CONTENTS
Honouring the Legacy of
Louis Riel
Saskatchewan United
Party Offers Conservative Option
Government’s Record on
Economic Growth
Public Servant Receives
Emergency Management Exemplary Service Award
New Youth Centre Will
Serve Buffalo River Dene Nation
Saskatoon Resident
Recognized for Volunteerism
Collaboration and
Connection within Pacific NorthWest Economic Region
Health Care Staffing
and Management of Health Care System
Emergency Hotel Stays
Paid by Social Services
Government Attendance
at Conference of Parties 28
Fuel Tax and
Government’s Fiscal Management
Provision of Health
Care Services
Bill
No. 151 — The SaskEnergy (Carbon Tax
Fairness for Families) Amendment Act, 2023
Saskatchewan’s Economy
and Federal Energy Policies
Motion No. 2 — Suspension of Provincial Fuel Tax
FOURTH
SESSION — TWENTY-NINTH LEGISLATURE
of
the
Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan
DEBATES
AND PROCEEDINGS
(HANSARD)
N.S. Vol. 65 No. 13A Thursday,
November 16, 2023, 10:00
[Prayers]
The
Speaker:
— I would just like to welcome all our guests. It’s great to have so many
people not only from school groups and citizens, but also I’d take this
opportunity to welcome the delegates from PNWER
[Pacific NorthWest Economic Region]. You’ll be
formally introduced later. So welcome, everyone.
I’ll just give you a bit of a heads-up.
You’re not allowed to take part in any of the proceedings. That includes
clapping or talking or taking photos or videos. So please enjoy your stay.
Thank you very much.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Kindersley.
Mr.
Francis:
— I request leave for an extended introduction, Mr. Speaker.
The
Speaker:
— The request for extended introduction. Agreed?
Some
Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
The
Speaker:
— Carried.
Mr.
Francis:
— Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you, I’d like to
introduce a very large contingent of colleagues from the Pacific NorthWest Economic Region, far too numerous to mention
individually, so forgive me for that. But I’d like to highlight a few that I’ve
gotten to know quite well as I sit on the executive and have attended many
meetings and conferences such as the one we’re hosting in Regina this week.
First we have Matt Morrison, executive
director. Please give a wave. His team: Brandon Hardenbrook,
Rachael Kopp, Tara Edens, Brigette Burwell, Nate
Weigel, and Steve Myers. I don’t think I missed anybody. Hi, guys. They’ve done
so much work in preparing for this week, as have the team at Trade and Export
Development. Scott Hunter is here, Carley Hannan, Moises Ferreira. Thanks,
guys, for all your support in putting this conference on.
Mr. Speaker, we also have from the
executive, Rick Glumac, current president of PNWER. He’s the MLA [Member of the Legislative Assembly]
for Port Moody-Coquitlam in BC [British Columbia].
And we have some other good neighbours
to the west, some of them sitting behind the bar here. We have UCP [United Conservative Party] MLA Shane Getson, Garth Rowswell, Chantelle
de Jonge, Justin Wright. And supporting them this
week is David Kettles from the Ministry of Trade in Alberta.
We also have some folks from the great
state of Alaska. I think we have Kevin McCabe.
Several folks from Montana: the
husband-and-wife team of State Representatives Steven Galloway and his wife,
Lola Sheldon-Galloway; Mark Blasdel, economic
development director from the Governor’s office in Montana; and Senator Mark
Noland.
And of course, Mr. Speaker, last but not
least, no stranger to the Saskatchewan legislature — and if you’ve ever met him
once, you’ll never forget him — retired senator John Brenden. And his extremely
patient and lovely wife is accompanying him on this trip, but she can only take
so much of John as well, so she opted out of today’s proceedings. But these
folks live just a couple hours south of Regina here, in Scobey. Strong ties and
affection for this province, Mr. Speaker.
It is great to see all our guests. I’ll
have more to say about PNWER and this delegation in
an upcoming member’s statement, but for now I would ask that all members join
me in welcoming this group of PNWER delegates to
Regina and our provincial legislature. Thank you.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina University.
Ms.
A. Young:
— Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you and to all members
in this Assembly, I’d like to join with the member opposite in just adding on
to that wonderful introduction that he just did and extend a warm welcome on
behalf of the official opposition to everyone here for this wonderful visit
that we’re able to host from you good folks at PNWER.
I’d like to join with the member from Kindersley who I know is quite passionate
about the work that he’s undertaken in working with this organization. Mr.
Morrison, folks from TED [Trade and Export Development], thank you so much for
all the work that you’ve done to facilitate this.
And to every delegate here, thank you so
much for coming to Saskatchewan. As a local Regina MLA, welcome to the city.
Thank you for spending your time here, spending your money in the local
economy, hopefully having a wonderful visit with some seasonably decent weather
I should say. And I really just want to extend on behalf of the official
opposition our thanks for coming here, learning about Saskatchewan, and
enjoying yourselves so thoroughly.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Athabasca.
Mr.
Lemaigre: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On behalf of
the Athabasca constituency, every year a good percentage of the people from
Athabasca take up a pilgrimage into Lac Ste Anne. And last year was a big year
for us when we attended and the Pope visited and apologized for their part in
the residential school.
And I just wanted to say, while he’s
here, thank you to MLA Shane Getson for being part of
that day and for showing his support. It means a tremendous amount to the
people of Athabasca, and I just wanted to acknowledge that your contribution
and your acceptance and your host was greatly appreciated. So thank you.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Corrections, Policing and Public Safety.
Hon.
Mr. Merriman:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today we have a large contingent here from the
Saskatchewan Public Safety Agency in your gallery. This year was an exceptional
year for wildfires, and every one of these individuals performed admirably in
their duties to protect Saskatchewan’s residents. While there are only a few
individuals with us today, all the staff from the Saskatchewan Public Safety
Agency deserve a big thanks from all of us for what they do.
However we do have one special
individual here with us today. Ray Unrau is the
director of emergency planning and preparedness for the Saskatchewan public
agency and has spent over 40 years in his career giving to others. This year
Ray was awarded the Emergency Management Exemplary Service Award for
Outstanding Contribution to Emergency Management. This was a well-deserved
national recognition that we are all proud to see you receive, Ray. Thank you
for your years of service and dedication to the people of Saskatchewan.
I would like all members to join me in
congratulating Ray on this amazing award. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina Douglas Park.
Ms.
Sarauer:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s my honour to join with the minister opposite in
welcoming this delegation from the Saskatchewan Public Safety Agency here
today. First of all, thank you to all of you for all that you do every single
day in many different ways keeping Saskatchewan safe, in particular — as had
been mentioned by the minister — with respect to the unprecedented amount of
wildfires we’ve been seeing in Saskatchewan lately. Thank you so much for your
work.
And a particular thanks goes to Ray for
his many decades of service to this province, for being recognized in this way
that you have. The Emergency Management Exemplary Service Award brings honour
to all of us as Saskatchewan residents for the work that you’ve done. So thank you
so much for that. Thank you all for your continued service, and once again I
ask all members to join me in welcoming them to their Legislative Assembly.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Rural and Remote Health.
Hon.
Mr. T. McLeod:
— Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you, it’s my great
honour to introduce another large contingent that we have in the Assembly
today, and that’s 45 grade 6, 7, and 8 students from Lindale Elementary, seated
behind me in the east gallery, Mr. Speaker.
The students here from Lindale School
are accompanied by their teachers Ivy Sheward and
Crystal Cameron. Mr. Speaker, it’s always a great pleasure when we have
students joining us in the Assembly. I do want to single out one — I hope I
don’t embarrass him — but Kane Osmar is one of the
students up there, Mr. Speaker. And Kane’s dad, Sean Osmar,
is no stranger to this Assembly as he worked in the government caucus office
for a number of years.
I look forward to meeting with this
group after question period, Mr. Speaker, and I would ask all members to join
me in welcoming them to this, their Legislative Assembly.
The
Speaker:
— I would also like to welcome Ivy Sheward and her
class. Ivy was a participant in the Saskatchewan Teachers’ Institute on Parliamentary
Democracy in 2022 and was selected to be a member of the steering committee
beginning this year. The steering committee works with my office, Social
Studies Saskatchewan, and the Ministry of Education to host the SSTI [Saskatchewan Social Sciences Teachers’ Institute on
Parliamentary Democracy] each year. SSTI will take
place from April 27th to May 1st. Thank you, Ivy, for your dedication to the SSTI program. And please join me in welcoming Ms. Sheward and her students to their Legislative Assembly.
I recognize the Minister of Parks,
Culture and Sport.
Hon.
Ms. L. Ross:
— Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to introduce to you and through
you, seated in the Speaker’s gallery, some very special guests. In October the
Regina Globe Theatre opened their 2023‑24 season, and we’re so grateful
to have some members of the Globe Theatre joining us today. Seated in your
gallery, I’d like to have all members join me in welcoming Chair of the board
Lisa McIntyre — give us a wave, Lisa; artistic director Jennifer Brewin — I can
hardly see them behind the clock there; and executive director Jaime Boldt.
These are some extraordinary women whose passion for arts in our communities
shines through in the work they do every day.
Founded in 1966, the Globe Theatre was
Saskatchewan’s first professional theatre company and continues to be a
highlight of our city and our province for residents. The Globe Theatre is
currently undergoing a major renovation project in the Prince Edward Building
in downtown Regina. I was lucky enough to attend a recent Globe Theatre show
called Blind Date. The show was so well done. It was wonderful to see so
many people out enjoying the evening.
Theatre not only provides entertainment
but enriches our quality of life, allows our audience to connect with a diverse
array of stories and characters. So thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Please,
for everyone, please enjoy what the Globe Theatre has to offer. Thank you so
much.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina University.
Ms.
A. Young:
— Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you to all members, I’d
like to join with the minister opposite in welcoming — she’s right — these
truly astonishing women to this legislature. It’s such a treat to see you here.
I thought you were just maybe here for a professional excursion, just an
outing, just to pop in and see what the House of democracy is doing. But a real
pleasure to see you up in the gallery.
Mr. Speaker, as was said, Lisa,
Jennifer, and Jaime just do such extraordinary work navigating just a real wild
storm of the past few years, between operating the theatre throughout the
pandemic, trying to figure out what that looked like; a massive renovation
project that’s really going to reshape Regina’s downtown. And everything that
accompanies that from working with stakeholders to . . . We all know
the changing cost of things in this environment, and what you do as such an
important cultural institution trying to navigate all of that, keep it all
together, and still put on just world-class experiences and performances, not
just for audiences who call Regina home but for people across the province and
across the country and the world, to come and enjoy just an outstanding level
of culture here in Regina.
I want to join with the minister in
thanking you for the work that you do, not just as professionals but as real
leaders here in the community who make this place a richer, better, and just
all around more stupendous place to live. So I’d like to ask all members to join
me in welcoming these three leaders to their Assembly.
The
Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina Pasqua.
Mr. Fiaz: — Thank you,
Mr. Speaker. I rise to present the petition.
[10:15]
We, the
undersigned residents of the province of Saskatchewan, wish to bring to your
attention the following: whereas the Trudeau Liberal-NDP [New Democratic Party]
coalition carbon tax is one of the main causes of affordability issues and inflation
in the nation of Canada; and that the federal government has signalled that the
carbon tax does affect Canadians differently by issuing an exemption on home
heating oil for Atlantic Canadian provinces; further that the people of
Saskatchewan, 85 per cent of whom rely on natural gas to heat their homes, are
unfairly left without support by the Liberal-NDP coalition who continue to
drive up the cost of living with their price on carbon tax.
We,
in the prayer that reads as follows, respectfully request that the Legislative
Assembly of Saskatchewan take the following action: to call upon the Government
of Canada to immediately remove the carbon tax from all home heating costs
across Canada to reduce inflation and drive down the rising cost of living
faced by all Canadians from coast to coast.
This petition has been signed by Regina
and Saskatoon. I so present, Mr. Speaker.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member for Saskatoon Fairview.
Ms.
Mowat:
— Mr. Speaker, I rise once again today to present a petition to the Legislative
Assembly of Saskatchewan calling for improved mental health services for
northern and rural Saskatchewan.
These citizens wish to bring to our
attention that the rate of suicide among Indigenous people is three times
higher than that of non-Indigenous people; that suicide rates of Indigenous
people living on-reserve are twice as high as those living off-reserve, and
that the historical and ongoing impacts of colonization, displacement; and
intergenerational trauma are related to the high rates of suicide among Indigenous
people.
We,
in the prayer that reads as follows, respectfully request that the Legislative
Assembly of Saskatchewan call on the Government of Saskatchewan to address and
work with vulnerable communities in the North and rural areas and to provide
adequate mental health funding and services for northern and rural Indigenous
communities.
This is signed today by individuals from
Saskatoon and Warman, Mr. Speaker. I do so present.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina University.
Ms.
A. Young:
— Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to present a petition to the
Legislative Assembly calling for the funding of in vitro fertilization
treatments here in Saskatchewan.
Mr. Speaker, the signatories of this
petition wish to bring to our attention the following: one in six people in
Canada will experience a struggle with infertility, and IVF [in vitro
fertilization] treatments, as all members know, can be prohibitively expensive
with one cycle costing upwards of $10,000. That’s before travel. That’s before
drugs. That’s before any of those other additional costs that make this
financial burden so real. And that says nothing about the emotional struggle
that too many people are going through.
