CONTENTS
Saskatchewan
Association of Rural Municipalities Convention Promotes Local Solutions
Saskatoon Small
Business Offers Italian Experience
Saskatchewan Sees
Positive Economic Indicators
Funding Needed for Arts
and Culture Organizations
An Evening in Greece
Marks 30 Years
Bilateral Funding
Agreements to Support Health Care Initiatives
Opposition Position on
Education Property Taxes
Gas Prices and Federal
Carbon Tax
Government’s Fiscal
Management
Contract Negotiations
with Teachers
Transparency and Health
Care Staffing
Freedom of Information
Requests
Overdose Deaths and
Treatment for Addictions
FOURTH
SESSION — TWENTY-NINTH LEGISLATURE
of
the
Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan
DEBATES
AND PROCEEDINGS
(HANSARD)
N.S. Vol. 65 No. 34A Monday, March
18, 2024, 13:30
[Prayers]
The
Speaker: — On Thursday, March 14th, 2024, the
Deputy Opposition House Leader rose on a point of order alleging that the
member for Lloydminster said in her member’s statement, “it’s no wonder no one
trusts the NDP.” I committed to reviewing the record and in doing so found many
instances of unparliamentary language by members on both sides of the House.
In fact in recent weeks, there have been
several instances of members on both sides calling into question other members’
integrity and trustworthiness, contributing to an overall decline in decorum.
Members are well aware that it is unparliamentary to impugn the honesty and
integrity of other members. Accordingly I would caution that member and all
members to be mindful of the words they use in this Chamber, particularly in
reference to one another.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Minister of Parks,
Culture and Sport.
Hon.
Ms. L. Ross: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker,
I request leave for an extended introduction.
The
Speaker: — Leave has been requested for an
extended introduction. Is leave granted?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
The
Speaker: — Carried.
Hon.
Ms. L. Ross: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and
through you, it is my pleasure to welcome 33 members of Saskatchewan’s Greek
community seated in the Speaker’s gallery here today. Our government is proud
to acknowledge the contribution of Saskatchewan’s Greek community and the
legacy of ancient Greece by recognizing March as Hellenic Heritage Month and
March 25th as Greek Independence Day in Saskatchewan.
I’d like to recognize a few members who
were instrumental in organizing this proclamation, including Spiro Bonis,
president of the Regina chapter of the American Hellenic Educational
Progressive Association, and the chairperson of An Evening in Greece 2024. And
I have to say, Mr. Speaker, it was a sellout crowd on Saturday evening and was
well received by everyone here in Regina.
Included today we have Tom Liagridonis,
president of St. Paul’s Greek Orthodox Community. We also have Sophia Kolitsas,
president of the Regina chapter of the Daughters of Penelope, Thomas Siarkos,
co-founder of Evening in Greece, and Co-Chair of the 2024 dinner.
We also have, Mr. Speaker
. . . Since the turn of the 20th century, Saskatchewan’s Greek
community has made invaluable contributions to our province, our culture,
economic and social prosperity. The Greek community also promotes the
principles of democracy and freedom that we proudly practise here today.
Mr. Speaker, I invite all members to
join me in welcoming these special guests to their Legislative Assembly today.
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Rosemont.
Mr.
Wotherspoon: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s a pleasure
to join with the minister to welcome these leaders in Saskatchewan to their
Assembly, leaders in the Greek Canadian community, leaders that have been
leading for many, many years in this province, contributing to all facets of
this province, making their province and this country, their country a better
place, Mr. Speaker. That was on full display on the beautiful Evening in Greece
this past Saturday, just a beautiful evening of kindness and celebration and
culture, Mr. Speaker. Wonderful dance, wonderful food, and so much giving, so
much giving back to this community, Mr. Speaker.
I want to identify Dino and his team at
the Regina hospitals foundation for their leadership as well, and of course
that’s where all the dollars were donated. This is a remarkable community and
these are remarkable citizens that have joined us here in their Assembly here
today.
It’s wonderful to celebrate the Greek
independence and the proclamation on this front as well as Hellenic Heritage
Month, Mr. Speaker. This is something important to all of our province because
of your efforts strengthening this beautiful province.
I want to give a special shout-out with
respect to An Evening in Greece to all of the members of that committee,
specifically to Spiro Bonis as the Chair and the Co-Chair, Thomas Siarkos, who
has joined us here today as well. And just to again on behalf of the official
opposition, on behalf of a grateful province, thank you for your many
contributions to this province.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon.
Mr. Moe: — Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. To
you and through you, I also want to join with the member opposite and the
Minister of Parks, Culture and Sport in welcoming all of those members from the
Greek community, all those members that worked so very hard on the Evening in
Greece event.
But I would say more broadly worked so
very hard on fundraising for the community in which they live and fundraising
for the province, really the people of this province that are going to be the
beneficiary from the 30 years now of Evening in Greece occurring in the city of
Regina, Mr. Speaker, and 30 years that these individuals from our Greek
community in Saskatchewan have been giving back to their community.
Our provincial motto, Mr. Speaker, is
“from many peoples, strength.” Most certainly that is true when it comes to
those that have blessed Saskatchewan from the country of Greece.
So welcome. Through you and to you to
all members of this Assembly, Mr. Speaker, I want to take the opportunity to
welcome each of you, to thank you for giving back to your community, Mr.
Speaker, and I hope you enjoy your time in your legislature.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Walsh Acres.
