CONTENTS
Trailblazer in Child Care Makes a Difference
Safety and Health Week Fosters Safe Environments
Al Ritchie Community Association Makes the Holidays
Brighter
Honouring Prince Albert Sports Hall of Fame Inductees
Full Speed Ahead for Young Car Racer
Canola Breeding Facility Provides Opportunities for
Producers
Addictions Services and First Responders
Measures to Prevent Children’s Exposure to Drugs
Request for Head of Health Care Company to Appear at
Committee
Future of Information Services Corporation
Motion regarding Constituency Office Lease
Prevention of Damage to Highways due to Flooding
Restrictions on Farm Landownership
WITHDRAWAL OF ITEM OF BUSINESS
Bill No. 623 — The Building Code Regulations
(Henry’s Law) Amendment Act
PRESENTING REPORTS BY STANDING AND SPECIAL COMMITTEES
Standing Committee on House Services
Standing Committee on Crown and Central Agencies
FIRST AND SECOND READING OF AMENDMENTS
Bill No. 57 — The Information Services Corporation
Amendment Act, 2026
Bill No. 57 — The Information Services Corporation
Amendment Act, 2026
PRESENTING REPORTS BY STANDING AND SPECIAL COMMITTEES
Standing Committee on Intergovernmental Affairs and Justice
Bill No. 52 — The Heritage Property Amendment Act,
2026
PRESENTING REPORTS BY STANDING AND SPECIAL COMMITTEES
Standing Committee on Intergovernmental Affairs and Justice
Bill No. 54 — The Correctional Services Amendment
Act, 2026
PRESENTING REPORTS BY STANDING AND SPECIAL COMMITTEES
Standing Committee on Intergovernmental Affairs and Justice
FIRST AND SECOND READING OF AMENDMENTS

SECOND
SESSION — THIRTIETH LEGISLATURE
of
the
Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan
DEBATES
AND PROCEEDINGS
(HANSARD)
N.S. Vol. 67 No. 60A Wednesday,
May 6, 2026, 13:30
[Prayers]
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Trade and Export.
Hon. Warren
Kaeding: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to introduce, to you and to all members of
this Assembly, distinguished guests from the Italian Republic seated in your
gallery, Mr. Speaker.
It’s my honour to welcome His Excellency
Alessandro Cattaneo, the ambassador of Italy to Canada, who has served in this
role since December of 2024. Ambassador Cattaneo brings with him a
distinguished career in diplomacy, including senior roles in Rome and abroad,
with extensive experience in international security, NATO [North Atlantic
Treaty Organization] affairs, and global diplomatic relations.
Now joining him is Paolo Miraglia Del
Giudice, consul general of Italy in Vancouver, who has served Italy with
distinction across the globe, including postings in Brazil, Venezuela, China,
and the United Kingdom.
Mr. Speaker, we are also especially
proud to recognize a valued member of our own community here in Regina,
Sebastiano Deiana. Mr. Deiana has been a pillar of Saskatchewan’s Italian
community for decades. As president of the Italian cultural centre G. Marconi,
he has dedicated his life to preserving and promoting Italian language,
culture, and heritage. And his contributions have been recognized with the
honour of the Knight of the Order of Merit of the Italian Republic.
Mr. Speaker, Saskatchewan values its
strong cultural ties and enduring friendship with Italy. Today’s visit is a
testament of the importance of international partnerships, people-to-people
connections, and the vibrant Italian community that continues to enrich our
province. Our Provincial Secretary has had an engaging morning with our guests.
And I look forward to our meetings tomorrow morning, as well as a full day that
they’re going to have to experience Saskatchewan.
So I ask all members to join me in
extending a warm welcome to our Italian distinguished guests.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Deputy Leader of the Opposition.
Vicki Mowat: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s an honour to
join in with the minister opposite and, on behalf of the official opposition,
welcoming this delegation from the Italian Republic, specifically Alessandro
Cattaneo and Consul General Del Giudice. Thank you so much for joining us here
today, along with Sebastiano Deiana as well for joining at your legislature.
