in that time period.
We’ve seen not only 100,000 people, 100,000 people move to Saskatchewan, Mr.
Speaker, but we’ve seen our, Mr. Chair, we’ve seen our population increase by
actually 225,000 people in the last 17 years.
Not
to be outdone, Mr. Chair, and to jump ahead just a couple of decades, we have
the current member from Saskatoon Meewasin who said in Hansard on March
27th of 2023, “We will never reach their goal of 100,000 jobs by 2030.”
So
first we would never reach the 100,000 people, and they’ve . . . Now
they are claiming we will never reach the 100,000 increase in jobs, Mr. Chair. Well
I for one have faith in Saskatchewan people that not only will we achieve that
goal, Mr. Chair, but we’re going to achieve many of the other goals that are
put forward in our plan for growth.
Just
last year there was 19,900 jobs that were added to the Saskatchewan economy
versus the worst job creation record in the nation of Canada year in, year out.
In
2023 capital investment to this province, 17.2 billion. Mr. Chair, that’s
up 25.9 per cent, second in the nation, forecast to be first in the nation this
year with another 14 per cent increase. 17.2 billion last year. The last
year of the NDP’s government when they had the honour, Mr. Chair,
7.6 billion in capital investment.
Value
of exports in this province, they’re up 71.6 per cent — not since 2007 when we
had the honour to form government but since actually 2018.
[15:00]
And
I have — I’ll get to it in a bit — I have a chart comparing more
apples-to-apples numbers from the time when the NDP had the honour to be
government. We’re hovering today around $50 billion of international
exports, 52, $49 billion the last two years. I believe in 2006 it was just
under $20 billion, or was $14 billion or $16 billion. I’ll get
the chart, Mr. Chair. We do more in ag exports today than we did in total
exports in 2006.
And
I think again that is one of the reasons why you will see me time and time rise
again in this space and speak about having faith in Saskatchewan people in achieving
the goals that we have set out.
Mr.
Chair, and it’s only through the strength of that economy that we are able to
make the investments that we again will discuss today — the 9 per cent
operational lift in education, the 10 per cent lift in health care, and the 14
per cent lift to municipal funding.
In
addition to that, when it comes to the education file particularly, we have
built, up until this budget, 65 new schools were built or in the process of
being developed as well as 32 major renovations. This budget that we’ll discuss
today added nine more school builds to that. One of those, on the east side of
Saskatoon, is going to be a joint-use school facility that will house 3,600
students. That will be the largest school that this province has ever seen, Mr.
Chair. So nine more schools, two more major renovations. And again you contrast
this with the members opposite. They weren’t building schools. They were
closing one a month for 16 years straight. And that is rather an alarming
figure, 176 schools closed over their time.
We
have seen investments in health care infrastructure. And yes, you’re seeing
investments in particular this year but in previous years as well with the most
ambitious health human resource plan in the nation of Canada. But you have also
seen ambitious investments in health care infrastructure. And you think of the
Jim Pattison Children’s Hospital, Mr. Chair, not even present in the province
under the members opposite. You think of the replacement of the Saskatchewan Hospital.
You think of the Weyburn hospital, of which I think we’re going to have some
positive announcements on the state of construction of that hospital in the
not-too-distant days ahead. You think of the upgraded facility, new facility
that is coming to the community of Prince Albert, and you think of all of the
long-term care facilities that have been built across this province.
I
remember distinctly, Mr. Chair, prior to being elected, when those
announcements were made I believe in 2008. The Minister of Government Relations
was the minister of Health at the time and made those announcements around 13
long-term care facilities in this province. It was shocking to the province of
Saskatchewan and to the people that we could actually build health care facilities
in this province because for 16 years all we had done is close health care
facilities and fire the nurses and doctors and allow them to move to other
areas of our nation.
And,
Mr. Chair, I would just say that if you truly have a plan for growth, not 12
plans but a serious plan for growth, you aren’t governing in a way that is
planning for decline. You aren’t governing in a way that is planning for, you
know, how you are going to manage the closure of hospitals. You aren’t
governing in a way so that you are planning for the closure of schools and
ultimately fewer teachers working in our education sector.
You
aren’t planning for a way that you are closing what amounted to 19 long-term
care facilities across the province. Over 1,000 long-term care beds were
removed from our system, Mr. Chair, under the members opposite when they had
the opportunity. You do not close health care facilities, fire over 450 nurses,
fire over 173 doctors in your 16 years of time.
When
you are planning for growth, Mr. Chair, in this province and you truly
understand the recipe that has worked so successfully for Saskatchewan people,
Saskatchewan communities, Mr. Chair, it is really mapped out in that very first
growth plan, that I tabled a minute ago. That very first growth plan that was
made and had input from the people of Saskatchewan through their MLA, where we
had set targets and Saskatchewan people and Saskatchewan industries and
Saskatchewan communities achieved many of the targets that were put out in that
plan. And the ones maybe admittedly we didn’t achieve, we came much closer to,
Mr. Chair, or they morphed and we are still trying to ensure that we are
offering the services that Saskatchewan people expect in this province. And the
only way that you are able to ensure that we are offering those services is to
ensure that we have a strong, robust, vibrant, growing economy.
And
that again brings me back to a government and a party that is focused on the
growth of our economy so that we can make the 9 per cent lift in operational
funding in our schools. A government that is focused on growing our economy so
that we can make the 10 per cent lift in health care funding, so that we can
ensure that we are fully funding the most ambitious health human resource plan
in the nation of Canada and building hospitals in our communities, most
recently like Weyburn and Prince Albert.
Mr.
Speaker, this is a government that is focused on the growth of our economy so
that we have the revenues to invest right back into our communities with an
investment in municipal revenue sharing, an increase this year of 14 per cent,
a program unlike anywhere else in the nation of Canada, a program certainly
that wasn’t available under the members opposite. And in addition to that,
investing in community safety, ensuring that our communities are a safe place
to live so that families are able to, after a day’s work, take a walk around
the block with their family and know that they are safe.
We
have every opportunity as we look ahead, Mr. Chair, in this province. We have
an opportunity to leave this place a better place than we found it, a better
place for our children, and a place where they can call home.
The Chair: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Ms. Beck: — Thank you, Mr. Chair. I want to say
thank you to the Premier and to his officials and to all of those gathered here
today, colleagues who are gathered for Premier’s estimates in Committee of the
Whole. And I do look forward to getting into the questions here today. Mr.
Chair, I think that we can all agree that Saskatchewan is a wonderful province,
full of amazing, hard-working people and full of opportunity.
And
I’m hopeful that the Premier and I will have a good exchange today, have some
debate about where we’ve been during his time as the Premier of this beautiful
province. I think all that any of us can be asked to do is to stand, be
accountable for our record. And today we’re going to ask questions and talk
about the Premier’s record, his time in government, and his time as leader.
With that, Mr. Speaker, I’m going to get
into the questions. I’m going to start by looking at job numbers. To the
Premier: how many people were employed in February 2018 when that Premier came
to office, and how many were employed in the latest jobs report dated March
2023?
The Chair: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — Mr. Chair, I don’t have the March 28 number but I have a number of
reference points that I think will help us with this. First of all, over the
course of the last year, or in 2023 we were up about 19,900 jobs. As we know,
month to month there’s seasonal adjustments that take place in the estimates
that come out from Statistics Canada.
We
are at a place today where we have the third-lowest unemployment rate in Canada
today, Mr. Chair. I don’t have the unemployment rate in front of me, but it is
the third-lowest unemployment rate in the nation. When we compare this back to
2018 we have . . . sorry. Today we have 588,300 jobs. That was the
job numbers that came out in March.
My
understanding that is in April, with the seasonal adjustments and the increases
that are coming, is we’re about 597,000 jobs is what will be coming out in the
latest numbers, Mr. Chair. And I would just say that today our unemployment
rate is the third lowest in the nation. It’s 5.4 per cent. That 588,300 job
number is up, relative to March 2018, by 5 per cent, so that is the relative
number that I do have.
We
will achieve 600,000 jobs, people working in the province this summer. That’s
the most that have ever been working in the province’s history. And when you
compare this . . . And I think this is the comparison that is
important to Saskatchewan people, is in March of 2008 the number was 500,000
people working in the province. And so we will achieve greater than 600,000
jobs at some point this summer, up 100,000 jobs since the NDP were in
government, Mr. Chair. Today, as I said, the unemployment rate is 5.4 per cent.
Under the NDP the unemployment rate was as high as 9 per cent at times, Mr.
Chair.
And
I think what is most exciting is if you understand that small business employs
over half of the people that work in Saskatchewan, and you think of all of the
spinoff opportunities for small businesses to service those export-focused
industries, those export-related industries, Mr. Chair, we have every
opportunity for so many people to enter the workforce in Saskatchewan, make a
choice to stay here in Saskatchewan. That hasn’t always been our opportunity.
It wasn’t in 1991 when I graduated high school, Mr. Chair, but it is today.
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And
we have opportunities for those very same individuals to go on and maybe start
a small business, be successful in that small business, be a community builder
in their community, whether they’re working in one of those large industries,
servicing one of those large industries, or working for a small business that
is employing over half of the people in Saskatchewan, Mr. Chair, and adding to
and building their community and raising their family in that said community,
Mr. Chair.
We
have every opportunity, I think, in the years ahead to increase not only the 100,000
jobs that we have but, as it’s set out in the plan for growth, to increase
another 100,000 jobs by 2030. That is different than what the member from
Meewasin had said. He said that we would never achieve 100,000 additional jobs
in this province, Mr. Chair, by the year 2030.
We’ve
set the target by talking with Saskatchewan people in industries as to what
they’d like to see. And immediately what we see is, a position of the
opposition is that Saskatchewan can’t do that; Saskatchewan isn’t going to achieve
that. It’s because they don’t have faith in Saskatchewan people. They don’t
have faith in what Saskatchewan people can do when they come together to build
their communities, to build their province. And we saw that most evidently
today with the attacks and smears in question period.
The Chair: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Ms. Beck: — Mr. Chair, we’re not going to find
any debate in the quality of Saskatchewan people despite what the Premier has
to say. Now I will say that the number that the Premier seemed to struggle to
find from 2018 was 565,000. And I thank my crackerjack research team for that,
Mr. Speaker. And taken as a percentage from 2018 to now, this Premier has a job
creation rate of 5.7 per cent. I gave him 0.7 per cent.
And
I’m going to disagree with the Premier on this. I think the comparison that is
most relevant to Saskatchewan people is not to 20 years ago. It is to other
areas in Canada. And, Mr. Chair, the number that I just quoted is the lowest,
the lowest in all of Canada.
Now,
Mr. Chair, Brad Wall and Lorne Calvert and Roy Romanow all created jobs at a
faster rate than our current Premier. Why does he have the lower job-growth
rate with this Premier in office than any other premier going back three
premiers?
The Chair: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — So first of all, Mr. Chair, I’d like
to read a report that was just released here on April the 30th of 2024, so it’s
very, very recent. It’s from Scotiabank. It’s titled Scotiabank Provincial
Outlook, released yesterday. And the province they’re referring to is this
one, but they do speak of other provinces as well.
Most provinces are grappling with pullbacks in business
investment as a result of restrictive interest rates, yet with upside surprises
. . . According to 2024 capital expenditure intentions, private
investment is expected to boost growth in some provinces, particularly in
Saskatchewan and Nova Scotia, while remaining a headwind in British Columbia,
Alberta, and New Brunswick. Public investment is anticipated to receive a
significant boost this year, offsetting some weaknesses in private capital
investment, notably in Ontario, BC, and Saskatchewan, where governments have
announced substantial infrastructure spending plans.
It
goes on to report on . . . It’s a subheading, Mr. Chair:
“Saskatchewan: Investment boom powers growth acceleration.”
Saskatchewan’s solid growth path is bolstered by a strong
investment outlook this year. Robust commercial and residential construction
continued at elevated levels in 2024. Capital outlays are set to increase by
$2.5 billion or 14.4 per cent in 2024, with notable increases in mining,
quarrying, and oil and gas extraction. Thirteen major projects are in the
construction phase along with key sectors including agriculture, manufacturing,
mining, and oil and gas, and BHP’s approval of the $6.4 billion investment
in the Jansen stage 2 project should drive growth prospects over the next few
years. Residential construction is also booming, with housing starts sitting at
levels above the past two years while most provinces are experiencing a
slowdown in building activities. Rapid growth in business investment supports
job gains, and hiring has ramped up since late last year.
In
the resource sector, a strong oil price outlook and stabilized potash prices
indicate a promising year ahead. Favourable oil prices are expected to boost
income in the province despite largely flat production levels. The
normalization of potash prices from record highs in 2022 following Russia’s
invasion of Ukraine seems to have stabilized and remains above historical
levels.