Mr. Clarke:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to join in with the Premier and other members
of the Assembly to welcome this delegation to the Assembly today. My colleague
from Regina Rosemont and I had the opportunity to attend An Evening in Greece
on Saturday night, and I was able to have wonderful conversations with many of
you. Thank you so much for the work that you do in our communities. It really
means a lot to a lot of people.
I do want to take a moment to single out
two folks who are family friends, of course, Tom and Effie Liagridonis. I had a
wonderful pleasure of chatting with you guys the other night at the event.
Effie and Tom, of course, have two lovely children who are studying at the U of
R [University of Regina].
But I do want to just make note of Tom
and his long-standing commitment to this city and to this community as a
long-standing CPA [chartered professional accountant], a long-time leader in
financial services for a number of different organizations in Regina, clearly
an influential member of the Greek community, and of course a passionate
volunteer on so many fronts, as was demonstrated this weekend at the event.
So just wanted to say thank you for all
that you guys do, and I ask all members of the Assembly to welcome Tom and
Effie and everyone else to their Assembly. Thank you.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Minister of
Environment.
Hon.
Ms. Tell: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would
indeed be remiss if I did not introduce and mention the work done by one Voula
Danakas. She’s sitting up in your gallery, Mr. Speaker.
She has been a tireless advocate for
those with varying abilities throughout the province, and in fact she was
probably one of the pioneers. Her husband, who has since passed away, started
the Regina Inn, and they have been a feature within the city of Regina for many,
many years. So I must say welcome to Voula Danakas and ask all members to join
me in welcoming her as well. Thank you.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon Eastview.
Mr.
Love: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and
through you, I’d like to welcome a fairly large delegation of students from
here in Regina. These students have come here today from schools around the
Regina area: Campbell, Riffel, Laval, LeBoldus, Regina Christian, and Winston
Knoll. I hope I got them all.
I want to thank these students for being
here. And of course they’re brought here today for lots of reasons and lots of
concerns, but they’re here, I understand, to show support for their teachers
and to ask that this government reconsider the path that they’re taking. They’re
especially concerned about a number of the things that are currently at risk of
being impacted through this ongoing, three-month-old negotiation with teachers.
They’re concerned about things like
upcoming trips, athletics. Many of these students are student athletes. They’re
concerned about Hoopla. And, Mr. Speaker, I want to let them know that as
someone who’s spent 10 years in the classroom — I coached junior basketball,
track and field, spent 17 years coaching high school football in this province
— I understand their concerns and how important these ventures are to young
people, especially those here today who have already had their school
experience impacted throughout years of pandemic learning when many of these
activities were not available to them.
I want to thank these young individuals
for being here to witness democracy, for coming here to their Assembly to see democracy in action, and I
want to encourage them that their voice matters. Their voice matters because
this dispute is one phone call away from having those sanctions end — one phone
call away from sanctions coming to an end.
I ask all
members of the Assembly to join me in welcoming these high school students and
athletes to their Assembly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from Estevan.
Hon. Ms. Carr: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, to you and
through you, it is my honour today to welcome Monique Goffinet Miller back to
her Legislative Assembly today. Monique is a tireless advocate for the Queen
City and the city of Regina, its proper, and our province of Saskatchewan.
Monique has not lived in Saskatchewan for a long time but she is most certainly
leaving Saskatchewan better than she found it. Her and her husband, Dean, will
be moving to Ottawa in the near future and they will be dearly missed. So
please join me in welcoming Monique to her Legislative Assembly.
The Speaker: — I recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Ms. Beck: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to join
with the minister opposite in welcoming Monique Goffinet Miller to her
Legislative Assembly. Mr. Speaker, I had opportunity — I believe the week that
she moved to the Queen City — to introduce her here in her Legislative
Assembly. I am sad to say that she is moving on, but will concur with the
minister opposite in saying that she’s the kind of person who, when she moves
to a new place which she has had
opportunity to do on a number of occasions, she doesn’t sit back and wait for
things to come to her. She gets involved and makes things happen, Mr. Speaker.
And that is exactly the kind of folks
that we want to celebrate in our communities, much as the members from the
Greek community who have joined us here today again and the students who are
here as well today, Mr. Speaker. I want to welcome Monique to her Legislative
Assembly. Hope we see you again here in some capacity.
But also want to encourage and celebrate
all those in our province who get involved in their communities, who speak out,
and who work to make things better. We need to encourage that time and again,
Mr. Speaker. I invite all members to join me in welcoming them to their
Legislative Assembly.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Minister of
Education.
Hon.
Mr. Cockrill: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to
join with the member opposite and welcome the young athletes and coaches that
are here today. There’s one face in particular I recognize, a young man Zenon
Orobko, who, when I coached at North Battleford Comprehensive, Zenon was
playing his high school basketball at Unity. And if I remember correctly I
think he terrorized my team a few times and had some pretty big games against
the Vikings. So it’s great to see him involved, coaching here in Regina.
I just want to thank all the athletes
for coming here to the legislature today. High school basketball and really
high school athletics are such an important part of the high school experience,
whether it’s basketball or football or track and field, and so I appreciate
these young athletes and coaches coming to our Assembly today. And I’d ask all
members to welcome them to their legislature.
[13:45]
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Elphinstone-Centre.
Ms. Conway:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just want to rise to my feet and give a brief shout-out
to a student that is here today that is very close to my heart. And I’m sort of
reluctant to do this because each one of these students is amazing in their own
right, I’m sure. But I know Rosie Magnan and I went out to — hi, Rosie — I went
out to greet the students earlier and recognized her shining smile.
