CONTENTS
Eastview Community
Association Offers Excellent Programs for Residents
New Police Chief to
Serve Prince Albert
Parents Express
Concerns about Education
Restorative Action
Program Empowers Youth in Saskatoon High Schools
Saskatchewan Achieves
Record Volume of Completed Surgeries
English River First
Nation Company Achieves Success in Diverse Industries
B’nai Brith Canada Expresses Concerns about Demonstration in
Legislature
Provision of Health
Care Services by Private Facilities
Attendance at
Conference of Parties 28
Release Date for Annual
Reports of Crown Corporations
Emergency Hotel Stays
Paid by Social Services
Overdose Deaths and
Treatment for Addictions
PRESENTING REPORTS BY
STANDING AND SPECIAL COMMITTEES
Standing Committee on
Crown and Central Agencies
Standing Committee on
Private Bills
FIRST AND SECOND
READINGS OF RESOLUTIONS
Bill No. 155 — The
Appropriation Act, 2023 (No. 2)
Bill
No. 154 — The Management and Reduction
of Greenhouse Gases Amendment Act, 2023
Referral to
Intergovernmental Affairs and Justice Committee
Referral to Crown and
Central Agencies Committee
Referral to
Intergovernmental Affairs and Justice Committee
Referral to
Intergovernmental Affairs and Justice Committee
Referral to
Intergovernmental Affairs and Justice Committee
FOURTH
SESSION — TWENTY-NINTH LEGISLATURE
of
the
Legislative Assembly of
Saskatchewan
DEBATES
AND PROCEEDINGS
(HANSARD)
N.S.
Vol. 65 No. 23A Tuesday, December 5,
2023, 13:30
[Prayers]
The Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Agriculture.
Hon. Mr. Marit:
— Mr. Speaker, I ask for an extended introduction.
The Speaker:
— Is leave granted for an extended introduction?
Some Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
The Speaker:
— Carried.
Hon. Mr. Marit:
— Mr. Speaker, this afternoon the province of Saskatchewan made an announcement
in conjunction and partnership with the community of Coronach and the RM [rural
municipality] of Coronach and a company called Videre.
Obviously the community has been hard hit as a result
of the federal government’s mandate to get out of coal production and power
facilities, Mr. Speaker, which would greatly impact the community of Coronach.
With
us here today seated in the west gallery, and I’ll ask the gentlemen to give a
wave when I introduce them: Craig Eger; he’s the reeve of the RM of Hart Butte.
Also is Kyron Manske, who is South Saskatchewan Ready
Chair and also a councillor in the RM of Hart Butte.
And I also want to introduce Tyler Holmen, who is the business manager for the
IBEW [International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers] Local 2067.
One
gentleman that couldn’t stay for today’s proceedings is also the mayor of
Coronach. Cal Martin, I also wanted to introduce, Mr. Speaker, because this
group has done an awful lot in trying to keep their community alive and
surviving as a result of the federal government’s
decision to eliminate coal-fired power plants. And we are glad as a government
to be part of that.
So
I want to welcome all these gentlemen to their Legislative Assembly, Mr.
Speaker.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina University.
Ms. A. Young:
— Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you and to all members,
I’d like to join with the member opposite in welcoming these gentlemen from
Hart Butte and from IBEW in Coronach to this, their legislature.
The
challenges facing your community are very real, facing the folks who have built
their lives there, continue to make their livelihoods there. I’m pleased today
to see that there’s some real progress, hopefully some real answers emerging for
workers, for your economy, as well as for a bright future for your community.
I
thank you for being here today on behalf of the official opposition and welcome
you to this, their legislature.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Highways.
Hon. Ms. Carr:
— Mr. Speaker, I ask leave for an extended introduction.
The Speaker:
— Leave has been requested for an extended introduction. Is leave granted?
Some Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
The Speaker:
— Carried.
Hon. Ms. Carr:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, to you and through you and to all
members of this Assembly, it’s my pleasure to introduce two gentlemen in the
west gallery. We have with us today — if you’ll just give a wave when your name
is called — Nathan Campbell and Harvey Granatier.
These
two gentlemen are with a company called Videre
Energy, and they’re going to be very instrumental in the announcement that we
made today on behalf of coal workers in the province of Saskatchewan, in
Coronach and in Hart Butte, in their communities. So, Mr. Speaker, if everybody
could please welcome these gentlemen to their Assembly.
And,
Mr. Speaker, while I’m on my feet I’m happy to introduce two individuals in the
Speaker’s gallery today. Mr. Speaker, they are here today to help support
communities that are being decimated by federal policies that the Liberal-NDP
[New Democratic Party] coalition have brought in, Mr. Speaker.
With
us today we have Steve Smith. Steve is a councillor with the RM of Estevan.
Steve has been a local entrepreneur in our community for a
number of years, so it’s my pleasure to have him here today.
But
as well with us today, Mr. Speaker, we also have the reeve of the RM of
Estevan. His name is Jason LeBlanc. Jason, welcome. I’m sure all members of
this Assembly know exactly who Jason is. He’s a successful farmer from Estevan,
who was actually spoken of in this House but not
spoken of very well by the former leader of the opposition, Ryan Meili. But to
the NDP’s chagrin, Jason is actually a successful
farmer, father, husband, businessman, and a strong leader in our community.
So
please help me welcome all of these individuals to our
House today.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina Rosemont.
Mr. Wotherspoon:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s a pleasure to join with the member and welcome
Nathan and Harvey to their Assembly here today with the delegation from in
around Coronach, along with South Sask Ready as well,
Mr. Speaker. And I welcome them on behalf of the official opposition.
And
it’s also a pleasure to welcome Steve Smith from the RM of Estevan, and Jason
LeBlanc, the reeve of the RM of Estevan, to his Assembly. I’ve had the pleasure
of getting to know Jason over the years, usually at some sort of agricultural
gathering. This is somebody who cares deeply about this province and his
community and agriculture in Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker. And it’s a pleasure to
have him and Steve in his Assembly here today.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Melville-Saltcoats.
Mr. Kaeding:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you, through you to all members of the Legislative
Assembly, I’d like to welcome three constituents to their Legislative Assembly.
Front row, west gallery, Erwin Becker is a lifelong constituent, community
leader. He’ll be turning 90 next spring. Served in
municipal politics as a councillor and reeve, has always been involved in
provincial politics.
A
couple of fun facts. He’s just recently been remarried. Both him and Lillian
are very active golfers, can certainly kick my butt. In the last couple of years they’ve travelled from coast to coast — big Blue Jays
fans — but this is his first-ever visit to a sitting legislature, Mr. Speaker.
He’s
joined by one of his four daughters, Shannon McIntyre, just retired as a band
and music teacher from the Churchbridge Public School. She’s a recent
organ-donor recipient. Her three sisters are also teachers and
also married three teachers. Shannon however is married to a purebred
Simmental producer, sitting adjacent to her, who is just also my recently
retired CA [constituency assistant], Rick McIntyre, seated there as well.
And
I’d like the Assembly to welcome all three constituents to their Legislative
Assembly.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina Coronation Park.
Mr. Burki: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, to you and
through you, I would like to welcome 21 students of grade 5 from Imperial
Community School in Regina Coronation Park, seated in the east gallery. Thank
you, Mr. Speaker, for giving us such a chance that they are here. And they’re
accompanied by two teachers, great teachers, Ms. Masters
and Ms. Seitz. Thank you very much for bringing all those kids early in the
morning and arranging over here. That’s great.
Mr. Speaker, I met with them to welcoming and
getting high-fives with them. I will face their hard questions later on after question period. And I will see how things
will go, but I think they have really good questions
for me.
I would request all members of this Legislative
Assembly to give a warm welcome to our future faces into their Legislative
Assembly. Thank you.
The
Speaker: —
I recognize the Minister of Parks, Culture and Sport.
Hon.
Ms. L. Ross: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I
request leave for an extended introduction.
The Speaker:
— Leave has been requested for an extended introduction. Is leave granted?
Some Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
The Speaker:
— Carried.
Hon. Ms. L. Ross:
— Thank you very much. I’d like to point out that we have some very special
guests today. Seated in your gallery, it’s my absolute pleasure to introduce my
friend Sherry Rosenberg. Joining Sherry is her husband, Neil Rosenberg, her
sister Mayo Sullivan, her brother Dinu Wong, and sister-in-law Carrie James.
As
many of you know, Sherry’s been working in this building for 16 years. Since we
formed government in 2007, Sherry’s been instrumental in supporting numerous
ministries, staff, summer students, and the public in her role as senior
administrator. Now I got to know Sherry when I became Minister of Parks,
Culture and Sport and Status of Women, and Sherry’s work ethic is commendable.
And I appreciate her support in our office. I’m so lucky to have had Sherry
with me as, I say, the Minister of Parks, Culture and Sport. She represented
our file well.
Now
Sherry and her husband, Neil, they’re avid Rider fans. Through thick and
through thin, they’re there. And they’re always very active in the community,
going to sports games and local events. They’re even part of a local bowling
league.
As
some of you know, Sherry is retiring this January and her knowledge, her
kindness, and her humour will definitely be missed.
And I’ll miss Sherry calling out to me as I head out the door to come to the
House: “Rock ’em, sock ’em,
Minister.” I’d like to thank Sherry for her dedication. I invite all members to
join me in thanking Sherry for her work and congratulating her on her
retirement.
And
while I’m on my feet, I’d like to also commend Jason for his daughter Gracie. I
mean, his support of women in agriculture is commendable. The day that the
combine started fire with Gracie in it, my heart stopped. Because you showed it
on video. But you know, the strength and the determination of that young woman.
We know she’s got an absolutely fabulous opportunity
under the leadership of a very strong family to become very instrumental in
this province.
So
I want to thank Jason for the work he does by showing to the people in
Saskatchewan what good farmers are all about and the support they have for their
families. So thank you very much, Jason, for all you
do.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Cannington.
Mr. D. Harrison:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you, I’d like to welcome a
constituent of mine, John Ryckman from Gainsborough.
He’s also the reeve of the RM of Argyle No. 1. I’d ask all members to
welcome John to his legislature.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina Douglas Park.
Ms. Sarauer:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I see a few individuals in the east gallery I’d like
to introduce, but first I want to join with the member opposite in welcoming
John to his Legislative Assembly. I had the honour of getting to meet him in
the basement of the Legislative Assembly earlier today. And it’s very funny
that we were chatting because one of the individuals we were chatting about
from your neck of the woods is actually seated today
in the east gallery.