Despite public health care being a
right, there is no government financial support in Saskatchewan for those
requiring fertility treatments, despite the fact that other provinces in Canada
have undertaken to cover this.
Saskatchewan people’s ability to
conceive should not depend on their socio-economic status, Mr. Speaker. And it
makes sense — it makes emotional sense, moral sense, and economic sense — to
invest in people here in Saskatchewan who want to grow their families here in
Saskatchewan, add to our population numbers.
I’ll read the prayer, Mr. Speaker:
We,
in the prayer that reads as follows, respectfully request the Government of
Saskatchewan immediately move to cover the financial burden of two rounds of
IVF treatments for Saskatchewan people experiencing infertility.
The signatories of this petition today
reside in White City and Lumsden. I do so present.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina Walsh Acres.
Mr. Clarke: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today
to present our petition calling on the government to address the affordability
crisis. The undersigned residents would like to bring to our attention the
following: that inflation is the highest it’s been in more than three decades;
that half of Saskatchewan residents were living paycheque to paycheque before
transportation and food costs skyrocketed in 2022; and that the Sask Party government’s 32 new taxes and fee hikes make
life more expensive, all while harming struggling industries like tourism,
culture, and fitness.
Mr. Speaker, in Regina Walsh Acres I’ve
heard it door after door after door that this is the number one issue for
citizens in my constituency. We’ve heard it across this province on door after
door that this is the number one issue for Saskatchewan people, and the
government is not doing enough to help people of this province address the
affordability crisis.
I’ll read the prayer, Mr. Speaker:
We,
in the prayer that reads as follows, respectfully request the Legislative
Assembly of Saskatchewan call on the Government of Saskatchewan to meaningfully
address the affordability crisis in Saskatchewan.
Mr. Speaker, the signatories today
reside in Regina. I do so present.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina Douglas Park.
Ms.
Sarauer:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise yet again today to present another petition
calling for the improvement of labour laws in Saskatchewan.
Those who’ve signed this petition wish
to bring to our attention the following: that even after the October 1st
increase, Saskatchewan’s minimum wage remains the lowest in Canada at $14 an
hour. In addition the official opposition has been calling for paid sick leave
for several years now. We’re asking for 10 paid sick days each year and 14 days
during a public health crisis. Paid sick leave has been proven to save
employers money while making workplaces healthier and safer for all the
workers.
In addition, Mr. Speaker, 71 per cent of
workers in Canada have experienced workplace violence and/or harassment — truly
horrific, Mr. Speaker. In 2023 the Canadian Bar Association at their AGM
[annual general meeting] adopted a resolution discouraging the use of
nondisclosure agreements to silence whistle-blowers and victims of abuse,
discrimination, and harassment in the workplace. And much more needs to be done
to ensure that workplaces in Saskatchewan are safe and harassment-free.
I’d like to read the prayer:
We,
in the prayer that reads as follows, respectfully request the Legislative
Assembly of Saskatchewan call on the Government of Saskatchewan to improve
conditions for Saskatchewan workers by passing legislation to increase the
minimum wage, guarantee paid sick leave, limit nondisclosure agreements which
could silence survivors of workplace harassment, and require employers to track
and report incidents of violence and harassment in the workplace.
The individuals signing this petition
today come from Spiritwood, Melfort, and Regina. I do so present.
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina Elphinstone-Centre.
Ms. Conway:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As we gather on this Louis Riel Day, we honour the
profound impact and lasting legacy of the great revolutionary Louis Riel, a
visionary leader whose tireless dedication shaped the very essence of
Saskatchewan. Riel’s unwavering commitment to justice and advocacy for Métis
rights not only transformed history but also carved a path towards inclusivity
and recognition of diverse cultures within our province.
Today
as we commemorate his legacy, we recognize the pivotal role Louis Riel played
in the formation of both Manitoba and Saskatchewan. His leadership, despite
adversities, inspires us to embrace diversity and strive for equity and
fairness in our communities.
En
cette Journée Louis Riel, c’est l’occasion de réfléchir à l’impact profond d’un chef visionnaire dont l’influence résonne à travers l’histoire de
la Saskatchewan. Louis Riel, défenseur inflexible de
la justice et des droits du peuple métis, a joué un rôle essentiel
dans la définition de l’identité
de notre province.
Aujourd’hui
en commémorant son héritage, nous reconnaissons le rôle crucial de Louis Riel dans la formation du Manitoba et
de la Saskatchewan. Son leadership malgré les adversités
nous inspire à embrasser la diversité
et à œuvrer pour l’équité
et la justice dans nos communautés.
Sa vision pour une société
plus juste continue de résonner.
Merci.
[Translation:
On this Louis Riel Day, we have the opportunity to reflect upon the profound
impact of a visionary leader whose influence echoes throughout the history of
Saskatchewan. Louis Riel, unyielding defender of justice and the rights of the
Métis people, played an essential role in establishing the identity of our
province.
Today
in commemorating his legacy, we recognize the pivotal role of Louis Riel in the
formation of Manitoba and Saskatchewan. His leadership, despite adversities,
inspires us to embrace diversity and to strive for equity and fairness in our
communities. His vision of a more just society continues to resonate. Thank
you.]
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Saskatchewan Rivers.
Ms.
Wilson:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am proud to say my party, the Sask
United Party, is working hard for the Saskatchewan people, giving them a
conservative option for this province. We are actively changing politics in
this province with town hall meetings, door-to-door campaigns, and giving the
people a voice in this Assembly. We have successfully brought about action on
parental rights and are moving the needle on taxation, net zero, health care,
and crime.
In my conversations with former
colleagues on that side of the Assembly, it’s clear that some of them want
change too. Mr. Speaker, I would say to them, you are welcome to join me on
this side of the Assembly to be with a party that is about change, to be with a
party that is about action, that is fighting for the Saskatchewan people. Thank
you, Mr. Speaker.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina University.
Ms.
A. Young:
— Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Last week when StatsCan released its 2022
GDP [gross domestic product] number, this government was able to point to a
single solid year of economic growth for the first time in five years. Yet as
usual they were afraid to place the number in the context of their five-year
record. So let’s do so, shall we?
Over the last five years, real GDP has
only grown by 1.82 per cent or, on average, 0.36 per cent per year; this
government has the second-lowest rate of GDP growth in Canada; and the economy
has contracted in three of the last five years.
But, Mr. Speaker, the record gets even
worse when you look at the details. Over the last five years, the record of
this Premier is that six critical sectors of our economy have actually shrunk:
mining, quarrying, oil and gas extraction down 4.08 per cent; construction down
19.73 per cent; transportation and warehousing down 9.57 per cent; management
of companies and enterprises down a whopping 76.28 per cent; accommodation and
food services down 12.94 per cent; administration support, waste management,
remediation down 10.84 per cent, Mr. Speaker.
If you don’t believe me, check with
Statistics Canada. Because, boy oh boy, Mr. Speaker, is that a contraction that
works for anyone?
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Last Mountain-Touchwood.
Mr.
Keisig: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am pleased
to recognize Ray Unrau. Mr. Unrau
is a leader in our province who has dedicated his career to making communities
safer. Mr. Unrau has spent the last 40 years of his
career giving others tools, resources, and supports that reduce the impact of
emergencies.
His career began as an EMT [emergency
medical technician]. In the ’90s he joined the
Saskatoon Fire Department and transferred to the Emergency Management Organization
within the city. In 2017 Mr. Unrau brought his
expertise to the Saskatchewan Public Safety Agency, where he is currently the
director of emergency planning and preparedness.
Following an earthquake that left
500,000 residents homeless and caused over 25,000 deaths in Armenia in 1988,
Mr. Unrau led a private rescue team in that country.
He designed and integrated the city of Saskatoon’s emergency operation centre,
and he led Saskatchewan’s first-ever provincial emergency exercise. Mr. Unrau helps communities prepare a clear path forward when
they are facing the most chaotic of circumstances.
In September Mr. Unrau
was awarded the Emergency Management Exemplary Service Award for Outstanding
Contribution to Emergency Management. Please join me in thanking Mr. Unrau for his commitment to emergency management and
congratulating him on this very prestigious award. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Athabasca.
Mr.
Lemaigre: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It was my
pleasure and honour on September 5th to be at the groundbreaking
ceremony for the Buffalo River Dene Nation new youth centre, along with the
Premier and the Minister of Mental Health and Addictions and Rural Health. This
youth centre will become the heart of the community, a place where people can
gather to share good times with friends and family, a place where our young
people can learn, grow, and thrive, a place where creativity and innovation
flourish in an environment that honours tradition and culture.
Our government is investing more than
587,000 in provincial funding towards the building of this youth centre under
the Investing in Canada Infrastructure Program. Once completed, the new
spacious youth centre will offer a wide variety of programs and services to the
community. The teachings that will be offered here — wellness, leadership, and
recreation — will guide and strengthen our youth.
Mr. Speaker, Chief Catarat
acknowledged that this is the first time in the history of Buffalo River Dene
Nation that a premier has visited her community. I would ask all members to
join me in celebrating the groundbreaking of the
youth centre and for the good work the community of Buffalo River Dene Nation
is doing for the youth in the community. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Saskatoon Westview.
Mr.
Buckingham:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Saskatoon has always been blessed with many amazing
volunteers and community leaders, and today I’m proud to recognize the work of
just one of those individuals. At the 69th B’nai Brith
Lodge dinner, Bob Jeanneau, former boss for the member
from Saskatoon Southeast, was recognized with the 2023 We Are Proud of You
Award for his decades of volunteerism and community spirit.
Bob’s journey of volunteerism began many
years ago when he joined the Knights of Columbus. For the next three decades,
Bob would play a pivotal role in the Lucky Horseshoe Bingo, raising funds for
various community projects. One of Bob’s most significant contributions in
Saskatoon was his leadership in the development of the Columbian Manor, a
faith-based housing complex for seniors.
[10:30]
His commitment to this project spanned
many years. This would see the Manor expand not once but twice, which would
result in the creation of a comprehensive senior living facility that provides
comfort, care, and companionship for those who need it. To this day, Bob
continues to serve as a volunteer responsible for the day-to-day operation of
the Manor. Bob is now 91 and still going strong.
Among Bob’s most significant
contributions, in my opinion, is his granddaughter Jade who is married to my
son. Mr. Speaker, on behalf of the Legislative Assembly, congratulations to Bob
Jeanneau on his lifetime recognition, and thank you
for making Saskatchewan a better place.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Kindersley.
Mr.
Francis:
— Mr. Speaker, many of our colleagues and I have had the great privilege the
last few days of attending the 2023 PNWER Economic
Leadership Forum. We took part in many sessions which ranged from navigating
the Canadian and US [United States] government legislative systems, with your
help, to developing corridors through the Pacific Northwest and so much more.
I’ve had the great pleasure of being
part of PNWER for several years now, and have learned
so much from my experience as Canadian vice-president and Co-Chair of the
agriculture working group. Our goal as part of PNWER
continues to be not only to share our province’s story but to understand what
our shared priorities and visions are and where our goals align.
As a government we have been so grateful
for this opportunity to host this forum once again, this time in our provincial
capital. PNWER is one of our most valued networks,
and we are fortunate to have opportunities such as this to connect and grow.
They play a large role in ensuring we work together to limit barriers on trade.
Without this collaboration and partnership we wouldn’t have the safe,
efficient, and sustainable supply chain we rely on every day.
Building global relationships is
incredibly important to our government, to ensure we can advance international
priorities and strengthen relationships with potential investors. Mr. Speaker,
by working together we are ensuring the entire Northwest region can succeed and
ensuring as always that Saskatchewan is succeeding.
The Speaker: — I
recognize the Deputy Leader of the Opposition.
Ms.
Mowat:
— Mr. Speaker, this tired and out-of-touch government is failing when it comes
to health care. At St. Paul’s Hospital, which serves so many in my
constituency, the long-standing problems with short-staffing and ignoring health
care workers have finally reached a crisis point.
Fire code violations written up by the
fire department because there are so many beds in the hallway that fire exits
are blocked — this is their record. When will the Minister of Health take
responsibility for this government’s mismanagement of health care and apologize
to Saskatchewan patients and health care workers for letting things get so bad
at our major hospitals?
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon.
Mr. Hindley:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And first of all, I want to indicate that we are very
grateful for the excellent work that is being provided by our health care
workers at St. Paul’s Hospital in Saskatoon and right across this province, Mr.
Speaker. And we acknowledge that there are some capacity pressures right now
that’s impacting patient care, and we want to ensure that we are taking the
appropriate steps to be able to address that, Mr. Speaker.
As was indicated by the Premier earlier
this week, the Ministry of Health and the Government of Saskatchewan provides
over $4 billion to the SHA, the Saskatchewan Health Authority, which is
responsible for administering health care in a vast number of communities
across this province.
Mr. Speaker, what you saw earlier this
week was the SHA do a media availability and not only talk about some of the
previous investments that have been made into St. Paul’s Hospital but all
hospitals in Saskatoon to address capacity issues, but also some immediate
steps are going to be taken that are under way right now, in addition to what’s
already been done already, plus 90‑day and longer term solutions as well
to address the issues we are facing in Saskatoon. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the Deputy Leader of the Opposition.
Ms.
Mowat:
— Mr. Speaker, this isn’t a blip. This has been going on for months. And it
shouldn’t have . . . The minister should not have to be shamed
through an open letter from over 100 health care workers before he takes
action.