So,
Mr. Chair, there’s Scotiabank’s outlook released on the province of
Saskatchewan and, in fairness, other provinces as well. I would say one of the
reasons that we are experiencing a favourable outlook from, in this case,
Scotiabank — but we’ve seen it from many other folks as well and it is
impacting what will come up, I hope, at some point in this conversation — is
the affordability of Saskatchewan families, the affordability matrix of which
we’re living under each and every year. So we’re attracting the investment,
creating the jobs. That’s been identified by many national organizations. But
we’re also being recognized as one of the most affordable places to live in
Canada.
And
I quoted a few of those quotes into the record earlier today, but I’d like to
put one more on the record. And it comes from Paul Martin on April 30th of 2024
— the economist, not the former prime minister. I quote:
Saskatchewan probably has the best income-to-expense ratio
in the land. In other words your money goes farther here than just about
anywhere else in Canada. And at $71,000 we were above the national average,
even ahead of British Columbia.
I
call it NDP BC [British Columbia]. The $71,000 that he’s referencing is the
after-tax average income of a family where we rank third in the nation of
Canada, and then with some of the more affordable house prices that you can
find in Canada. Thereby you see some of the affordability comments that are
coming from national organizations in Canada. So herein lies, Mr. Chair, how we
have been able to attract over 19,000 jobs this past year. Herein lies how we
have been able to attract 30,000 people to move to Saskatchewan this past year.
You
contrast this, you contrast this, this economic plan released by the Minister
of Trade and Export, Mr. Chair, you contrast the economic plan that we have put
forward — the economic plan that is focused on growing our economy, growing our
exports, growing our opportunities so that we can continue to invest and
increase our investment in classrooms and care and in communities — is quite
different than what we see put forward by the members opposite.
The
members opposite, actually they did release their jobs plan. The leader
released her jobs plan not too long ago. It had this many details — zero. In
fact the whole plan consisted of 11 words. So maybe today is an opportunity for
the Leader of the Opposition to expand on her 11 words that said nothing and explain
to Saskatchewan people what her plan, her economic plan is for the province of
Saskatchewan. I hope it’s a lot better than the plan they had 16 years ago.
The Chair: — I recognize the Opposition Leader.
Ms. Beck: — Mr. Chair, it’s interesting to see
the Premier try to polish up his numbers on housing starts, but I suppose he
doesn’t have a lot to work with right now. I’m going to talk about
. . . He mentioned projections in the next few years and I want to
ask the Premier this. What are the budget projections for job growth in 2024
and each of the next four years?
The Chair: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
First of all on the . . . The comment on housing was not mine. I was
quoting the Scotiabank provincial outlook release. And I just take the
opportunity to read it in again — again, not my comment, the Scotiabank
comment. And the opposition party has issues with what Scotiabank is saying.
They can give Scotiabank a call and explain their masterful grasp of the
situation, Mr. Chair.
And
again I quote from Scotiabank:
Residential construction is also booming, with housing
starts sitting at levels above the past two years while most provinces are
experiencing a slowdown in building activities. Rapid growth in business
investment supports job gains, and hiring has ramped up since last year.
So
I just put that on the record one more time. And I want to clarify, not my
words. Those are the words of Scotiabank, Mr. Chair.
First
what we need to understand, I think as well, when it comes to jobs growth — and
I’ll get to the answer to that question — is largely GDP is going to drive the
jobs growth in Saskatchewan. We are an export-based economy; 65 to 70 per cent
of what we produce is going to be exported to over . . . I think it’s
163 countries was the last count this past year, is the number of countries
that we export.
That’s
why you see a very robust and ambitious effort by this government to engage
from a province-to-country basis in those countries where our Saskatchewan
industries and Saskatchewan people are doing business, and where ultimately we
are employing people in this province. That’s why you see now nine Trade and
Export Development offices that are operating.
And
I would just point to a news release today where we saw, Mr. Chair, have seen
over the course of the past year, a faltering in Indo-Canadian relations
between our respective federal governments, Mr. Chair. You’ve seen advocacy at
the provincial level, understanding that we do have a trade relationship with
India, and we’ve seen an announcement and a recognition of that trade relation
by the government of India with the reinstatement, the full diplomatic
reinstatement of our Saskatchewan trade representative in that market — the only
province to have that occur, Mr. Chair.
And
that is due to us being in those markets, advocating alongside and with our
Canadian ambassadors, our Canadian High Commissioners, helping Canada’s
advocacy in those markets but ensuring that we are prioritizing the
relationship that is important to Saskatchewan producers, whether it be oil,
whether it be mining products, whether it be ag products, whether it be ag tech
products, whatever that might be. And we’re going to continue to do that
because that recipe is allowing us to increase our exports in this province,
Mr. Chair. And it has allowed us to increase those exports by some 70 per cent,
as I say, relative to 2018, which seems to be an important date here today.
So
today the forecast in the budget for 2023 is a 1.4 per cent increase in the
GDP. This is by the average of the private sector growth forecast. 2024
in-year, 1 per cent. I think it was announced today we’re at 1.6 per cent
actually. So we are exceeding the . . .
A Member: — That was 2023.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — Oh, 2023. Pardon me. So 1.4 was the
estimate for 2023; the actuals came in at 1.6. So we are exceeding the GDP
growth forecast. That actually leads Canada, Mr. Chair, by a significant
margin. Significant margin. Imagine that — Saskatchewan leading the nation in
our GDP, not forecast, but actual GDP. Mr. Chair, the forecast for this year,
this coming year is 1 per cent. That would put us roughly second or maybe third
in the nation, Mr. Chair, in-year. I think and we hope and we’re planning to exceed
those forecasts as well, and then in 2025 a 1.8 per cent GDP lift.
Where
does this bring us when it comes to employment rate growth, Mr. Chair? As I
said, in 2023 it was just under 11,000 jobs. I said 10,500, I think throughout
that year. In the budget our estimate was 10,700. Forecast for 8,400 this year;
8,800 next year; 8,600 in 2026; 8,900 in 2027; 8,500 in 2028. It’s on page 32
of the budget documents. And so I just point the Leader of the Opposition and
all members over there to those documents, and they can see these numbers for
themselves.
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The Chair: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Ms. Beck: — Thank you, Mr. Chair. Now if the
projections that the Premier just stated pan out, that means that there will be
43,200 jobs created in the next five years in this province. In 2028 that means
that the Premier will be 38,000 jobs short of his target of 100,000 new jobs by
2030.
Now the question is this: how is the
Premier going to meet the 2030 target if the numbers in his own budget show
that he’s going to be 38,000 jobs short of that target?
The Chair: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — Mr. Speaker, herein lies the
difference — and this is important for Saskatchewan people — herein lies the
difference between a party that believes in what Saskatchewan people can
achieve and the NDP. Mr. Chair, the member opposite, the Leader of the
Opposition, has added up 6 years, not 10 years. And when you look at the last
four years, let’s go 2023, 19,900 jobs; 2022, 10,900 jobs; 2021, 15,300 jobs;
and in 2020, 50,800 jobs. Now that is a skewed number, Mr. Chair, because, as
we know, that was in and out of a global pandemic. If you add those up and take
those jobs at verbatim, it’s 96,900 jobs just in those four years, Mr. Chair.
But
as I said, we should remove 2020, in all fairness to the question. Remove those
50,000 jobs; you’re still at 46,000 jobs in those first four years, Mr. Chair,
and many more tens of thousands of jobs in the last 10 years. In fact when you
do the actual math, we are on track to achieve the 100,000 jobs by 2030. Herein
lies the difference between a party that believes in what Saskatchewan people,
industries, communities can achieve, and a party that comes to the legislature
to smear them on the floor of this Assembly.
Mr.
Chair, I would just say that in addition to the numbers that I have put
forward, this is a party that believes that we are going to have the
opportunity to far exceed those numbers because of the growth agenda and the
plan that we put in place. The recipe for success in this province is not a
complicated one. We go out, we attract the investment into the industries that
are creating wealth and employing people in our respective communities across
Saskatchewan.
And
we’re seeing that happen with record-setting investment, private sector capital
investment coming into the mining industry, coming into the ag value-added
industry, preserving our market access around the world, Mr. Chair. And we’re
seeing that in our export numbers. We’re seeing it in our job numbers, and
we’re seeing it in the people that are moving to Saskatchewan. That is the
focus of this government, Mr. Chair, is to set the standards and provide the
environment where Saskatchewan people can achieve all that they can achieve.
What
we see from the members opposite, what we see from the members opposite is a
growth plan that is 11 words. No details. You can’t get details in 11 words,
Mr. Chair. And I would ask, you know, I would ask the Leader of the Opposition
this question. When it comes to the important relationship that this province
has with countries around the world — 163 of them now that we export to — what
we have seen in the past, in addition to faulty jobs plans and faulty economic
plans, what we have seen in the past starting on September 16th of 2014, we saw
the start of what I call the scrap-all-of-our-trade-agreements plan by the NDP.
Cam
Broten was the leader at that point in time. He lost that election on his
scrap-all-our-trade-agreements plan, and we saw that scrap-all-our-trade-agreements
plan revived and revitalized by one Dr. Meili in October of 2020. They then
lost that election as well and had to find yet another leader.
We
saw the jobs plan re-announced by this leader just the other day. And are they
going to include beyond those 11 words the commitment that they’re going to
continue to scrap all of the trade plans that we have promoting Saskatchewan
around the world?
The Chair: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Ms. Beck: — Mr. Chair, how about the Premier
stands on his record and I’ll stand on mine, Mr. Speaker, while we proceed. Now
I notice that he had to pull in stats from a previous premier, Mr. Speaker
. . . Mr. Chair. And it is not a lack of faith in the people or
industries, businesses in this province that is the problem, Mr. Chair. As
someone used to say in this Assembly, the problem is that the best predictor of
future behaviour is past behaviour. It’s that Premier’s record that I’m
concerned about, Mr. Chair.
Now
by the time we’re done I will remember to call you Mr. Chair rather than Mr.
Speaker.
But
I’m going to move on to some health care questions. And the question is this:
how many hospital closures were there between August 2019 and July of 2023?
The Chair: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — Zero.
The
Chair: — I recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Ms. Beck: — Perhaps, Mr. Chair, they were
converted or something, but the answer that I have here is that there were 951
closures in 53 hospitals in the province. That means 951 times in 53 different
hospitals, Saskatchewan people went to get care and they found the service or
the hospital closed. And that is one more, Mr. Chair, rural hospital than under
Romanow, Calvert by the way, but they know those numbers, Mr. Speaker.
Now there were more than 3,000 days of
ER [emergency room] closures in this province. My question is, 3,000 ER closure
days in this province, is that acceptable to the Premier when people can’t get
the health care that they need where they need it in this province?
The Chair: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just first
would just explain maybe the difference between a service disruption and a
closure. A service disruption, yes, we have had service disruptions in many of
our rural and even in some of our urban communities over the course of the past
while. I would say that those service disruptions are most certainly are not
exclusive to Saskatchewan, as at our Council of Federation table, largely the
discussion that we have is about how we are able to recruit and retain people
into our respective provincial health care systems so that we can ensure that
we have fewer service disruptions across Canada. Ultimately when you look at
the strength of the Canadian system, it is provincial systems that build upon
one another to ensure that we are a strong system.
Mr.
Chair, I would say that that is very different than a closure, very different.
Because when you see a service disruption in Saskatchewan, we have every
effort, this government is making every effort to ensure that that service
disruption is temporary, for a very short period of time, and we are actively
working at hiring people to ensure that that service disruption ends and doesn’t
happen again.
That’s
very different than what we saw under the members opposite, admittedly, as she
had admitted under former premiers, where they closed 52 facilities. They
literally, they literally fired doctors and nurses, told them that there was no
place for them to be employed in this province.
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You
contrast that with today where we are, yes, experiencing challenges in a
post-pandemic world in delivering health care services, Mr. Chair, but we have
the most ambitious health human resource plan in the nation of Canada. It’s one
that other provinces have actively looked at. It starts with ensuring that we
have the jobs available in our system. It started with something as, and I
wouldn’t say minor, but one of many significant initiatives where the ministers
of Health, the Ministry of Health, and the SHA sat down, went through, and had
reallocated 250 new and enhanced positions. That’s moving part-time positions
to full-time positions, ensuring there are the adequate number of positions
being hired into our health care facilities.
Of
those 250 new and enhanced positions, Mr. Chair, 232 have been filled, been
filled and are offering . . . those are people offering services in
our respective communities. Other hiring that has occurred due to the health
human resource action plan that we have, the most ambitious plan in Canada, Mr.
Chair, are these: 97 positions in North Battleford, 70 of those have been
filled and they are nursing positions; 69 positions in Prince Albert, 44 of
those positions have been filled and they’re nurses — all of them have been
filled, 44 of them are nurses — 47 hires in Moose Jaw, 25 of those hires are
nurses; 30 hires in Yorkton, 11 of those are nurses; 29 hires in Swift Current,
7 of those are nurses; 28 hires in Weyburn, 14 of which are nurses.