Nathaniel
Cole is here as strategic advisor to the SFL [Saskatchewan Federation of
Labour] alongside his president, our president, SFL president Lori Johb, someone who has been working very closely with the
individuals, the workers in southeast Saskatchewan, an issue that she’s very
concerned about and has been a huge advocate for workers in this province, in
particular those working in the coal sector, at the federal level. So it’s an honour to see both of you here.
I
also want to acknowledge seated in the gallery beside Zoé
someone who’s from our issues and research shop. Michael Tiloy
is here. He was an intern with us in our issues and research shop since
September. He is a student at the University of Regina. It’s been an absolute
pleasure having him working with us over the last few months, and we’re looking
forward to seeing where the rest of his career will take him.
I
ask all members to join me in welcoming all of these
individuals to their gallery.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Environment.
Hon. Ms. Tell:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you to all members of this
Assembly, seated in the west gallery are 52 grade 5/6 students from W.S. Hawrylak right here in Regina, accompanied by their
teachers Jacqueline Roy and Christina Lougheed, and parent chaperone Susan
Butler. I look forward to meeting with your group very soon after question
period. I ask all members to welcome these great kids and their teachers to the
Assembly.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina Elphinstone-Centre.
Ms. Conway:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just wanted to join in in welcoming someone special
in the east gallery. That is Jan Seitz who is the teacher here with the
Imperial grade 5s.
My
partner, Nick, started his career at Imperial as a colleague of Jan’s. I got to
know Jan a bit. She works very hard to teach her students about kindness and
inclusivity. She’s a heck of a musician, very Janis Joplinesque,
Mr. Speaker. And in my books that’s pretty much the
highest compliment one can extend. She is someone who engages in challenging
conversations with her students, and Nick tells me they’re totally mesmerized
by everything she says.
[13:45]
So
I wanted to welcome her to her Legislative Assembly. My partner didn’t have the
pleasure of overlapping with Ms. Masters at Imperial,
or else I’m sure I’d have intel about how awesome she is as well. So I just wanted to welcome them again to this Legislative
Assembly.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina Pasqua.
Mr. Fiaz:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, to you, through you to all the members
of the Assembly, I would like to introduce my CA, sitting in the Speaker’s
gallery, Mr. Mounir Rahwan, Mr. Speaker. Smart, multiple-skilled personality, takes a lot of the load
off my shoulders, Mr. Speaker.
And
prior to joining my office, he was serving as a full-time military officer with
the Canadian Armed Forces, Mr. Speaker. And, Mr. Speaker, he is now joining my
office and keeping a part-time reservist officer with Regina’s own 10th Field
Regiment, 38 Brigade Artillery Tactical Group, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, Mounir
does an excellent job balancing civilian employment with a military commitment
as an army reservist officer, Mr. Speaker. With that, I would like to say thank
you very much, Mounir, for serving our country as an army officer.
And
with that, I would like to ask all the Assembly to join me to welcome Mounir in
his Legislative Assembly.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina Walsh Acres.
Mr.
Clarke: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I
want to join with the Minister of Environment to welcome the class from Jack
Mack and especially my good friend Jacqueline Roy. Hawrylak.
My apologies. My apologies.
I
just want to take a minute to recognize Jacqueline for her amazing leadership
in our community as a teacher, also in the francophone community. She is a
master swimmer and has done some amazing things in the pool, and of course is
our candidate in Regina Northeast. So I’d ask all
members to join me in welcoming Ms. Roy to her Assembly.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Government Relations.
Hon. Mr. McMorris:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you to the rest of the Assembly I
want to introduce four people that are seated in your gallery, Mr. Speaker. I
want to recognize Ryan Bellamy, who is my chief of staff, and his family Jenna,
Jaiden, and of course Oaklyn, who will steal anybody’s heart.
Mr.
Speaker, I just wanted to say a couple words about this family. They live in McLean and they really do epitomize what it is to be in the
small town. I know Ryan is very busy with Jaiden and hockey, playing hockey
with the Indian Head Chiefs and travelling across the province playing hockey.
And Jaiden is quite a goal scorer, I am hearing from his dad often. So welcome.
And
also I want to just recognize Jenna, who is a
registered nurse, one of those extremely important people in our health care
system, works at the General. But more importantly, not only does she work at
the General, but she’s also on the local school parents’ council as well as the
McLean rec board and the daycare board. That’s what
it takes in rural Saskatchewan and communities, are people like this that keep
those communities alive. Not only does Ryan keep me alive, but they keep McLean
alive. I want to thank you for all the work that you do.
Would
everybody please join me in welcoming Ryan, Jenna, Jaiden, and Oaklyn to their
Legislative Assembly.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Agriculture.
Hon. Mr. Marit:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just want to join with my colleague from
Cannington, just want to introduce, say hi to John Ryckman
as well. John and I go back a few years on municipal council together when I
was with SARM [Saskatchewan Association of Rural Municipalities] and he was the
reeve. So I just want to welcome John.
And
if I could, Mr. Speaker, I’d be remiss if I didn’t introduce my comms
specialist, Derek Griffin, who is sitting in the west gallery as well, so I
wanted to introduce him as well.
So
just want to welcome them to their Legislative Assembly, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Saskatoon Meewasin.
Mr. Teed:
— Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. It’s an honour to be on my feet today to
present our petition calling on the government to ban conversion therapy. The
undersigned in the province of Saskatchewan wish to bring to our attention the
following: conversion therapy uses discredited and abusive practices which
attempt to actively change sexual orientation, gender identity, or gender
expression; The Saskatchewan Human Rights Code names sex, sexual
orientation, and gender identity as one of the prohibited grounds of
discrimination; and the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child
indicates that children should not be discriminated against based on sexual
orientation or gender identity.
We, in the prayer that reads
as follows, respectfully request that the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan
call on the Government of Saskatchewan to ban the practice of conversion
therapy and prohibit transportation of youth and adults outside of Saskatchewan
for such purposes.
The
undersigned reside in Regina. I do so submit.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Kelvington-Wadena.
Mr. Nerlien:
— Mr. Speaker, over the past few years the federal Liberal government, fully
supported by the NDP, have worked hard to destroy the economy of Saskatchewan.
Today I’m presenting a petition that reads as follows.
We,
the undersigned residents of the province of Saskatchewan wish to bring to your
attention the following: whereas the Trudeau Liberal-NDP coalition carbon tax
is one of the main causes of affordability issues and inflation in the nation
of Canada, and that the federal government has signalled that the carbon tax
does affect Canadians differently by issuing an exemption on home heating oil
for Atlantic Canadian provinces; further that the people of Saskatchewan, 85
per cent of whom rely on natural gas to heat their homes, are unfairly left
without support by the Liberal-NDP coalition who continue to drive up the cost
of living with the price of carbon.
We, in the prayer that reads
as follows, respectfully request that the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan
take the following action: to call upon the Government of Canada to immediately
remove the carbon tax from all home heating costs across Canada to reduce
inflation and drive down the rising cost of living faced by all Canadians from
coast to coast.
The
below undersigned are residents of Regina, Lumsden, and Shellbrook. I do so
present. Thank you.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina Walsh Acres.
Mr.
Clarke: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I
rise today to present our petition calling on the government to address the
affordability crisis. The undersigned residents would like to bring to our
attention the following: that inflation is the highest it’s been in more than
three decades; that half of Saskatchewan residents were living paycheque to
paycheque before transportation and food costs skyrocketed in 2022; that food
bank use in this city is increasing day after day, Mr. Speaker. And this is the
number one issue that we hear on the doorstep when we get out into communities
across this province.
I’ll
read the prayer:
We, in the prayer that reads
as follows, respectfully request the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan call
on the Government of Saskatchewan to meaningfully address the affordability
crisis in Saskatchewan.
Mr.
Speaker, the signatories today reside in Regina. I do so present.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member for Regina Douglas Park.
Ms. Sarauer:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today yet again to present another petition calling
for the improvement of labour laws in Saskatchewan. Those who’ve signed this
petition wish to bring to our attention the following: that after the October
1st increase, Saskatchewan’s minimum wage remains the lowest in Canada at $14
an hour; the official opposition in addition has twice introduced paid sick
leave legislation since the onset of the pandemic, calling for a minimum of 10
paid sick days each year and 14 days during a public health crisis. Mr. Speaker, paid sick leave has been proven to save
employers money while making workplaces healthier and safer for all workers.
In
addition, Mr. Speaker, 71 per cent of workers in Canada have experienced
workplace violence and/or harassment, and much more needs to be done to ensure
that workplaces in Saskatchewan are truly harassment free.
I’d
like to read the prayer:
We, in the prayer that reads
as follows, respectfully request the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan to
call on the Government of Saskatchewan to improve conditions for workers by passing
legislation to increase the minimum wage, guaranteed paid sick leave, limit
nondisclosure agreements which could silence survivors of workplace harassment,
and require employers to track and report incidents of violence and harassment
in the workplace.
Mr.
Speaker, all of these are in our private member’s bill, Bill 613. We do hope
the government looks at this bill seriously and passes it in its full form.
The
individuals who signed this petition today come from Grenfell, Glenavon, and
Melville. I do so present.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Saskatoon Nutana.
Ms. Ritchie:
— Mr. Speaker, I rise today to present a petition calling on the Legislative
Assembly to fund adequate funding for education. The undersigned residents of
the province wish to bring to your attention that education funding included in
the ’23‑24 provincial budget is wholly inadequate and will lead to cuts
in the classroom again. The SSBA [Saskatchewan School Boards Association], who
represent all 27 divisions in a non-partisan way, have criticized this budget,
stating it further erodes education in our province. They note that the
increase in school division budget provides just 0.7 per cent for the ’23‑24
school year.
Saskatchewan teachers say that they are
baffled by this government’s disregard for students. STF [Saskatchewan
Teachers’ Federation] president Samantha Becotte
says “Government either doesn’t understand the issues or doesn’t think they are
important.” It is important to note that this year’s failures come after nearly
a decade of funding that fails to keep pace with inflation and enrolment, and
for years school divisions have described a system that’s already cut to the
bone.
I’ll read the prayer:
We call on the government to provide adequate,
sustainable, and predictable operating funds for our 27 public school and
separate school divisions to ensure that schools, teachers, and other caring
professionals are able to meet the needs of every
student in Saskatchewan.