Thanks for all of your leadership.
We know that international partnerships are so
important to the success of our province, and that this relationship building
leads to always positive results for both sides. So I want to thank you for
spending time today in the legislature and for joining us for question period.
And I ask all members to join me in welcoming this delegation to the Assembly
today.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Advanced Education.
Hon. Ken
Cheveldayoff: —
Thanks, Mr. Speaker. I’d request leave for an extended introduction.
Speaker
Goudy: — Member has requested leave for an
extended introduction. Is leave granted?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Hon. Ken
Cheveldayoff: —
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker, colleagues. Being health and safety week, we
had a very exciting morning here in the legislature where we welcomed business
leaders, union leaders, community leaders to the legislature to talk about the
Workers’ Compensation Board and WorkSafe Saskatchewan and the rebranding for
WorkSafe Saskatchewan.
I have a few introductions of people in
the gallery, Mr. Speaker, led by Gord Dobrowolsky and Phil Germain, the
executive team at Workers’ Compensation Board; Gord being the Chair of the
board and Phil being the CEO [chief executive officer]. And I welcome them to
their Legislative Assembly and thank them for all the good work that they do
with the Workers’ Compensation Board.
We had many leaders from the province
here this morning. Many were not able to stay, but some were able. And I know
further to that introduction, in your gallery, Mr. Speaker, we have Ms. Lori
Johb, who is the president of the Saskatchewan Federation of Labour. And right
beside her we have Sean Tucker who is a professor of occupational health and
safety at the University of Regina. They were all there this morning as well,
Mr. Speaker.
And joining them, looking over all of us
to make sure that we are safe, is WorkSafe Bob. And I’m going to take a bit
here, Mr. Speaker. It’s an honour today to recognize a figure who has become a
true ambassador for safety in our province. WorkSafe Saskatchewan — the
partnership between the Ministry of Labour Relations and Workplace Safety and
the Workers’ Compensation Board — has been steadfast in the commitment to
protecting our workforce. In 2008 WorkSafe launched the Mission: Zero campaign,
and with it introduced a character now known in communities across the province
as WorkSafe Bob.
Mr. Speaker, Bob’s mission is simple yet
profound: to humanize our shared goal of eliminating every single workplace
injury and fatality. Whether he is leading the fourth quarter stretch at the
Saskatchewan Roughriders home games or visiting families at community events
across our province, WorkSafe Bob makes a critical conversation around safety
approachable for workers and employers alike.
Mr. Speaker, by using such a reliable
figure, WorkSafe Saskatchewan continues to champion the fundamental rights of
every worker — the right to know, the right to participate, and the right to
refuse unusually dangerous work. These rights were first enshrined in our
history in 1974 in this very legislature under the visionary leadership of the
late Bob Sass, whose work transformed occupational health and safety, not only
in our province but across North America.
Mr. Speaker, I had the opportunity to
get to know Bob a little bit, and I want to thank Bob Sass for all that he’s
done. And I know members on both sides of the House have had an opportunity to
work beside him, as Ms. Johb certainly has as well.
Today WorkSafe Bob stands as a modern
extension of that legacy, ensuring the spirit of occupational health and safety
remains at the forefront of our provincial identity. Bob’s unwavering
dedication to workplace safety and health has left a legacy that continues to
protect workers every day, and one which we remain deeply grateful.
So, Mr. Speaker, through you and to you,
on behalf of all my colleagues, I thank Bob and who he represents and all that
have participated in the ceremony this morning to make sure that Saskatchewan
retains that goal of making each and every day a safe workday. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Meewasin.
Nathaniel Teed: — Thank you very
much, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you, I would like to join the minister
opposite in welcoming all these folks who joined us today for a very special
event in the Saskatchewan Gallery, where we announced a rebrand of WorkSafe
Saskatchewan.