This
is a result, Mr. Chair, of the most ambitious health human resource action plan
in the nation of Canada and one that this government put $100 million
behind to ensure that we are having fewer disruptions as we move through time,
Mr. Chair, fewer disruptions than many other areas of Canada and certainly are
not planning to close any of the health care facilities like the member
opposite did all too quickly.
Mr.
Chair, in addition to that and while we’re making those investments in the
health human services side — in the people, the very people that are delivering
care in our province, Mr. Chair — which are resulting in . . .
starting to provide real results, Mr. Speaker, we are making capital
investments as well.
But
just on the nursing side, and the successes and more to come, but the initial
successes in that health human resource plan on the nursing side, over a
thousand Canadian grads have been hired and are working in a health care
facility in Saskatchewan; over 400 job offers to Filipino nurses and other
health care professionals, Mr. Chair, 170 of them are in a Saskatchewan health
care facility, in a Saskatchewan community, offering health care services to
the people reducing the number of any disruptions that we have and increasing
the opportunity and the access for care that Saskatchewan people have.
In
addition to that, in addition to that, Mr. Speaker, if the best indicator of
future behaviour is past behaviour, let’s look at this. Investment in a
Victoria Hospital, redevelopment in Prince Albert; investment in a
now-being-built Weyburn General Hospital, development project in Weyburn; the
Regina General Hospital parkade.
And
we know the conversation two years ago in this city around health care revolved
around the need for long-term care beds. We’re building the largest long-term
care facility that this province has ever seen, Mr. Chair. The largest
investment in a long-term care facility is happening right here in our capital
city.
In
addition to that, we’re investing, Mr. Chair, in the hospital parkade at the
Regina General Hospital that was asked for, by not only the staff, but by
people that live in the city that are utilizing that facility, and I would say
people that live across the southern portion of this province that need to come
in and utilize this city . . . utilize those services.
In
addition to that, when you drive north on north Albert Street, you’re going to
see the province’s very first urgent care centre that is going to be offering
urgent care services, thereby reducing the load on our emergency rooms. And we
need to reduce that load and we need to invest in reducing that load, Mr.
Chair. But also an intake, an intake for those that may be living a life with
mental health challenges or maybe, unfortunately, entered a life of addictions.
We
have a Grenfell long-term care investment. We have the urgent care centre not
only in Regina but one coming with a partnership, a unique partnership, with
Ahtahkakoop Cree Nation in Saskatoon. We’re redeveloping the St. Paul’s
entrance at that facility in Saskatoon, a new long-term care redevelopment in
Estevan, Quill Plains Lodge in Watson, Yorkton Regional Hospital. We’re going
to build a new hospital in Yorkton, Mr. Chair. We have the Saskatoon patient lodge,
which received a million dollars.
And,
Mr. Chair, here’s an investment that I think isn’t unique but, Mr. Chair, very,
very important. And that’s in the breast health centre of excellence, the
renovations and the expanded care that are coming again right here to our
capital city.
Mr.
Chair, if the best indicator of future behaviour is past behaviour, that’s this
government’s, that’s this government’s. It’s ensuring that we have a strong,
vibrant, growing economy so that we can make investments like that in health
care infrastructure, investments like that in health care human resources that
are offering the very services in community after community.
In
fact, here is the comparison since 2007. Our health capital investment, it’s
$2.9 billion up, Mr. Chair. Since 2018 it’s up an additional
$417.6 million. $2.9 billion, the amount invested by this government.
That’s three times, that’s three times what the members opposite invested in
their 16 years that they had.
We
see today 1,000 more physicians offering services in Saskatchewan health care
facilities. We see since 2018, 260 more physicians offering care, offering
services in our health care facilities.
Under
16 years in the NDP not only did they lose people in this province, they lost
173 doctors. That was just from 2001 to 2006. I think it was about 6 or 700
people they lost. About a third of them were physicians that left this
province, Mr. Chair. And here’s the other one, it’s 450 nurses left as well
over that time, same time period.
Chasing
health care professionals as well as teachers out of the province is the record
of the members opposite.
Our
record, Mr. Chair, if the future behaviour, if a signal of future behaviour is
past behaviour, we have today 1,000 more physicians, 6,400 more nurses that are
working in our health care facilities. Since 2018, 2,600 more nurses working in
health care facilities in this province than there was today than there was in
2018.
That’s
the record, Mr. Chair, of myself, but more importantly it’s the record of each
and every member on this side that have been committed to investing in our
health care, our health care service delivery in this province. And we’re doing
that because we’re asked to by the people that we represent in community after
community.
That
ambitious health human resource plan that we have put forward, it’s starting to
show results. It needs to show more results and we’re committed to seeing that.
That’s that plan that we said we have committed $100 million to.
Fact
is today there are close to 21,000 more surgeries that are being performed in
2023 relative to 2007. That’s up over 20 per cent in the surgeries that are
being performed today. Since 2018, we’re up 6,000, and this year alone we’re
going to perform 100,000 surgeries, Mr. Chair. We’re going to perform more
surgeries today than have ever been performed in a 12‑month period in the
province’s history.
Many
of them are going to be publicly funded in the public theatres; many of them
are going to be publicly funded in the private theatres, Mr. Chair. Another
difference that we are going to see between the members on this side who do not
take an ideological approach to how we are delivering services in this province
versus the members opposite that would do away with over 160,000 surgeries that
Saskatchewan people have received.
And
that is maybe why under them, Mr. Speaker, under the NDP we had some of the
longest surgical wait times in the nation of Canada.
Mr.
Chair, if a future, if future behaviour . . . If past behaviour is the
indicator of future behaviour, Mr. Chair, we will stand behind the investments
that this government has made year in, year out when it comes to health care
investment; year in, year out when it comes to our investment in education;
year in, year out when it comes to our investment in the communities in which
we all live.
Mr.
Chair, we are only able to do that because of the added commitment that members
on this side of the House have — and I would say all Saskatchewan people have —
in ensuring that we have a growing and prosperous economy so we can actually
afford the investments that Saskatchewan people deserve
The Chair: — I recognize the Opposition Leader.
Ms. Beck: — Thank you, Mr. Chair. Well after
that rather long, self-congratulatory soliloquy, thinly veiled as an answer,
Mr. Chair, I’m going to remind us of what the question was.
It
was about the more than 3,000 days of ER closures in this province and why
people in this province can’t get the health care they need where they need it.
I think one of the things that the Premier mentioned in his answer was the
short-term, I think he described it, nature of these closures and disruptions.
I’m
just going to remind him that the hyperbaric chamber in Moose Jaw has been
closed for three years. Wilkie has been closed since 2020. And Lanigan is
approaching . . . well, over 730 days, Mr. Chair — hardly short term
at all. And you know, he references the most ambitious, least effective health
plan in the country that has seen 21 fewer nurses in rural and remote
Saskatchewan during that Premier’s time.
But
I do have a question related to this, Mr. Chair, and, you know, the revolving
closures that we see under this government. The SHA and the government know
which hospitals and facilities are closed and on bypass. They don’t share that
information. And we’ve heard from so many people in this province who have to
play a guessing game as to whether, when they’re on the highway, the local
hospital is open or not.
[16:00]
The Chair: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — Mr. Chair, I’ll just comment on a
number of service disruptions, and the Leader of the Opposition has mentioned a
few, the longer term service disruptions that we have, and I’ll get to how some
of those are being addressed across the province. But first we need to
understand what a service disruption is.
It
may be a disruption of services for a short . . . a period of time as
maybe three hours, Mr. Chair. Maybe an eight-hour service disruption when,
let’s say a nurse or a physician isn’t able to work due to an illness and
phones in sick a few minutes before their shift starts, and they need to have
. . . You know, the services that they are unable to deliver for that
period of time can be as short as three hours, maybe an eight-hour service
disruption.
Those
are all, you know, very much short-term, unplanned service disruptions that
will be in the final count of service disruptions that we have, Mr. Chair. But
those are service disruptions that the Health Authority and the local health
facility are just simply unable to plan for when they happen at precisely the
moment when the services are to be delivered. And so those service disruptions
are difficult to communicate in the short period of time, sometimes minutes,
before they happen, if there’s a snowstorm, if there’s an illness and a staff
member is unable to show up.
That
differs from some of the longer term service disruptions that we have had. And
those longer term service disruptions certainly are a focus of this government
with the health human resource plan that we have in place. As I said, it’s a
very ambitious plan, very much one of the most, if not the most ambitious plan
in the nation of Canada, Mr. Chair.
What
we have seen in those longer service disruption areas due to the ambitious
recruitment and retention of largely nurses, but I would say a number of
different medical health care professionals into largely rural communities, but
not always . . . we have, for instance, the Broadview Union Hospital
which has had . . . its emergency department access is now being
expanded by four hours on Monday through Fridays from 7 a.m. to 11 p.m. This is
effective Monday, March the 4th, so this is a recent one. Mr. Chair, that’s due
to the successful recruitment of combined laboratory and X-ray technologists as
well as some registered nurses into that facility. They have arrived due to the
ambition of the health human resource plan that we have in play and the funding
that members of this government provided to ensure that that plan can be
executed on by the Saskatchewan Health Authority.
In
the case of the community of Herbert, the Herbert hospital had reopened one of
their acute care beds on March the 4th as well, and this is due to
stabilization of the licensed staff that they have.
In
the Wolseley Memorial Integrated Care Centre there’s a partial resumption of
the emergency department services from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m., Monday to Friday.
Again that began on February the 26th.
We
have Biggar. We have Watrous, Tisdale, Moose Jaw, Melfort, La Ronge, Kamsack.
All had temporary service disruptions, but they are being returned to
. . . Those disruptions are being returned to service delivery, Mr.
Chair, and it’s due to the Saskatchewan Health Authority recruiting more
people.
Across
Canada we know that we need to recruit more health care professionals into our
system. That’s why you’re seeing in this province we’re able to say that we’ve
recruited over 6,000 nurses into the health care system, over 2,400 I believe
the number was since 2018. We recruited over 1,000 physicians into our health
care system. We’re recruiting lab techs into the system. We’re recruiting RNs [registered
nurse], LPNs [licensed practical nurse], increasing the number of nurse
practitioners that are offering services.
And
so these service disruptions, yes, some of them can be a little bit longer. It
is the goal of the government, and the Saskatchewan Health Authority has been
instructed, that they have the resources to ensure that they are hiring the
adequate number of health care professionals so that we do not have service
disruptions into the future. That is the goal and that is what we are working
towards. Some of those service disruptions, yes, they’re as short as three
hours and arrive on a short period of time.
The
longer service disruptions are available on the Saskatchewan Health Authority
website. I believe there’s six of them, longer term service disruptions, that
are on that website as we speak.
Mr.
Chair, I would say that this is a government that listens to the people in
health care, offering those services in our communities through the
Saskatchewan Health Authority, listens to the people that live in the
communities that are utilizing those services, to ensure that we are committed
and providing the funding so that those health care services that people expect
are available, they are accessible over the long term in their community.
Mr.
Chair, I would invite the members opposite to put forward what their health
care plan looks like. I hope it’s more than their jobs plan, which was 11
words. And because, Mr. Chair, it’s important if past behaviour is an indicator
of future behaviour, when it comes to the number of days or the number of
disruptions that the members opposite caused through decisions that they made
in closing 52 hospitals in this province, Mr. Chair, you take 52 hospitals
times 14 years times 365 days a year. That means 265,000 days of closed
hospitals under the NDP.
And
that’s just till 2007, thankfully, when the people of Saskatchewan made a
different choice. They made a choice, a choice to elect a government that is
going to ensure they are focused on strengthening and growing our Saskatchewan
economy so that we can actually invest in maintaining, increasing, and building
our health care services and our health care facilities in community after
community in this province.
The Chair: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Ms. Beck: — Thank you, Mr. Chair. Now I’m not
sure if the Premier said it was too hard, and I did listen closely to the
answer, but he would know that service disruptions, the closure of ERs is a
matter of life and death. If people know that they are not open, Mr. Chair,
they will go on to the next facility or make a decision about whether to call
an ambulance or not. I hope he reconsiders and looks at putting those closures
up on the SHA website, because this is something that is very practical and
something that we hear often from people in this province.
I’m
going to move on and I’m going to go back to a day about . . . More
than a year ago, and this was after the Regina General Hospital was put on
bypass again, communities of all sizes were dealing with the lack of an
effective recruitment and retention plan. It was put on bypass because of
short-staffing. And at that time, SUN [Saskatchewan Union of Nurses] president
Tracy Zambory called on the Premier to form . . . [inaudible interjection]
. . . I’m not sure if the member has something to say . . .
called on the Premier to form a nursing task force, very practical suggestion,
to find solutions. Again that was more than a year ago. Since then, Mr. Chair,
we’ve had fire code violations, we’ve had stop-the-line emergencies in
hospitals, in emergency rooms of all sizes.
Now the Premier has stubbornly,
steadfastly refused to say yes to a nursing or a health care task force. The
question is, why?