This petition is signed by
the residents of Saskatoon. I do so present.
The Speaker: — I recognize the member
from Regina Douglas Park.
Ms.
Sarauer:
— Mr. Speaker, I am honoured to rise today and highlight the Eastview Community
Association, a gem within Regina Douglas Park. The Eastview Community
Association aims to serve the community members by organizing high-quality
programs and services that are barrier-free so everyone, no matter their
physical, financial, or other limitations, can have access to high-quality,
low-cost programs and services. Programs and services put on by Eastview
include but are certainly not limited to the afterschool program, the kids’
cooking class, the babysitting courses, seniors’ dancing, free movie nights,
and free rink skating.
Furthermore Eastview Community
Association is putting together a program this winter called Snow Angels. The
Snow Angels are volunteers that shovel snow for vulnerable and senior residents
in our community.
Mr. Speaker, Eastview
Community Association also puts on some very stellar events. In 2024 we can
look forward to their Eastview Winter Carnival on March 2nd. In the new year
there will also be a few new programs introduced, such as the mother and
daughter self-defence class, a stay-and-play program, and try Xcite night, where youth can come and try their youth
basketball program out before registering.
Mr. Speaker, I ask all
members to join me in thanking Eastview Community Association’s board of
directors, staff, and many volunteers for their efforts in putting together
some amazing programs and events in the Eastview community. Thank you.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Prince Albert Northcote.
Ms.
A. Ross:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This past month marks a significant moment for public
safety in Prince Albert as our government announces vital investments in the
community’s well-being, including the appointment of a new police chief. Our
government has allocated almost $4 million through the municipal police
grants program, bolstering Prince Albert’s law enforcement capabilities.
This funding is a cornerstone
for supporting 26 critical police service positions in 2023‑24, ensuring
the safety and security of our citizens. This includes initiatives like the
police and crisis team, the crime reduction team, the Saskatchewan trafficking
response team, and the internet child exploitation program.
In addition, last week marked
a new era for Prince Albert Police Service, and I was honoured to have attended
the official swearing-in of the new Prince Albert police chief. Chief Nogier has a long and distinguished career with the
Saskatoon Police Service, where he served for the past 30 years, most recently
as the superintendent of criminal investigations.
I know Chief Nogier will bring a strong professional approach to his
position that will be a great benefit to the police force and help build a
strong and lasting relationship with the citizens of Prince Albert.
Congratulations, Chief Nogier, and thank you to you
and your family for choosing to make Prince Albert your home. Thank you.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Saskatoon Eastview.
Mr.
Love:
— Mr. Speaker, I rise to expose the Sask Party
government’s inattention towards the real concerns that parents have for our
classrooms. Parents certainly want what’s best for their kids and they are
speaking up, but this government is failing to listen.
At Centennial Collegiate in
Saskatoon, the parents involved in their school community council publicly
shared the realities that their students face every day. And the numbers paint
a stark picture. Last year, Mr. Speaker, they had 1,440 students at Centennial
jostling for space in 17 portables. They have 94 classes with more than 33
students. One hundred students every day rely on the nutrition centre for food.
At a time when families are
struggling, inadequate funding is forcing those same parents to fundraise for
basic student necessities and pay out of pocket so their kids can eat lunch at
school in a crowded cafeteria.
When parents are consulted
through SCCs [school community council] and local trustees, they are raising
the alarm on the lack of mental health supports; crumbling facilities; crowded
classrooms, hallways, and portables; and complex classrooms where student needs
are going unmet.
At a time when this
government should be investing in our classrooms, they are instead investing in
anti-teacher billboards. Parents aren’t buying it, and just like teachers
they’re speaking up so that every Saskatchewan student can get the education
they deserve.
[14:00]
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Saskatoon Churchill-Wildwood.
Ms.
Lambert:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On November 24th I had the pleasure of speaking on
behalf of the Minister of Justice and Attorney General to highlight our
government’s investment of more than $770,000 to support the restorative action
program, or RAP, in Saskatoon.
Mr. Speaker, RAP is a
school-based restorative justice program that operates in 11 of 16 Saskatoon
high schools. Two of those high schools, Holy Cross High School and Walter
Murray Collegiate, are located in my constituency. RAP
works to empower youth to create safe, respectful, and caring communities
through prevention, intervention, and reconnection.
RAP facilitators are trained
in mediation, conflict resolution, and harm reduction. They offer guidance to
students in the areas of bullying, physical violence, crime, mental health,
substance abuse, suicide, and self-harm. Mr. Speaker, in 2022‑23 RAP was
accessed by over 1,200 students and facilitated 393 successful mediations. In
the same year, students accepted responsibility and repaired harm in 100 per
cent of the mediations completed.
According to the Centre for
Forensic Behavioural Science and Justice, RAP-involved students have shown
improved communication, an increase in school retention and academic
perseverance, as well as demonstrated reductions in the severity of their
conflicts.
Mr. Speaker, I am proud to
have been part of this event and to recognize our government’s continued
commitment to improving access to justice for people in Saskatchewan. Thank
you.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina Northeast.
Mr.
Grewal:
— It’s another great day in Regina and Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker. Our surgical
system has broken another record. In the first six months of the fiscal year,
we have recorded the highest volumes of completed surgeries in the history of
the province.
Thanks to their hard work,
thousands more Saskatchewan residents have been able to receive the surgeries
that they need here at home. This means an improved quality of life for
numerous patients and their families. To ensure we continue to see this growing
momentum, our government will continue providing needed supports to maximize
capacity. By focusing on recruitment and retention of professionals through our
health human resources action plan, Mr. Speaker, we have been able to enhance
our surgical teams.
Additional investment into
publicly funded and privately delivered surgical services has expanded capacity
levels significantly. We have aggressive targets in place to ensure we surpass
last year’s highest surgical volume of over 90,000 surgeries. We also aim to
see 90 per cent of surgeries performed within 10 months and ensure no one is on
a surgical wait-list for longer than 18 months. For
this fiscal year we are investing nearly 670 million annually, which is a
144 million or 27 per cent increase since 2007.
Congratulations to our
surgical teams, and we thank you for all your hard work. Thank you.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Athabasca.
Mr.
Lemaigre: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I
would like to take this opportunity to recognize the work of Des Nedhe Development, an English River First Nation company.
Des Nedhe
is now charting a new course for Indigenous business across Saskatchewan and
Canada. They have recently signed a collaboration and participation agreement
with Team Drilling LP [Limited Partnership] for drilling work in the
eastern area of the Athabasca Basin. The agreement covers the McArthur River
project, the Wheeler River project, and potentially other projects in English
River First Nation’s traditional territory.
Mr. Speaker, Des Nedhe is working to ensure Indigenous people and
northerners have opportunity in a diverse range of industries. They have
companies in areas like retail, construction, professional services, and are
even working on getting into the coffee industry. Their president and CEO
[chief executive officer], Sean Willy, recently spoke with Canada defence
briefing on how Indigenous people and businesses can play a part in Canadian
defence procurement.
And following up on this, Des
Nedhe and Canadian UAVs signed a formal partnership
in October to provide industrial-scale drone services for the energy sector.
Mr. Speaker, the sky is now literally the limit for Des Nedhe.
Mr. Speaker, I ask all
members to join me in congratulating Des Nedhe in all of their success and recognize their leadership in
getting Indigenous and northern people involved in industry. Thank you, Mr.
Speaker.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Saskatoon Southeast.
Hon.
Mr. Morgan:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to read parts of a letter from B’nai Brith Canada. These are a number of
quotes.
We
write today to alert members of the Saskatchewan legislature to the deep
concerns of the Jewish community regarding the recent demonstration during
which extremely troubling and anti-Semitic slogans were chanted by protesters. In particular the phrase “from the river to the sea” is
hateful and calls for Israel to disappear.
The
Jewish community is concerned that MLAs may have aided to organize the
demonstration.
And, Mr. Speaker, I am
quoting:
In particular, news reports suggest that MLA
Jennifer Bowes shared social media posts promoting the protest. A CBC report
mentioned that members of the official opposition caucus met with protest
organizers on November 14th. Several media quote protester Valerie Zink
admitting the following: “That’s what brought us to the legislature today, and
the intention was always to deliver the message that way.”
It
is difficult to believe that MLAs who helped facilitate this protest were
unaware the legislative session was about to be disrupted.
And I’m continuing to quote:
No
MLA should endorse slogans that call for the obliteration of the Jewish
homeland. No MLA should condemn Israel for its right to defend itself. No MLA
should simply parrot talking points of terrorist groups that are banned by
Canada.
Today’s
Jewish population continues to contribute to the well-being of the province in
many ways.
The
Speaker: —
I recognize the member from Saskatoon Eastview.
Mr. Love:
— Mr. Speaker, the Minister of Health recently announced that patients at a
high risk of breast cancer will be sent out of province for screening. He says
this is an urgent measure to deal with the very urgent backlog.
This
urgent situation of course didn’t pop out of nowhere, Mr. Speaker. To the minister:
how did he let this situation reach the point of a public health care
emergency?
The Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Mr. Hindley:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As we have discussed many times in this House,
there’s a shortage of radiologists here in Regina, a shortage of radiologists
and other specialities across the country right now, Mr. Speaker.
The
Government of Saskatchewan, along with the health recruitment agency, the SHA
[Saskatchewan Health Authority], and ministries such as the Ministry of Health
and the Ministry of Advanced Education as well as the Ministry of Immigration
and Career Training are working very aggressively to recruit, train,
incentivize, retain health care workers across this province, Mr. Speaker, to
address the vacancies that we have that are impacting some of our health care
services, Mr. Speaker.
And
as we have talked about, one of the issues that we are dealing with is the
urgent wait-list for women that are in need of
biopsies and other services related to breast cancer diagnostics, Mr. Speaker.
And we’re taking very important steps to address those wait times as quickly as
possible, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Saskatoon Eastview.
Mr. Love:
— Mr. Speaker, this is not the first extremely preventable surgical crisis on
that ministry’s watch. Last year they announced that they would be sending
people to the same clinics for hip and knee surgeries to deal with
worst-in-the-nation wait times.
And
what a job they’ve done. In March there were 4,737 people waiting for knee
replacements. In June that number was down to 4,734. That’s an improvement of
three. In March, 2,020 people were waiting for hip replacements; in June,
2,064. This is a track record of failure.