She’s a gifted cellist, a baller
apparently at Laval, lives part of her life in English, the other part en
français [Translation: in French]. She’s the daughter of her proud parents,
André Magnan and Erin Knuttila. She’s just a wonderful kiddo, Mr. Speaker.
I had a chance to chat with the kids out
there. You know, this is the future of Saskatchewan, and it was eminently clear
to me that the future in this province is very bright.
The Speaker: — I recognize the Minister of Crown Investments
Corporation.
Hon. Mr. Duncan: — Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker,
residents of the province wish to bring to the legislature’s attention the
following: whereas the Trudeau Liberal-NDP [New Democratic Party] coalition
carbon tax is one of the main causes of affordability issues and inflation in
the nation of Canada; that the federal Liberal-NDP government was politically
motivated in issuing a carve-out for home heating oil; and that the Government
of Saskatchewan’s decision to not collect or remit the carbon tax on home
heating in Saskatchewan has led to a drop in inflation; further, that despite
the decision to not charge the carbon tax on home heating, Saskatchewan families
continue to pay that tax out of pocket at the pumps, grocery stores, and more.
Mr. Speaker, I
will read the prayer:
We, in the prayer that reads as follows, respectfully request that the
Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan take the following action: to call upon
the Government of Canada to immediately suspend the carbon tax across the
nation of Canada and to acknowledge its significant impact on affordability and
inflation in Canada.
The below
undersigned are residents of the city of Yorkton and the
surrounding area. I do so present.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon Meewasin.
Mr.
Teed: — Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I
rise today to present our petition calling on the government to address the
cost-of-living crisis. Mr. Speaker, the cost-of-living crisis is the number one
issue that we hear on the doorsteps. Mr. Speaker, the inflation in Saskatchewan
is the highest it has been in three decades and half of Saskatchewan residents
say they were living paycheque to paycheque before transportation and food
costs skyrocketed in 2022.
Mr. Speaker, families in Saskatchewan
cite the Sask Party’s 32 new tax and fee hikes that are making life more
expensive for them. All the while those tax hikes are also harming struggling
industries like tourism, culture, and fitness. Mr. Speaker, while other
provinces have acted, the Sask Party government has ignored our calls for a gas
price relief plan.
Mr. Speaker, I’ll read the prayer:
We, in the prayer
that reads as follows, respectfully request that the Legislative Assembly of
Saskatchewan call on the Government of Saskatchewan to meaningfully address the
affordability crisis in Saskatchewan.
Mr. Speaker, the undersigned residents
reside in Regina. I do so present.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Elphinstone-Centre.
Ms.
Conway: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’m again on
my feet to present a petition calling on this Sask Party government to open up
and make available the approximately 3,000 Sask Housing units that are
currently not being inhabited, Mr. Speaker.
Homelessness is on the rise across
communities across Saskatchewan. This Sask Party government has cut the
maintenance and renovation budget to these Sask Housing units nearly 40 per
cent over the last decade. They have not maintained them, Mr. Speaker, and this
is contributing to the rising homelessness rates that we see across this
province. Homelessness has tremendous costs, not just human costs, financial
costs. Every $10 invested towards housing and support of chronically homeless
individuals results in a savings of over double that. The recent numbers on
what this government is spending on hotels is an example of the expensive
approach of crisis management instead of prevention.
The prayer reads as follows:
We, in the
undersigned, call upon the Government of Saskatchewan to renovate Sask Housing
units that require renovation, make units available and affordable, and ensure
that all currently vacant Sask Housing units are occupied by October 2024.
The signatories reside in Regina. I do
so present.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Cannington.
Mr. D. Harrison:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Local solutions for common-sense leaders, Mr.
Speaker. That’s what we heard last week at the 2024 SARM [Saskatchewan
Association of Rural Municipalities] convention. My colleagues and I had some
great discussions with local councillors, reeves, mayors, and representatives
from every corner of the province. And while we heard from you about some hard
topics and had some frank conversations, our government knows that those are
some of the most important conversations you can have as leaders. And our government
is incredibly proud of the work being done by Saskatchewan’s RMs [rural
municipality].
Mr. Speaker, in his address to the
convention our Premier delivered great news for our rural municipalities: over
a billion dollars for further development of the Lake Diefenbaker irrigation
project to make sure our producers can keep doing what they do, what they do
best. And our government is incredibly proud to be committing over
$340 million towards revenue sharing. This represents a 167 per cent increase
to revenue sharing since our government formed in 2007. Mr. Speaker, your
Saskatchewan Party government is proud of the work and the results we’ve
achieved with our municipal partners since we had the honour of forming
government.
On behalf of the Government of
Saskatchewan, thank you to all the attendees for the conversations, ideas, and
questions. And thank you to the SARM for organizing another great event.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon Nutana.
Ms.
Ritchie: — I am so fortunate to have my office
on Broadway Avenue in the heart of my constituency surrounded by great local
businesses. One of the amazing businesses that opened in the last few years is
Beppi’s Gelato. Beppi’s was created by Paola Chiste. She named the shop after
her Italian grandfather.
Paola was bit by the entrepreneurial bug
after being encouraged to start the gelato shop by her husband after a career
interruption. She travelled to Bologna, Italy to study at a gelato university
where she learned the art of creating gelato. Paola’s gelato is made using
high-quality, fresh ingredients. Many are sourced locally, including berries
she grows and harvests herself, and some that come directly from Italy. She
likes to create unique flavours inspired by local ingredients.