All they needed to do, Mr. Speaker, was
listen to health care workers who have been calling for solutions for years.
Fix the short-staffing, stop treating patients in hallways, and actually listen
to health care workers. The minister’s plan won’t fix any of these problems,
and health care workers have no faith that this government will actually follow
through on the commitments it made this weekend.
Why won’t the minister listen to health
care workers and implement the solutions that they’re calling for at St. Paul’s
Hospital?
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon.
Mr. Hindley:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And this government takes very seriously the feedback
and the information that we receive from front-line health care providers. We
do it on a regular basis, Mr. Speaker, in meeting with them and, when we have
the opportunity, to tour facilities, to take phone calls and emails from health
care workers.
Mr. Speaker, I’m informed that the SHA
senior leadership regularly visits these facilities, including this past
weekend when senior VPs [vice-president] from the SHA and the CEO [chief
executive officer] himself visited St. Paul’s Hospital to see first-hand and
talk to health care workers, Mr. Speaker.
And when it comes to the work that is
going to be done by the SHA, as I said in my previous answer, there has been
work that has been done, Mr. Speaker: adding 84 more beds into the city of
Saskatoon, providing more fully staffed ambulances into Saskatoon, adding
additional emergency personnel into St. Paul’s Hospital. That has been
previously done, Mr. Speaker. And what was announced this week was more
immediate steps are going to be taken to help increase capacity and improve
patient flow at St. Paul’s Hospital in Saskatoon so that people can get the
health care that they need when they need it, Mr. Speaker.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the Deputy Leader of the Opposition.
Ms.
Mowat:
— The minister’s response does not line up with what we’re hearing from health
care workers, Mr. Speaker.
Let’s review concerns that were raised
in the letter from health care workers. They’re running at 100 per cent over
capacity 100 per cent of the time for months. Patients being treated on hallway
stretchers with almost no privacy. Staff burning out and taking stress leave, making
short-staffing worse. This is the state of the health care system under this
tired and out-of-touch government. They’ve lurched from crisis to crisis, and
things aren’t getting any better after 16 years. They’re getting worse.
How is this building and protecting
Saskatchewan? And how is this growth that works for everyone?
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon.
Mr. Hindley:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Some of the other immediate actions that were
announced this week by the SHA include enhancing weekend staffing in the
Saskatoon hospitals to ensure that patient care transitions are happening, Mr.
Speaker; focusing on the over-capacity protocols; and also adding temporary
emergency department staffing as well — more social workers, more support
workers, security personnel as well — to make sure that we are enhancing that
care, Mr. Speaker.
What we don’t see from the members
opposite — and there has been significant, significant investments by this
government into health care, into things like the Jim Pattison Children’s
Hospital in Saskatoon, new urgent care centres, Mr. Speaker, investments into
paramedicine and to paramedics and EMS [emergency medical services] in
Saskatoon — and what we don’t see from the members opposite, Mr. Speaker, is
what they would do to invest into health care to address some of these
challenges and to build for the future, Mr. Speaker.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina Elphinstone-Centre.
Ms.
Conway:
— Thanks, Mr. Speaker. Here’s a situation that, you know, if we handled it
right we might have some extra dollars going towards health care in this
province. I’m speaking about the Sask Party’s
mismanagement of public funds on a nightly rate of $200 at the Sunrise Motel, a
hotel owned by a Sask Party government member, the
member for Regina Northeast. The hotel rates jumped over 50 per cent once staff
learned that Social Services would be footing the bill — $200 at the Sunrise
Motel, Mr. Speaker.
You know, I took the liberty of cruising
Booking.com last night and invite the viewing public
to do the same. You know how many hotels you can book in Regina for under $200?
All but two, the Marriott and the Sask Hotel.
So yesterday I asked the minister to
table money paid out to the Sunrise Motel every year for the last five years;
the nightly rates charged; all ministry policies around hotel usage, use of
hotels, and payment of hotels. Does the minister have that information today?
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Social Services.
Hon.
Mr. Makowsky: — Mr. Speaker, of course my first
priority, our government’s first priority in emergency situations is looking
after vulnerable clients and finding them a warm and safe place to stay. Using
motels as shelters is a last resort. I would note this has been happening for
many years, including under the previous NDP government. There’s fluctuations
in pricing in hotels based on different circumstances day to day, month to
month, etc.
But bottom line, Mr. Speaker, there’s no
conspiracy here. No matter how desperate the opposition is, we’ll continue to
cover the costs of these emergency situations, and we’ll continue to do so in a
responsible manner, Mr. Speaker.
But I would ask the member opposite,
what price do members opposite put on vulnerable clients? What are they worth
to the NDP?
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina Elphinstone-Centre.
Ms.
Conway:
— We’re asking for transparency, Mr. Speaker, and those are the same lines from
yesterday. How embarrassing. These are basic questions to serious questions,
Mr. Speaker. The Ministry of Health worked through the long weekend to come up
with a solution to St. Paul’s Hospital. The idea that this minister, with the
full backing of the civil service behind him, can’t provide a single answer to
any one of these questions is embarrassing, Mr. Speaker.
In scrums yesterday, the minister said
the ministry pays $150,000 a year for hotels. But that’s just for hotels
through income assistance, isn’t it, Mr. Speaker? This hotel was paid for
through child protection. When are we going to get the amount paid for hotels
through child protection?
The minister keeps saying hotel usage is
going down. Prove it. Stop quoting incomplete numbers. Stop referring to data
you haven’t provided. Will the minister table expenditures on hotels through
both income assistance and child protection . . .
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Social Services.
Hon.
Mr. Makowsky: — Mr. Speaker, yeah, we will endeavour
to get that information in a reasonable amount of time. Officials are working
on that, Mr. Speaker. But again our first priority is our vulnerable clients
out there, Mr. Speaker. We work to try and find those folks a shelter if they
are available; if not, try and find friends and family.
Case workers work on an individual basis
to try and find appropriate accommodations. They look for the best rate
available for that night where there are vacancies, Mr. Speaker. And so there
are fluctuations, as we all know, in hotel prices across the province and
around the world, for example.
But, Mr. Speaker, again there’s no
conspiracy in this case. As I mentioned yesterday, the member in question, it’s
my understanding, does not work or manage that facility. And so the question
for the member opposite: what are these clients . . .
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina Elphinstone-Centre.
Ms.
Conway:
— Mr. Speaker, he’s the minister and this is question period. He’ll provide the
answers today, thank you very much. “We’ll endeavour to find it.” “We’ll look
into it.” “We’ll try.” When are those numbers going to be forthcoming, Mr.
Speaker?
Our priority is vulnerable people. How
did Evelyn Harper find herself homeless to begin with? That government evicted
her, Mr. Speaker.
Another question for the minister: will
he table the missing requisitions? And is it true what the hotel told me and
Evelyn, is that the 200 nightly rate continued for the rest of her stay? We
don’t have those requisitions. We are told they are in California. I don’t
know, Mr. Speaker. Will he table the rest of the requisitions today?
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Social Services.
Hon.
Mr. Makowsky: — Mr. Speaker, we’ll get the
information as soon as we can. But again, Mr. Speaker, we work with clients on
a daily basis. We’ve been able to increase supports for our most vulnerable
citizens when they need help, and that will continue, Mr. Speaker. But again my
concern is our most vulnerable people here in our province, and finding them a
warm place to stay when it happens to be minus 30 out here in Saskatchewan.
It’s unfortunate the NDP is more concerned about scoring political points.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member for Regina Elphinstone-Centre.
Ms.
Conway:
— Mr. Speaker, he can’t even provide the requisitions. These answers are even
worse than yesterday’s answers, Mr. Speaker.
This whole file stinks. When Evelyn
checked into the hotel she was charged $132 a night. When the ministry was
picking up the tab it was jacked up to $200 a night. These are public dollars
and the ministry needs to make sure Saskatchewan people aren’t getting ripped
off.
Reporters asked the minister why there’s
no policy to prevent this from happening. He didn’t have an answer, Mr.
Speaker. So I ask the minister here: why are there no safeguards in place to
ensure taxpayers aren’t getting ripped off, and when is he going to shed some
light on this mess?
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Social Services.
[10:45]
Hon.
Mr. Makowsky: — Mr. Speaker, the ministry, through
caseworkers, works with individuals to try and find the best rate at that night
when individuals are most vulnerable, and that is what happens. In this
particular case, the individual checked in on their own and was not part of the
income assistance situation. So, Mr. Speaker, I will continue to look at this
and endeavour to get the appropriate information the member opposite is looking
for.
But again at the bottom line, we want to
look after, on this side of the House, Mr. Speaker, the most vulnerable people
in a very vulnerable situation, Mr. Speaker, and we will continue to do that.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina Walsh Acres.
Mr. Clarke: — Mr. Speaker, this government is
wasting dollars through inflated hotel prices, and they’re wasting nearly a
million dollars for a pavilion in Dubai. The Premier has been crystal clear
when it comes to his thoughts on climate change — he doesn’t care. But now
that’s not stopping him from forcing Saskatchewan people to pay $765,000 for a
pavilion at a climate change conference.
How does the Sask
Party square that circle, and how do they justify spending so much public money
at a conference about a topic they’ve shown they care so little about?
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Energy and Resources.
Hon.
Mr. Reiter: — Mr. Speaker, the member should get his facts straight.
First of all, that’s not a million dollars on . . . Well apparently
the member isn’t done asking questions yet, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, the pavilion that the
members opposite are referring to, Mr. Speaker, is for promotional and office
space for the 40‑some-plus businesses that are accompanying the Premier
to COP [Conference of Parties], Mr. Speaker, so we can promote the
energy-efficient, the clean-energy companies that we have in this great
province, Mr. Speaker.
Yesterday the member from Walsh Acres
stood on his feet . . . sorry, the other day the member stood on his
feet and said, well why didn’t Saskatchewan just go along with the Canadian
pavilion, Mr. Speaker? Well here’s why: we actually tried that approach, Mr.
Speaker. We asked the federal government. We suggested 10 presentations, panel
presentations that would be done at the pavilion, Mr. Speaker. Nine of the ten
were turned down, Mr. Speaker, presentations such as carbon capture,
sustainable CO2, Mr. Speaker. The list goes on. I hope
there’s more questions, Mr. Speaker.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina Walsh Acres.
Mr. Clarke: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There
certainly are more questions. Saskatchewan people work hard for their money.
They want to see those public dollars spent wisely, not wasted on inflated
hotel prices or on a vanity pavilion in Dubai. They want to see action on
climate change, not a government that says the quiet part out loud: “I don’t
care.” They want to see a government that tells our story but not wasting
nearly a million dollars to do so.
Now the feds are hosting Danielle Smith
for a fireside chat at their pavilion. A fireside chat, and we know that she’s
no fan of the current federal government. Why do we need to pay nearly a
million dollars for a pavilion when the Government of Alberta is fine to attend
with the feds?
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Energy and Resources.
Hon.
Mr. Reiter:
— Mr. Speaker, those 40‑plus businesses that are accompanying the Premier
are the reason that Saskatchewan’s leading the country in GDP, Mr. Speaker.
Those companies are the reason that Saskatchewan is doing well, Mr. Speaker.
Those are the companies that are employing Saskatchewan citizens, Mr. Speaker.
The list that we applied to the federal
government, Mr. Speaker: sustainable nuclear power, not approved; sustainable
supply chains for critical minerals, not approved. Sustainably powering the
future for Saskatchewan uranium, federal government didn’t approve it, Mr.
Speaker. Saskatchewan oil and gas sustainable policies, the federal government
didn’t approve it. Mr. Speaker, that list goes on.
The one that was approved by the federal
government, Mr. Speaker, was the Sustainable Saskatchewan reception, Mr.
Speaker. But it was approved in the Canadian pavilion, that that member says
that we should be using, for 45 minutes, Mr. Speaker. We have over 40 companies
going, Mr. Speaker. Should we allocate one minute per company?
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina Rosemont.
Mr.
Wotherspoon: — Mr. Speaker, Saskatchewan people are
fed up with watching this tired and out-of-touch government waste their
hard-earned public dollars. But you know, that’s their record over there time
and time again: the bypass, the GTH [Global
Transportation Hub], inflated hotel prices, a pavilion, and so much more. Now
mismanagement of public dollars is always wrong, but it’s especially galling
when regular people are struggling with the crushing cost of living and a
government that’s only made it worse.
We’ve called on this government to scrap
the tax on gas and diesel to give families a break at the pump. When with the Sask Party get on board and finally offer some
cost-of-living relief for people who so desperately deserve it?
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the Deputy Premier.
Hon.
Ms. Harpauer:
— Mr. Speaker, I think that member’s a little sensitive to the fact that I keep
saying he’s good at criticism but never has a plan, because now he’s reached
across the border and using the Manitoba NDP suggestion of the fuel tax. But
let’s just compare living in Saskatchewan to living in Manitoba, Mr. Speaker,
and let’s account for everything.
So when do Manitobans have to start to
pay their provincial income tax? Well at $36,842, Mr. Speaker. What is that in
Saskatchewan? In Saskatchewan they do not pay provincial tax until $49,720, Mr.
Speaker. That means in Saskatchewan you can earn 12,000, over $12,000 — 12,878
to be exact — without paying any provincial tax that you are being taxed on in
Manitoba.