[16:15]
The Chair: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — Mr. Speaker, a few points I’ll make
on this. First, with respect to engagement with all of our health care unions —
not just SUN and with Ms. Zambory, but all of our health care unions — the
Health ministers are committed to frequent discussions with not only the
leadership but the members as well as they travel to communities across the
province.
I,
myself, engage with Tracy Zambory with SUN on . . . have engaged on
numerous occasions and engage each and every year at our Council of Federation
of which we will be in Halifax I believe in July, Mr. Chair. The first day I believe there’s a breakfast that the CNA puts
on, the Canadian Nurses Association, of which I think I’ve attended each and
every year that I’ve attended the Council of Federation. I don’t think I’ve
missed, Mr. Chair, but I could stand to be corrected on that. But I’ve attended
numerous times, not only with, you know, our representative at the Saskatchewan
Union of Nurses, Tracy Zambory, but with representatives from across the nation
as well.
In addition to that, as I said, both Health
ministers are engaging with leadership of our . . . union leadership
across the board in the health care field. And they’ve been asked to, and don’t
need to be asked because they engage and engage frequently.
And
they’re engaging with municipal leadership and listening to those mayors, those
reeves, the councillors in both our rural and urban communities on, you know,
what the priorities are from their perspective and what they’re hearing with
respect to what health care services may be struggling, what health care
services need to be added, and often about what might be working in those
communities as well.
We
have a number of local foundations as well that are volunteers. We were talking
again about one of these volunteers today in question period. But volunteers
that are working on behalf of their community to improve the opportunities that
they have and that our Saskatchewan Health Authority has in offering health
care services in and around their community and to the people in their region.
There’s
regional groups, Mr. Chair. In my area we have what’s called the Twin Rivers
regional working group. They work together on a number of different regional
initiatives there’s in and around the community of Rosthern, taking in Duck
Lake and a number of other communities — Waldheim, Laird, Hepburn, the list
goes on. A number of RMs working on regional landfill solutions, for example,
working together to fundraise their 20 per cent of their hospital that was
announced in that community, Mr. Speaker. That is a group that I personally
have seen both Health ministers engage with in their time and previous Health
ministers engage as they have engaged with other regional working groups across
the province.
So
yes, our engagement with union leadership, very important, Mr. Chair. And we’ve
heard the calls from Tracy Zambory on a nurse task force, and I’d say that that
conversation continues. But we are listening to other union leaders as well,
Mr. Chair. And also listening I think to community leaders, to those that are
donating and volunteering their time to improve the opportunities for service
in their community.
And
I would say as important as any of those, and in the over 60 communities that
these Health ministers have visited, Mr. Chair, it’s important to recognize and
commend them for the conversations that they’re having with front-line
providers, with our nurses, RNs, LPNs, with our lab techs, with the physicians
that are offering the services to Saskatchewan people, the nurse practitioners,
all of the people that are offering those services that other people in
Saskatchewan, in their community often need.
Mr.
Chair, and it’s through some of that consultation that the over-capacity
response in Saskatoon and Regina was arrived at. This was a solution that came
from the very front-line health care providers — some of them represented by
the Saskatchewan Union of Nurses; some of them represented by other unions as
well — and what it called for was to increase the number of a variation of
health care professionals in our emergency departments to ensure that we have
the capacity to address what’s coming through the front door, for example, at
the Regina General Hospital.
What
has come about from that, Mr. Chair, is when it comes to the positions, there
has been just under 62 positions that have been approved to be hired, and we’re
happy to report that the Saskatchewan Health Authority has hired 50 of those
positions. What the result of that is, we have a decrease in the number of
alternative level of care patients that are in our emergency departments, and
we have a decrease in the admissions of patients that might not have a bed.
Mr.
Chair, you add to this the investment, of that capacity investment of 62
positions, you add to that the investment and the people coming to offer
services in the community of Regina again through the urgent care centre, going
to be removing people from our emergency rooms, people that may have an illness
of some type or something that has happened that is maybe not emergent and
doesn’t warrant being in the emergency room, but it can’t wait 10 or 12 days to
see their primary care provider, whether that be a physician or a nurse
practitioner.
They
now have the option to go to what is, will be the urgent care facility and
receive the care that they need without taking up a place or taking up a bed
for a period of time in our emergency room, or as they triage in that very
emergency room, having to wait for a number of hours as higher priority cases
ultimately are being seen before them. And so, Mr. Chair, we see this as really
filling a gap and working with the SHA to ensure that it’s fully staffed and
being able to offer the services that are going to provide for better care not
only for the people in Regina but better care for the people in the whole
entire region, Mr. Chair.
That’s
how we work together, yes, with our union leadership. We work together, yes,
with our community leadership and those volunteers that are serving on our
hospital foundations, for example, but also working directly with the
front-line providers that are offering services in facility after facility, in
community after community across the province.
The Chair: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Ms. Beck: — Mr. Chair, it’s an awful lot of
words to say no, say no to a very specific request by nurses in this province
to be part of a nursing or a health care task force. They want to just, Mr.
Chair, not tell ministers or the Premier what their concerns are. They want to be
part of the solutions.
You
know, he would know that the concerns with the urgent care centre are around
how they’re going to staff it with the terrible rates of retention we have in
the province. Mr. Chair, nurses in this province — like so many others — don’t
feel heard by this government, but they keep trying to get their attention.
We
saw emergency room nurses who wrote to the Health minister about their concerns
with the rapidly rising number of contract nurses that are employed or contracted
by this government. In their letter they said, and I quote, “The significant
disparity in perceived value leaves the permanent staff feeling frustrated.”
They went on to say, and I quote, “When we can find ways to attract agency
nurses and keep them coming back, why can we not find ways to retain our own
nurses?”
Mr. Chair, it’s a good question. I’d
like to know what the Premier’s answer is.
The Chair: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — Mr. Chair, in much the same fashion
as in Regina — in a previous answer — and partially due to the conversations
that have happened with all of the aforementioned entities, including input
again from front-line providers, of where the Minister of Health has instructed
the Saskatchewan Health Authority to ensure that they have officials on the
ground in the hospital in Saskatoon.
So
they are talking with those front-line health care providers to ensure that the
communication about, you know, what positions they might need to ensure that
the services can be delivered is very rapid back and forth between the
Saskatchewan Health Authority and whoever within that entity, within the
Ministry of Health, and wherever that communication may have to happen.
In
light of that, across the board, Mr. Chair, in the Saskatoon facilities there
has been 385.61 full-time equivalents, additional full-time equivalents that
have been approved by the Saskatchewan Health Authority, and they are actively
hiring individuals to fill those positions. 182 of those positions have been
filled. When it comes more specifically to nurses and LPNs . . . well
nurses, there’s 144.76, so roughly 145 positions that have been approved to be
hired. Over 65 of those positions have been hired as well, Mr. Speaker.
To
the other question around, you know, where are we going to hire people to offer
services in the urgent care centre, I think . . . Is it 120 or 200
people that were going to staff the urgent care centre here? It’s a number of
folks that the Saskatchewan Health Authority are going to have to hire to staff
the urgent care centre here in Regina as it opens this summer, offering those
services. And I want to come back to those services because I think they’re
important and signify the difference between how the current government versus
the opposition view the delivery of health services and the role of the
government in funding those health care services, Mr. Chair.
But
they will be part of the health human resource action plan that we have, as I
said the most ambitious plan in Canada, a plan that has added 550 training
seats into our various post-secondary institutes in the province. Those 550
training seats cover a total of 18 various designations, health care
designations, so that people in Saskatchewan now have more seats to access. Twice
as many when it comes to nurse training seats in the province, relative to
members opposite. They’d actually, when it comes to psychiatric nurses, they
had cut the entire program in the province. We’ve reinstated that program, Mr.
Chair.
[16:30]
But
I’m reminded as well, in addition to the nurse training seats and the 18
different designations that we have added 550 training seats to . . .
Well let me finish on that first. When it comes to the grads that are coming
out of those programs, and let’s look at nursing grads in particular in
Saskatchewan — again coming out of a number of seats that are over double what
it was under the NDP — when it comes to the University of Saskatchewan, 90 per
cent of those graduates are staying in the province, employed by the
Saskatchewan Health Authority, offering services to Saskatchewan people.
When
it comes to Saskatchewan Polytechnic — also has a number of nurse training
seats — 95 per cent of those graduates are staying in the province of
Saskatchewan, consequently and partially because they then have the opportunity
to raise their children in this province. But they also have the opportunity to
collect on the graduate retention savings program that we have, $20,000 in
their tuition that will be returned to them over the course of a number of
years.
When
it comes to Indigenous people that are taking their nurse training at
Saskatchewan Polytechnic, 99 per cent stay and are employed in the province of
Saskatchewan. And so when the member opposite had asked, you know, where are we
going to get the people to offer the services in the urgent care centre? Right
here. We’re going to hire the grads that are coming out of our post-secondary
institutes.
We’ve
hired other grads as well. Over 1,000 nursing grads alone have been hired
across this nation, are working in a Saskatchewan Health Authority building
offering services in a Saskatchewan community. One hundred and seventy
Filipinos are here, Mr. Chair. A number more have been offered jobs as well.
But
when it comes to physicians, and we’ll use this and it can be an analogy for
the other disciplines, 60 nurse training positions were available in the
province in 2007. Sixty nurse training . . . sorry, physician
training seats were available at the College of Medicine, in a college that
was, Mr. Chair, being watched closely by the accreditation body.
What
this government did very early — in addition to the 13 facilities that they
committed to in 2008, the infrastructure spend — is they committed to a
significant infrastructure investment in the College of Medicine at the
University of Saskatchewan. That was the largest challenge that that college
had in ensuring that they were going to be able to continue to be an accredited
college for years into the future and train physicians for Saskatchewan
communities.
In
addition to that infrastructure investment, we saw an investment — and our
Minister of Government Relations knows this well, as he was the Health minister
at the time — we saw an additional investment in the College of Medicine,
taking those physician training seats from a number of 60 to a number of 100.
Mr. Chair, we’ve since went to 104, and this year 108 training seats, close to
doubling the number of physician training seats in this province versus under
the members opposite.
In
addition to that, the residency seats, Mr. Chair, where graduating physicians
have the opportunity to practise in a community and hopefully maybe stay in
that community, went from 60 to 120.
All
of that and revamping our international recruitment processing . . .
our qualification program. I remember the old CAPE [clinicians’ assessment and
professional enhancement] exam morphing to what we now call the SIPPA
[Saskatchewan international physician practice assessment] program.
Mr.
Chair, that was all hard work, investment, Mr. Speaker, on not just the
government’s behalf but all of those in the sector and the University of
Saskatchewan as well as other post-secondary institutes that expanded their
medical training programs, like the nursing program, like the psychiatric
nursing program, like the nurse practitioner training program. All of that has
happened, Mr. Speaker, through this government’s commitment to ensuring that we
are able to train Saskatchewan people to work in our health care system. And
all the while we are working to attract people to move here and work in our
health care system.
This
is a very, very different plan than what was enacted under the NDP. And if
future behaviour, the indicator of future behaviour is what happened in the
past, Mr. Speaker, lord help us if the NDP ever get elected in this province
again because we will not have a health care system that is worthy of the
people in Saskatchewan that are investing in it.
Mr. Chair, I would just go back to the
global numbers of who is working in our health care system and how we are going
to recruit people into places like the urgent care centre by believing in
Saskatchewan people, believing in our post-secondary education system, and
believing that Saskatchewan people most certainly will choose to stay here and
to work in our Saskatchewan Health Authority system
They’re
doing that today. Over 6,400 more nurses are working in the system today than
did in 2007 under the NDP. More than 1,000 physicians are working in that
system today than did under the NDP. Since 2018, 2,600 more nurses are working
in our Health Authority system today in a community in Saskatchewan that did
under the NDP, and we’re still hiring more and more each and every day. Two
hundred and sixty more physicians offering services in Saskatchewan than did
since 2018 — never mind under the NDP — since 2018, Mr. Chair.
You
contrast that with the record of the members opposite. Closing the hospitals,
yes, but firing the doctors and nurses, Mr. Speaker, I think is really
something that is inexcusable to the Saskatchewan people. Thankfully in 2007 we
saw the Saskatchewan people make a different choice, a choice of a government
that is going to ensure that we have a strong and robust economy, an economy
that guarantees and ensures that the investments in health care are going to be
on par with what Saskatchewan people expect. And we didn’t have that for years,
and that’s why they made the change.
The Chair: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Ms. Beck: — Thanks, Mr. Chair. A little free
advice for the Premier. You know, some day the bogeyman of the bad old days or,
you know, what happened 20 years ago aren’t going to work for people because
they know what it’s like working in health care under that Premier. And he
might also, Mr. Chair, want to check his facts around retention rates. You
know, he had a lot of numbers there, a lot of bluster.
In
2022 we retained a sum total of 14 per cent of pediatric specialists in this
province. Radiology professionals, we lose about 80 per cent out of province,
Mr. Chair. And so many of the problems that we see in health care stem from a
lack of staff. Staff recruiting is part of it for sure. Training seats are part
of it, but retention . . . We’re losing people because they’re
burning out from working short, working through their vacations, and working
under conditions under this government. And, Mr. Chair, we have to do so much
more to retain the staff that we have and do a better job of getting people
living in Saskatchewan working and staying in the health care system.