Beppi’s contributes a unique Italian
experience to our community and has become a gathering place on warm summer
days. It’s also been a great place to grab some authentic Italian groceries or
an Italian coffee or a tea on a wintry day. It’s great to live in a community
where local businesses continue to thrive and contribute to the economic
diversity of our community and the entire city. Congratulations to Paola and
her entire staff.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Saskatoon Westview.
Mr.
Buckingham: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This morning
we received more great news about Saskatchewan’s growing economy. According to
StatsCan, investments in building construction numbers continue to see growth
in the province. Saskatchewan saw an increase of 18.4 per cent year over year
from January 2023 to January 2024, ranking third in the nation.
This is far above the national average
of negative 0.1 per cent. Additionally, we’re seeing more homes being built in
our province with month-over-month residential building permits up 2.9 per
cent. These positive numbers are the result of the incredible investment we’re
seeing in the province.
In 2023 our province had the
second-highest private capital investment growth in the country at over
14 billion, and is projected to be number one in the nation in 2024. This
investment is also leading to job creation. Last month alone the province added
18,700 new full-time jobs. This is all supported by our province’s labour
market strategy, and investment attraction strategy would serve as our
government’s road map to increasing investment and building our labour force
now and into the future.
During the NDP’s time in government,
people and businesses were fleeing our province in record numbers. Fortunately
that is no longer the case, Mr. Speaker, and our government will continue to
welcome . . .
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon Meewasin.
Mr.
Teed: — Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
Since being elected I have met with many arts organizations around the
province. While their passion continues to burn bright, arts and culture
organizations are raising the alarm and need our support. Performing arts
institutions have been specifically hard hit by the pandemic and the years that
have followed. Audiences have not returned, budget allocations to the Sask Arts
Board have not met cost of living for years, and arts institutions continue to
reel under the expansion of the PST [provincial sales tax] on entertainment,
tickets, memberships during the very time that they are supposed to be
recovering. All this has left the arts in Saskatchewan in crisis.
While we recognize that the government
has made efforts, such as the 200,000 investment in the Regina Symphony
Orchestra to ensure that they are not at risk of closure, Mr. Speaker, band-aid
solutions will continue to be that — band-aid solutions. Arts organizations
continue to call for even a portion of those PST dollars to be reinvested in
the arts, to bring stability back to their operational funding.
Mr. Speaker, I would ask all members to
join me in calling on the government to make the right decision come budget
time. It’s time to invest in our province’s arts and culture sector which gives
back so much to the people of Saskatchewan. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member for Regina
Pasqua.
Mr.
Fiaz: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On March
16th, along with many colleagues including our Premier, I had the pleasure of
attending the 30th annual Evening in Greece gala here in Regina. The Greek
community has greatly contributed to the culture and economic fabric of our
province through business, health, social, and charitable causes. And An
Evening in Greece is a great example, as this year’s proceeds were donated to
the Hospitals of Regina Foundation. Mr. Speaker, this event was a fabulous
display of culture featuring Hellenic dancing and food and legendary breaking
of the plates.
The Greek community in Saskatchewan have
contributed to the fabric of our communities since before our province’s
founding. Mr. Speaker, in the early days Greek people who settled here were
often from rural areas in Greece where employment was hard to find. These early
settlers brought with them a strong sense of pride and patriotism towards their
Hellenic identity, which has remained to this day.
I do like to thank this year’s festival
sponsors, organizers, and the many volunteers for their incredible hospitality
and great work in putting together this special event. Thirty years is a
tremendous achievement, and we thank the Greek community for continuing to
share Hellenic culture and supporting our community. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Lumsden-Morse.
Mr.
B. McLeod: — Mr. Speaker, today we were pleased
to showcase an event announcing that the governments of Saskatchewan and Canada
have signed two bilateral funding agreements providing Saskatchewan more than
560 million to invest in health care initiatives.
Through the Working Together agreement,
Saskatchewan will receive close to 391 million to support several priority
areas, including improved access to family health services and acute and urgent
care across the regions by supporting a physician payment model; Saskatoon’s
chronic pain clinic; HealthLine 811; and permanent acute care and complex care
beds in Regina and Saskatoon hospitals; and to support the health workforce and
help to reduce backlogs through recruitment, retention, and training
initiatives; expand the delivery of culturally appropriate mental health and
substance use support and specialized care through overdose outreach teams;
expanding addiction treatment spaces and rapid grief counselling by Family
Service Saskatchewan, among other initiatives; and by continuing investment
into modernizing health care systems with health data and digital tools.
In addition, through the Aging with
Dignity agreement our province will receive approximately 169.3 million to
enhance home and community care services, improve palliative care, and
strengthen the quality of long-term care and home care services. Our government
also commits to meaningful engagement with Indigenous partners to support
improved access to quality and culturally appropriate health care services.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Kindersley.
Mr.
Francis: — We’ve heard from the Leader of the
Opposition that trust is built when you say the same thing in every room. I’d
like to encourage the member to live by her own words, or at minimum tell her
caucus what words to use in those rooms.
Last week the member for Saskatoon
Fairview was asked about returning taxation power to school boards and said, I
quote, “. . . we haven’t said that. A hundred per cent
. . . [no].” However, Mr. Speaker, a couple of weeks ago on a local
radio station the Leader of the Opposition was asked specifically if she
supported reinstating school division power to tax at the local level and she
wholeheartedly agreed.
[14:00]
Mr. Speaker, do you know what the
changes we’ve made to education property taxes have meant to the people of
Saskatchewan? It means over $3 billion in savings to property owners
across the province. It means students in small towns receive the same
education as property-rich cities like Saskatoon and Regina.