What does that tax account for? Quite
frankly, Mr. Speaker, why I calculated that too. That means that they have to
pay $1,390 more in income tax just on that small amount of money, Mr. Speaker.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina Rosemont.
Mr.
Wotherspoon: — Mr. Speaker, it’s been tax and
squander by that Finance minister and that Sask Party
government. And while this government mismanages the hard-earned public dollars
of Saskatchewan people, Saskatchewan people are breaking the bank just to fill
the tank as they face this crushing cost of living and a government that’s only
made it worse.
They can’t choose to drive less when
they need to get to work or take kids to hockey or activities or to drive to
town. For most, driving isn’t some luxury that people can choose just to cut
back. In Saskatchewan it’s a necessity. Our plan would save families $350, Mr.
Speaker. Real dollars for real people, for real families.
Why does that Finance minister and that
tired, old Sask Party think those dollars are better
off in their coffers to be mismanaged, as we’ve seen, instead of in the pockets
of Saskatchewan people?
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the Deputy Premier.
Hon.
Ms. Harpauer:
— Well, Mr. Speaker, as that member knows that this government decided instead
of the $350,000 focus on one thing, Mr. Speaker, that we were going to give
every taxpayer in the province $500. That’s 1,000 per couple that they could
spend at their discretion on where their inflationary pressures were being felt
in that household, Mr. Speaker.
I think $500 per taxpayer is a little
bit more than their suggestion, but I give them credit. At least this time they
have a suggestion.
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from
Saskatchewan Rivers.
Ms.
Wilson:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’m pleased this side of the Assembly is united in
calling for this government to cut the provincial gas tax to give residents
cost-of-living relief at the pumps. Our party began calling on the Premier to
axe his provincial carbon tax on fuel during the Lumsden-Morse byelection.
Alberta, Ontario, Manitoba, Newfoundland
and Labrador have all cut their provincial gas tax. Mr. Speaker, this year
Saskatchewan had the second-highest jump of the consumer price index of all the
provinces. Residents need relief.
Mr. Speaker, as a vast rural province,
we have the highest per-person fuel consumption of all the provinces. We
produce world-class oil and gas right here in Saskatchewan. Why won’t the
Premier give residents relief and axe his provincial carbon tax on fuel? Thank
you.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the Deputy Premier.
Hon.
Ms. Harpauer:
— Mr. Speaker, the province doesn’t have a carbon tax on fuel. So I don’t know
where the member opposite got her information, but she’s misinformed on that.
There is no carbon tax provincially.
What we are proposing however — which
again is more than what the NDP are proposing — what we’re proposing is that we
will not charge the carbon tax on home fuel, Mr. Speaker. That will equate to
approximately on average $400 per household, Mr. Speaker. Is she going to
support that?
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Saskatchewan Rivers.
Ms.
Wilson:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s bad enough our ambulances aren’t coming when
called, now we are experiencing hospital brownouts for emergency services. The
Tisdale Hospital’s emergency and out-patient department was closed on October
20th and 21st. Closed, Mr. Speaker.
Residents across the province are
telling me they are not confident their local hospital will be open and
available to provide emergency services. They are forced to make choices about
which hospital to drive their loved ones to, because they don’t know which one
will be open and ready to treat them.
This government’s complete mismanagement
of our health care system is forcing patients to play Russian roulette when
making choices about their health. Do they call an ambulance? Will it even
come? Do they drive to the hospital? Will the hospital’s emergency service be
open?
Mr. Speaker, does this government have
any explanations for their complete mismanagement of our prepaid health
services?
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Rural and Remote Health.
Hon.
Mr. T. McLeod:
— Thank you. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. And of course this government
does have a plan. It’s a four-point plan that was announced a year ago, and
it’s a health human resources action plan. And it is working, Mr. Speaker. That
plan recruits new health care providers, it trains more, and it’s incentivizing
and retaining, Mr. Speaker.
We’ve seen success over that plan. We
will continue to see success with that plan. We know that there are pressures
in our rural and remote health care facilities, Mr. Speaker, but that plan is
addressing those. Those pressures are not unique to Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker,
they’re extended right across the country. And we will continue to address
those problems right here at home. Thanks, Mr. Speaker.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Saskatchewan Rivers.
Ms.
Wilson:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Parents are contacting me by phone and email
expressing their concern over this government’s lack of commitment to Parents’
Bill of Rights. When this Premier spoke to the media on Tuesday, he had no clue
how it would be enforced, stating, “I don’t know what the protocols are. I
guess we could ask the school divisions at some point.”
What is going on, Mr. Speaker? Who is in
charge here? Can the Premier not even run his own ministry or enforce his own
legislation? I think it’s pretty clear from this statement he doesn’t care.
Mr. Speaker, parents are upset. This
Premier is once again caving on the issue. Dozens of parents are prepared to
come to this legislature next week to demand answers from this government. Will
the Premier give assurances on its implementation, or will these parents have
to come to their Legislative Assembly?
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Education.
Hon.
Mr. Cockrill:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the whole parental bill of rights that
we passed and we introduced as a policy earlier in the summer that became
legislation in our special session just recently, Mr. Speaker, this policy was
because we’ve heard from parents all around the province who want to be more
involved in their child’s education. We’ve done that by passing this
legislation, Mr. Speaker, despite the opposition’s opposition to this bill,
quite frankly, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, I’d remind the member
opposite though that teachers in this province are direct employees of school
divisions. Education is delivered between provincial government and locally
elected school boards, Mr. Speaker. We trust our locally elected school
divisions will follow The Education Act and the bill of rights that
we’ve passed, Mr. Speaker, and we look forward to working with them on the
implementation of that legislation.
The
Speaker:
— I recognize the Minister of Crown Investments Corporation.
Hon.
Mr. Duncan:
— Mr. Speaker, I move that Bill
No. 151, The SaskEnergy
(Carbon Tax Fairness for Families) Amendment Act, 2023 be now introduced and read a first
time.
The
Speaker:
— It has been moved by the minister that Bill No. 151 be now introduced and read a first time. Is it the
pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members: —
Agreed.
The Speaker: —
Carried.
Deputy Clerk: —
First reading of this bill.
The Speaker: —
When shall the bill be read a second time? I recognize the minister.
Hon. Mr. Duncan: —
Next sitting of the Assembly.
The Speaker: —
Next sitting.
[11:00]
The Speaker: — I recognize the member from Cut Knife-Turtleford.
Mr.
Domotor: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’m honoured
to enter into today’s debate. Unfortunately here we are again discussing how
the federal government has impeded nearly every sector of our growing economy.
The national carbon tax was implemented
on April 1st, 2019 at $20 per tonne and was supposed to only increase each year
by $10 per tonne until 2022, when it was supposed to max out at 50. However
since then we’ve seen the federal government increase it from the $50 per tonne
to $65 per tonne in 2023, with plans to increase it to $170 per tonne by 2030.
Since 1988 the Government of Canada has
had at least a dozen climate plans, including the Kyoto Protocol, Copenhagen
Accord, and the Paris Agreement. Yet the federal government has never imposed
climate change management strategies with scope, scale, and speed it has since
2015. That is why it is being said that the plan is always ever-changing.
The current federal government has launched
over 2,500 unique climate initiatives, introduced and changed Canada’s carbon
tax six times in as many years, and they’ve revised the national greenhouse gas
emissions targets seven times since 2015. The federal government policies are
costing Saskatchewan’s natural resource sector investment and jobs. The federal
government’s constant changing of climate policies really do limit
opportunities to move forward.
Saskatchewan has the resources that
drive innovation, fuel growth, and improve a better way of life. The pursuing
of a climate agenda is being pushed by the federal government with very little
knowledge or understanding of its impact, moving forward without thought or
minimal input from provinces, and having this ideology, the one-size-fits-all
approach that only works for a few Canadians.
Every single day affordability comes up
here in this House. It is due to the federal climate policies which are causing
undue hardship on families, businesses, and entire sectors of the economy that
is being stifled to achieve limited or very marginal progress in addressing
climate change.
The province of Saskatchewan has shown
it is possible to achieve both economic and environmental goals in unison, most
recently reducing greenhouse emissions from venting and flaring at upstream oil
facilities by 65 per cent below 2015 levels while increasing production.
The constant shifting of policies and
targets continues to hamper competitiveness, discourage investment, limit
trade, and therefore reduces employment opportunities and harms the
Saskatchewan way of life.
Canada’s parliamentary budget officer
expects the clean fuel regulations alone will cost the average Saskatchewan
household an extra $1,117 in 2030. This supports the Saskatchewan white paper, Drawing
the Line, which indicated that Saskatchewan’s economy would suffer by over
$100 billion in 2035.
Just days before the energy and minerals
minister conference, the federal government shared several hundred pages of
material, fully knowing that provinces would not have the time to review and analyze the material before weighing in on Canada’s energy
and resource future. Just another example of how the federal government impedes
our province’s economic growth.
Recent research done suggests that
carbon taxes and pricing systems do not significantly reduce emissions. The
University of Toronto research has shown that aggregate reductions from carbon
pricing on emissions are limited to between zero and 2 per cent. For
comparison, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change states that global
net human-caused carbon dioxide emissions must fall by 45 per cent from 2010
levels by 2030 to limit global warming by only 1.5 degrees Celsius, reaching
net zero around 2050.
Our government’s very proud of this
province and the efforts that have been made thus far to build climate
resistance and pursue sustainable growth. Local farmers have sequestered
12.8 million tonnes of carbon through zero-till practices in 2020, more
than any other Canadian province and the same as taking 2.78 million cars
off the road. SaskPower’s Boundary dam has captured 4.6 million tonnes of CO2 since it opened, about the same as
planting over 69 million trees and letting them grow for over 10 years.
And Saskatchewan’s pulse producers captured 2.15 million tonnes of carbon
in 2021, equivalent to taking 467,000 cars off the road.
The federal government has further
complicated matters by setting targets without the full understanding of the
outcomes of existing policies. Emissions data normally takes years to develop
and are notorious for frequent revisions. This data deficiency has led the
federal government to revise its greenhouse emissions and move the goalposts
seven times over the last nine years.
The clean fuel regulations that began on
July 1st, 2023 has already increased costs for consumers and has negatively
impacted Saskatchewan’s competitiveness, particularly in the agriculture,
mining, forestry, oil and gas, and transportation sectors. At this time up to
3 billion in Saskatchewan investments are at risk to relocating.
Our government is awaiting an
announcement on the Natural Resources Canada engagement that occurred from May
to July of 2023. The United States Inflation Reduction Act, which
introduced a clean fuels production credit, makes biofuels production in the
United States very attractive and will essentially pull investments away from
building domestic supply right here in Canada. Another example of the federal
government moving forward without consideration of the supply-demand issues as
well as the impact of inflation.
The Canadian fuel regulation standard
federal regulatory impact assessment admits that rural households will be more
heavily impacted unless choices are made to either switch personal vehicles
over to electric vehicles or to just simply not drive as much. Mr. Speaker,
this just does not work for the people of our province that live in rural
areas.
Bill C‑69, the Impact
Assessment Act, sets out a complex framework for designating certain
projects for review, analyzing their adverse effects
on areas in federal jurisdiction, and weighing mitigation measures and
sustainability concerns. The law grew out of a major campaign promise from the
Liberals in the 2015 election and has produced heated controversy ever since.
Catherine McKenna, the then Environment minister, said at that time that better
rules would protect the environment while improving investor confidence and
making the Canadian energy and resource sector more competitive. However this
has not gone on according to the Liberal plan. The government’s own Energy
Fact Book says that capital expenditures in the energy sector dropped 44
per cent between 2014 and 2021.
It has been said that this has
contributed to the slow bleed of Canada. This legislation is also responsible
for the financial loss of tens of billions in investment, as well as thousands
of jobs across many provinces and ultimately economic sectors. Westerners, Mr.
Speaker, have found themselves increasingly under a sustained attack from
Ottawa, resulting in a . . . [inaudible] . . . of
separatist rhetoric that had been dormant for over 40 years, ironically so
since the days of Pierre Trudeau’s national energy program.
In the ruling by the Supreme Court of
Canada on Friday, October 13th, five out of seven judges said the Impact
Assessment Act is largely unconstitutional because it seeks to regulate
activities that fall within provincial jurisdiction. The court ruling will make
a very real difference for projects that are being proposed within the
boundaries of one province; however transmission lines or pipelines will still
be subject to federal assessment.
Bill C‑69 has basically a bunch of
subjective standards that made it almost impossible for a certain kind of
project to be approved. A report from the Canada West Foundation published
earlier this year found that out of the 25 projects submitted under the federal
Impact Assessment Act since 2019, almost all remain in the first two
phases of a four-part approval process. How does any of this help
Saskatchewan’s economy, Mr. Speaker?
In July of 2022, the Government of
Canada released a discussion paper detailing plans for emissions from the oil
and gas sector to be capped at current levels and decline at a pace to reach
net zero by 2050. Similar requirements are not planned for other industry
sectors.
Again, one resource sector in Canada is
being carved out and essentially being treated differently than another.
Pending the design, the oil and gas sector emissions cap may effectively act as
a limit on oil and gas production within Canada. An outline of the design was
expected from the federal government in early 2023, and all we’ve heard so far
is crickets. It’s now expected to be released in late 2023. Today,
mid-November, and absolutely still nothing.