And
I agree with the Premier here, especially when it comes to First Nations and
Métis people in this province. Now this is something that I asked the Premier
about last year, and since then there’s been zero progress on that front.
My
question is this: when will we see a detailed plan to recruit and retain First
Nations and Métis people in health care like our Grow Your Own plan?
The Chair: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — Mr. Chair, “if past behaviour is the
indicator of future behaviour”; first of all, those are the Leader of the
Opposition’s words. She brought that up. I’ve used that as some examples to
make some comparisons and contrasts: the opposition’s record; the opposition’s
plan or sometimes no plan, lack of a plan, I think; or 11-word plan, Mr. Chair.
But most certainly the Leader of the Opposition brought up the fact that past
behaviour is an indicator of future behaviour.
To
the question around retention of Indigenous workers into our health care
sector, I just said one of those numbers in the last answer, Mr. Chair. When it
comes to the University of Saskatchewan, the general grad retention rate into
the province is 90 per cent. When it comes to Saskatchewan Polytechnic, the
retention rate across the board of nurses that are staying in our province, Mr.
Chair, choosing to stay in our province, is 95 per cent. And when it comes to
Indigenous nursing grads at Saskatchewan Polytechnic, that retention rate in
the province of Saskatchewan is 99 per cent.
Mr.
Chair, we’re talking about net numbers. And this is important because I agree
with the Leader of the Opposition, we do need to talk about net numbers. The
net number of the increase in nurses in Saskatchewan since 2018 is up 2,600.
The net number of physicians working in our system, our provincial system since
2018 is up 260. The net number of physicians since they had the opportunity to
form government is up over 1,000. The net number of nurses that are working in
a Saskatchewan Health Authority building offering health care services to
Saskatchewan people, relative to 2007, is up 6,400.
Mr.
Chair, these are the net increases, and I agree with the Leader of the
Opposition when she says we need to increase the number of people that are
working in our communities to limit the amount of temporary service disruptions
that we have, but just as importantly to ensure that Saskatchewan people are
receiving the care that they have invested in and receiving the care that they
expect in this province.
And
thankfully in 2007 they elected a government that is going to ensure that we
are focusing on the growth and strength of our economy so that we can make the
investments in health care that you have seen over the last decade and a half,
investments that this year included an over 10 per cent increase in health care
funding, Mr. Chair, unprecedented in this province’s history.
The Chair: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Ms. Beck: — Mr. Chair, we will leave it to the
people of this province to see if they think that the health care that they
have in this province right now is the health care that the people in this
province, those working in our health care system, deserve.
But
I’m going to move on. Now I’m going to talk a little bit, Mr. Chair, about the
Education minister, this Premier’s Education minister, someone who has presided
over the longest teachers’ action in the history of our province. This is
someone who has made statements on the very first day that are demonstrably
inconsistent with the facts. He’s rammed forward a bill that uses not one, but
two notwithstanding clauses to trample the rights of vulnerable kids. And he’s
sown chaos and he’s sown division in our education system. And frankly, Mr.
Chair, this is someone who’s shown himself time and again not to be up to the
job.
The question is, why hasn’t the Premier
fired this Minister of Education?
The Chair: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — Thank you very much, Mr. Chair.
Let’s talk about the Education minister here a little bit. And then we might
talk about a few other folks in this Assembly as well as we find our way
through this, if that’s the choice that is being made, Mr. Speaker. But let’s
talk about what this Education minister delivered on behalf of students, on
behalf of teachers, on behalf of parents across the province.
First
and foremost, just in this most recent budget, nine new schools. Nine new
schools being built. As I mentioned earlier, one of those schools will be the
largest school in the province. That’s due to a growth-focused government, Mr.
Chair. What that will mean is more classrooms that will available for children,
students to attend, Mr. Chair, and it’s through the largest operational budget
in the history of the province. Not only largest budget, but largest increase
in the history of the province, Mr. Chair, that our school divisions are going
to be able to employ more teachers, more educational support staff, Mr. Chair,
to ensure that our students are receiving the quality education in this
province.
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Mr.
Chair, I would say there’s a number of other things that this minister has, and
other ministers have achieved in the province as well, Mr. Chair. And that is
ensuring that, you know, that our parents in this province, they have a choice
on where they can send their children. They send their children possibly to a
public school. They can send it to a separate school, often a Catholic school
in the province, Mr. Chair.
But
they also have the opportunity if they should choose, to send it to, Mr.
Speaker, an independent school. We have parents that are sending their children
to the Huda School here in Regina. We have parents that are sending their
children to affiliate schools in the province, Mr. Speaker. I think of RJC
[Rosthern Junior College] in the community of Rosthern. We have Luther College,
Mr. Chair. A number of parents make that choice to send their children to
Luther College, Mr. Chair.
And
it’s this Education minister that has been part of ensuring that this
government’s record when it comes to investing in schools — not just building
schools but operational funding in our schools — continues to be strong. And
what we’ve seen over our time in government since 2007, we’ve seen an increase
in enrolment of 18 per cent, an increase of enrolment of 18 per cent. That’s
due to people moving here, people choosing to stay here, Mr. Chair. That’s part
of the 225,000 people that are living in Saskatchewan that just simply didn’t
under the NDP.
Over
that same time period what we’ve seen, and this current Education minister is
part of these numbers, Mr. Chair, is an increase in our K to 12 [kindergarten
to grade 12] funding of 57 per cent. Eighteen per cent student population
increase, a 15 per cent increase in the funding.
But
here is an opportunity for us to take a position, Mr. Chair. We know that over
the course of the . . . in about a week, we are going to have
teachers from across this province that are going to have the opportunity to
vote “yes” or “no” on an offer that has been offered by this government. Mr.
Chair, we feel that that is a fair offer. It’s a fair offer for our educators, for
our teachers in schools right across this province. It gives them the security
of continuing to ensure that they are among the highest paid — above the
Western Canadian average — in our nation, Mr. Chair. We believe that it is a
fair offer that has been offered to our teachers.
We
believe it’s a fair offer as well for our parents and for our students. It’s an
offer that — if our educators would, Mr. Chair, vote “yes” to — would ensure
that we would have the continuity of our classes till the end of the school
year. We would ensure that we would have continuity in the way of graduation
exercises and ceremonies for our children. It’s an offer that is investing,
investing in supports directly into our classroom across this province, Mr.
Speaker. It’s also an offer that, if our educators would vote “yes” to, many if
not all of them would receive in the neighbourhood of a couple thousand dollars
of back pay, Mr. Chair.
Mr.
Chair, we believe there is a fair offer that has been put in front of our
teachers across this province. We would ask for and believe that they should
vote “yes” to that offer. What’s the opinion of the Leader of the Opposition?
The Chair: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Ms. Beck: — Mr. Chair, there’s a bit to unpack there.
First of all, I’m going to correct the Premier. Associate schools, such as the
Huda School, are not independent schools. Luther is a historical high school.
But
back onto . . . You know, his misinformation that the only way to
have parents involved was to call an emergency session and invoke the
notwithstanding clause twice to take away the rights of children is simply
beyond belief, Mr. Chair. Parents have and will continue to be involved in
their children’s schooling more and more because, you know, it’s needed. We
don’t have the supports that are needed in those classrooms.
Now
school divisions, and this maybe goes back to the offer that the Premier’s
talking about. We believe that deals should be negotiated at the table and
teachers will make their decision with the information they have. But speaking
of information that’s in hand right now, we see school divisions working
through their budgets. And already we see school divisions make clear the fact
that more cuts are going to be needed in order to balance their budget because
of this government’s underfunding, despite the continued self-congratulations.
Last
week we saw Saskatoon Public send home information showing that they’ve been
forced to make cuts to classrooms and warn that they still face, and I quote,
“chronic underfunding.” What, Mr. Chair, or where does this Premier think that
that school division should cut next?
The Chair: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — Mr. Chair, specific to Saskatoon
Public, since 2007 the funding level was up about 77 per cent,
$125 million. This past year the increase to Saskatoon Public to a total
of $286 million being provided, but the increase was $26.7 million,
which is a 10.3 per cent increase year over year, really an unprecedented
increase in the education sector, Mr. Chair. Since 2018, up $55 million or
a 24 per cent increase. What we’ve seen in student enrolment increase in
Saskatoon Public is a 16 per cent increase. So funding has went up 24 per cent,
student enrolment up 16 per cent.
Mr.
Chair, I’m reminded of the very first funding announcement that I was involved
with in February of 2018. The very first allocation of funding and decision
that we had made as a cabinet, in my first cabinet meeting, was to add
$30 million to the education budget, specifically to hire EAs [educational
assistant] into our classrooms. That has been disbursed. That was in-year
funding, Mr. Chair, much like the 40 or $50 million being added last year
was in-year funding as well. That was in-year funding that was provided and
then was solidified in each and every budget after that.
In
addition to that, since 2021 there has been additional educational assistant
funding that has been provided to the level of $3 million to Saskatoon
Public. That’s allowed them to hire 166 additional EAs into their schools, and
this is on top of the relocatables that have been invested in and on top of the
capital infrastructure in the new schools, up to and including this most recent
budget, that have been included, Mr. Chair. So $26.7 million is the
increase to Saskatoon Public. That is a 10.3 per cent increase to their
operating budget, Mr. Speaker.
And
I appreciate the words of the Leader of the Opposition, telling me, you know,
the difference between a public high school, a Catholic or separate system high
school, a historical high school, or an independent high school, Mr. Chair. I
think the question that parents in this province have and policies that have
been put forward by her members on her side is, which of those schools specifically
would you close?
The Chair: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Ms. Beck: — Well, Mr. Chair, you know, the
number one question that I get about education is about the lack of funding
from that government. Now it’s great to have growth; there’s no doubt about it.
But you have to fund the services that go along with that growth, like in our
schools. And it’s great to have new buildings, Mr. Chair. It really is. But you
have to staff those buildings and that is not something that we have seen from
this government.
Now
documents from Saskatoon Public make it very clear. Since 2016, just before
that Premier took office, per-student funding has been cut by $2,485 per
student. Which supports — and I’m going to ask this question again because I really
want an answer to this, Mr. Chair — which supports does the Premier think
Saskatoon Public Schools should cut to make up for the difference, for the
decline of $2,485 per student in their system?
The Chair: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — Mr. Speaker, with respect to the
funding of our schools across this province, as I have said a number of times,
the Minister of Education has said a number of times on the floor of this
Assembly and in the rotunda and in other venues when asked, Mr. Chair,
Saskatchewan people, individuals, families, fund at a higher rate per capita
our education system than anywhere else in Canada — anywhere else in Canada.
Mr.
Speaker, what we have seen . . . So what that means is each
individual Saskatchewan resident is investing more in our provincial education
system than any other resident across the nation of Canada. And so for that
investment to increase, for that investment to increase per person in this
province, Mr. Speaker, I think the Leader of the Opposition needs to explain
where those dollars would come from.
We’ve
seen what happened in Manitoba. We’ve seen what happened in Manitoba where the
provincial government didn’t have a 9 per cent increase in operational funding
like we have here in the province of Saskatchewan. They had a 3.4 per cent
increase. And what happened is the Manitoba NDP government returned the ability
for school divisions to collect their own education property tax, and we saw in
one school division the increase of education property tax by some 17 per cent.
Is
that the plan for education that the Leader of the Opposition is putting
forward, like her counterparts in Manitoba? Like they had before when we had
sit-ins in this very building, Mr. Speaker, protests of people across this
province — and yes, we listen to all people across this province, Mr. Speaker —
because of the unfair education property tax system that the NDP had put in
place.
Mr.
Speaker, more largely to the point around the choice and the information that
was provided, or schooled to me rather, on our historical high schools, Mr.
Speaker, our qualified independent schools, our certified independent schools,
of which they have taken the stance that they would not provide parents with
that choice.
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Mr.
Speaker, in Saskatoon we have a school, the Misbah School, which is currently
moving from being a public associated school to an independent school. Is that
a school that the NDP would not fund?
The Chair: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Ms. Beck: — Well, Mr. Chair, obviously the
Premier has no ideas about where Saskatoon Public should cut with the
underfunding that they’ve been handed by that government. That’s not a
surprise. He didn’t even touch it, Mr. Chair.
Now
recently about 3,000 teachers and their supporters came to the Legislative
Building. Actually it was about a year ago. But at that time, the Premier said
that those teachers had been heard. Well since then we’ve seen a bad-faith
billboard campaign, sometimes bus ads, using taxpayers’ dollars to vilify, to
vilify teachers in this province. Mr. Chair, some of those billboards are even
still up today.
The Chair: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — As we said in the last question, Mr.