Now we know what would happen if we
followed the NDP leader’s advice and we went back to the way things were. Just
look next door to NDP Manitoba. School divisions were once again given the
authority to tax at the local level and in just the first year they managed to
raise taxes up to 17 per cent.
That’s what would happen here if the
opposition had their way. The NDP rarely come up with any plans or ideas, but
when they do they’re bad for students, they’re bad for the economy, and they’re
really bad for the Saskatchewan taxpayer.
The
Speaker: — I
recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Ms.
Beck: — Mr. Speaker, now that storytime is
over, Saskatchewan people, Saskatchewan people today are struggling with
inflation and they’re struggling with the rising cost of living. Now what’s
driving that inflation, Mr. Speaker? Higher gas prices. From CTV [Canadian
Television Network Ltd.], and I quote, “Economists say that inflation likely
flared up again in February amid higher gasoline prices.”
Mr. Speaker, luckily there is a solve
for rising gas prices — lowering gas prices. Why won’t this tired and
out-of-touch government finally do just that and offer Saskatchewan people some
relief at the pumps?
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon.
Mr. Moe: — Without a doubt, Mr. Speaker,
identified by the parliamentary budget officer, one of the most significant
causes of inflation across Canada and in Saskatchewan has been the constant and
annual increase of the carbon tax on our gasoline, on our groceries, on
virtually everything that we consume, Mr. Speaker.
Point being said, the CPI [consumer
price index] dropped almost a full point here in Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker, again
identified, I believe, I think it was Statistics Canada this time said that the
almost-point drop in the CPI or the inflationary measure in Saskatchewan was
due to this government removing the carbon tax from home heating fuel, Mr.
Speaker.
Can you imagine the drop if we removed
the entire 17 cents off of a litre of fuel in the province, Mr. Speaker, the
unnecessary carbon tax imposed by the federal government supported by the NDP,
across this nation?
When it comes to inflationary issues,
inflationary challenges that Saskatchewan families are facing, I’ve stood on
the floor of this Assembly, the Deputy Premier has stood on the floor of this
Assembly and in the rotunda, Mr. Speaker, and spoke to the over two billion
dollars in inflationary measures, in affordability measures that are present in
each and every budget, taking 112,000 people off the provincial tax rolls,
allowing us to pay lower taxes, Mr. Speaker, as a whole than we ever did under
the New Democratic Party when they had the honour to govern this province, Mr.
Speaker.
And we’re going to continue to do more
in months into the future, Mr. Speaker. In fact you may even see some more
initiatives in just a couple of days when the provincial budget is delivered.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Ms.
Beck: — Mr. Speaker, why take the
opportunity to do what you can do today when you can point fingers and distract
and divide, Mr. Speaker. This is a Premier that is failing, failing today to deliver
on the cost of living, and he has completely failed, Mr. Speaker, when it comes
to our public finances.
Let’s look at that Premier’s record, Mr.
Speaker. When he took over from Brad Wall, Saskatchewan had $17.6 billion
in debt. At mid-year we had over 31 billion, Mr. Speaker. That’s nearly
double, and there’s more debt to come undoubtedly on Wednesday. How does the
Premier justify doubling Saskatchewan’s debt during his short time in office?
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon.
Mr. Moe: — Let’s look at Saskatchewan’s record,
Mr. Speaker. When compared with the rest of Canada when it comes to the capital
investments that are being made in this province, second in the nation today,
up 25 per cent. Projected to go up another 14 per cent this next year, Mr.
Speaker, which will put us first across the nation.
Let’s look at our record when it comes
to exports. Announced the other day, exports are up to the country of India.
Twenty billion dollars in ag exports, Mr. Speaker, achieving our growth plan
target, part of our $50 billion in exports, which is a record number from
the province of Saskatchewan, exporting $50 billion of product to over 150
countries around the world, Mr. Speaker.
Let’s look at the nearly 20,000 jobs
that were brought to light by the communities and businesses operating in those
communities right across the province just this past year.
Mr. Speaker, in a couple days we’re
going to see the provincial budget delivered by this Deputy Premier, Mr.
Speaker. You’re going to see what the strength of a strong . . . what
the strength of an economy can do when it comes to investments in our
classrooms, investments in care, and investments in our communities, Mr.
Speaker, most certainly providing for a brighter future for Saskatchewan residents.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Ms.
Beck: — The bluster as usual, Mr. Speaker,
but this Premier is on track to double Saskatchewan’s debt. That is his record.
He’s added $14 billion to the debt since he became Premier. Mr. Speaker,
they won’t want to hear that, but that is more than Grant Devine. Mr. Speaker,
we’ll remember Grant Devine as the Conservative premier who nearly bankrupt
this province. But this Premier, Mr. Speaker, this Premier is in a league of
his own.
How does the Premier feel about the fact
that he has added more debt to Saskatchewan people than Grant Devine?
The Speaker:
— I recognize the Premier.
Hon.
Mr. Moe: — Mr. Speaker, the measure that
provinces use and the federal government uses — Mr. Speaker, the federal
NDP-Liberal coalition government uses — is net debt-to-GDP [gross domestic
product].
And where we are in this province is
second-lowest in the nation when it comes to our net debt-to-GDP, Mr. Speaker.