Saskatchewan did provide feedback on the
options to cap and cut oil and gas sector greenhouse gas emissions to achieve
2030 goals that was released in July of 2022. This document proposed regulatory
options to achieve a net zero target of 2050 but was silent on the costs to
industry.
The federal government is considering
two regulatory options. First, a new cap-and-trade system under the Canadian
Environmental Protection Act, 1999 which would require the establishment
and administration of a completely new system. Second, a modification of the
curb in carbon pricing regime under the Greenhouse Gas Pollution Pricing Act,
which involves creating a higher, sector-specific carbon price for oil and gas.
Oil and gas emissions in Saskatchewan,
as reported to the United Nations by the Government of Canada, indicated that
emissions have been on a distinct downward trend since 2015. Nationally, oil
and gas sector emissions have continued to increase. I think this simply means
that globally there is much to be learned. As it has been stated before in this
House by our Premier, if more countries sequestered oil as we do here in
Saskatchewan, there would be a 25 per cent reduction in total emissions.
Currently the 2023 estimate for oil
production is 456,700 barrels per day. The current combined estimate for 2023
value of oil and gas production is 13.1 billion. There are also
approximately 180 companies that currently operate actively producing oil and
gas wells in Saskatchewan. Oil and gas are significant economic boosters and
needs to not only grow, but be protected from infringement by our federal
Liberal-NDP coalition government.
When it comes to the fertilizer
emissions cap, Mr. Speaker, the goal is for farmers across the country to
reduce emissions that come from synthetic fertilizers by 30 per cent by 2030
from the 2020 levels. Mr. Speaker, farming generates about 8 per cent of
Canada’s greenhouse gas emissions. These greenhouse gases come from a variety
of sources. Diesel and gas-powered machinery is used to till fields, plant
seeds, apply fertilizers, harvest crops, and transport the food to market.
Mr. Speaker, the bottom line is this. It
doesn’t matter if it is the federal carbon tax, the clean fuel standard, Bill C‑69,
the oil production cap, the clean electricity standard, or the fertilizer
emissions cap. There are significant impacts to every single one of us. It
doesn’t matter if you simply are a consumer who likes to light and heat your
home, or you are a farmer trying to feed the people of Saskatchewan and export
feed to the rest of the world, or you’re even just the person extracting the
oil from the ground. Each one of us is impacted by these stacking regulations.
In speaking to affordability issues, the
challenge has just begun, and it will continue to get more difficult for
families if the federal government continues to dampen the economic success of
this province.
And with that, Mr. Speaker, I’ll move
the following motion:
That
this Assembly demands the Liberal-NDP coalition Government of Canada end
policies that would constitute an attack on Saskatchewan’s economic growth and
energy production, including but not limited to the federal carbon tax, the
clean fuel standard, Bill C‑69, the oil production cap, the clean
electricity standard, and the fertilizer emissions cap; and further,
That
this Assembly denounces the Saskatchewan New Democratic Party for their support
of these policies.
I do so move. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
[11:15]
The
Deputy Speaker:
— It has been moved by the member from Cut Knife-Turtleford:
That
this Assembly demands the Liberal-NDP coalition Government of Canada end
policies that would constitute an attack on Saskatchewan’s economic growth and
energy production, including but not limited to the federal carbon tax, the
clean fuel standard, Bill C‑69, the oil production cap, the clean
electricity standard, and the fertilizer emissions cap; and further,
That
this Assembly denounces the Saskatchewan New Democratic Party for their support
of these policies.
Is the Assembly ready for the question?
I recognize the member from Walsh Acres.
Mr. Clarke: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s a
shame, Mr. Speaker, that the government has decided to spend more time in this
Chamber discussing positions that we have been clear on for a long time.
We don’t support the federal carbon tax.
We support pipelines. We support our agriculture sector. We support our oil and
gas workers. We support Saskatchewan people and the Saskatchewan economy, Mr.
Deputy Speaker. But just to be clear, Mr. Speaker, we don’t support the clause
in the motion that denounces the Saskatchewan New Democratic Party.
Now I’ll spend a little bit of time
going over the timeline again for members opposite because it doesn’t seem like
they actually pay attention in here when we’re speaking. On October 26th, the
Prime Minister of Canada announced the government was implementing a three-year
exemption to the carbon tax for people in Atlantic Canada on home heating oil.
Now the very next day, Mr. Deputy Speaker — and to remind members opposite — I
introduced a motion to the Assembly calling on the Government of Canada to
extend that relief of the carbon tax across the country on all home heating.
And I’ll actually read that motion
again, Mr. Deputy Speaker:
That
the Assembly expresses deep concern over the unfair decision by the
Government of Canada to allow oil used for home heating to be exempt from the
federal carbon tax, while offering no relief to families in Saskatchewan who
rely on natural gas; and
That
the Assembly expresses deep concern over the divisive comments made by the
Minister of Rural Economic Development, the Honourable Gudie
Hutchings, on October 28th, 2023, in which she blames Canadians living on the
prairies for the unfair choices of the Liberal government; and
That
the Assembly calls on all parties in the Parliament of Canada to quickly work
to remove the federal carbon tax from all forms of home heating for all
Canadians.
Now, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I’m confused
about which part of that motion suggests that we are in favour of the carbon
tax. Now what I’m not confused about is the fact that all the members opposite
voted in favour of the motion — the motion that the Saskatchewan NDP
introduced. Now our leader has been clear about where we stand. I’ve been clear
on where I stand. We don’t support the federal carbon tax.
Now when it comes to the clean
electricity regulations, the truth is, because of 16 years of the Sask Party government’s mismanagement of the provincial
electricity grid and SaskPower and its deliberate attacks on renewable energy,
our power grid is in a bad state of affairs. Because of this government’s
mismanagement, our provincial Crown and the Saskatchewan grid is in a tough
spot, financially and structurally. And that’s all this government’s record.
Now an NDP government is committed to investing in renewable energy that is
affordable for Saskatchewan people.
Now here’s the thing, Mr. Speaker. We
know that the Sask Party’s inability to reduce
emissions provincially has a negative impact for a number of businesses in this
province. One of those businesses is Evraz steel. Now
Evraz is not able to get its pipe green-certified and
get a premium price for that pipe because our electricity grid relies too
heavily on fossil fuels. We know that there are other companies who won’t look
at Saskatchewan to invest in or build a mine in or set up shop here because our
electricity grid relies too heavily on fossil fuels. And these companies have a
commitment to make their products in a sustainable and environmentally friendly
way. Now the Saskatchewan economy is missing out because of that.
I want to go back to Evraz
for a second because here is a Saskatchewan story we should be shouting from
the rooftops, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Evraz is a giant
recycling facility. All their pipe and steel is produced from old steel. But
perhaps more impressive is the advancements in the water reduction to make that
steel. Now Evraz steel only uses 1 litre of water
when other steel mills in this country use 28 litres of water to produce the
same amount of steel. Now that water is treated on site and they have zero
wastewater discharge — pretty impressive. Moreover when it comes to emissions, Evraz’s electric-arc furnace produces 75 per cent less
emissions than a traditional furnace that is used out in Eastern Canada.
Now the last thing that I want to
mention is the fact that Regina Evraz steel is the
only place in North America that is certified to make hydrogen pipe, one of two
places in the world. Now this is cutting-edge technology and advancement. This
is innovation right here in Saskatchewan, and it’s something that we are very
proud of.
But sadly, Mr. Deputy Speaker, most
people on the pipe production side at Evraz have been
laid off. Producing steel pipe at Evraz keeps good
jobs in this city. And when we are building and replacing pipes across Canada,
we should be using pipe from this facility at Evraz
in Regina. Where has been the championing of this story by this government?
It’s been crickets.
Now let’s be clear, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
Climate change is real. One thing that I learned from Dr.
Peter Sauchyn at the University of Regina a few years
ago was that Saskatchewan and Mongolia have the most variable climate in the
world, which is fascinating to think about. It’s our normal to go from minus 40
to plus 40 in a year. Now nowhere else in the world has a fluctuating climate
like we have here. Therefore we’re used to big temperature fluctuations. We’re
used to drought. We’re used to extreme weather events.
However when you drill down into the
data from Saskatchewan, it is undeniable that our winters are getting
significantly warmer. We are seeing our growing seasons getting significantly
longer with more frost-free days. We are seeing more extreme weather events and
we’re seeing more extreme droughts.
And we are seeing the economic impacts
of these realities affecting us here in Saskatchewan. For example, in 2021 we
see Saskatchewan’s largest crop insurance payout in
our history, $2.4 billion due to a record drought. This year, 2023, we had
a record-breaking number of payments in the forage rain insurance program
totalling $60.4 million. 2023, this year again saw one of the most severe
wildfire seasons on record. Approximately 1.9 million hectares of land was
burned in Saskatchewan in wildfires. That’s about five times the size of Prince
Albert National Park.
What was the cost of that, Mr. Deputy
Speaker, from fighting the fires to the cost of evacuating residents, to
rebuilding the damaged infrastructure? We see water shortages today in
Cumberland House, right now a direct result from the drought. We need
Saskatchewan solutions, and we need a government who’s willing to find those
solutions.
Now last night I attended the Pacific NorthWest Economic Region, or PNWER,
reception. We had a number of delegates in the House today. It’s an
organization that brings together politicians and decision makers from across
Saskatchewan, Alberta, Manitoba, BC, the Yukon, Northwest Territories,
Washington State, Montana, Idaho, Oregon, and Alaska. And it was so great, Mr.
Deputy Speaker, to meet a number of delegates from across those areas.
At the event last night, a video was
shown promoting Saskatchewan to this group of visiting dignitaries. Now the
video was fantastic, Mr. Deputy Speaker. It talked about us and the number of
lakes and the open spaces, and us as an exporter — lentils, durum, peas, etc. I
was proud of this video, Mr. Deputy Speaker. In it, it talked about that we
have the critical minerals needed to address climate change.
And it flashed on the screen — which I
think is vital and an opportunity, Mr. Deputy Speaker, on those critical
minerals — but it flashed on the screen that this government is committed to
net zero emissions by 2050. And I’ve got to say, I was shocked to see that.
This government right here is committed to net zero by 2050. Come on, Mr.
Deputy Speaker. Clearly someone in government understands that the world is
moving to net zero, and yet this is a government that has repeatedly groaned
and laughed when climate change is mentioned in this Assembly.
So what is it? Is climate change real or
is it a conspiracy? Are you committed to net zero by 2050? Or is the Premier’s
stance, I don’t care, the policy? If you are committed to net zero, that you
are clearly advertising to these international partners, then where is your
plan to get there?
Saskatchewan New Democrats are committed
to working with industry, with Saskatchewan people, innovators, problem solvers
. . .
The
Deputy Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Arm River.
Mr.
Skoropad:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Well, Mr. Speaker, after that quite frankly I’m not
sure where to begin on that. But you know, let’s begin by talking a little bit
about horses, I think.
You know, Mr. Speaker, I’m actually
really not a horse guy. I kind of like them. I do like them. I never really
grew up around them. Been on the odd horse, yeah, a little bit. But we had a
horse named Sparky out on the farm. It was an old chore horse, and my dad used
to walk it up to the yard each fall, and we’d have a, you know, place for it.
And he’d prop me up there, and I’d hang on tight and be terrified for the whole
journey. But other than that, like honestly I really don’t know much about
horses.
But I do know something. I do know
something. I do know the difference between a workhorse and thoroughbred. You
see, Mr. Speaker, a workhorse, a workhorse, they’re strong. They are set out to
do specific tasks. They’re led. They’re controlled. And then there’s the
thoroughbred. The thoroughbred, bred for speed, bred for running. And there’s
two keys to a thoroughbred really: know where you’re going and then run as hard
as you can.
Well, Mr. Speaker, I will tell you. Why
— and that member opposite is wondering — why am I telling you this? Anyways,
well I’ll tell you. When Saskatchewan was established as a province so many
years ago, we were seen as a workhorse, a chore horse for Eastern Canada. We
really were. But, Mr. Speaker, I’ll tell you, things have changed. And we
certainly will always be the workhorse. It’s bred into us. We’re hard-working
people. But we are also a thoroughbred now here in Saskatchewan.
Mr. Speaker, these are ropes that are an
attack on our economic growth and our energy production in this province. These
are ropes that were put forth and put on us by our coalition federal
government, the Liberal-NDP federal government, and these are ropes that are
directly and indirectly supported by members opposite.
Mr. Speaker, other jurisdictions, other
jurisdictions, Mr. Speaker, quite frankly, they are running in a race with us
and against us. And quite frankly many of them don’t have ropes around their
neck, and they actually in some cases have a lot of tailwinds too, pushing
them. Our horse needs to be allowed to run here, Mr. Speaker.
And I’ll tell you, this is so
frustrating, so very frustrating because there is so much at stake here at
home. I look at what’s at stake. What’s at stake is the growth. What’s at stake
is our potential. What’s at stake are our families. What’s at stake are our
communities. What’s at stake are our livelihoods and our quality of life that
we’re able to provide for the people of this province.
But there’s also some other things at
stake, Mr. Deputy Speaker. There’s so much at stake globally as well. We, Mr.
Speaker, hold the answers to the world’s questions. Questions like, how are we
going to reduce global emissions? Questions like, how are we going to feed a
growing population? These policies quite frankly, Mr. Deputy Speaker, are
irresponsible.