Is
the minister expecting similar results on the mammography backlog?
The Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Mr. Hindley:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Classic lines from the member of the opposition there
referring to failures and the plan to fail that they always have over there,
Mr. Speaker.
We
remind the members opposite of today’s update when it comes to surgeries, Mr.
Speaker, highest volumes ever recorded in the first six months of this fiscal
year from April 1st to September 30th. As of September 30th
47,748 procedures performed, Mr. Speaker, which is an increase over
September of 2022, Mr. Speaker.
And
part of the reason that we’re able to achieve some of these numbers, Mr.
Speaker, to get the surgeries — whether it’s hips, whether it’s knees, whether
it’s shoulders, whether it’s cataracts — is because in addition to the
significant investments we are making into the health care system into the
surgeries, operating rooms, surgeons here in Saskatchewan, it’s also the impact
of having these publicly funded, privately delivered surgeries out of cities
such as in Calgary, Mr. Speaker, where approximately 19 per cent of all
surgeries performed since 2020 have taken place in these private centres, Mr.
Speaker.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Saskatoon Southeast.
Mr. Love:
— Mr. Speaker, it is a fact that their hip and knee outsourcing didn’t make a
dent in the surgical backlog. Saskatchewan has the longest wait times in the
country. Many of those patients are waiting in pain. They deserve better from
their government.
And
now we’re here talking about cancer. People can’t afford the wait times that
this tired and out-of-touch government is forcing on them. This backlog will
kill people if it doesn’t improve. And nothing we’ve seen from that minister
shows that he’s capable of improving it.
What
is he going to do to make sure that the hip and knee failure doesn’t happen
again for these high-risk cancer patients?
The Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Mr. Hindley:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And the member opposite, we’ve talked about this a number of times, been debating this topic all fall, Mr.
Speaker, and the member opposite stands up and talks about some very serious
consequences as a result, Mr. Speaker.
But
we have yet to hear from them what is their solution. What is their immediate
solution? If they don’t like this plan, Mr. Speaker, what would they propose?
And they’re all yelling from across the way. Not a single one
of them actually has an alternative, Mr. Speaker.
I
can tell you this, Mr. Speaker. Since last Wednesday when this announcement was
made, officials started contacting patients on the wait-list
on Thursday. Mr. Speaker, as of today I can tell you that 30 patients have
accepted this offer and have been referred to Calgary to receive the biopsies
that they need, receive the diagnostics they need, Mr. Speaker.
The
members opposite can talk all day all they want about the process. This
government is going to talk about the patients.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Saskatoon Eastview.
Mr. Love:
— Mr. Speaker, it is astounding to see the effort that that minister puts into
patting himself on the back while people wait for care. If he cared half as
much about this province’s health care resources, Saskatchewan’s only
hyperbaric chamber wouldn’t be shut down today. The chamber in Moose Jaw is
sitting there, out of order, because they don’t have staff to operate it. So patients have to fly to — you guessed it, Mr. Speaker —
Calgary.
To
the minister: when will Saskatchewan’s only hyperbaric chamber be back in use?
The Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Rural and Remote Health.
Hon. Mr. T. McLeod:
— Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Stabilizing and strengthening the staffing
in Moose Jaw and our other communities right across Saskatchewan is a priority
for our government, Mr. Speaker. That’s why our government has the health human
resources action plan to recruit, train, incentivize, and retain more health
care professionals right across the province.
Mr.
Speaker, the SHA is actively recruiting to fill the vacant respiratory
therapist positions required to restore the hyperbaric chamber in Moose Jaw at
the Wigmore Hospital. Two of these positions are
currently filled, Mr. Speaker. A third has recently been recruited and will be
starting in the new year. Mr. Speaker, the SHA plans to resume the hyperbaric
chamber service as soon as a fourth respiratory therapist has been successfully
hired. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Saskatoon Eastview.
Mr. Love:
— Mr. Speaker, if a person in Saskatchewan needs a new hip, they’re flying to
Calgary. If they need a new knee, they’re flying to Calgary. If they need a
breast biopsy, they’re flying to Calgary. If they need oxygen therapy, they’re
flying to Calgary.
Now
the minister has said, “For us, the cost isn’t the issue.” That’s great. If
he’s got money to burn, will that minister consider investing in a fleet of
Ministry of Health jets to better fly Saskatchewan people to Calgary?
The Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Mr. Hindley:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Glad to see the member up on his feet again on health
questions. Apparently, unfortunately for my colleague from The Battlefords,
he’s run out of education questions.
Mr.
Speaker, as I said in a previous answer, 19 per cent of the surgeries performed
since 2020 have taken place in private surgical centres, some of those in
Saskatchewan, some of those out of province, Mr. Speaker. The members opposite,
they want to debate about this. They want to talk about the dollars and cents,
Mr. Speaker. They don’t care about the people that are waiting for these
surgeries that contact their offices, that contact MLAs [Member of the Legislative
Assembly] on both sides of this Chamber, Mr. Speaker.
Again,
they’re ideologically opposed to this for a whole host of reasons, Mr. Speaker.
For them it’s not about patient care. It never is, Mr. Speaker. It’s about
politics for the NDP members opposite time and time and time again, Mr.
Speaker. But we’re going to continue to focus on improving patient access and
patient care for the people of Saskatchewan, here in Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker.
[14:15]
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Saskatoon Eastview.
Mr. Love:
— Mr. Speaker, not an ounce of accountability from this tired and out-of-touch
government. It doesn’t have answers for our health care crisis, and it’s
failing to deliver for people who need care. Is it any wonder that life expectancy
in this province has been dropping for three straight years? In 2019 a senior
in this province could expect to live to see their 80th birthday. That is not
true today. Now it’s 78 — two full years gone.
Does
the minister recognize his government’s policies have, on average, stolen two
years of Saskatchewan people’s lives?
The Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Mr. Hindley:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A bit of a stretch there from the member opposite in
terms of some of the comments that he’s making here today, Mr. Speaker. If he
wants to talk about the policies that this government has taken . . .
And if they would just listen for a second, for once, it would be nice, Mr.
Speaker. I know that’s difficult for them, Mr. Speaker.
But
a number of policies and initiatives that this government has instituted over
the past number of years: the HHR [health human resources] action plan launched
in September of last year to hire 1,000 more health care workers in this
province over the next number of years; 550 more training seats for the
Ministry of Advanced Education in 18 different health care designations across
this province; 250 new permanent, full-time positions in health care to treat
people across this province. Well over 200 of those positions have already been
filled, Mr. Speaker. As I said last week, over 800 nursing grads through our
various training institutions in Saskatchewan now hired, working at facilities
right across Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina University.
Ms. A. Young:
— Mr. Speaker, those are some smug and self-righteous answers from a government
that is far too cavalier with the concerns of the people of this province. They’re
also far too cavalier with public money.
Now,
Mr. Speaker, it really does seem to be the only thread unifying this tired and
out-of-touch government, but just last week we found out that they’re spending
$750,000 of public money to attend the United Nations climate change
conference, and then yesterday the minister told us he’d gone and spent another
$238,000 on ads in the Dubai subway.
Now,
Mr. Speaker, I guess you can’t put a price on telling Saskatchewan’s story on
the world stage, or that of the University of Guelph. But, Mr. Speaker, let’s
try a little bit of transparency. How much is total government spending on
COP28 [Conference of Parties 28] going to reach, including the cost to all
government?
The Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Trade and Export Development.
Hon. Mr. J. Harrison:
— Well thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. And let’s be very clear why we’re in
COP. We’re there to support our companies, tell our story, and make sure that
our products that are made here in Saskatchewan are sold right around the
world, Mr. Speaker.
And
I can tell you that we have been doing that: working with our companies,
working with our entrepreneurs, working with our producers to make sure that
that is a success. And we have seen success — $53 billion dollars of
exports last year, Mr. Speaker. That is how we pay for hospitals, that is how
we pay for schools, that is how we fix highways, something that the NDP never
did any of, Mr. Speaker. And the reason they never did any of those things, Mr.
Speaker, was because exports were $16 billion at their very peak, and I’m
being generous, at their very peak during their last year in government.
Three
times more export value over the course of that period of
time, Mr. Speaker. That’s how we pay for things here in this province,
that’s how we’ve added 200,000 new jobs to this province, and that’s why we’re
growing quicker than we have ever grown before.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina University.
Ms. A. Young:
— Mr. Speaker, that is a minister who has overseen a job creation record of 1
per cent in the last nine years. Do you want to talk about no credibility, Mr.
Speaker? I don’t know what kind of credibility it brings to the economy of
Saskatchewan to be spending taxpayer money to support the government of
Newfoundland, to support the University of British Columbia, to support the
University of Guelph.
But,
Mr. Speaker, maybe the cost doesn’t matter to this tired and out-of-touch
government, but it does matter to us because it matters to Saskatchewan
taxpayers. And we haven’t even begun to touch travel costs, Mr. Speaker.
So
to the minister, simple question: can he provide a full head count for all
government and public sector employees, and can he tell us who will be picking
up the tab?
The Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Trade and Export Development.
Hon. Mr. J. Harrison:
— Well I’m going to start at the beginning, Mr. Speaker. Let’s talk about jobs.
Let’s talk about the last jobs report that we had, Mr. Speaker. Nearly 20,000 jobs
were added over the course of the last year in this province. Twenty-five
thousand full-time jobs, Mr. Speaker, were added in Saskatchewan over the last
year.
And
what was their record over 16 years, Mr. Speaker? Their record was negative job
growth over 16 years, Mr. Speaker. We have added nearly 200,000 jobs over the
course of the last 16 years. Apple-to-apples comparison, I think I know which
side the people of this province would rather be on, Mr. Speaker, and that’s
reflected in a number of things.
Let’s
talk as well about those that those members are counting as out-of-province
companies that should not be using and telling their story at COP, companies
like Whitecap Resources, Mr. Speaker. Companies like Cenovus Energy. Companies
like Foran Mining. Companies like Enbridge. Companies
like Mosaic. Companies like BHP. Organizations like the Canadian Cattlemen’s
Association. Companies like Agrocorp . . .
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina University.
Ms. A. Young:
— Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. The question was, who will be picking up
the tab? And the answer is, the taxpayers of Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker. And now
there are a lot, the minister is right, there’s a lot of people travelling to
Dubai on the public dime. And the taxpayer deserves to know how big the bill is
that they’re footing.