This is what a strong and growing economy is able to bring the people of
Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker, is the second-lowest net debt-to-GDP in the nation
of Canada. All the while, Mr. Speaker — unlike a time in this province when
there was 176 schools closed, over 400 teachers laid off across the province —
we are building schools, Mr. Speaker. And I dare say you might see a few more
in just two days when the Deputy Premier rises to her feet, Mr. Speaker.
Unlike the members opposite that were
firing nurses, firing doctors, and closed 52 hospitals in this province, Mr.
Speaker, we are building hospitals, replacing hospitals — most notably, I would
say, the Saskatchewan Hospital in North Battleford and the Jim Pattison
Children’s Hospital in the city of Saskatoon, Mr. Speaker. We are providing, as
they would have learned just last week, Mr. Speaker, record funding to
municipalities, Mr. Speaker. And we are building highways, as opposed to
encouraging communities to go out in a community building project and fix their
own highways, Mr. Speaker, which is the way it was under the NDP.
Mr. Speaker, what you are going to see
through the strength of a growing economy in this province in two days is a
provincial budget delivered by this Deputy Premier which is going to show what
that can do in the way of investing in our classrooms, and what that can do in
the way of investing in care in this province, Mr. Speaker, and what that can
do in the way of investing in our Saskatchewan communities.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Ms.
Beck: — I’ll give him this, Mr. Speaker.
It’s some bold for him to try to stand up there and brag about his record on
education and so much more.
And, Mr. Speaker, as a former premier
used to say, the best predictor of future behaviour is past behaviour. So what
does this Premier’s record have us to believe will be contained in the budget
on Wednesday? We can expect record levels of debt and a projected surplus, Mr.
Speaker, that will sometime in the future surely turn into a deficit. Because,
Mr. Speaker, that’s what we saw just last year from that government — a
billion-dollar surplus that turned into a quarter-billion-dollar deficit. And
with hundreds of millions of dollars in extra spending, Mr. Speaker, it’s fair
to say that that government blew their budget by $2 billion.
Mr. Speaker, when will that government,
that Premier, accept any responsibility for his incompetent management of our
public finances?
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon.
Mr. Moe: — Mr. Speaker, day after day we see this
alternate reality standing up before us in the opposition members where they,
member after member, ask for us to remove this tax, remove that tax, remove
that tax, invest more here, spend more here, spend more there, Mr. Speaker. And
all the while they’re going to say, why isn’t the budget balanced in the
province, Mr. Speaker?
Mr. Speaker, a wise member that served
as the minister of Agriculture on this side, Mr. Speaker — he was our first
minister of Agriculture in 2007 — once said, when you’re in opposition you can
say whatever you want because nobody is going to take you to account.
Mr. Speaker, when you’re in government
you have to make serious decisions on behalf of the people that we represent
across this province, Mr. Speaker, serious decisions that involve, involve
creating an environment where our economy can grow and prosper so that we can
take the proceeds of that strong economy, Mr. Speaker, and invest them in our
classrooms, invest them in care, and invest them in our communities from corner
to corner to corner to corner in the province of Saskatchewan.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Rosemont.
Mr.
Wotherspoon: — Mr. Speaker, that Premier has added
more debt than any premier in Saskatchewan’s history, and in his response he
chose to remind us that he also brought about the biggest tax hike in
Saskatchewan’s history, Mr. Speaker. This tired and out-of-touch government has
wasted public dollars hand over fist. From the GTH [Global Transportation Hub]
to the bypass to sweetheart deals with donors and insiders, that’s that
Premier’s record.
How does that Premier defend his legacy
of debt, including the fact he’s added more debt than Grant Devine?
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Minister of Finance.
Hon.
Ms. Harpauer: — Mr. Speaker, I’m very curious how
the members opposite would even begin to fund their promises because they have
no plan. They criticize, but they have no plan. In order to forgo the fuel tax,
what tax would they increase to backfill it? Because that tax goes towards
repairing roads. Would we have to go back to repairing our own roads because
they forgo that revenue?
That money that is borrowed is building
hospitals, Mr. Speaker, something that never happened under the NDP. The NDP
closed hospitals, laid off nurses and doctors. Mr. Speaker, that borrowing is
going towards building schools, a record number of schools, Mr. Speaker. Under
the NDP, schools were closed, teachers and support staff were laid off.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Rosemont.
Mr.
Wotherspoon: — Mr. Speaker, as we pointed out
today, the premiers of the NDP in the past, they decreased debt, Mr. Speaker,
unlike that Premier and this other Sask Party premier, and of course Grant
Devine. We’re talking about that Sask Party government’s record. And the worst
part, for all that big spending, they sure don’t have the results to show for
it.
We have the longest waits for hip and
knee replacements in Canada. Women have to go to Calgary to a Sask Party donor
to get a mammogram at 10 times the cost. Cash-strapped families are left behind
with no relief at the pumps. Education is at a breaking point. Yet this tired
and out-of-touch government has added more debt than any other Saskatchewan
premier. And when it comes to delivering for people, they’re dead last on
results.
How does the Sask Party and that Premier
defend this indefensible record?
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Minister of Finance.
Hon.
Ms. Harpauer: — Mr. Speaker, it is easy to defend
when you look at the new schools across our province. It’s easy to defend when
you look at the new hospitals we’ve built. It’s easy to defend when you look at
the new long-term care homes that we’ve built. It’s easy to defend when you see
the highways are actually being repaired now instead of going to the potholed
abysmal state of affairs that they were under the NDP.