[11:30]
Take for instance the policy to reduce
fertilizer emission by 30 per cent. This rope is a noose around the neck of our
sustainable ag sector, Mr. Deputy Speaker. And this is a policy no doubt
created by those who probably have never had dirt on their boots, nor struggled
to grow a crop, nor struggled to pay the bills while at the same time trying to
figure out how to feed the world. These are probably not the same people who
have had that concern and that worry of how to put food on their table, at the
same time putting food on others’ tables as well, Mr. Speaker.
This is a policy, Mr. Speaker, that
treats farmers, treats them like culprits that just willy-nilly go out and want
to spread as much fertilizer on the land as they possibly can, maybe doing so
under the shroud of darkness and in secrecy. It treats them as being
irresponsible.
But here’s the reality check, Mr. Deputy
Speaker. When a semi pulls into a yard, a farmyard, with a load of fertilizer,
we’re looking at upwards of a 45, $40,000 investment that that operation is
making into production, into feeding the world.
Farmers try hard not to use fertilizer
and try to use it as efficiently as possible. They try so hard. They do soil
testing. They use technology like variable-rate technology. They incorporate
the 4Rs, putting fertilizer on the . . .
the right fertilizer and the right rate, the right time, and the right place.
And you know, I have quite a large
constituency, Mr. Deputy Speaker, 22 RMs [rural
municipality]. And I have never, never in the time I’ve been an MLA, even
before that, met a farmer who has wanted to use more fertilizer. So if you want
to talk about irresponsible, it certainly is this federal policy.
Consider the impact. Consider the impact on our
Saskatchewan economy, consider the impact on our families, and consider the
impact on our ability to feed the world. And consider something else for a
moment if you would. Consider the world’s population. In 1972, when I was born
— it was a fantastic year; we actually scored a pretty important goal in this
country — there were 3.8 billion people on the planet. That’s
3.8 billion. Last November we hit a milestone of 8 billion people on
the planet, and it’s projected to be in the neighbourhood of 9.7 to
10 billion people by 2050 which is just around the corner, Mr. Speaker.
And so here’s the question: how will we
feed this growth? Because this growth that we’re looking at from now to 2050 is
the equivalent of adding another United States of America and India to our
planet. How are we going to feed these people?
Here’s another reality check, Mr.
Speaker. Food doesn’t come from a grocery store. Food’s sold in a grocery
store. Food comes from our farms. Food comes from our ranchers. Food comes from
Saskatchewan and so does energy, Mr. Speaker, our oil, our gas, our uranium,
and so does our lumber, and so does our fertilizer, Mr. Speaker.
And unlike this one federal policy would
suggest, our ag sector is responsible. It’s responsible for pioneering zero-till
farming practices. It’s responsible for developing plant and animal science to
increase efficiency. It’s responsible for increasing production. It’s
responsible for feeding the world, and it’s responsible for lowering global
emissions, Mr. Speaker, because no one does it better than we do here.
Our grains, when you compare them to our
competitors, Mr. Speaker — we’ve heard a number of times in this House — they
just win hands-down. The emission intensity of our grains, when you look at
canola, compared to our competitors, 65 per cent better; peas, 95 per cent
better, Mr. Speaker.
But actually while I am on the topic of
emissions, this is one area where our Saskatchewan horse certainly needs to be
let to run. Our sustainable resource production is the solution, Mr. Speaker,
to lowering our global emissions because, quite frankly, the more of
sustainable Saskatchewan and its products that are produced and exported around
the world, quite frankly the better, Mr. Speaker. Products from our ag sector,
our forestry sector, our mining sector, our uranium, our soon-to-be-more
copper, our potash, our manufacturing sector, and our oil and gas sector —
these, Mr. Speaker, these are the answer to what the world wants and what the
world needs. And we certainly on this side of the House will continue to
support these sustainable industries.
We’ll continue to stand up against
federal policies, supported by the members opposite, that would jeopardize this
province’s extraordinary potential. If we don’t stand up for Saskatchewan, both
at home and globally, who’s going to do it? Members opposite do not want us
travelling around the world. If we do not support our industries, who will do
it? I’ll tell you who will do it, Mr. Speaker. We will, on this side of the House.
And with that, Mr. Speaker, I do support
the motion put forth by my colleague, the member from Cut Knife-Turtleford.
Thank you.
The
Deputy Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina University.
Ms.
A. Young:
— Thank you. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. You know, it’s another 75‑minute
debate and another opportunity, Mr. Speaker, for us to talk about our positions
on this issue which — I’m not sure if the member from Arm River was listening —
but we’ve been crystal clear on this, Mr. Speaker. We’ll continue to be. The
Leader of the Opposition has been crystal clear on this.
And we’re able to do that in the House,
outside of the House, into microphones, on social media. Mr. Speaker, we’re
able to take those conversations into any room. Because if you have the same
conversation in every room, Mr. Speaker, it’s pretty easy to remember what
you’ve said — because what you’ve said is the truth.
And we’ve been crystal clear on this,
Mr. Speaker, and we will be no matter how many 75‑minute debates that we
do. So where to begin, Mr. Speaker? I’m struggling to actually read here; I
don’t know if this is part of aging or what, but the old eyes, Mr. Deputy
Speaker, aren’t what they used to be. So another 75‑minute debate. We’ve
been crystal clear on this, Mr. Speaker.
So let’s refresh where we’ve already
been, and then I’m quite confident where we will continue to go over the course
of this 75‑minute debate. The Saskatchewan NDP does not support the
federal carbon tax, no matter how many times the members opposite want to say
it. We do not support any of these policies, Mr. Deputy Speaker, which
represent federal overreach and intrusions that the federal government is
undertaking to make life more expensive, harder for people or businesses in
Saskatchewan.
And let’s be clear. And you know, to the
members opposite, you can give the old heads a shake. We are opposed to federal
policies that represent overreach and that wade into areas of clear provincial
jurisdiction. This is a proud, proud part of our legacy in this province, the
Saskatchewan New Democrats in this province, and we are proud of the work that
former premiers Blakeney and Romanow undertook to
ensure that natural resources remain in the jurisdiction of provinces, Mr.
Speaker. So again, don’t support the carbon tax.
Clean electricity regulations, we’ve
talked about these too. Unrealistic. Ignorant to the realities that
Saskatchewan faces and, especially with the Inflation Reduction Act in
the United States, largely, largely unachievable, Mr. Speaker.
Pipelines: a safe, clear method of
transportation and a good source of work for our remarkable steelworkers at Evraz and for people all across the province, Mr. Speaker.
So we’ve been clear on our position on C‑69,
the oil production cap and the fertilizer emission cap. Mr. Speaker, we can do
this all day.
But, Mr. Deputy Speaker, members will be
thrilled. We’re not just interested in negativity, Mr. Speaker. What we are
interested in on this side of the House: better jobs, bigger paycheques for
Saskatchewan people, and the number one issue that Saskatchewan people care
about, cost of living.
We are interested, Mr. Speaker, on real
progress for this province and for investing in innovation in traditional
industries that work for Saskatchewan’s people and economy. And our leader,
leader of Saskatchewan’s NDP, has been darned clear about this.
We used to lead the nation. Led the
nation in innovations. We’ve led the nation in power generation, in having a
remarkable Crown corporation and asset, a jewel, in SaskPower.
We used to be leaders in Canada on
renewable power generation as well. When this government took over 16 years
ago, they were committed to this. We used to lead. And now, you’re right. The
member from Canora-Pelly is right. We’re dead last. We’re laggers. This is a
government who says “I don’t care” when faced with the reality of climate
change, a government who calls it “witchcraft reasoning,” a government that
killed the solar industry here in Saskatchewan. Talk about picking winners and
losers, Mr. Speaker.
A government that has no transparency
for workers in Estevan at Westmoreland, at Boundary, no plan for people in
Coronach trying to figure out what to do, if their house is going to be worth
any money.
A government that has mismanaged
SaskPower, a monopoly that they run, into a position of an historic nearly
$200 million loss, Mr. Speaker. Imagine that. Running a monopoly, hiking
rates not once, not twice, but three times during a generational cost-of-living
crisis, still managing to pull millions of dollars in dividends out of it, and
still losing money. It is a feat truly that could only be accomplished by the Sask Party government.
They continue, Mr. Speaker, to pull
these millions of dollars from the Crowns to paper over their mismanagement and
waste, and they continue to allow good-paying union jobs in Saskatchewan to go
to out-of-province companies, pay out-of-province companies to profit and
profiteer off our tax dollars, Mr. Speaker.
And while this government is happy to
let those good jobs, those skilled workers, all of that money flee the
province, we actually have a plan, Mr. Speaker. Members opposite have been
saying, oh, the NDP party has no plan. We do. The Leader of the Opposition is
committed to hire Saskatchewan. It’s common sense, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Our tax
dollars should be going to support Saskatchewan jobs, Saskatchewan families.
Talk to any employer in this province about the labour shortage and they will
say, let’s keep Saskatchewan people here; let’s keep them working and building
Saskatchewan with our own money, our own tax dollars.
Since
2017 when the PST was hiked, GDP growth in Saskatchewan has averaged
second-worst in the country. GDP per capita languishes barely above pandemic
levels. Worse yet, in the last eight years the province has only added 20,000
jobs.
This is a government that’s opposed to
the carbon tax, as are we, Mr. Speaker, as we’ve said time and time and time
again and will continue to say. But this is a government who is taxing
Saskatchewan people all the way to their own piggy bank. You are taxing
Saskatchewan people since 2017 more than the carbon tax every single year, Mr.
Speaker. Let’s revisit that number: $962 million a year is what you have
taxed people every single year while stifling economic growth, stifling any
kind of development.
And now I understand, Mr. Deputy
Speaker, that the members opposite want to stay in their comfort zone, feel a
little bit better heading into the weekend, and yet they continue to do
nothing. They do nothing on the cost of living, Mr. Speaker. And it was a year
ago . . . In reviewing for this, I was looking at old Hansards.
Like God, how many 75‑minute debates have we done on this topic? I
imagine we’ll do at least five or six more, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
[11:45]
A year ago, November 17th, 2022 we were talking
about this in the House. I don’t know if they’ve got a calendar that they just
flip over every year. But it was a year ago, Mr. Deputy Speaker, that Doug Ford
introduced fuel relief in Ontario. We’ve been calling for this for almost two
years, Mr. Speaker. And in politics the perennial question, the number one
question is, are you better off than you were last year, two years ago, five
years ago? Is your life more expensive? And for people in this province the
answer is a resounding no.
You know, the member from Arm River
wanted to talk about the grocery store, and I think that’s a really, really
good place to end, Mr. Speaker. Because right now the reality that we have in
Saskatchewan is Saskatchewan people are choosing between groceries and heating
their homes. People who have never struggled to pay their bills are reaching
for items in the grocery store, looking at the price, and putting them back.
And, Mr. Deputy Speaker, we have a
government who is doing everything they can to make life more expensive, hiking
power rates 8 per cent in a generational cost-of-living crisis, and doing
nothing but . . .
The
Deputy Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Cannington.
Mr.
D. Harrison:
— Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker, Canada has had several
climate change plans since 1988. Until the election of Justin Trudeau in 2015,
we have never seen a federal government impose climate management strategies
with such wide scope, scale, and speed. With the Trudeau-Singh coalition
government, we have them moving faster and imposing more heavy-handed,
economic-killing policies.
This short-sighted coalition government,
supported by those NDP members opposite, have imposed a change to the federal
carbon tax six times in six years and revised national greenhouse gas emission
targets seven times since 2015. These failed policies, failed tax policies have
caused undue hardships for Saskatchewan’s economic growth. While these failed
carbon taxes and climate policies have slowed and injured Saskatchewan’s economic
growth, it has also directly impacted the hard-working people of this province
by driving up the cost of living. An ever-increasing federal carbon tax on
Canadians is directly and indirectly increasing the cost of living across this
country. We have said this for years, and for years the Trudeau government has
ignored our pleas.
More recently the Bank of Canada
governor has also admitted the federal carbon tax is contributing to inflation,
inflation the Bank of Canada is now trying to control by raising interest
rates, higher interest rates that will continue to put pressure on Saskatchewan
residents and businesses. This is sounding more and more like the Trudeau-Singh
coalition government is the primary cause of inflation and the high cost of
living for Canadians, sort of like a dog chasing its tail.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, most recently Prime
Minister Trudeau, backed by several East Coast Liberal members of parliament,
said his coalition government would pause the carbon tax on home heating oil
for three years. The Prime Minister is now admitting that his federally imposed
carbon tax is driving up the cost of living for Canadians. Mr. Deputy Speaker,
we have been saying this for years.
It is interesting to note that
Trudeau-Singh government has continued to sell the carbon tax to Canadians as a
price on pollution. It’s a tax. They said you would get a rebate, get back what
you paid in carbon tax. If that were indeed true, Mr. Deputy Speaker, they
would have increased the carbon tax on home heating oil. That way they would
get bigger rebates and be able to heat their homes and put food on the table.
But, Mr. Deputy Speaker, it doesn’t work that way. A carbon tax makes it more
expensive. It is driving up the cost of living, more of the dog chasing its tail.