Last
week we were worried it was $1 million. But with the steady drip, drip,
drip out of this government, it looks like it’s going to be a million five. So will the minister commit to tabling the full amount paid
by the government and all public sector entities?
The Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Trade and Export Development.
Hon. Mr. J. Harrison:
— Well I can tell you, Mr. Speaker, we are very proud of our companies, who
paid their own way by the way to be in Dubai at COP. We are very, very proud of
what they do. We are very, very proud of the commodities they produce.
The
NDP, on the other hand, have expressed their shame. They want to apologize for
what we do in Saskatchewan, just like Justin Trudeau, just like Steven Guilbeault, Mr. Speaker.
We
are not going to apologize for what we do in this province better than any
other jurisdiction in the world, Mr. Speaker. We are not going to apologize for
working with our companies — whether it be in Dubai at COP, whether it be
through our international trade missions, Mr. Speaker — to sell our commodities
around the world. Fifty-three billion dollars of exports last year; the highest
they ever had, Mr. Speaker, was 16 billion. That $53 billion is how
we pay for hospitals. It’s how we pay for schools. It’s how we fix highways,
something they never did, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Saskatoon Nutana.
Ms. Ritchie:
— Mr. Speaker, I don’t think we got a straight answer to that last question.
It’s just more deflection from a tired and out-of-touch government. Clearly they have trouble managing money.
The
CIC [Crown Investments Corporation of Saskatchewan] annual report showed their
earnings dropped by $354 million. We know this from the Crown reports
released on July 28th. But according to The Crown Corporations Act, the
deadline to release the Crown’s subsidiary annual reports was July 14th. And
FOIs [freedom of information] from the various Crowns show they were ready to
go on July 1st.
Can
the minister explain why these annual reports were released two weeks late?
The Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Crown Investments Corporation.
Hon. Mr. Duncan:
— Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, we worked very closely with
the Crown corporations in preparing the annual reports and preparing the
timelines for those reports.
Certainly
we know that there were by-elections that were going to impact the timing of
the release of those reports. We were advised by a number of
the Crown corporations that they couldn’t move up their timelines in order to
be able to deliver those earlier than when the by-elections would need to be
called, Mr. Speaker. And so we, Mr. Speaker, as the
normal course of action, we did release the annual reports for all the people
of this province to see.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Saskatoon Nutana.
Ms. Ritchie:
— Well, Mr. Speaker, I think the FOI reports show a very different story. The
deadline is not a courtesy; it’s a law which the Sask
Party government passed in 2016. Since they wrote it, I’m sure the minister can
answer this very simple question. Does he know the purpose of that deadline in The
Crown Corporations Act?
The Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Crown Investments Corporation.
Hon. Mr. Duncan:
— Mr. Speaker, I believe the law is 90 days after the fiscal year. Mr. Speaker,
we worked with the Crown corporations in terms of the timing. Obviously they bring together all the information, prepare
the annual reports.
We
looked to see the best point in terms of the timing of the releases, Mr.
Speaker. But knowing that there was a by-election, Mr. Speaker, we did ask the
Crown corporations if it was possible to move that deadline up in terms of
their having the annual reports available to be publicly released prior to the
by-elections. It wasn’t possible in a number of the
cases of the Crown corporations, Mr. Speaker, but we did table them
accordingly.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Saskatoon Nutana.
Ms. Ritchie:
— Well since the minister had so much difficulty in answering that question,
I’ll answer it for him, Mr. Speaker. It’s so that the government cannot
weaponize the release date to create an unfair advantage over political
opponents. Perhaps it slipped the minister’s mind that three by-elections were
announced on July 14th, the tabling deadline. They didn’t announce losing
hundreds of millions that day the writ was dropped. They waited two weeks then
quietly released the reports — no media, no briefings, just letting it pass
under the radar.
Can
the minister think of any reason why his government broke the law governing
tabling dates other than to bury an expensive failure during the by-elections?
The Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Crown Investments Corporation.
Hon. Mr. Duncan:
— Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, first of all
I think we were very clear with the people of Saskatchewan as it relates to the
expected earnings of the Crown corporations. I know the previous minister in
committee in the spring would have indicated that, for example, SaskPower would
have been on track for a loss, which was experienced by the Crown corporation.
But,
Mr. Speaker, just to be clear, the fiscal year ends March 31st. The legislation
says that it’s 90 days that is required in terms of tabling. That would be to
the end of July, Mr. Speaker, so I believe we did meet those timelines.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina Elphinstone-Centre.
Ms. Conway:
— Thanks, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday the member from Regina Northeast appeared
before the media to answer questions regarding his Sunrise Motel, if you can
call it that, Mr. Speaker. He did manage to clarify that he endorses his
Sunrise Motel’s practice of upping rates when the Government of Saskatchewan is
picking up the tab. He justified that by blaming and shaming and stereotyping
low-income clients, saying they routinely cause damage to motel rooms.
The
problem is, Mr. Speaker, in the case of Ms. Harper the Sunrise Motel charged a
windfall of 800 bucks, because of the risk of low-income clients, in addition
to holding her damage deposit until I had to write an open letter to the member
from Regina Northeast, and then pocketed the $800 windfall after Ms. Harper did
not cause damage to her room.
Does
the Minister of Social Services consider it appropriate to shame and perpetuate
harmful stereotypes about his ministry’s own clients by suggesting they can’t
be trusted not to cause damage? Does he not see the issue in his colleague
pocketing a windfall of 800 bucks?
The Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Social Services.
Hon. Mr. Makowsky:
— In fact what we’re doing is looking after the most vulnerable people in all
our areas, Mr. Speaker, in terms of if there’s a hotel needed in an emergency situation, we will look after that individual
in both income assistance, child and family, Mr. Speaker.
I
have committed to the member opposite that we will look into
the information she has asked for, and we will release that as soon as we can.
The Provincial Auditor has also indicated they are going to look at these
measures as well. As well as internally, Mr. Speaker, we’re going to take a look at the procedures and policies around using
hotel rooms, Mr. Speaker.
And
as I’ve said before, we’re going to continue to do that if we have to, Mr. Speaker, to look after the most vulnerable
people in our province. We’ve seen during this entire question period the NDP
playing politics, Mr. Speaker. I’m more interested in vulnerable people.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina Elphinstone-Centre.
Ms. Conway:
— Ah yes, the procedures and policies. We keep hearing about the procedures and
policies. It’s not the minister who doesn’t respect his clients, this Assembly,
or basic principles of ethics and transparency, it’s the policy. Well there’s a very simple solve, Mr. Speaker: show us the
policy.
Will
the minister commit to finally tabling his policy on hotel rooms for clients?
Will he now, in the final days of this fall sitting, table the information
we’ve been requesting for weeks?
[14:30]
The Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Social Services.
Hon. Mr. Makowsky:
— Mr. Speaker, as I’ve said many times before, we’re going as quickly as we
can, compiling that information that the member has asked for. It is a lot of information and it will take some time, Mr. Speaker, in
terms of looking at different units within the Ministry of Social Services that
happen to use hotels, but also older programs, some older computer programs. So
that will take time, Mr. Speaker. As soon as we have that information, that
will be released. As well, the Provincial Auditor has mentioned that their
office will be looking at this matter as well. Thank you.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina Elphinstone-Centre.
Ms. Conway:
— Mr. Speaker, we still haven’t received this month’s death statistics from the
coroner’s office. But we already know it’s going to be another record-setting
year for overdose deaths in the province, another year of hundreds of parents,
children, brothers, sisters, husbands, wives all lost to addiction.
We
want to see progress. We deserve to see that line going down. Instead we see 2023 worse than 2022. How is that minister
going to prevent another record-setting year of deaths in 2024?
The Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Mental Health and Addictions.
Hon. Mr. T. McLeod:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And as I said yesterday, what we’ve seen is this
government making a record investment in mental health and addictions in this
province, Mr. Speaker. We have an ambitious mental health and addictions action
plan that is more than doubling the addictions treatment spaces to be available
and easily accessible to individuals who may be struggling with addictions so
that they can overcome those addictions, Mr. Speaker, and live a life in
recovery.
Mr.
Speaker, this investment is ambitious, and we are just at the front end. We are
going to see this plan roll out over the next five years, Mr. Speaker. And I’m
excited to see the growth that this plan will develop in the mental health and
addictions treatment facilities. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the Government House Leader.
Hon. Mr. J. Harrison:
— Point of order, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker:
— State your point of order.
Hon. Mr. J. Harrison:
— During question period the member for Elphinstone-Centre said that the
Minister of Social Services doesn’t respect the ethics of the Chamber. Obviously that’s a violation of the Rules and Procedures.
I would ask that member to stand in her place, withdraw, and apologize.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina Elphinstone-Centre.
Ms. Conway:
— I withdraw and apologize, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the Chair of the Crown and Central Agencies.
Mr. Cheveldayoff:
— Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I am instructed by the Standing Committee
on Crown and Central Agencies to report that it has considered certain
estimates and to present its ninth report. I move:
That the ninth report of the
Standing Committee on Crown and Central Agencies be now concurred in.
The Speaker:
— It has been moved by the Chair:
That the ninth report of the
Standing Committee on Crown and Central Agencies be now concurred in.
Is
the Assembly ready for the question?
Some Hon. Members:
— Question.
The Speaker:
— Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
The Speaker:
— Carried. I recognize the Chair of the private members’ committee.
Mr. Bradshaw:
— Mr. Speaker, the Standing Committee on Private Bills met earlier today and
considered compliance of the rules for the petition of a private Bill
No. 906, The Lutheran Collegiate Bible Institute Amendment Act. Mr.
Speaker, I’m instructed by the Standing Committee on Private Bills to present
its sixth report. I move:
That the sixth report of the
Standing Committee on Private Bills be now concurred in.
The Speaker:
— It has been moved:
That the sixth report of the
Standing Committee on Private Bills be now concurred in.
Is
the Assembly ready for the question?
Some Hon. Members:
— Question.
The Speaker:
— Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
The Speaker:
— The motion is carried. And pursuant to rule 102, private Bill No. 906, The
Lutheran Collegiate Bible Institute Amendment Act is deemed to be read the
first time and is ordered for second reading on the next private members’ day.
The
Speaker: — I do now leave the Chair
for Committee of Finance.
The Chair:
— The items before the committee are the appropriation resolutions. I recognize
the Minister of Finance.