Mr. Speaker, what hospital would they
not have built? What school would they not have built? They need to now stand
up and say, we wouldn’t have spent that money, Mr. Speaker. We don’t think that
school is necessary. We wouldn’t have spent that money because we don’t think
that a hospital is necessary. We don’t think we’d spend the money. We have a
growing province. We need more people to be hooked up to power and energy, but
we wouldn’t hook them up. We’d just leave them out in the cold, Mr. Speaker,
because we’re not going to allow our Crowns to borrow money for infrastructure.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Rosemont.
Mr.
Wotherspoon: — Mr. Speaker, the list of waste and
mismanagement and scandal from that government is long. They’ve wasted money
hand over fist, day in day out, from sunrise to sunset, Mr. Speaker.
Saskatchewan people know it. They talk a big game about balancing the budget.
Of course they couldn’t balance the budget, so instead they had to scrap their
balanced budget legislation. And of course this Premier has balanced only one
budget, and that one was a bit of a fluke year. The last budget has gone from a
billion-dollar surplus to a billion-dollar deficit. A $2 billion miss on
the budget, Mr. Speaker.
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Saskatchewan people deserve better
performance and they deserve the straight goods, Mr. Speaker. Why won’t the
Finance minister come clean and release the third quarter financial report
instead of burying the deficit and their wild mismanagement in the back pages
of the budget on Wednesday?
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Minister of Finance.
Hon.
Ms. Harpauer: — Two more sleeps, Mr. Speaker, and he
will see the budget and he will see the third quarter. And he will have all of
his curiosity answered, quite frankly, unlike the people of Saskatchewan who
will have to wait patiently for a long, long time to ever figure out what the
plan is of the NDP, what they would close or what they would increase in
taxation in order to cover the cost of their promises.
They can say a lot, Mr. Speaker, but
they have yet to be forthright and let the public know how they would pay for
their plan, how would they pay for their promises, how would they pay for the
$3 billion worth of items in extra spending that they said they would do,
without one single idea of what they would do to pay for it. Because someone’s
got to pay for it or else they’ve got to borrow it. It’s one or the other.
So what is the NDP plan? Because that’s
what’s buried and that’s what the public doesn’t know.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon Eastview.
Mr.
Love: — Mr. Speaker, you’d think that with
the record debt under this Premier’s watch that we’d be leading the nation when
it comes to education funding. But that’s not the case. Instead, we’ve seen
per-student funding under this tired and out-of-touch government fall from
first in Canada to one of the last. It’s why teachers are taking job action.
It’s why teachers will be here on Wednesday instead of in the classroom.
Why won’t the Minister of Education do
his job and finally get a deal that addresses class size and complexity?
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Minister of
Education.
Hon.
Mr. Cockrill: — Well thank you, Mr. Speaker. And,
Mr. Speaker, I’m pleased to let the member know that we do lead the nation in
education funding. When it comes to per capita funding into K to 12
[kindergarten to grade 12] education, Mr. Speaker, Saskatchewan has led the country
among all provinces for multiple years, Mr. Speaker.
And why is that, Mr. Speaker? We have
increased school operating funding, Mr. Speaker, every year. We’ve got another
school operating funding increase coming on Wednesday, Mr. Speaker. But we’ve
also invested significantly into capital around the province —
$2.4 billion over the last 15 years into school capital, Mr. Speaker.
Sixty new schools. Thirty major renovations, Mr. Speaker. I’m looking forward
to Wednesday, to talking about more capital investment coming to schools in
Saskatchewan.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon Eastview.
Mr.
Love: — Mr. Speaker, this impasse continues
only because of this tired and out-of-touch government’s refusal, refusal to
bargain in good faith. Hoopla cancelled, Mr. Speaker. That’s on them. And the
students who were here today need this government to change their course and
find a path through. Teachers and students deserve so much better than the
smarm offensive that this minister brings to his job each and every day.
Mr. Speaker, the only path out of this
is a deal that addresses class size and complexity. If the minister won’t
negotiate that with teachers, why won’t they send just those issues to an
independent arbitrator to decide? If he does that, sanctions will end today.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Minister of
Education.
Hon.
Mr. Cockrill: — Mr. Speaker, as a former player, a
former referee, a former coach myself, I understand well the hard work that has
gone in across the province by teachers, by coaches, by players all across the
province, Mr. Speaker.
But you know, Mr. Speaker, what’s
unfortunate is now that the Saskatchewan Teachers’ Federation leadership have
decided to target the hard work of those coaches and athletes around the
province by threatening to cancel Hoopla this year, Mr. Speaker. That is
incredibly disappointing. Mr. Speaker, I don’t think it’s acceptable for the
union leadership to cancel something that students have spent thousands of
hours on when they’ve only been at the bargaining table for 30 minutes in the
last five months, Mr. Speaker.
Actions speak louder than words, Mr.
Speaker. Government has brought a renewed mandate to the table and tried to
bring forward solutions, Mr. Speaker. It’s time for the STF [Saskatchewan
Teachers’ Federation] leadership to stop looking for excuses and get back to
the bargaining table.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon Eastview.
Mr.
Love: — Mr. Speaker, if that minister worked
half as hard as those athletes up there, we would have a deal already. Mr.
Speaker, we’re at an impasse. Teachers won’t budge on their demands for a deal
that addresses class size and complexity, and the minister won’t budge from his
demand and his refusal to negotiate. There’s no path forward under the Sask
Party status quo.
It’s time for that minister to get out
of the way for an independent arbitrator to come up with a solution that works
for both sides. Does the minister realize that he is the problem? Why won’t he
agree to settle this dispute with teachers through binding arbitration so that
sanctions can end today?