Chair, in Saskatchewan, Saskatchewan people are investing more per capita in
our education system than in any other province across the nation of Canada. We
have seen the decisions that have been made in NDP Alberta where they have
increased their funding by, not 9 per cent like here in Saskatchewan, but 3.4
per cent. We’re seeing the resulting fallout with respect to the decisions that
local divisions are making in increasing education property tax in at least one
school division by some 17 per cent.
Mr.
Speaker, I would say with respect to the choice that parents have in where they
can send their children, Mr. Speaker, to whether it be a public system, whether
it be the Catholic system, whether it be an independent school, a qualified
independent, certified independent school, Mr. Speaker, a historical high
school, whatever that might be, Mr. Chair, I’ll just read into the record a
couple of quotes with . . . yeah, a couple of quotes with respect to
the members opposite.
The
member for Regina University said back in August of ’22 when asked if the NDP
would stop funding all private schools like the Huda School, Luther College was
mentioned, she said “obviously” on Twitter, Mr. Chair. That was August the 2nd
of 2022, Mr. Chair.
It
goes on. The Leader of the Opposition has not only stated in the NDP policy is
that they would not, just not fund independent schools in this province, when
asked years ago when we had a court case going on, Mr. Speaker — it involved
the public and separate school system in Theodore, Mr. Chair — and I would
quote the question that came from a reporter: “And so if I hear you correct,
besides the constitutional obligation to have a Catholic school system you’re
not as keen on giving 80 cents on the dollar to other independent associate
schools?” And the response from the now Leader of the Opposition was, “If that
comes at the expense of the publicly funded school system, no.”
Mr.
Chair, the NDP record is that they would not provide the choice for parents on
where to send their schools. And so I would direct the question back at the
Leader of the Opposition one more time. Given the opportunity, would she or
would she not fund the Misbah School in Saskatoon?
The Chair: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Ms. Beck: — Well, Mr. Chair, again we have the
Premier auditioning for the role of the Leader of the Opposition. He’s doing an
okay job at it; give him a B. But I’m going to move on because, you know,
there’s nonsense in what’s coming out of the Premier right now.
I’m
going to move on to something that is very important to the people of this
province, to people back at home, and that’s cattle producers in this province.
And cattle producers in this province are well-known, long-standing stewards of
the land. In addition to producing the best beef in the world they sequester
carbon in the soil, and livestock producers are essential for preserving native
grasslands. The work that the ag sector does to reduce and sequester emissions
is certainly important, but there’s been zero recognition or incentive for that
under the government.
The question is, why not? Those
producers are struggling. Why is there still no plan that recognizes the role
that producers play in protecting wetlands, grasslands, and addressing climate
change? Why is there no support to encourage these producers to continue to
remain in cattle and continue to do the important work that they do, producing
the best beef in the world, and also being stewards of the land?
The Chair: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — Happy to have an agricultural
question on the floor of the Assembly, Mr. Chair. And let me say that this is a
party, a government that will always have the backs of our producers. And I
would say that the very first thing that this government did very, very early
in the mandate — it was Bill No. 1 or 2 — was to remove the very unfair
education property tax on this province’s farmers.
Mr.
Speaker, that was the start and certainly not the end of the conversation. In
just the last couple of years we’ve seen as it relates to cattle farming, Mr.
Speaker . . . But I’m going to go on to the broader agricultural
picture as well and the role that we are playing not only in providing food
security to Saskatchewan residents, Canadian residents, North American
residents, but over 163 countries around the world because this is a space
where this government has most certainly been firmly supportive of supporting
our ranchers, supporting our farmers here at home, but also supporting them by
ensuring that they have market access and have access to investment abroad.
Just
this last year, Mr. Chair . . . And this is another difference. And I
can remember the former member from Melville-Saltcoats standing somewhere over
there, and he was crystal clear when he opened his mouth, Mr. Speaker, on the
floor of this Assembly, and talking about the lack of NDP commitment to the
agricultural sector by closing the rural farm service offices that we had, not
fully funding the ag business risk management programs that we have a
partnership with the federal government.
Thankfully
again in 2007, that has all changed. It was that minister, and we’ve had three,
not very many over 16 years, Mr. Chair. We’ve had three Ag ministers that have
all supported ensuring that we, rather than having ad hoc programs like the NDP
did, Mr. Chair, that we have very strong crop insurance programs, business risk
management programs, and have extended those from not only crop insurance to
the cattle industry with some of the livestock programs that we have in place.
Just
this past year there’s an additional $70 million that was provided to
support drought-affected livestock producers so that they can maintain their
herd in those times like the last couple years in certain areas of the province
where we just simply haven’t had enough rain. There was a water program that
was invested in so that those ag producers could either dig another dugout or
pump some water to ensure that they could maintain the herd, the breeding stock
that they may have been working on for generations, Mr. Chair. And I would dare
say it’s some of the most valuable breeding stock in the world.
Mr.
Speaker, we continue to invest in wildlife compensation and in looking at how
we can expand the support programs that our agricultural producers have.
Mr.
Chair, here’s another significant difference when it comes to working with the
ag industry and how the ag industry is actually having a broader impact when it
comes to addressing climate change, not just here at home, but abroad. We had
commissioned the Global Institute for Food Security — another entity that
didn’t exist under the NDP, Mr. Chair, does exist thankfully under this
government — a research-based entity. We had commissioned them to look at the
crops that we’re growing in Saskatchewan and look at some of the other methods
that some of our competitors are using and how they are producing those crops
in other areas of the world.
And
here’s what they found. Canola and wheat, Mr. Chair, that is produced in this
province using zero-till technology, using GPS [global positioning system]
technology, using the latest in ag tech, Mr. Chair, and using the zero-till
technology that is innovated in Saskatchewan and largely is being built in the
province of Saskatchewan, what they have found is that our canola and wheat is
produced with a 65 per cent lower carbon content on a per-tonne basis than the
next seven largest producers globally.
When
it comes to field peas, that number’s 92 per cent lower and lentils is 95 per
cent lower. Thank goodness for guys like Al Slinkard that innovated that
particular crop and have created the access point for us into a number of
countries throughout the Middle East, Mr. Chair.
Mr.
Speaker, in addition to producing the most sustainable, ethical,
cost-competitive, and highest quality food that you can find on earth, we have
$20 million of agricultural natural grasslands that is sequestering large
amounts of carbon day in, day out, Mr. Speaker. And we’re working with the ag
community on how we can ensure that they are recognized, recognized for the
work that they are doing.
We
are working with the ag manufacturing community to ensure that they are
recognized that when they sell 1,000 drills to the country of India — and yes,
that has happened, Mr. Chair — that they are also recognized allowing Indian
farmers to have the same carbon sequestration opportunities as what we are
experiencing here in Saskatchewan, carbon sequestration opportunities that are,
in this case, sequestering over 15 million tonnes of carbon. That’s 95 per
cent of what the entire industry emits, Mr. Chair.
We
have the most sustainable agricultural producers in the world. We took them to
Dubai to put them on the front stage for the world, Mr. Chair. We bring them
with us when we’re in India. We bring them with us when we’re abroad. We’re
ensuring that we have market access. We’re ensuring that they have access to
investment, and we’re ensuring that their story is heard.
That’s
unlike the members opposite entire agricultural climate change policy, is to
count cow farts, Mr. Speaker. That’s what we see from the members in Ottawa,
their leaders, Mr. Speaker, the minority administration, that their leader had
just said he is going to support one more time and one more budget, Mr. Chair,
one more budget in ensuring that industries that are creating wealth,
industries that have created wealth and created lifestyles like agriculture,
like cattle ranching in this province, Mr. Speaker, are challenged due to
Liberal-NDP policies coming from Ottawa, Liberal-NDP policies that
. . . like the fertilizer cap, Mr. Chair. Explain that in rural
Saskatchewan. Bring that up at a SARM convention, Mr. Speaker. But Liberal-NDP
policies like this year, that the NDP are supporting in Ottawa that are
increasing our carbon tax from $65 to $80 a tonne, Mr. Speaker.
We
have a better plan in Saskatchewan, and our ag producers support it.
The Chair: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Ms. Beck: — Mr. Chair, I’m not really sure what
some of that was or why he’s shouting so much. The report he referenced is a
great report. We agree with it. This is what we’re talking about, Mr. Chair.
But it’s not all good news out there.
[17:15]
We’re
talking about cattle producers and ranchers. And I want, you know, with his
vast knowledge of the cattle industry, I’m sure he knows this already, Mr.
Chair, but there are 70,000, 70,000 fewer cattle, beef cattle in this province
than there were last year. The number for cow-calf pairs is down 85,000, Mr.
Chair. Producers are struggling in this province, but you know, that’s what you
got from that Premier.
But
they’re not the only ones. They’re not the only ones who are struggling. The changes
that this government has made to the PST [provincial sales tax] are driving
costs up for all families in the province. In 2017 the budget brought in the
largest, the largest tax hikes in Saskatchewan’s history. And two years ago the
Premier imposed 32 fee and tax hikes to make life more expensive for
Saskatchewan people at a time when they were already struggling.
The Chair: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — To just draw a couple of comparisons
here, Mr. Chair, first is in the . . . And again I would direct the
Leader of the Opposition and anyone that has their budget documents with them —
and if you don’t I would urge you to go get them — there’s a lot of information
in these particular documents. But the bottom of page 75, the bottom of page
75, the intercity comparison of taxes, utilities, and housing. For a family at
$75,000 of total income, number one ranking in affordability measure is the
city of Regina. They have a 6 per cent PST, Manitoba seven, Toronto eight
. . . or Ontario eight, and British Columbia has a 7 per cent PST as
well.
But
Regina is the most affordable city to live at a $75,000 income level, at
$100,000 income level for a family, and again at $125,000 income level, Mr.
Chair, all paying less tax than they did in 2007, Mr. Speaker, and when
included taxes, utilities, Mr. Chair, paying less than their other counterparts
across the nation.
One
of the things we talk about with respect to the affordability measures that
Saskatchewan people have that may not be present in other areas of the nation,
is the fact that one of the very first things that this government did was look
at how they could remove low-income individuals off the tax roll, the
provincial tax roll altogether. And they were able to remove 112,000 people off
that tax roll. That’s a measure that is preserved in this year’s budget with
over $2 billion of affordability measures. This alone is saving
Saskatchewan low-income individuals, often parents, over $830 million each
and every year — $830 million each and every year.
In
fact in 2024 in Saskatchewan, a family of four is going to pay no provincial
income tax on their first $59,475. Under the NDP that same family of four, so
in 2007 that same family of four started paying taxes at $26,150. That’s a
difference of $33,000. That is how you take 112,000 people off the income rolls
altogether.
One
more piece with this, Mr. Chair, is . . . Well let me go on. I’ll do
the interprovincial comparison as well. We have in Saskatchewan one of the
highest tax-free thresholds, the threshold on where you start paying provincial
income tax. As I said, that’s $59,475 in Saskatchewan. We have a 7 per cent PST
here. In Alberta that number is 55,700. In Alberta you would pay $3,775 more in
tax than you do in Saskatchewan.
In
BC, NDP BC, you start paying tax at 39,930. They have a 7 per cent PST there —
9 per cent it was under the NDP in this province — but in NDP BC you start
paying tax at $39,930. You would pay 19,000 . . . or in Saskatchewan
you earn $19,545 more tax-free before you start paying tax. NDP Manitoba, that
number is $21,425 more you can earn in Saskatchewan before you start paying
tax. New Brunswick is $16,425 more you can earn in this province before you
start paying tax. Relative to Nova Scotia, we’re $35,000 higher. Relative to
Newfoundland, we’re $23,000 higher and relative to Prince Edward Island, a
resident of Saskatchewan starts paying income tax $26,000 higher than you would
in that province.
Mr.
Speaker, with respect to the question on the increase in PST in the budget
. . . And this is an important perspective, Mr. Speaker. There’s more
people in this province that are earning more money and they are spending more
money. And so the PST numbers are going to increase.
What
that means is municipal revenue sharing is also going to increase to our
communities as they share in that revenue stream, Mr. Speaker, that is
collected through the 6 per cent PST that we have here. Was 9 per cent under
the members opposite and is higher than that in virtually every other province
that is charging a provincial sales tax, Mr. Speaker.
So
in this province, Mr. Speaker, what we are experiencing with 225,000 additional
people relative to when the NDP were in government is increased PST revenues,
Mr. Chair. Increased PST revenues because there are more people that are
spending more money, and we in turn are ensuring that those dollars are landing
in our municipalities through the strongest and only municipal revenue-sharing
program in the nation of Canada and one that experienced a 14 per cent lift
this year.
The Chair: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Ms. Beck: — Well he said a lot of things again,
Mr. Chair, but kind of missed the question. So I want to thank my crackerjack
research team because they had the answer. The question was about the cost to
families in this province with the Sask Party government’s PST changes since
2017. The number — and they can write this down — is $1,029 for the average
family who’s earning $100,000 a year, Mr. Chair.