Hon. Ms. Harpauer:
— I move the following resolution no. 1:
Resolved
that towards making good the supply granted to His Majesty on account of
certain charges and expenses of the public service for the fiscal year March
31st, 2024, the sum of $193,182,000 be granted out of the General Revenue Fund.
The Chair:
— The Minister of Finance has moved resolution no. 1:
Resolved that towards making
good the supply granted to His Majesty on account of certain charges and
expenses of the public service for the fiscal year ending March 31st, 2024, the
sum of $193,182,000 be granted out of the General Revenue Fund.
Is
the committee ready for the question?
Some Hon. Members:
— Question.
The Chair:
— Is it the pleasure of the committee to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
The Chair:
— Carried. There being no further business before the committee, I would invite
a member to move that the committee rise and report progress and ask for leave
to sit again.
Hon. Ms. Harpauer:
— Mr. Chair, I move that the committee rise and that the Chair report that the
committee has agreed to a resolution, and ask for
leave to sit again.
The Chair:
— It has been moved by the Minister of Finance that the committee rise, report
progress, and ask for leave to sit again. Is that agreed?
Some Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
The Chair:
— Carried.
[The
Speaker resumed the Chair.]
The Speaker:
— I recognize the Chair of Committees.
Mr. Bradshaw:
— Mr. Speaker, the Committee of Finance has agreed to certain resolutions and
has instructed me to report the same, and asked for
leave to sit again.
The Speaker:
— When shall the resolutions be read the first time? I recognize the Minister
of Finance.
Hon. Ms. Harpauer:
— I move that the resolution be now read the first and second time.
The Speaker:
— Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
The Speaker:
— Carried.
Deputy Clerk:
— First and second reading of the resolutions.
The Speaker:
— When shall the committee sit again? I recognize the Minister of Finance.
Hon. Ms. Harpauer:
— Next sitting, Mr. Speaker.
The Speaker:
— Next sitting. Pursuant to rule 32(1), the Minister of Finance shall move the
first reading of the appropriation bill. I recognize the Minister of Finance.
Hon. Ms. Harpauer:
— I move that Bill No. 155,
The Appropriation Act, 2023 (No. 2) be now introduced and
read the first time.
The Speaker:
— The Minister of Finance has moved that Bill No. 155, The Appropriation Act, 2023 (No. 2)
be now introduced and read the first time. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly
to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
The Speaker:
— Carried.
Deputy Clerk:
— First reading of this bill.
The Speaker:
— When shall the bill be read a second time? I recognize the Minister of Finance.
Hon. Ms. Harpauer:
— With leave and pursuant to rule 32(1)(e), I request that Bill No. 155, The
Appropriation Act, 2023 (No. 2) be now read a second and third
time.
The Speaker:
— The Minister of Finance requested leave to move second and third reading of Bill No. 155, The
Appropriation Act, 2023 (No. 2) immediately. Is leave granted?
Some Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
The Speaker:
— Carried. The minister may proceed.
Hon. Ms. Harpauer:
— Mr. Speaker, I move that Bill
No. 155, The Appropriation Act, 2023 (No. 2) be now
read a second and third time.
The Speaker:
— The Minister of Finance has moved second and third reading of Bill No. 155, The
Appropriation Act, 2023 (No. 2). Is the Assembly ready for the
question?
Some Hon. Members:
— Question.
The Speaker:
— Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
The Speaker:
— Carried.
Deputy Clerk:
— Second and third reading of this bill.
The Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Environment.
Hon. Ms. Tell:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. At the end of my remarks today, I will move second
reading of Bill 154, The Management and Reduction of Greenhouse
Gases Amendment Act. These amendments will allow
output-based performance standards, or OBPS which is how I’m going to refer to
them, compliance payments, penalties, and debts from the province’s electricity
sector to be used in support of ongoing developments and future investments
needed to achieve a clean provincial electricity grid by 2050.
Mr.
Speaker, the Saskatchewan Technology Fund was established under The
Management and Reduction of Greenhouse Gases Act in 2018 as a compliance
option for regulated emitters in Saskatchewan’s OBPS program.
Effective
January 1, 2023 the regulatory scope of the OBPS
program has been expanded, changing the size and distribution of annual
compliance payments. The Act currently states, all compliance payments and any
debts associated with compliance obligations must be deposited into the
technology fund. These funds are returned to industry through a merit-based
application process to support innovative projects that reduce greenhouse gas
emissions.
When the
technology fund was established under the Act, the electricity sector was not
included as part of the OBPS program. The recent expansion of the OBPS program
to include the electricity sector, combined with the federal carbon tax
increasing to $170 per tonne by 2030, would result in annual compliance
payments into the technology fund not typically seen in revolving funds outside
of the GRF [General Revenue Fund]. Revolving funds operating under ministerial
authority outside of the GRF are usually relatively small.
The
Government of Saskatchewan is committed to achieving net zero emissions from
the provincial electricity sector by 2050 by incorporating possibly nuclear
power as part of the energy mix, building wind and solar at an ambitious pace,
and leveraging natural gas generation to ensure reliability. As a publicly
owned Crown utility, SaskPower is committed to reducing emissions and supplying
Saskatchewan residents with safe, reliable, and affordable power.
The
Act will provide the province and SaskPower with the additional flexibility
needed to invest in clean energy to achieve net zero electricity while ensuring
Saskatchewan households, businesses, and farms continue to have access to safe,
reliable, and affordable power. The Government of Saskatchewan will be
directing all future OBPS program electricity sector proceeds towards clean
energy transition priorities, including funding Saskatchewan’s first small
modular reactor. Further details will be included in the ’23‑24 third
quarter report and as part of the ’24‑25 provincial budget in March.
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The
Government of Saskatchewan is committed to ongoing transparency and
accountability through the provincial budget, quarterly reports, and public
accounts, including tracking how all OBPS program electricity sector revenues
are being used to support the province’s clean electricity transition.
In
conclusion, the province is committed to a long-term plan to transition to net
zero electricity sector, but that cannot mean sacrificing affordability or
economic competitiveness. The Act will help support clean electricity
transition priorities while maintaining affordability and competitiveness for
generations to come. All other OBPS program compliance payments from industry
will continue to be deposited into the technology fund to support
industry-driven projects that reduce emissions while strengthening the
provincial economy through technological innovation.
I
now move second reading of Bill 154, The Management and Reduction of Greenhouse
Gases Amendment Act.
The Speaker:
— It has been moved that Bill 154 be now read a second time. Is the Assembly
ready for the question? I recognize the member from Regina University.
Ms. A. Young:
— Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. A pleasure to be on my feet and enter some
initial comments on second reading of The Management and Reduction of
Greenhouse Gases Amendment Act. I think it is fair to say that there are a
number of questions in regards to this bill, and I
know myself and the critic will be doing considerable outreach and looking at
this bill very closely, Mr. Speaker, because at first blush, as I said, there’s
a number of questions.
And
this is a government that has not, despite the protestations, has not been
particularly transparent, upfront, or accountable when it has come to things
like the OBPS, like compliance payments, like the state of the industrial
carbon tax, and what their plans are for the hundreds of millions of dollars.
We’re hearing a little bit more about that, Mr. Speaker, and I hope we continue
to hear more about that. Having heard the minister’s comments, I’d like to put
a couple on the record very briefly.
You
know, Mr. Speaker, when we look at the OBPS and the money that is available,
their money that should belong to Saskatchewan people, Mr. Speaker, money that
should be used for affordability, for customers of SaskPower, Mr. Speaker,
money that should be used for large fixed emitters to allow them to innovate,
Mr. Speaker, the technology fund is something that we spoke in support of. I
think this is a good model for businesses, for industry to be able to reduce
their carbon footprint. And this money should also be available for things like
retrofits and innovations for families, farms, and small businesses.
What
this money should not become, Mr. Speaker, is a slush fund for this government,
Mr. Speaker, which . . . The minister’s right;
we’ve discussed this in committee. And we’ve seen some comments along the lines
of, perhaps this money — and I’m paraphrasing here — might end up in the GRF,
Mr. Speaker. And again we are talking about money that
belongs in Saskatchewan that should be used to innovate, to reduce emissions,
and to provide some affordability relief. This cannot be money used willy-nilly
by members opposite for whatever pet project strikes them, Mr. Speaker.
And
lastly I think I’d like a little bit more
clarification. The minister said that this money is going to be used to fund
Saskatchewan’s first SMR [small modular reactor], Mr. Speaker. Now on this side
of the Assembly, we’ve been clear. We’re really open
to that conversation of looking at what low-carbon, low-emission energy and
what the electricity future of Saskatchewan looks like. But this is a
government, Mr. Speaker, that has committed time and time again, publicly, to
real consultation, a real conversation with the public. And they’ve committed
to a decision-making timeline. So it’s perhaps strange
to hear the minister speak so clearly on the fact that this money is going to
build Saskatchewan’s first SMR when, you know, as the critic for SaskPower, I
wasn’t clear that this government had made a decision fully to proceed with
SMRs.
With
the commitment made by the minister to full transparency, full accounting for
these public dollars, on this side of the House, Mr. Speaker, on behalf of the
official opposition, on behalf of people of this province, we look forward to
that.
But,
Mr. Speaker, I think when we look at this bill there’s a lot of questions that
deserve real attention. And hopefully alongside the critic for this bill, our
team will endeavour to bring some light and some transparency to this very
important piece of legislation.
Thank
you. I move to adjourn debate.
The Speaker:
— The member has moved to adjourn debate. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to
adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
The Speaker:
— Carried.
[The
Assembly resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon. Ms.
Eyre that Bill No. 140 — The
Miscellaneous Statutes Repeal Act, 2023 be now read a second time.]
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Saskatoon Meewasin.
Mr. Teed:
— Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I’m proud to be on my feet again one more
time to speak to Bill 140.
Mr.
Speaker, my colleagues have put thoughtful comments on the record. I want to
thank the minister for her comments, and at this time I will allow the bill to
move on to its next stage in committee.
The Speaker:
— The question before the Assembly is a motion by the minister that Bill
No. 140 be now read a second time. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to
adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
The Speaker:
— Carried.
Deputy Clerk:
— Second reading of this bill.
The Speaker:
— To which committee shall this bill be committed? I recognize the Government
House Leader.
Hon. Mr. J. Harrison:
— The Standing Committee on Intergovernmental Affairs and Justice.