Eventually the dog learns that it’s his own tail it’s been chasing. Finally our
Prime Minister has caught his tail and realized the carbon tax is increasing
the cost of living.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, here in Saskatchewan
we want to be treated fairly. We want you to be treated fairly. Your government
wants the natural gas that heats your homes to be exempted from the carbon tax,
similar to the recent announcement by the Trudeau government. After all,
Canadians should be treated fairly across the country regardless of who they
vote for.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, over 40 years ago
the people of Saskatchewan were early adopters of clean energy, early adopters
in changing over their home heating from oil, coal, and electrical to a
cleaner, more convenient and less expensive energy. Government and residents
invested in a network of gas lines to cities, towns, villages, and farms. Gas
lines providing a cleaner option for heating your homes, early adopters in
lowering emissions, and all this was done without a carbon tax.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, this is very similar
to our farmers not being recognized for their climate-saving practices. They
were leaders in zero-till and minimal tillage farming practices in the 1980s. These farming practices of yesterday are not getting
the recognition they deserve today. Today’s farming practices are continually
improving. Improvements are being developed as a desire to be better, not
because of a carbon tax.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, to ensure residents
of Saskatchewan are treated fairly with other Canadian residents mainly in the
eastern provinces, the Premier announced that as of January 1st, 2024 SaskEnergy will no longer collect nor remit carbon tax on
the natural gas used to heat Saskatchewan homes. This will result in residents
paying significantly less to heat their homes, and they will be able to use
these savings to pay for putting food on the table.
Carbon tax makes everything more
expensive. This Justin-Jagmeet coalition is just not worth the cost. Mr. Deputy
Speaker, as the Prime Minister has now acknowledged, the carbon tax is indeed
making everything more expensive. It is not the only federal initiative costing
Canadians more. The clean fuel standard will drive up the cost of gasoline and
diesel fuel. These regulations are intended to reduce greenhouse emissions.
These same regulations will force refiners to make changes and additions to
their refining process, changes that will increase the cost per litre of fuel
to an estimated 17 cents per litre.
Higher costs coming out of the refinery
will mean higher costs for consumers and businesses across Canada. I say Canada
specifically because there is a carve-out. Apparently the clean fuel
regulations do not apply to aviation gasoline or fuel exported from Canada. I’m
just guessing there must be less emissions from gasoline and diesel burned in
the sky and out of the country. Nothing like sticking it to the people at home,
Justin.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, it is not just the
NDP in Ottawa supporting the Justin-Jagmeet coalition government. It is the
members opposite. According to the member from Saskatoon Nutana, the need for a
carbon tax is “not up for debate any longer.” She said that. “We know that it’s
time for ambitious climate action using all of the tools at our disposal,
including the most cost-effective regulatory and market-based approaches such
as placing a price on carbon.”
Mr. Deputy Speaker, the only effective
outcome of a carbon tax is that it is effectively driving up the cost of
living. Inflation and the cost of living will continue to increase with
ever-increasing carbon tax, increasing to $170 per tonne by 2030. We can’t
afford it, and we can’t afford those NDP members that can’t stop supporting it.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, the member for
Saskatoon Nutana did not stop there. She also said, “We don’t think of the
carbon tax as a tax. This is a price on pollution and a necessary one.”
The federal government’s carbon tax is
not an environmental plan. It’s a failed tax plan. Mr. Speaker, carbon taxes
and other federal environmental regulations continue to be a burden to business
— businesses that are competing with world markets, world markets that don’t
have to pay a carbon tax. This severely places our companies at a disadvantage
to their competitors. We want our people and businesses to have the
Saskatchewan advantage. I implore the NDP members opposite to withdraw their
support for their leader, Jagmeet Singh, as long as he supports the Justin
Trudeau government.
I will be supporting the motion put
forward by my good friend and colleague from Cut Knife-Turtleford and seconded
by my good friend and colleague from Arm River. The motion reads as follows:
That
this Assembly demands the Liberal-NDP coalition Government of Canada end
policies that would constitute an attack on Saskatchewan’s economic growth and
energy production, including but not limited to the federal carbon tax, the
clean fuel standard, Bill C‑69, the oil production cap, the clean
electricity standard, and the fertilizer emissions cap; and further,
That
this Assembly denounces the Saskatchewan New Democratic Party for their support
of these failed policies.
God bless Canada. God bless
Saskatchewan. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The
Deputy Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Douglas Park. Regina Douglas Park.
Ms.
Sarauer:
— Mr. Deputy Speaker, I’m very excited to enter into this debate, especially
after what we’ve been hearing from the members opposite. I mean it’s no
surprise, this debate topic. We’ve done this debate topic at least a dozen
times since I’ve been elected over the last seven years, although they did add
this little clause at the end about denouncing the Sask
NDP.
And we saw the member opposite, the
member for Cannington, emphatically pointing his finger at us today, just
really emphatic about his disdain for the Sask NDP. I
remind that member of something that I learned when I was younger, that when
you’re pointing a finger, there’s three pointing right back at you.
And there’s a lot that this government
could be doing to help the pocketbooks of Saskatchewan residents, Mr. Speaker.
And I’m looking forward to spending the next few minutes reminding members
opposite about the things that they could be doing to help Saskatchewan
residents today, while at the same time standing up for Saskatchewan federally
in denouncing these federal policies that are so negatively hurting
Saskatchewan residents.
Now I don’t know what’s going on on the other side. Like I’ve said before, this old, tired
government seems to be suffering from some pretty serious short-term memory
loss, Mr. Speaker. They are so old at this point they can’t seem to tell the
difference between fact and fiction, which is why we’re so happy to have this
75‑minute debate topic so we can once again have the opportunity to put
our position on the record, which we’ve done many times already. But clearly
from the responses from members opposite, we have to do it again, Mr. Speaker.
And we will continue to remind them, again and again and again, because they
seem to continue to need that reminder.
And this has been really interesting
over the past several weeks. You know, as has already been discussed a few
weeks ago, the federal Prime Minister announced an exemption for the carbon tax
for home heating pumps, and essentially that’s going to support Eastern Canada
and doesn’t really do much for Western Canada, Mr. Speaker. As we all know, we
cannot rely on that sort of electricity and home heating in Saskatchewan, Mr.
Speaker.
We stood up and talked about how unfair
that was to Saskatchewan residents, and we actually introduced a motion. This
government is so choked that we were the ones who introduced that motion that
they keep spinning in a million different directions, trying to change the
narrative and change reality.
But Hansard doesn’t lie, and the
motion was introduced by my friend, my colleague, the member from Regina Walsh
Acres. I’m going to read it very slowly for members opposite because they seem
to have forgotten what happened in this House three weeks ago.
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And it says . . . And like I
said, two ears, one mouth. I hope they hear it this time. We were all here when
it happened, but they seem to have forgotten what happened three weeks ago. The
motion read:
That
the Assembly expresses deep concern over the unfair decision by the
Government of Canada to allow oil used for home heating to be exempt from the
federal carbon tax, while offering no relief to families in Saskatchewan who
rely on natural gas; and
That
the Assembly expresses deep concern over the divisive comments made by the
Minister of Rural Economic Development, the Honourable Gudie
Hutchings, on October 28th, 2023, in which she blames Canadians living on the
prairies for the unfair choices of the Liberal government; and
That
the Assembly calls on all parties [all parties, Mr. Speaker] in the Parliament
of Canada to quickly work to remove the federal carbon tax from all forms of
home heating for all Canadians.
Mr. Speaker, that’s in Hansard
for those who maybe forget, seem to not be able to know the difference between
fact and fiction on the other side, Mr. Speaker.
Now we made sure that government was
aware of that motion. We wanted to have the debate. We wanted to get it passed
through right away. The government moved an amendment. Now they didn’t give us
any notice of that amendment — let me be clear — but I will say that we all
supported the amendment that the government introduced.
And we were all able to unanimously —
unanimously, everybody; for those who don’t know, that means we all agreed —
supported that motion and allowed for it to be transmitted to the federal
government as our unanimous position. Again that means we all agreed, Mr.
Speaker, for the members in the back that seem to have forgotten, Mr. Speaker.
An
Hon. Member:
— Too much sarcasm.
Ms.
Sarauer:
— Yeah. Oh, I’ve got a lot more sarcasm in me. Trust me. My parents, who are
sitting in the gallery, could tell you a few things about how sarcastic I can
really get, if you’d like.
Now there are a few things that this
government opposite could be doing to provide real relief to Saskatchewan
families. Like we said, this government could walk and chew gum at the same
time. Now I know the Finance minister does know how to chew gum. I hope she can
walk and chew gum at the same time. Call on the federal government to stop
their regressive taxes that hurt Saskatchewan families, while at the same time
this provincial government could be providing real relief to Saskatchewan families
today.
And that’s what my colleague, the member
for Regina Rosemont, has put forward in his motion that he’ll be talking about
shortly. And I do hope that members opposite support that motion unanimously.
That means we all agree, Mr. Speaker. It’s a really good opportunity for this
government to provide real relief to Saskatchewan families today, Mr. Speaker.
Like my other colleague, the member for
Regina University, mentioned in her speech, families are really struggling
today. That is a true fact, Mr. Speaker. Everything has gotten more expensive.
Inflation is a real concern for families, whether it’s at the fuel pumps, the
grocery store, paying your mortgage, paying your utilities. On top of all of
that, trying to keep up with kids’ sports, any extras, are out the window for a
lot of families right now actually, Mr. Speaker.
Now the provincial government has a role
to play in the impacts that decisions happen on families’ pocketbooks, Mr.
Speaker, and a freeze on the gas tax could provide a real impact to families
who are struggling to fill their tanks today. It is a reality for a lot of
people out there who are having a hard time being able to fill their tanks to
even be able to make it to their jobs, to take their kids to school, let alone
to take their kids to sports, Mr. Speaker. It’s a very reasonable thing that
this government could be doing.
So like I said before, while this
government loves to point fingers, there are three pointing right back at them.
And there’s a lot that this government could be doing to help out Saskatchewan
families today. So next time this government wants to emphatically point a
finger at us, or emphatically point a finger at the federal government, go
ahead, but remember there are things that this government could be doing.
They’re choosing not to do it, Mr. Speaker, every single day, and that’s the
real tragedy.
The
Deputy Speaker:
— The 65‑minute period has expired. The 10‑minute period for the
question and answer period will begin. I recognize the member from Walsh Acres.
Mr. Clarke: — Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. To
the member from Cannington: you were in the Assembly on October 30th. Were you
not paying attention when every member of the Saskatchewan NDP voted to remove
the carbon tax?
The
Deputy Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Cannington.
Mr.
D. Harrison:
— Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I would point out that I was there and I voted
in favour of the amended motion and it was great. I’m just not sure if members
opposite know what the south end of a northbound horse is. They better look it
up. It’s very close.
The
Deputy Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Prince Albert Northcote.
Ms.
A. Ross:
— Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. This government is committed to providing
sustainable baseload power for our citizens. However our federal government is
one of the only members in the G7 [Group of Seven]
advocating for a timeline on shutting down coal production entirely. SaskPower
will be required to retire 1,400 megawatts of conventional coal-fired
generation by the end of 2029.
To the member from Regina Walsh Acres:
do you support the federal government’s commitment to end coal production by
the end of 2029? And if you do, what is your plan?
The
Deputy Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Walsh Acres.
Mr. Clarke: — Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Deputy
Speaker, and thank you for the question from the member opposite. You know, it
was the Harper government that brought in the regulations around closing the
coal power plants down in Estevan, and the Sask Party
government failed to come up with any kind of plan to help that community in
navigating that change to the economy. So I would say, I would put back on the
government who is in power right now, what is their plan to help the
communities in Estevan navigate to lose those coal power plants in due time?
Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The
Deputy Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina University.
Ms.
A. Young:
— Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Can the member for Cannington tell
me about a time when he was talking to a constituent of his who told him that
they were against the carbon tax but deeply enthusiastic about paying the
provincial fuel tax?
The
Deputy Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Cannington.
Mr.
D. Harrison:
— Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Our provincial fuel tax dollars, 15
cents a litre, is invested entirely — in fact we double invest that amount of
money — back into our highways. We’re proud to invest back in the province,
unlike the carbon tax that leaves the province.
The
Deputy Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Cypress Hills.
Mr.
Steele:
— Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. While the NDP claim that cutting the
provincial gas tax would reduce the cost of living for some of us and some
residents, they also have no consideration for how that would work on impacting
our roads. To the member from Walsh Acres: does he think that we should go back
to the times where his predecessor said that the Saskatchewan people should
fill the potholes in their roads?
The
Deputy Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Walsh Acres.
Mr. Clarke: — No, Mr. Deputy Speaker, we don’t
think that we should go back to people filling in the holes. But what we
propose, Mr. Speaker, is a break to the gas tax for six months to keep real
money in people’s pockets in the affordability crisis that they’re facing
today. Again this is the number one issue we hear on the doorstep across this
province that this government doesn’t seem willing to take seriously.
The
Deputy Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Douglas Park.
Ms.
Sarauer:
— Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. My question’s for the member for Arm River.
Does he understand that the Saskatchewan NDP has not and will not support the
carbon tax? Or does he need a refresher on the difference between a federal and
a provincial caucus?
The
Deputy Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Arm River.
Mr. Skoropad: — Well I think that it’s quite clear,
Mr. Deputy Speaker, that the members opposite do support a carbon tax. And just
the simple fact that they did an about-face and brought forth a motion that
really addressed one thing. They were a little bit upset with the fairness, the
fairness with which that carbon tax was being exempted from heating fuel.