I’d like to join the minister in
welcoming Phil Germain, the CEO of Workers’ Compensation Board; Gord
Dobrowolsky, the Chair of the Workers’ Compensation Board; as well as Lori
Johb, president of the Saskatchewan Federation of Labour; and Sean Tucker, a professor
in the space of occupational health and safety.
And of course we had WorkSafe Bob with
us. But the costume, I hear, is a little too big to sit in the gallery. So he
made his appearance, and him and his entourage will likely be in the building
for a little while if folks want to get a photo.
I just want to thank the minister for
the invitation to attend the event today. And I want to thank all the folks who
joined downstairs and are joining us in the gallery here to celebrate health
and safety week here in Saskatchewan. So I’d ask all members to welcome these
folks to their Legislative Assembly.
And while I’m on my feet, Mr. Speaker,
it’s truly an honour to welcome the first school group that I’ve had the honour
of introducing in this Legislative Assembly. Coming all the way from Saskatoon,
this is a school group coming from North Park Wilson School. We have 40 grade
7/8 students in the galleries today, Mr. Speaker.
And I had the absolute honour of
speaking to this class earlier this week in advance of their trip to the
Legislative Assembly, outlining the role of an MLA [Member of the Legislative
Assembly], how the government works so that they would have an idea, kind of,
what they’d be witnessing. I also walked them through what the day in the
Chamber would like when they got here — introductions, petitions, members’
statements. Then the big show, question period, at the end.
I promise, Mr. Speaker, I will be on my
best behaviour today for my school group. But I just want to quickly welcome —
and give us a wave as I welcome you — we’ve got teacher Deanna Fast with us
today, teacher Meagan Dunn, and teacher Brittany Arsenault. They are joined by
the principal of North Park Wilson School, Kara Helms, as well as an
educational assistant working in the school, Erin Pederson. So Mr. Speaker,
without further ado I would ask all members to join me in welcoming this
fantastic group of students to their Legislative Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the Deputy Premier.
Hon. Jim
Reiter: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, to you and through you to this Assembly, I
am pleased to introduce a long-time public servant in your gallery, Mr.
Speaker, a long-time public servant. Mr. Speaker, we have Karen Bolen who will
be retiring after 15 years in the public service with the Government of
Saskatchewan. Mr. Speaker, she was with Social Services. The last five years
she was with cabinet secretariat, and she will be missed, Mr. Speaker.
We want to wish Karen well in her
retirement. She plans on spending time with her husband, Kevin, and her family
and, most of all, spoiling her grandkids. And we wish her very well. Ladies and
gentlemen please give her a warm welcome to her Legislative Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the member from Regina
Mount Royal.
Trent
Wotherspoon: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you it’s an honour to join with the
Minister of Finance to wish Karen a very happy and fulfilling retirement and to
thank her for her service to her province. On behalf of all in this Assembly, I
ask us to all come together and recognize Karen, Karen’s service, to thank her
for that service, and to wish her all the best into retirement.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Cut Knife-Turtleford.
James
Thorsteinson: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s always a great day when I get to introduce
constituents from the great constituency of Cut Knife-Turtleford. So to you and
through you to all members of the Assembly, I am pleased to introduce 22 grade
9 students from the heart of Cut Knife-Turtleford in the town of Maidstone.
They are accompanied by their teacher
Natasha Wicks and Brad Lejeune and parent chaperones Leah Allen — and I might
screw some of these names up, Mr. Speaker — Zena El-halabi, Melanie Schempp,
Maggie Rhinehart, Carter Makin, Travis Hutchison, and Kurtis Franks.
Now, Mr. Speaker, I had the opportunity
just about a week and a half ago to speak to the grade 8 class with Ms. Wicks
and speak to them. And last year I had the opportunity to speak to this class
when they were in grade 8. They asked some great questions when I was there. So
today I think we’re going to turn the tables a little bit. I’m going to ask
them some hard questions instead when I have the opportunity to meet with them
a little later after question period.