The Speaker:
— The bill stands committed to the Standing Committee on Intergovernmental
Affairs and Justice.
[The
Assembly resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon. Mr.
Duncan that Bill No. 142 — The
Miscellaneous Statutes (Utility Line Locates) Amendment Act, 2023 be
now read a second time.]
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina Walsh Acres.
Mr.
Clarke: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Happy to rise on this bill today. A number of our
members have put a number of comments on the record in a fairly straightforward
manner, and so with that I would be happy to allow this bill to move on to the
next stage.
The Speaker:
— The question before the Assembly is the motion by the minister that Bill
No. 142 be now read a second time. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to
adopt the motion?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
The Speaker:
— Carried.
Deputy
Clerk: — Second reading of this
bill.
The Speaker:
— To which committee shall this bill be committed? I recognize the Government
House Leader.
Hon. Mr. J. Harrison:
— Crown and Central Agencies.
The Speaker:
— The bill stands committed to the Standing Committee on Crown and Central
Agencies.
[The
Assembly resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon. Mr.
Cockrill that Bill No. 143 — The Child Care Amendment Act, 2023/Loi modificative de 2023 sur les garderies
d’enfants be now read a second time.]
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Saskatoon Centre.
Ms. Nippi-Albright:
— miigwech, Mr. Speaker. I’m pleased to provide some
comments on this bill that’s being presented today and being debated on.
And
so this bill is allowing centres, they have to have a
board of directors and parental advisory — so part of the folks that sit on the
board of directors must be parents of children that they have in the child care
centre — and that non-profits can operate more than one facility at a time. And
my understanding is, if you lose your licence in these child
care centres, that you can’t reapply for one year and that you have to
pay the fees, you have to do the training, correct all deficiencies, and meet
any requirements to get a new one. The minister, on the other hand, can refuse the
application for public interest. And also the minister
sets minimum wage and wage enhancements and that the centres can’t set higher
fees for grant parents than non-grant.
So
when I think about this, it’s good that you’re looking at allowing centres to
operate more facilities. However it doesn’t address
the core issue that there just isn’t enough folks to fill those positions in
these child care centres. We want child care that
works, you know. It has to be effective. It has to be beneficial for the facility, the staff, the
parents, and the children. So we have to look at that.
And
you know, we always talk about how, or we hear in this House how much
investment is being given to the community and organizations, yet one of the
things that happens is we have such a bureaucracy within these institutions
that when we say we’re going to do something, or when the government says
they’re going to do something, there’s red tape. You know, they’re slow, slow
processes that are in place. And we’ve had folks coming into this gallery
saying, you know what, the government is moving at a snail’s pace.
And
like, I just think of my own experience, and I’m quite proud to say my first
job was working in a child care centre. I worked with
from babies to toddlers to pre-schoolers. And one of the things I had quite an
appreciation for, where I worked at the daycare
centre, for the staff, for the amount of training that
they would take, we took. The love and care that we gave to the children that
the parents entrusted us with, and also the
appreciation from the families that they were entrusting us with their babies,
you know.
And
we had a variety of different parents’ income levels that brought their babies
to the child care centre, and it was such an honour to
be there. But one of the things I did notice was, it was really hard — and this
was a long time ago; this is when my girl was a baby, you know, a young girl —
that it was hard to keep and attract people, attract people to come and work
and to provide that love, care, education to the children we were entrusted
with.
And
one of the things that . . . I loved the work that I was doing, but
the pay didn’t reflect the importance of what we were doing, you know. And that
is one of the things that I questioned back 30 years ago, you know, when I
worked there and was saying, you know, we don’t get paid the amount that we
ought to because we’re caring for parents’ children. And I’ve always spoke
about that where, yes, we always talk about how it’s important that we’ve
. . . child care
is very important and that our children are very important, yet we don’t invest
enough in the people that are providing that care. Like, today I don’t
encourage any of my family to go into that profession because they’re going to
struggle financially, you know.
So
when the government is creating, in their eyes, these opportunities, it’s
really important to talk to the child care providers, talk to the child care
centres, talk to the stakeholders that are going to be impacted. And it’s really sad when that doesn’t happen and that the message
that is conveyed to the stakeholders is that the government is the one who
knows best, which quite frequently is not the case. It’s the users of those
facilities. It’s the parents. It’s those child care
centres. They know their business.
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And
it’s important that any government, any sitting government, you have to go and talk to those people and say, what is going
to work best for you? Here’s what we’re thinking; what do you think? And then
also when you do that, it builds that trust. You build that relationship. You
demonstrate to the people, to the stakeholders, you respect them
and you value their input and you truly want to be a good legislator.
So
like time and time again my colleagues have had folks coming into the gallery
that are directly impacted by this, saying that, you know what, you guys are
moving too slow. And that’s true. We’ve created systems that get in the way of
doing what’s the right thing to do. We create red tape. We don’t have timelines.
We don’t have target measures. We don’t evaluate ourselves and say, are we
meeting our goal. And in the case that we’re not, what’s holding up? We don’t
take that time to reflect and that’s unfortunate. And the people that are going
to suffer are the people that we’re creating these bills for, this legislation
for. That’s who’s going to get hurt.
So
when I took in . . . This is when I was much younger. I took in my
five-month-old nephew and I enrolled him in a daycare centre. And we didn’t qualify for the subsidy, but
that was okay. That was okay because I knew that the people in that child care centre were going to take great care for my
nephew.
And
I knew that they weren’t being compensated the way they ought to have been
compensated. Because I went in with the love of my nephew whom I loved, who’s
five months old. I treasured him. And I knew, taking my little nephew into the child care centre, I knew those child care providers, those
directors were going to take wonderful care of my nephew. I knew that.
I
also knew that they weren’t being paid enough, you know. And that’s so sad when
we talk about affordability, you know, we’re talking about that. And many of
our child care workers, child care folks that work in
this area, it’s hard for them to make ends meet. You know, it’s hard for them
to make ends meet.
And
I think that it’s important for us as legislatures, especially when we’re
presenting legislation trying to . . . under the guise of making life
more easier, we have to look at the processes we’ve
set in place. And the processes we set in place sometimes get in the way of actually doing the right thing.
So
I won’t speak any more on that. I’m sure that others will weigh in on this and
add their remarks in here. So with that, Mr. Speaker,
I move to adjourn debate on Bill 143, The Child Care Amendment Act, 2023.
miigwech.
The Speaker:
— The member has moved to adjourn debate. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to
adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
The Speaker:
— Carried.
[The
Assembly resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon. Mr.
Merriman that Bill No. 144 — The
Police (Miscellaneous) Amendment Act, 2023 be now read a second time.]
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina Walsh Acres.
Mr.
Clarke: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
It’s good to be back on my feet to discuss Bill 144. You know, a number of my
colleagues have put forth a number of rationale as to
why we have problems with this Act. Most importantly I think, you know, we
don’t understand or we haven’t heard a clear,
compelling reason why we need the marshals service in general.
So
I know the critic for Justice is eager to ask some more questions during
committee to the minister. And so with that we are
willing to allow this bill to move on to the next stage.
The Speaker:
— The question before the Assembly is the motion by the minister that Bill
No. 144, The Police (Miscellaneous) Amendment Act, 2023 be now read
a second time. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
The Speaker:
— Carried.
Deputy Clerk:
— Second reading of this bill.
The Speaker:
— To which committee shall this bill be committed? I recognize the Government
House Leader.
Hon. Mr. J. Harrison:
— Intergovernmental Affairs and Justice.
The Speaker:
— This bill now stands committed to the Standing Committee on Intergovernmental
Affairs and Justice.
[The
Assembly resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon. Ms.
Eyre that Bill No. 145 — The
Funeral and Cremation Services (Legal Decision-Maker Protection) Amendment Act,
2023 be now read a second time.]
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina Douglas Park.
Ms.
Sarauer: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s my honour to rise today and enter
into the debate on Bill No. 145. Now I’ve already had the
opportunity to put my thoughts on this bill on the record. I know I’m looking
forward to having a conversation with the minister about this at committee. In order to facilitate that work, I’m prepared now to allow
this bill to move on to its next stage.
The Speaker:
— The question before the Assembly is the motion by the minister that Bill
No. 145 be now read a second time. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to
adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
The Speaker:
— Carried.
Deputy Clerk:
— Second reading of this bill.
The Speaker:
— To which committee shall this bill be committed? I recognize the Government
House Leader.
Hon. Mr. J. Harrison:
— Intergovernmental Affairs and Justice.
The Speaker:
— This bill stands committed to the Standing Committee on Intergovernmental
Affairs and Justice.
[The
Assembly resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon. Ms.
Eyre that Bill No. 146 — The King’s Bench
Consequential Amendments Act, 2023 be now read a second time.]
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Saskatoon Meewasin.
Mr. Teed:
— Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. It’s an honour to be on my feet again
speaking to Bill No. 146,
The King’s Bench Consequential Amendments Act. As my colleague
mentioned, I’ve also spoken to this bill looking to replace Queen’s Bench
rules, regulations Act with King’s Bench. Many a good thought and comment on
the bill really looking at how deeply the Crown and Her Majesty is so deeply
baked into our legal system.
I
know that our critic will have more questions to ask in committee, so at this
time I am willing to allow this bill to move on to its next stage.
The Speaker:
— The question before the Assembly is the motion by the minister that Bill
No. 146, The King’s Bench Consequential Amendments Act, 2023 be now
read a second time. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
The Speaker:
— Carried.
Deputy Clerk:
— Second reading of this bill.
The Speaker:
— To which committee shall this bill be committed? I recognize the Government
House Leader.
Hon. Mr. J. Harrison:
— To the Standing Committee on Intergovernmental Affairs and Justice.
The Speaker:
— This bill stands committed to the Standing Committee on Intergovernmental
Affairs and Justice.
[The
Assembly resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon. Ms.
Eyre that Bill No. 148 — The
Film Content Information Act be now read a second time.]
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Saskatoon Centre.
Ms. Nippi-Albright:
— miigwech, Mr. Speaker. I’m pleased to enter into
debate on this bill, the film contact information Act.
What I gather from the short notice I had to review it, it is replacing the
2016 film and video classification Act. So the public
has to be informed about the classification of the film, you know, whether it
has some violence in there or if it’s PG [parental guidance] rated, etc.