They weren’t complaining and they
weren’t upset about the carbon tax, because we had that quote on record, Mr.
Speaker. I have the member from Walsh Acres, the Environment critic, saying,
“My take on the carbon tax? I am in favour of the carbon tax.” Mr. Speaker, the
motion said one thing, but certainly their actions leading up to that said
something clearly different.
The
Deputy Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Moosomin.
Mr.
Bonk:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the member from Regina Douglas Park, I’ll speak
very slowly, very clearly. I’ll use small words if you want. Despite the
Liberal and NDP government’s every attempt to make life more unaffordable for
the citizens of this province, and the fact that your member from Saskatoon Meewasin said that Saskatchewan has some of the lowest
utility rates in Canada provided by some of the best utilities that we have in
Canada, do you agree with the member from Meewasin
that Saskatchewan has some of the most affordable utility rates in Canada?
The
Deputy Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Douglas Park.
Ms.
Sarauer:
— I’m so glad to see that those folks over there finally let that member speak
on the record at some point today. Mr. Speaker, yeah, Saskatchewan at one point
had the lowest utility rates in Canada, and then that Sask
Party jacked them up. That’s the problem. The Sask
Party loves to jack up the rates of Saskatchewan residents.
The
Deputy Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Walsh Acres.
Mr. Clarke: — Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Does
the member from Arm River believe that we need to get to net zero by 2050 like
this government was promoting at PNWER last night?
And what is their plan to do so?
The
Deputy Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Arm River.
Mr.
Skoropad:
— Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Thanks for the question. So we’ve been on the
record. We’ve stated that we certainly are committed to achieving net zero by
2050. We have a plan. Our plan is laid out — well twofold, really — our plan’s
laid out in Prairie Resilience, so you might want to check that document
out. But also our plan is in supporting our most sustainable, most sustainable
industries to supply the world with those products, Mr. Speaker.
But let’s talk a little bit about their
plan. Their plan, quite clearly, is the carbon tax and capping away, reducing,
restricting. That’s their plan, Mr. Speaker, but certainly that is not the plan
on this side of the House.
The
Deputy Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Saskatoon Westview.
Mr.
Buckingham:
— Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. The NDP continues to have no plan to help
Saskatchewan people. While our government stands up to the unaffordable
policies supported by the members opposite, they just like to watch life get
more difficult as these policies pile up.
SaskPower estimates that under the clean
electricity regs, we will have to replace 64 per cent of our electrical grid
while expanding it. Their solution? Crickets, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
To the member from Regina Walsh Acres:
will you stand up today and tell Saskatchewan people how they should heat their
homes if 64 per cent of the grid is shut down?
The
Deputy Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Walsh Acres.
Mr. Clarke: — Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. And
thank you to the member opposite for the question. You know, Mr. Deputy
Speaker, there is incredible economic opportunity in this province to look to
the future of how we can generate electricity in a cleaner way.
Saskatchewan has the best capacity for
solar energy across this country. We have the potential for wind energy. We
have the potential for nuclear. We have the potential for all sorts of
different opportunities. And so absolutely we need to invest in fixing the
electrical grid that this government has neglected for 16 years. This is why,
this is why we’re in the state that we’re in, because of this government.
The
Deputy Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Regina University.
Ms.
A. Young:
— Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. To the member from Cut Knife-Turtleford:
did the member vote against fuel tax relief because they thought people didn’t
need it, or is it because the Finance minister simply doesn’t want to do it?
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The
Deputy Speaker:
— I recognize the member from Cut Knife-Turtleford . . . The 75‑minute
debate period has expired.
The
Deputy Speaker: — I recognize the member from Regina Rosemont.
Mr.
Wotherspoon: — Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
It’s a pleasure to enter in this afternoon to bring forward a motion to call on
this Assembly to support the cancellation of the provincial fuel tax both on
gas and diesel for a period of six months. And it’s a shame, I guess, that we have
to push this government in such a significant way to do anything on cost of
living, Mr. Speaker.
But I’m happy to bring forward this
motion here today, a very common-sense measure that would save families real
dollars at a time where families in Saskatchewan really are facing a crushing
cost of living, Mr. Speaker, a reality that’s an incredible burden for so many
families to carry. So many across this province — rural or urban or northern —
are carrying this heavy burden. And this is a reality that families know all
too well, and it creates enormous stress on the hard-working people of this
province, Mr. Speaker.
What’s unfortunate, Mr. Speaker, is
that, worse than doing nothing on this front, we have a provincial government,
that Sask Party government, that has made matters
worse, that has approached this once-in-a-generation cost-of-living challenge
for Saskatchewan families and that has failed to provide relief in any
meaningful way, but in fact has piled on with more taxes and more power bill
hikes for Saskatchewan people to pay for the mismanagement of this government.
You know, an awful thing as well that we
see from this government is that we have a premier and a Sask
Party that work to deny the reality that families know all too well across this
province, try to paint some sort of rosy picture for the hard-working people of
this province, when we know Saskatchewan people are facing a heavy burden on
this front.
We know that that burden is felt when
they go to the grocery stores, Mr. Speaker. We see that as well through food
bank usage that is through the roof, hard-working families that are forced to
access food for their families from the food banks. We know that pressure is
felt at the pumps, Mr. Speaker. And of course, this motion here today and the
action this government could take today would bring down those costs directly.
And in Saskatchewan, driving is a
necessity, Mr. Speaker. Whether you’re driving to work or whether you’re
driving your kids to activities or hockey, whether you’re connecting with
family or training, or whether you’re driving into town, driving is a necessity
in Saskatchewan. And when you’re facing a buck fifty or a buck sixty or a buck
forty a litre at the pumps on top of all of those other costs and the taxes
that have been imposed by this government, it puts Saskatchewan people in an
incredibly tough situation, Mr. Speaker.
I represent a lot of folks that are
working two and three jobs, Mr. Speaker, just to pay the bills, just to have
the utilities paid on time — utilities of course that have been jacked up three
times on the power front by this government in the last year during an
affordability challenge that’s once in a generation, Mr. Speaker — and dealing
with all those other costs of this government at the same time of course that
they’re facing the costs of financing, Mr. Speaker, the costs with their
mortgages, Mr. Speaker, as they’re facing renewals that are punishing and that
are a real stress for Saskatchewan people.
Now the reality is that this government
has the fiscal capacity to act. They also have a duty to act on these fronts,
Mr. Speaker. But provinces across Canada have acted on these fronts, providing
significantly more relief than the province of Saskatchewan.
And Saskatchewan has much greater fiscal
capacity on this front because the reality over these last couple years as
families have endured this incredible challenge with the cost of living is that
this province has enjoyed windfall revenues, Mr. Speaker. Revenues have been at
record highs, rolling into their coffers, Mr. Speaker. But it’s a different
reality of course for Saskatchewan families. It’s only fair that this province
act and extend some relief to the people of Saskatchewan.
With respect to the fuel tax itself, Mr.
Speaker, we see other provinces that have acted on this front. We see a
cancellation and reductions in other provinces. We see that next door in
Alberta, Mr. Speaker, to the west. We see that to the east in Manitoba. We see
that in Ontario. We see that in Newfoundland and Labrador, Mr. Speaker. So
other provinces have acted on this front, and again Saskatchewan is in the
unique situation where we have the fiscal capacity, a surplus, Mr. Speaker,
that puts us in a position to provide some relief for Saskatchewan people.
I just want to canvass the record of
this out-of-touch government, Mr. Speaker, briefly. This is a government that
has made the cost of living worse, that has been punishing to the hard-working
people of Saskatchewan, that has brought about the biggest tax hike in Saskatchewan’s
history, Mr. Speaker, where they stuck the PST on, well pretty much everything,
Mr. Speaker.
They’ve imposed the PST onto insurance
and children’s clothes, onto restaurant meals, Mr. Speaker. They’ve added it
onto grocery foods that are used as a staple for Saskatchewan families, Mr.
Speaker. They’ve added this tax, the PST, onto used cars and used trucks, Mr.
Speaker. And so many of the people across Saskatchewan that are struggling with
the cost of living and working so damn hard just to keep their heads above
water, Mr. Speaker, many of them certainly would be buying used cars and trucks
across this province, Mr. Speaker.
We see that they’ve stuck this PST onto
recreation, onto rodeos and curling and golf, Mr. Speaker, to Rider games and Agribition which is going to be here next week, Mr.
Speaker, those things that give us some pleasure in our lives, Mr. Speaker,
that bring us together as communities and that support local businesses.
That’s their record, Mr. Speaker, one of
hiking costs and hiking taxes despite having the fiscal capacity to go the
other way, Mr. Speaker. Now this is one measure today that this government can
support and something they could do today that would provide relief for
families starting tomorrow by reducing the burden on Saskatchewan families,
provide them a little bit of relief as they head into the winter season, into
the holiday season, Mr. Speaker.
Of course there needs to be other
measures as well to make life more affordable in Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker, to
address the very heavy burden of taxation that this government has stuck
Saskatchewan people with, all to pay for the mismanagement of this government
that we see on front after front — GTH to the bypass
through to overpaid hotel rooms and lavish trips to Dubai, Mr. Speaker, and so
much more, IT [information technology] projects that have gone sideways, Mr.
Speaker. So Saskatchewan people deserve and need some relief on this front.
The problem with the members opposite,
Mr. Speaker, is, you know, they make a lot of noise about say the federal
carbon tax. And we do not support that federal carbon tax and will make the
case, Mr. Speaker, for Saskatchewan in a heck of a lot more effective way than
they have that it doesn’t make sense for Saskatchewan.
Mr. Speaker, we saw it again just in the
75‑minute debate just moments before where members get up and grandstand
in this Assembly but have had no delivery for the people of Saskatchewan in
addressing that carbon tax that’s so unfair for this province, Mr. Speaker, so
unfair for producers and so unfair for families.
And we’ll work on this front to make
sure that we have relief and fairness for Saskatchewan with respect to the
unfair carbon tax, Mr. Speaker. But Saskatchewan people expect their government
to walk and chew gum at the same time, Mr. Speaker. And this is a government
that has the ability today — today, Mr. Speaker — not to just make a bunch of
noise in this Assembly, Mr. Speaker, not to send out hot tweets here today, Mr.
Speaker, but to actually cut the gas tax today for the people of Saskatchewan,
saving them over $350, Mr. Speaker, at a time where they’re facing such
pressures.
We know that Saskatchewan people deserve
nothing less. We’ll continue to push for affordability in Saskatchewan. We know
that in our province we have Saskatchewan people facing enormous pressure, and
we see that by way of mortgage arrears that are highest in the country, Mr.
Speaker, a reality that’s only going to get worse as people are dealing with
the high cost of interest, Mr. Speaker, and as they go to renew or refinance,
Mr. Speaker.
And we see it as well where we have by
way of any measurement, any polling, any research, Saskatchewan people
indicating that they’re facing a cost-of-living challenge that’s greater than
anywhere else in Canada, Mr. Speaker. It’s the number one issue facing
Saskatchewan people, the number one challenge. And we have a tone-deaf
government that’s unwilling to act, Mr. Speaker, in a responsible way to
provide Saskatchewan people the relief that they deserve.
So I’ll put my motion here today, Mr.
Speaker. I expect this government to not only support it, then act on it and
make sure that Saskatchewan people have the relief they need and deserve. What
we hope we don’t see, Mr. Speaker, is a government deny that support, a
government not act, Mr. Speaker, a government let this motion sit on the order
paper and move forward. Ultimately they would vote on it at some point, Mr.
Speaker.
What our expectation is on this front,
Mr. Speaker — and we reach out in an earnest and honest way on this front — is
that this government supports this motion and acts to cancel the tax on gas and
diesel for a six-month period of time, saving families hundreds of dollars, Mr.
Speaker, at a time that they need relief.
So at this point in time I’ll move my
motion:
That
the Assembly calls upon the government to suspend the collection of the
provincial fuel tax from gasoline and diesel for a period of six months in
order to help families struggling with the high cost of living.
I so submit.
The
Deputy Speaker:
— It has been moved by the member from Regina Rosemont:
That the Assembly calls upon the government to
suspend the collection of the provincial fuel tax from gasoline and diesel for
a period of six months in order to help families struggling with the high cost
of living.
Is the
Assembly ready for the question? I recognize the member from Douglas Park.
Ms. Sarauer: — Thank you,
Mr. Speaker. It’s my honour to rise in and enter into the debate on this
motion. And I’d like to thank my colleague, the member for Rosemont, for so
clearly laying out why this motion is a very reasonable and pragmatic solution
for Saskatchewan
families, something that we do hope that the Sask
Party government takes seriously and passes and implements expeditiously.
I know I have a lot of other colleagues
who are looking forward to entering into the debate on this motion. I am
prepared at this stage now to move to adjourn debate.
The
Deputy Speaker:
— The member from Regina Douglas Park has moved to adjourn debate. Is it the
pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some
Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
The
Deputy Speaker: — Carried. I recognize the Minister of Corrections, Policing
and Public Safety and Firearms Secretariat.
Hon.
Mr. Merriman:
— Thank you very much, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I move that this House do now
adjourn.
The
Deputy Speaker:
— The member has moved that this House do now adjourn. Is that the pleasure of
the Assembly?
Some
Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
The
Deputy Speaker:
— Carried. This Assembly stands adjourned until Monday afternoon at 1:30.
[The Assembly adjourned at 12:29.]
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