But
you know, under . . . Listening to this Premier, you’d think people
have never had it so good and they should be, you know, just celebrating. But
Angus Reid recently released a report, a respected polling firm, that showed
that 57 per cent of Saskatchewan people are struggling to pay for their
groceries.
In
fact the question that found this asked . . . found 57 per cent of
Saskatchewan people finding it difficult or very difficult to put food on the
table, Mr. Chair, and that the number one issue in this province — should be no
surprise to that Premier — is the cost of living. We lead the nation in
mortgages in arrears, and we lead the nation in child poverty. We see families
who are bringing home less while everything costs more.
It’s a simple question to the Premier
because I’m not sure day after day he actually understands the struggle that
most people are going through in this province — 57 per cent. Does he accept
that Saskatchewan people are facing a cost-of-living crisis?
The Chair: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — Mr. Chair, I’m going to take the
opportunity to read in a number of . . . I often talk of the
$2 billion in affordability measures that have been introduced during the
time that we’ve had the honour to form government and are secured with the
budget that was released and we’re going to vote on very shortly. Because you
don’t always have time in question period to read these in, but I think in
estimates it’s necessary for us to read these in because largely these are
different than what Saskatchewan people were experiencing when there was an NDP
government here.
So
of the $2 billion of affordability measures . . . I’m not going
to read them all, but I’m going to read the ones, a number of them. We have the
lowest personal income tax and it is indexed. Just the index for 2024 is going
to save Saskatchewan residents more than $70 million in annual income tax
savings. That’s significant — $70 million. That’s on top of the 800‑plus
million dollars that I mentioned earlier in the initiative that had removed
112,000 people from the tax rolls altogether.
We
have in this province the second-lowest utility bundle in the nation of Canada.
Now I’ll get to some supportive quotes of that in just a moment. Mr. Chair, we
have a reduced education property tax, far reduced than when the NDP was in
power, and we see that actually in reverse now in the province of Manitoba with
the funding decisions that the provincial government is making, the NDP is
making, as well as the decisions that the individual school divisions are
having to make in increasing the education property tax there.
Active
families benefit, introduced by this government, preserved in this budget.
Children’s drug plan, introduced by this government, preserved by this budget.
We have the SSI [secondary suite incentive] grant program; the PST rebate on
new home construction, over $46,000. We have $10 child care. For those that say
we never work with the federal government, we worked with them. We were the
third province to sign the child care program to ensure that those dollars
could flow through to Saskatchewan families, often young families. We have a
number of expanded supports in the insulin pump program for type 1, those
living with type 1 diabetes.
When
it comes to students in this province, we have the lowest personal income tax.
Again it’s indexed. That impacts students who are often low-income in this
province. We have the second-lowest utility bundle in Canada, again I say
because of the impact that has for our youth, our students that are attending
post-secondary schools. We have the Saskatchewan Advantage Scholarship. We have
the grad retention program, again introduced by this government, as admittedly
a number of times has been said that the opposition would remove that program.
They would steal that $20,000 tax credit from our province’s youth, that tax
credit that close to 100,000 students have utilized so that they can stay and
start their career and raise their family in a Saskatchewan community. Like we
saw today, Mr. Chair, that is the NDP Party in this province. It just simply
isn’t on the people of Saskatchewan’s side.
We
have grants for low-income students, Mr. Chair. When it comes to seniors, we
have again reduced the education property tax — large impact on seniors. The
seniors’ income plan has been quadrupled from what it was, and did not see an
increase under the members opposite. We have the personal care home benefit. We
have the seniors’ drug plan. There’s ambulance subsidies. There’s home care
services that have been expanded, Mr. Chair. And when it comes to the most
vulnerable that are living in our communities, Mr. Chair, we have disability
tax credits, we have caregiver tax credits, we have aids for independent
living, increases to SAID [Saskatchewan assured income for disability],
increases to SIS [Saskatchewan income support], Mr. Chair.
We
continue to invest in the people across the province of Saskatchewan in
affordability measures. And we know they are facing affordability challenges,
Mr. Chair. I wouldn’t say it’s an affordability crisis, but I would say there
are significant challenges that Saskatchewan families and Canadian families are
facing, largely due to the decisions that are being made in Ottawa by a
minority Justin Trudeau-Jagmeet Singh minority administration — supported, Mr.
Speaker, all of those decisions, including the budget that’s going to be voted
on nationally, is supported by the NDP.
[17:30]
Now,
Mr. Chair, when it comes to supportive quotes of the cost of living
. . . And I said in an earlier answer that Regina has been, at many
income categories, is regarded as the most affordable place in the nation of
Canada to live. Part of that is due to the utility bundle, the affordable
utility bundle that we have. Part of that is due to the level at which you
start, the income threshold at which you start paying taxes. Here’s the Leader
of the Opposition in September 13th of 2022:
I think we have one hell of a story to tell in this
province about the quality of life, about the opportunity that’s here. We need
to be telling that story. And in an affordability crisis we have some of the
best rates as a province, the most affordable housing in the country.
Appreciate
the compliment of good governance in this province, Mr. Speaker.
Member
for Meewasin in November of 2023: “SaskTel, SaskPower, SaskEnergy, each of them
ensuring folks in Saskatchewan have access to some of the most affordable rates
in the country.”
I
agree, Mr. Chair. The new member, Mr. Chair, from Regina Coronation Park:
We
agree, partially because of the cost of living, partially because of the
opportunity. And the member for Regina University, Mr. Chair, on her Twitter:
“Taxes aren’t leading to income security, so instead of giving me an $850 tax
cut I’d rather contribute another $850.” That’s not the view of most
Saskatchewan residents, Mr. Chair. That is certainly not the view of most
Saskatchewan residents.
So
the question comes, Mr. Chair, as to, we know what the record of the NDP is.
It’s skyrocketing education property rates. It’s lack of investment in the
services that Saskatchewan people want. We know what the NDP would do when it
comes to affordability because we see what they’re doing in supporting the
federal administration with the largest inflationary pressure that Canadians
are facing, Mr. Speaker. And in addition to a number of policy decisions, we
have the infamous, every year annually increasing carbon tax, a tax that their
party supports, Mr. Speaker, a government that is bringing that tax in.
Their
party supports a government that promised that that tax would never go above
$50 a tonne, Mr. Speaker. Their party is supporting a government that promised,
Mr. Speaker, that that tax would not be expanded beyond $50 a tonne. Just this
year that same party is going to vote for the federal budget. In a few days,
Mr. Chair, they’re going to vote for a federal budget that takes that tax from
$65 to $80 a tonne. Mr. Chair, this is the record of the NDP Party. They
continue to prop up a Justin Trudeau government, Mr. Speaker, enacting policy
after policy that is reducing affordability for Canadians, reducing
opportunities for Canadians.
And
in spite of those pressures of the NDP and the federal Liberals, what we are
seeing in this province, Mr. Speaker, with a government that is focused on
growing our economy so that we can make investments in our health care system,
in our classrooms, Mr. Speaker, and in our communities, we are seeing
opportunities for Saskatchewan residents unlike anything we have seen before,
Mr. Speaker. And we are seeing affordability opportunities for people to move
here from other areas of Canada, not only because they can afford to buy a home
and raise their family but because they have the opportunity to have a great
career.
The Chair: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Ms. Beck: — Mr. Chair, so many words up one
side, down another. He knows that we don’t support the carbon tax, but I
welcome the opportunity to say that again. But I will remind him that the
question was whether or not he believes the people of Saskatchewan who tell us
that they are facing an affordability crisis. It appears that he does not
believe the people of Saskatchewan.
You
know what? I do. I’ve heard from them time and time again how much people are
struggling to put food on the table, to get their kids in activities, and to
just pay their bills. Now I also believe that they need some relief, and some
immediate relief. There are things that the federal government absolutely is
doing to make life more expensive, and there is a lot that that Premier has done
to make their lives more expensive. They need some relief.
So
tomorrow we’re going to vote in this Assembly on a motion, and I’ll quote the
motion in case they haven’t read it:
That the Assembly calls upon the government to suspend the
collection of the provincial fuel tax from gasoline and diesel for a period of
six months in order to help families struggling with the high cost of living.
Now this is a common-sense measure that
we’ve seen implemented in provinces of both sides. I don’t put political affiliation
on all of the provinces, Mr. Chair. But the question is, how is the Premier
going to vote? Something that would save people in this province 15 cents a
litre immediately. Will he finally get behind this common-sense fuel tax relief
for the people of Saskatchewan?
The Chair: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — I’ll be a little bit shorter on this
answer. I won’t be quite 11 words, but I’ll be a little bit shorter, Mr. Chair.
A
number of quotes here. I’m just going to summarize these quotes. In ’06 the
Hon. Graham Addley wanted to introduce legislation to dedicate every dollar of
fuel tax from motorists towards maintaining and building Saskatchewan’s roads.
Andrew Thomson in 2006, something very similar. Peter Prebble in 2006,
something very similar. Buckley Belanger in 2006: “We want to legislate passing
every dollar collected for fuel tax towards the maintenance and building of
Saskatchewan roads.” And so my question to the Leader of the Opposition, or
maybe more so the Saskatchewan people’s question, is going to be, how will you
build those roads, Mr. Chair?
Their
record isn’t good in this space, where they collected more fuel tax than they
invested in highways. Thankfully today not only do all of the dollars collected
go into upgrading our highways to make them safe for the goods that are
transporting down those roads, but also to make them safe because the other
very valuable . . . People that are going down those roads are our
families, Mr. Chair. And you’ve seen unprecedented investment in twinning
highways, in passing lanes, in turning lanes, Mr. Speaker, to ensure that our
families that are driving up and down those roads are safe, alongside the many
commodities that we are exporting from this province.
With
respect to the budget that is going to be voted on very shortly, what we are
going to vote on is a budget that affords over $2 billion in affordability
measures for Saskatchewan people; a budget that invests over 9 per cent in the
operational transfer to our school divisions and our classrooms; a budget that
has over 10 per cent unprecedented, largest investment in health care that this
province has seen; a budget that is increasing our municipal revenue sharing,
again a program not seen in Canada or under the NDP in this province, an
increase of 14 per cent to our municipalities, Mr. Speaker; a budget that is
providing carbon tax protection to the people of Saskatchewan, shielding
Saskatchewan people from that Liberal-NDP coalition in Ottawa. And we’re still
building highways in this province in this budget, Mr. Chair.
What
I would ask the member opposite . . . And this gets back to, you
know, really what a government’s primary function is, and it’s to represent the
people of Saskatchewan. And you know, I look back at various premiers in this
province. And you know, let’s single out some of the New Democrat premiers over
the years. We have Premier Calvert, Premier Romanow, Premier Blakeney. Mr.
Chair, I may not have agreed with all of the policy or the policy perspective
that those leaders put forward on behalf of Saskatchewan people, but I can
always believe that they had the best interests of Saskatchewan people at their
heart, at the hearts of that policy development. I truly believe that premiers
Romanow, premiers Calvert, and Premier Blakeney, they felt they were doing what
is in the best interests of Saskatchewan people.
Given
today with the commitments made around the carbon tax never going above $50,
now today we see it going 65 to $80. Given today what we see happening with the
measures that are creating inflationary pressures on Saskatchewan and Canadian
residents — the measures that are singling out the industries that are creating
wealth and employing people in Saskatchewan — the last thing I think a leader
or any party that is vying to form government in this province should do,
should be going out and attending a Trudeau campaign school on how you are
going to re-elect that very government that is causing harm to Saskatchewan
people and other Canadians.
And
so I ask the Leader of the Opposition, I ask the Leader of the Opposition, as
we know she attended along with some caucus members that very Trudeau campaign
school, how could you do that to Saskatchewan people?
The
Chair:
— I recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Ms. Beck: — Well again there’s a bit from that
Premier, Mr. Chair. But on this, on this specific smear that we’re hearing
right now, the Premier knows so very well that this was not a campaign school.
In fact, Mr. Chair, he had to photoshop together three different photos just to
make it look like we might have been in the same room at the same time. Now I
believe that his predecessor, I believe that his predecessor was called out for
splicing together things that didn’t actually happen. Mr. Chair, it is clear he
is no Brad Wall.
And
now you know what? I’ll talk about this too. In terms of talking about federal
leaders, I’m happy to talk about this and clear the air. As I have said from
day one, if I’m given the privilege to be premier of this province, I’ve no
problem telling Justin Trudeau or Jagmeet Singh or any federal leader when
they’re offside, like they are with the carbon tax. And I also have not an
ounce of problem telling Pierre Poilievre when he’s dead wrong about scrapping
child care or support for diabetes and contraception. And I’ll tell you what,
Mr. Chair. I’ll tell you what. I never ever would have rolled over for Stephen
Harper like these guys did, like these guys did over there, when it came to
getting a fair deal on equalization. So there you have it. I’ll clip it for you
and send it to you.
Now
the question was about how this Premier was going to vote on our motion to
provide people in this province with 15‑cents-a-litre break on their fuel
and their diesel, something they desperately need right now. But this is a
government that doesn’t like that idea. I think I heard him say no. But they’ve
failed to deliver any cost-of-living measures in this budget. Nothing at all
for families, but they had so many ways that they could have helped.