Traditions, yeah. Tradition is quite
often ice cream. The member from Lumsden-Morse likes his ice cream as a dairy
producer. I am not a dairy producer, Mr. Speaker, as I’m sure people well know.
I am a beef producer, so I have beef sticks for all the kids after question
period.
So, Mr. Speaker, I ask all members of
the Assembly to welcome these fine grade 9 students from Maidstone to this,
their Legislative Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Rochdale.
Joan Pratchler: — Request leave for
an extended introduction.
Speaker
Goudy: — She’s requested leave for an
extended introduction. Is leave granted?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Joan Pratchler:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you, I would
like to introduce Lucille Gilliland and her husband, Mark Gilliland, from Moose
Jaw. Lucille is not only a Canadian but a Saskatchewan pillar of child care.
She was born and raised in Moose Jaw and knows the families and community very,
very well.
Lucille always liked to work with
children, especially children with intensive needs, and had a special love for
working with children through inclusion, and medically fragile children. Her
family also volunteers in the community and within the child care sector as
well, because they understand the importance of early learning and child care
for formation years.
She continues to work in the Southwest
Day Care, which has been around since 1975. Lucille has many designations,
which has made her work so well respected over the years. She’s an independent
certified instructor in baby sign language. She’s a certified family educator
working with families and children, and learned much of this from supporting
her brother with cerebral palsy since childhood.
[13:45]
Lucille has received many accolades over
the years, many which I’ll mention in my member’s statement. And she’s very,
very proud of the one when she received the Prime Minister’s Award for early
child care and education.
It’s wonderful to see today that she’s
here with her husband. And with that I invite all members to join with me to
welcome Lucille and Mark to their legislature today.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Moose Jaw Wakamow.
Megan
Patterson: —
Hi. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Through you and to you, I would also just
like to welcome Lucille and Mark. They’re constituents of mine in Moose Jaw on
South Hill where I grew up. I’ve been to her daycare and she does a wonderful
job. And I just want to thank her for her dedication to child care. So everyone
please join me in welcoming Lucille and Mark again to their Legislative
Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Stonebridge.
Darcy
Warrington: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s a pleasure to be on my feet to join with the
member from Saskatoon Meewasin in welcoming these students from North Park
Wilson. North Park Wilson was the first school I ever taught at in Saskatoon,
so you might see my picture up on the wall from 2010.
But that’s not why I’m on my feet
necessarily, Mr. Speaker. Two colleagues of mine: Deanna Fast, who I worked
with at École College Park School, she is a very collaborative person and
worked well with a friend of mine, Ms. Kelleher. And I’ve known Ms. Helms, Kara
Helms, for a very long time. Is that okay if I say that? Ms. Helms has done so
much to shape music in our city. She was the arts ed coordinator for Saskatoon
Public Schools. And the ambitions that she has obviously has taken her to an
administrative level. But the people of Saskatoon think so highly of you, Ms.
Helms.
And I’d ask all members to join me in
welcoming North Park Wilson staff Deanna Fast and Kara Helms to this, their
Legislative Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — How about
we just go here just for a moment. I recognize the
member from Saskatoon Centre.
Betty
Nippi-Albright: —
Request leave for an extended introduction.
Speaker
Goudy: — The member has requested leave for
an extended introduction. Is leave granted?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Betty
Nippi-Albright: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to do a special recognition to a very special
person in my life, and that’s my husband, Ivan. He is not one to be involved in
the work that I do, and has always shied away from any involvement in the work.
And under the circumstances, you know, he came here today. You know, and when I
think about why I do the work I do, I wouldn’t be able to do that without the
support and love of my partner.
And
knowing that I don’t walk this journey alone means a lot. And having a loving
and supportive partner to journey this life, walk this life with, means a lot
to me. And I wouldn’t be able to have the strength and the courage to do what I
do without that love and support from my husband, who shies away from anything
politics and also just public. So for him to be here, to show support and his
love for me . . . I love you, you know. I love you.