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Minister of
Education.
Hon.
Mr. Cockrill: — Mr. Speaker, when I was a coach, I
made it clear to my team that I expected them to play for a full 40 minutes.
You can’t win the game unless you play for a full 40 minutes. Now, Mr. Speaker,
instead what we’ve seen from the union leadership, they haven’t even played a
full game, Mr. Speaker. They’ve been at the bargaining table for 30 minutes
over five months, Mr. Speaker. And now the union leadership is choosing to
target the hard work of students and coaches all across the province by
threatening to cancel Hoopla, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, let me just remind the
members opposite about the government’s actions over the last five months.
While the STF leadership have not been coming to the table, Mr. Speaker, we’ve
come forward with annualization of pilot projects in class size and composition
funding, Mr. Speaker. Enhancements to classroom safety, Mr. Speaker, government
has come forward with a renewed mandate on. Mr. Speaker, when it comes to
salary, we’re not going to do 23.4 per cent over four years, but we have
offered a healthy salary increase to the teachers who do important work in our
province, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, these are the actions that
government has done. It is time for the union leadership to come back to the
table.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Walsh Acres.
Mr. Clarke:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This tired and out-of-touch government is allergic to
transparency, Mr. Speaker. They’re keeping the size of the deficit under wraps,
and they’re keeping the medical services branch statistical report under wraps
too. This report shows how many doctors and specialists are working in
Saskatchewan. Now normally this gets posted online, but the Sask Party is
refusing to release it until after the session is over.
How does the Minister of Health justify
this total disregard for basic transparency?
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon.
Mr. Hindley: — Thank you. Mr. Speaker, we have the
Ministry of Health medical services branch annual statistical report for 2022‑2023
available today, which we’ll table here in the Assembly today.
Mr. Speaker, what the report highlights
is that the number of licensed physicians in Saskatchewan over the past five
years, the number of licensed physicians has grown in the province of
Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker. In the number of active physicians, Mr. Speaker,
there’s been an increase over the past five years in the number of active
physicians practising in Saskatchewan.
In the area of active rural general
practitioners, Mr. Speaker, more active rural GPs in rural Saskatchewan, Mr.
Speaker. In the area of active specialists, that has grown. It’s at 926, Mr.
Speaker, also an increase over the past five years in the number of specialists
here in our great province, Mr. Speaker.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina
Elphinstone-Centre.
Ms.
Conway: — Mr. Speaker, when the Sask Party
refused to release the third-quarter financial report, we FOI’d [freedom of
information] it. When the Sask Party refused to release the medical services
branch, we FOI’d it. Good to see the Minister of Health change his position
here today on that.
The Sask Party denied both requests by
relying on a loophole that says government doesn’t need to release a record if
it’s being published within 90 days. The independent Information and Privacy
Commissioner recommended back in 2016 that this loophole be closed and that it
be decreased to 20 days. If that had happened, the public would have the
records.
Why won’t the Minister of Justice close
the loophole and fix our broken freedom of information system?
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Minister of Justice.
Hon.
Ms. Eyre: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker,
in ’22‑23 government institutions processed 1,534 access requests for
general information. And where records existed, which is in 872 cases, access
was granted in full or in part 96 per cent of the time, Mr. Speaker.
Saskatchewan has a short wait time,
relatively speaking, for FOI requests, an average of 20 days. It maintains the
lowest percentage of FOI requests that require over 30 days to complete, at 16
per cent. Applications granted, partially or in full, increased to 832 in ’22‑23
as stated, compared to 268 in 2018‑19, Mr. Speaker. That is a 210 per
cent increase.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon Centre.
Ms.
Nippi-Albright: — Mr. Speaker, hundreds of people have
died from overdose in Saskatchewan. Last year we set a new record with 476
deaths. The crisis has claimed the lives of almost 2,000 people since 2018, and
a disproportionate number of the people we are losing are First Nation and
Métis people. When will the Sask Party stop the harm and come up with an
evidence-based plan to address overdoses and save lives?
The
Speaker: — I recognize the Minister of Mental
Health and Addictions.
Hon.
Mr. T. McLeod: — Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
And thank you for the question. Mr. Speaker, as I’ve said many times in this
House, our government has a plan, and that plan is focused on treatment and
recovery so that we can help individuals who are battling addiction overcome
their addiction and live healthy lives in recovery.
To that end, Mr. Speaker, we have
announced more than 183 new addictions treatment spaces across Saskatchewan.
Mr. Speaker, we have 15 new spaces at the Thorpe Recovery Centre in
Lloydminster. We have 60 new spaces coming in Lumsden, Mr. Speaker; 14 new
spaces at the former Drumming Hill facility in North Battleford, now operating
as Poundmaker’s Lodge. Mr. Speaker, we have 32 spaces through Possibilities
Recovery Center in Saskatoon; 26 addictions treatment spaces at St. Joseph’s
Addiction Recovery Centre in Estevan, Mr. Speaker. And we have 36 virtual
spaces offered by EHN across the province, Mr. Speaker, so that every
individual in this province has easy access to addictions treatment spaces.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the Government House Leader.
Hon.
Mr. J. Harrison: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In order to
facilitate the work of committee this afternoon and this evening, I move that
this House do now adjourn.
The
Speaker: — The Government House Leader has
moved to adjourn the House. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the
motion?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
The
Speaker: — Carried. This House now stands
adjourned until 1:30 tomorrow.
[The Assembly adjourned at 14:27.]
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