Why
did the Premier, if he doesn’t like this idea, why did he fail to provide any
new measures to provide relief to people in this province who — again I’ll
remind him — 57 per cent of them are struggling just to put food on the table?
The Chair: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — So, Mr. Speaker, as I’ve mentioned
numerous times in question period on the floor of this Assembly, Mr. Speaker,
this budget that we are about to vote on continues to have over $2 billion
in affordability measures, many of which I listed out in a previous answer,
many of which are not available in virtually any other province across the
nation, Mr. Speaker.
And
when it comes to the greatest affordability measure that the people of
Saskatchewan and, I would say, across Canada could ever experience, it would be
the un-election of the current administration. Mr. Speaker, the carbon tax,
which is larger than any gas tax charged across the nation, specifically in
this province, Mr. Speaker, is not lowering emissions in any markable way, Mr.
Speaker. It is only costing Saskatchewan and Canadian families money.
That
has been shown, Mr. Chair, when you see the CPI [consumer price index] rate in
the province of Saskatchewan at 1.5 per cent. You see the CPI rate across the
nation of Canada at 2.9 per cent.
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The
reason that was given as to why the CPI was lower in Saskatchewan was because
this government shielded Saskatchewan residents from that harmful carbon tax on
how we heat our homes, Mr. Speaker. We shielded them with an Act on the floor
of this Assembly. Credit, all members had voted for that Act, Mr. Chair. That
has dropped the CPI in the province to half of the national rate or roughly
half of the national rate.
Can
you imagine, can you imagine if we were to remove the consumer carbon tax on
all of the gasoline, the groceries, all of the associated costs across our
economy, what the CPI would be not only in Saskatchewan but across Canada? This
is a flawed policy. It’s a flawed policy that’s supported by the NDP
nationally, Mr. Speaker.
And
I would say to the Leader of the Opposition, is if you are so sure of what you
are saying and addressing Justin Trudeau, Saskatchewan people might not be
questioning that. They’re questioning where you’re saying it from. Are you
saying it from a Trudeau campaign school where you’re sitting in the same chair
that he sat in?
Mr.
Speaker, that is the challenge that we have in this province, Mr. Speaker, is
we have an NDP Party nationally and provincially that continues to prop up a
very harmful federal government in this province, Mr. Speaker. And I would say
again, how could you do this to Saskatchewan people? How could you not be on
the side of Saskatchewan people by ensuring that we are advocating for a better
opportunity for tomorrow?
Mr.
Speaker, and if you don’t believe me, if the Leader of the Opposition does not
believe me, maybe she’ll believe some of her MLAs. Because I want to read into
the record a number of quotes that have been made by colleagues on that side of
the House, Mr. Speaker, over the course of the last while.
First
we have the MLA for Regina University, who called the Saskatchewan economy a
“dumpster fire.” They called our oil industry a bleeping nightmare. That was
the member from Regina Elphinstone-Centre, the one that likes to drive by and
smear a number of hard-working Saskatchewan residents that are volunteering to
make their community, their province, and their nation better.
There’s
nothing to be proud of here, the member from Saskatoon Nutana had to say. It’s
pretty dang demoralizing to live and work in Saskatchewan, says one of their
candidates from P.A. [Prince Albert] Carlton. Thankfully we have an MLA from
P.A. Carlton that thinks quite differently.
Again
the member from Regina Elphinstone-Centre says, “Cut it out with all that
‘strong Saskatchewan’ nonsense.” Mr. Speaker, again this is a party that just
simply does not believe in Saskatchewan people. This is a party and a leader
that are not on the side of Saskatchewan people.
Mr.
Speaker, again the Regina University MLA even questioned if it is ethical and
right for us to raise children in this province. Let me repeat that: questioned
whether it’s ethical or right to raise children in this province. I think many
Saskatchewan parents would beg to differ with the opportunities that they have,
the choices that they have on where to send their children to school, Mr.
Speaker, and how they raise . . . Mr. Speaker, the MLA for Saskatoon
Centre said that companies in Saskatchewan are raping mother earth.
Mr.
Speaker, I could go on and on and I’ll find an opportunity to do that. What we
have today thankfully with a change at 2007, a change in government, is a
government that does believe in Saskatchewan people, a government that believes
in strengthening and growing the economy of Saskatchewan so that we can make
those investments in our classrooms, in our health care, and in our
communities, Mr. Speaker.
I
stand by the budget that was introduced by our Minister of Finance, the Deputy
Premier. I’m going to support that budget, Mr. Speaker, in just a few minutes,
and I’m going to very much look forward to the outcome.
The Chair: — One more short question.
Ms. Beck: — Mr. Chair, I will always be on the
side of Saskatchewan — so much so that we’re going to fight and continue to
fight and bring the concerns of Saskatchewan people to the floor of this
legislature. And we are going to give the people of this province a real
opportunity for change in the next election, because I know that the people of
this province deserve so very much more than what they are getting right now.
And
let’s take one last question, Mr. Chair, and it’s this. This is this Premier’s
record. Last year in this province we set a record for overdose deaths — 467
families in our province lost a loved one. Mr. Chair, that’s nine people lost a
week, more than one person lost every single day. These are children. They’re
parents. They’re aunties and they’re uncles. And every single loss changes a
family in our province forever.
This
is a premier who’s not investing in evidence-based choices to address this
growing crisis.
This
is not a place for partisan spin and wedge. This is about lives in our
province. In fact, he’s cut supports that keep people alive. Treatment is
absolutely critical, but you cannot check into a treatment centre if you’ve
died from an overdose — again something that almost 500 families in this
province are struggling with.
When
will this Premier bring forward an evidence-based plan that will keep people in
our province alive?
The Chair: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Mr. Moe: — Mr. Speaker, I agree with the Leader
of the Opposition — it’s not a partisan issue. Mr. Speaker, the poison and
drugs that we are seeing in our communities and on our streets, not just in
Saskatchewan but across Canada, has I think caused everyone pause to have a
very different conversation about how we are going to support people in our
community, and all too often our family members, when it comes to not only
addictions, Mr. Chair, but also, you know, mental health challenges that we’re
seeing in maybe a post-pandemic world, mental health challenges that we’re
seeing in our youth in a world where everyone is connected to social media and
drugs that are available that are much more highly addictive than anything that
we have seen in the past.
Mr.
Chair, this is a different environment for us as a society, a different
environment for us across the nation of Canada, one that we talk about at the
Council of Federation table when the 13 premiers gather. When the Health
ministers gather I know they have those discussions. And it’s one of the
reasons why a number of years ago we had specifically appointed a Minister of
Mental Health and Addictions, is to work on supporting our community members
and our families in this space.
And
I would say that there’s really two ways that we’re looking at this in
Saskatchewan, and one of those ways . . . None of those ways are ways
that maybe we see a province like British Columbia looking at it in the
decriminalization of drugs. We have a different belief. We have a focus first
of all on supporting those that may need mental health supports or may have
entered a life unfortunately of addictions and are looking to make a change.
We
are drastically increasing the number of addictions, intensive addictions
recovery beds that we have. Mr. Speaker, we’re introducing a ROSC system, which
is a recovery-oriented system of care system in the province. It’s focused on
recovery. And the first step of that is ensuring that we have an ample supply
of intensive addictions recovery beds. Our target of 150, we achieved that very
shortly. We today have a target of 500 intensive recovery beds. Mr. Chair,
those include a number of detox beds in the province. And working with
communities across the province — and we can provide or table a list of those
if the opposition so chooses — this is the first step.
The
second step, I would say, is we need to have access into the system. We know
all too well in this city in particular, Mr. Chair, that our emergency rooms are
not the place for individuals in our community and in our family to present if
they are having a mental health crisis or unfortunately, as I say, have entered
a life of addictions. That’s what you see being built on north Albert Street in
Regina is an access point. And a part of that urgent care centre is going to be
focused on providing that mental health and addictions access for people that
want to make a change or are experiencing a mental health crisis.
Mr.
Chair, one side will be urgent care, focused on volume of people through. The
other side is quite the opposite and is going to be focused on taking that
individual by the hand and providing them with the medical professional that
they may need at that point in time. You’ll hear the Minister of Mental Health
and Addictions talk about meeting people where they are, but we can’t leave
them there.
That’s
what that urgent care centre is about on north Albert. That’s what the
partnership with Ahtahkakoop Cree Nation in Saskatoon is about when we get that
system up and running, Mr. Chair. And I dare say we’ll be looking at expanding
that system of care across the province, Mr. Speaker. So recovery-oriented
system of care. We’re supporting those in our community and those in our family
all too often if they are having a mental health crisis or have unfortunately
entered a life of addictions.
The
second stream of effort that this government is focusing on, Mr. Chair, is one
of enforcement. We need to remove the drugs from our community, and we need to
also remove the drug dealers from our community, Mr. Chair. That is why you are
seeing an unprecedented investment in our municipal police services, in our
RCMP [Royal Canadian Mounted Police] services, and yes, in our Saskatchewan
marshals service to support the aforementioned two police services, Mr. Chair.
They’re going to support them by presence, and they’re going to support them
with the work that they do to ensure that those people that are dealing this
poison in our community are going to suffer the full consequences of the law.
And
last but not least we are going to need, out of this federal administration or
the next, changes to the Criminal Code of Canada to ensure that we can continue
to keep our communities safe in this province, Mr. Chair. And we’re in constant
contact. The Minister of Justice, our Attorney General is in constant contact
with her colleagues across the nation as well as our federal minister to ensure
that we are advocating on behalf of the necessary changes that need to be made
and when they need to be made.
And
so, Mr. Speaker, what you see here is a government that is focused on a
recovery-oriented system of care. What you see here is a government that is
focused on ensuring that our communities are kept safe and doing what we can to
remove this poison from the streets of our communities. And you are seeing a
government here that is willing to work with the federal government to make the
necessary changes to the Criminal Code of Canada so that our communities can
remain safe into the future.
None
of this is possible, none of this is possible if you don’t have a government
that is first focused on the growth and the strength of our provincial economy.
It’s those funds from the growth and strength of our provincial economy — that
is really the people of Saskatchewan and what they do each and every day — that
we are able to make the investments in this space, make those investments in
recovery-oriented system of care.
The
people that are going to work in that urgent care centre on north Albert
Street, the investment that is made in the actual building of that facility on
north Albert Street, the people that are working in uniform to keep our
communities safe — none of that is possible without a growing and strong
economy, one that we have had for a number of years here in Saskatchewan. And
come this fall, we’ll be asking the people of Saskatchewan to continue with the
government that they have so that we can continue making the investments on
their behalf.
The
Chair:
— Having reached our allotted time, I would ask the officials to now leave as
we will be voting on the estimates.
Is
subvote (EX01), central management and services in the amount of $6,098,000,
agreed to?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
The Chair: — Carried. Is subvote (EX03),
communications office in the amount of $1,094,000, agreed to?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
The Chair: — Carried. Is subvote (EX04), cabinet
planning in the amount of $765,000, agreed to?
[18:00]
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
The Chair: — Carried. Is subvote (EX05), cabinet
secretariat in the amount of $512,000, agreed to?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
The Chair: — Carried. Subvote (EX06), members of
the Executive Council in the amount of $152,000. This is a statutory amount. No
vote is required.
Is
subvote (EX07), Premier’s office in the amount of $492,000, agreed to?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
The Chair: — Carried. Is subvote (EX08), House
business and research in the amount of $248,000, agreed to?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
The Chair: — Carried. Is subvote (EX10),
Intergovernmental Affairs in the amount of $2,810,000, agreed to?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
The Chair: — Carried. Is subvote (EX12),
Lieutenant Governor’s office in the amount of 725,000, agreed to?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
The Chair: — Carried.
Resolved that there be granted to His Majesty for the 12
months ending March 31st, 2025, the following sums for Executive Council:
$12,744,000.
Is
that agreed to?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
The Chair: — Carried. Okay, there being no
further business before the committee, I’d invite a member to move that the
committee rise, report progress, and ask for leave to sit again. I recognize
the Government House Leader.
Hon. Mr. J. Harrison: — Mr. Chair, I move that the committee
rise, report progress, and ask for leave to sit again.
The Chair: — It has been moved by the Government
House Leader the committee rise, report progress, and ask for leave to sit
again. Is that agreed?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
The Chair: — Carried.
[The
Speaker resumed the Chair.]
The Speaker: — I recognize the Chair of Committees.
Mr. Bradshaw: — Mr. Speaker, I’m instructed by the
committee to report progress and ask for leave to sit again.
The Speaker: — When shall the committee sit again?
I recognize the Government House Leader.
Hon. Mr. J. Harrison: — Next sitting.
The Speaker: — Next sitting. It now being past the
ordinary time of adjournment, this House stands adjourned until tomorrow at 10
a.m.
[The
Assembly adjourned at 18:05.]
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