Also
the films must provide the audience with the ability to contact the film
creator for questions or to make complaints, and also that the director of the
film content shall be appointed to perform duties of fulfilling and enforcing
this Act or any other Act. So basically it is giving
the authority to the director or other authorized entity to investigate films
for the purpose of enforcing this Act without a warrant as well as with a
warrant, and it establishes penalties for non-compliance.
I
guess when I think about this I think, you know, it’s unfortunate that the Sask Party had . . . I wish they would have shown
more care for filmmakers as theatre owners before they gutted the film tax
credit. You know, when they gutted that, I heard from a lot of folks as many,
many, many people that I know relied, relied on that. And we saw a large group
of people leave the province when that film tax credit was gutted.
Now
I guess the question I have here and others would have
is, how broad will this Act be able to enforce film regulations? For example,
can it apply to films viewed over the internet? You know, like I remember when
we watched movies, films on those big wind-up machines in the ’70s where those
big reels . . . and then moved to the Beta machine, then the VCR
[videocassette recorder] machine, the DVDs [digital versatile disc]. And then
now you can watch movies over the internet, which I haven’t. I’m not
techie-savvy. But I really need to, once I figure that out, maybe look at that.
But
here I guess it’s a good question to ask: how far of a reach is this? Will it
also be inclusive of films that are shown on the internet, over the internet? So I don’t have much more to add to this, so I’m prepared,
Mr. Speaker, to move adjourned debate on Bill 148, The Film Content
Information Act.
The Speaker:
— The member has moved to adjourn debate. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to
adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
The Speaker:
— Carried.
[The
Assembly resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon. Ms.
Eyre that Bill No. 149 — The
Franchise Disclosure Act be now read a second time.]
The Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina University.
Ms. A. Young:
— Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. A pleasure to enter debate on Bill
No. 149, The Franchise Disclosure Act. My understanding is that
this piece of legislation is looking to regulate and address the imbalance
between franchisees and franchisors, Mr. Speaker.
My
understanding from some of the outreach being done by the critic on this file
and comments of other members that we’re the only province in Western Canada
not to have a piece of legislation like this establishing some of the
obligations of the franchisors around information disclosure to prospective
franchisees.
Mr.
Speaker, you know, I think it’s also important to recognize that this bill
enshrines the rights of franchisees to associate with other franchisees and
allows them to form and join organizations, which I think is important, Mr.
Speaker. Often when we discuss local businesses, we neglect to think of
franchisees in our city who do really good work, Mr. Speaker, with the
community and often with their employees and their surrounding neighbourhoods.
Another
example in part of some of the struggling small businesses, with 8,000 in the
province right now facing closure potentially and struggling with the reality
of increased costs, of inflation, of increased transportation costs, power
bills — all of these things that are unfortunately
being piled on to our struggling small business sector, Mr. Speaker.
But
The Franchise Disclosure Act itself is a new bill, an important piece of
legislation. I look forward to the discussion of the critic at committee, and I
know we will continue to do important outreach on this file. And with that, Mr.
Speaker, I move to adjourn debate on Bill No. 149.
The Speaker:
— The member has moved to adjourn debate. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to
adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
The Speaker:
— Carried.
[The
Assembly resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon. Ms. Eyre that Bill No. 150 — The Securities (Saskatchewan Investors
Protection) Amendment Act, 2023 be
now read a second time.]
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina Rosemont.
Mr.
Wotherspoon: — Mr. Speaker, it’s a pleasure to weigh in, albeit
briefly here today, with respect to Bill No. 150, The Securities
(Saskatchewan Investors Protection) Amendment Act, 2023. Mr. Speaker, it’s
always important for government to be doing its part on appropriate and needed
regulation, Mr. Speaker, to ensure that capital markets have the integrity that
all investors need and deserve, to make sure that they’re well-functioning.
[15:15]
Mr. Speaker, we know that that’s a critical role,
for government to be acting and making sure that the appropriate bodies have
the powers and the authorities to act on these fronts, Mr. Speaker, to make
sure in this case that we’re protecting Saskatchewan investors and of course
investors right across the country and around the world. We need to make sure
that those securities that relate to Saskatchewan, that are housed within
Saskatchewan, that there’s integrity to those investments.
In this case, I understand that this has been a call
from the Canadian Securities Administrators, Mr. Speaker. I also understand,
based on the minister’s comments, that this would align us or harmonize us with
the other provinces across Canada. Certainly we will
pursue further responses and clarification on those fronts at the committee
stage, Mr. Speaker.
What I see
here as well is that this assigns greater powers and processes for dispute
resolution and enforcement, Mr. Speaker, while increasing penalty for violation from $100,000 to a
million dollars, Mr. Speaker. Certainly we need to
make sure that penalties are sufficient to appropriately penalize and serve as
a disincentive to fraudulent bad actors in the securities world, Mr. Speaker. I
understand that this houses this responsibility with the Ombudsman for Banking
Services and Investments, OBSI, Mr. Speaker.
We do have questions as we go
through committee. We are working with stakeholders on this front. And we would
invite anyone with expertise in this area, anyone directly impacted, anyone
that’s a direct stakeholder, to share their perspective. We would be looking
for every opportunity to strengthen legislation and make sure that our capital
markets are well-functioning and that investors are protected to make sure that
they have integrity to them, Mr. Speaker.
There is, you know, some
questions around how vague some aspects of this legislation are, Mr. Speaker.
Questions as well about adequacy of the tools for enforcement, Mr. Speaker. So
those are questions we’ll pursue in due course at committee, but questions we
pose out to the investment community and to all stakeholders, those with
expertise, and invite their responses to our critic, the critic for Justice, on
these fronts, Mr. Speaker, to inform us and to allow us to make sure that we do
justice to this piece of legislation, Mr. Speaker.
With that being said, I would
move to adjourn debate.
The
Speaker:
— The member has moved to adjourn debate. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to
adopt the motion?
Some
Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
The
Speaker:
— Carried.
[The Assembly resumed the
adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon. Ms. Eyre that Bill No. 152 — The Protection From Human Trafficking (Coerced Debts) Amendment Act, 2023
be
now read a second time.]
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina Coronation Park.
Mr.
Burki:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is my pleasure to be entering into the debate on Bill 152, protection human trafficking amendment Act, 2023.
Mr. Speaker, it’s not only
the provincial things that trafficking we are looking into, but it is
international as well. But our colleagues on our side, they talked about that
in detail and they discussed in a few sessions over
here. Our MLA from Saskatoon Meewasin, Eastview, and
Regina University, they talked about that in detail about that. It is not a
very simple issue. It is really complex, multi-tier,
multi-level, so we have to make sure.
And I’m greatly thankful to
the minister and their team for putting those kind of bills
together, amendment into that with the passage of time so we can protect our
vulnerable communities, especially kids, women. And on our side
we are very strong advocates every day for vulnerable people in our
communities.
So we have to make sure when we
think something, it should be protection, vulnerable kids protection, to make
sure that people are not being affected by those people. And I know people will
suffer and will be suffered, and we should have to provide them some adequate
resources just in case they want to get rid or are being trapped into those kind of gangs or groups, so they are taking advantage
of vulnerable people. They should have all the support to be getting rid of
them as well.
So with that I will adjourn the
debate on Bill 152, the protection from human trafficking amendment Act, 2023.
The
Speaker:
— The member has moved to adjourn debate. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to
adopt the motion?
Some
Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
The
Speaker:
— Carried.
[The Assembly resumed the
adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon. Mr. McMorris that Bill No. 153 — The Miscellaneous
Municipal Statutes Amendment Act, 2023 be now read a second time.]
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Saskatoon Eastview.
Mr.
Love:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’ll be brief for my comments today on Bill 153. I
think this is our last piece of legislation before the Assembly today, so I
won’t take too long. I won’t take it till 5 p.m. as my seatmate has encouraged
me to do, but maybe a couple minutes if you’ll indulge me.
So The Miscellaneous
Municipal Statutes Amendment Act of 2023. I heard the comments from
the minister and I’ve spent some time looking into
these amendments. I understand there’s some changes coming here to three
different Acts that govern our most local form of government in terms of our
RMs, our rural and urban municipalities.
And I’ll take a minute to
just say thank you to all those folks that engage at that level of government.
We often see people here, Mr. Speaker, and in your gallery — leaders, reeves,
councillors, mayors from around the province — who come here to watch these
proceedings. And we know that that we need to have a great relationship between
those levels of government.
And I know in my critic areas
that I’ve held over my first few years here, Mr. Speaker, how much I’ve enjoyed
engaging with those kinds of leaders, whether it’s reeves and councillors and
mayors talking about maybe struggles in accessing health care in their
communities or concerns that they have on all sorts of other issues, how
incredibly valued their work is here by members on both sides of the Assembly.
I don’t want to say too much
without expressing my appreciation to all those folks who take on that elected
role as well as all the folks who are working behind the scenes — the CAOs
[chief administrative officer] and the staff who keep our RMs, our towns,
villages, resort villages, municipalities running around the province.
These changes, these
amendments here, just a few questions that I might have that we’ll continue to
canvass, and I know our critic for municipal affairs will have more to say
about this. But just wanting to know that stakeholders have been thoroughly
consulted; wanting to know who brought forward some of these changes, in
particular the term changes that are included here related to terms on boards
for members; how hamlets are organized; the reduction of inactivity from two
years down to one year; and just wondering kind of who brought forward these requests.
Also of interest is allowing for
virtual meetings of councils while still requiring them to provide an in-person
viewing. And we have to wonder in the opposition if
this is perhaps due to the areas in our province where broadband internet isn’t
available, and so folks would need to come to a central location to watch that
virtual council meeting take place.
So those are some of the
things that we’re wondering, but we’ll continue to listen to the debate from my
colleagues in opposition. And our critic I know will be talking to folks about
this, but at this time I’ll move that we adjourn debate on Bill 153. Thank you.
The
Speaker:
— The member has moved to adjourn debate. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to
adopt the motion?
Some
Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
The
Speaker:
— Carried. I recognize the Government House Leader.
Hon.
Mr. J. Harrison:
— In order to facilitate the work of committee this afternoon, I move that this
House do now adjourn.
The
Speaker:
— The member has moved to adjourn the House. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly
to adopt the motion?
Some
Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
The
Speaker:
— Carried. This House now stands adjourned until 1:30 tomorrow.
[The Assembly adjourned at 15:25.]
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