And he does a lot of work in taking care
of me, in managing our home, in being there for our grandchildren, in being my
chauffeur at times. It’s wonderful. And I know it wasn’t easy for him to come
be here under the circumstances, but that’s the way he shows his love is to be
present, to be there. And for that I will always be grateful for his love and
support and for all that he does for me and our family.
So I ask all members to join me in
welcoming my husband, Ivan, to his legislature.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Carrot River Valley.
Terri Bromm: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. To you and through you, it’s my pleasure to welcome four grade 8
students and four grade 9 students from Pasquia Hills Christian School. Hi,
everybody. The school, located about 14 kilometres from Carrot River, has 34
students from kindergarten to grade 9. It’s over an eight-hour drive round trip
to get here today to be with us. So welcome again, everyone.
Today with them is their teacher Greta
Koehn. Accompanying them are Russell and Karla Wiens, Robert and Joanne Wiens,
Andrew and Kathrene Boese. And I really look forward to meeting with them and
answering some questions today. And I am going to follow the more traditional
treat and provide ice cream to our group here today. So I look forward to that.
And I’d like to ask all members in
joining me to welcome these fine folks here to our Legislative Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Community Safety.
Hon. Michael
Weger: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you, I have a few guests to
introduce today, Mr. Speaker. I’ll start with one seated up in your gallery.
It’s my constituency assistant, Krystal Heisler, and I welcome her to the
gallery today to watch proceedings live. I know she watches every day from our
constituency office back in Weyburn. And Krystal’s been a good friend,
co-worker, a very trusted individual that I’m very lucky to have known for many
years now.
And in turn, the constituents of
Weyburn-Bengough are very lucky to have her as a constituency assistant as
well. It seems like every time I’m back in the office, there’s another thank
you card on the shelf from someone who’s writing in to say that she assisted
them, or our office assisted them. So thank you to Krystal for being here
today.
And second, Mr. Speaker, up in the west
gallery I have my wife, Cara, and my youngest daughter Abigail. They’ve stopped
by today, Mr. Speaker, on their way to Medicine Hat for a dance competition.
Last weekend it was a hockey tournament here; this weekend it’s a dance
competition.
And just a little bit about Abigail, Mr.
Speaker: she’s a little bit shy, as you can see. But she’s really fallen in
love with politics, Mr. Speaker, and in particular question period. And I
believe she’ll be moving over to your gallery so she gets a better perspective
on question period here today. And one piece of feedback from Abigail: I think
she would like if, when she’s watching at home, she could control the camera,
Mr. Speaker, to see the entire Chamber. So do with that what you will, Mr.
Speaker.
And with that, Mr. Speaker, I’d just
like everyone to welcome Abigail, Cara, and Krystal to this, their Legislative
Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Advanced Education.
Hon. Ken
Cheveldayoff: —
Yeah, thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Second time around. I have noticed in
the Speaker’s gallery two community leaders known across Saskatchewan: Lise
Merle and Mike Couros. And I just want to thank both of you for all you do in
the province.
And I know Lise a bit. I know of her and
all the work that she does. Mike Couros, I know him. I got a lot on this guy, I
tell you. But he does so many things in the community of Saskatoon for sure.
And I think back to my early career. I think the first event that I did
officially as an MLA back in 2003 was Care & Share, and it was Mike Couros
and former MLA Ted Merriman and others that led that. And they provided school
lunches for students very quietly behind the scenes and did that.
So, Mr. Speaker, today I want to
recognize Lise Merle and Mike Couros for all that they do across the province,
and welcome them to their Legislative Assembly. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Centre.
Betty
Nippi-Albright: —
Sorry, Mr. Speaker. I request leave for an extended introduction.
Speaker
Goudy: — The member has requested leave for
an extended introduction. Is leave granted?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Betty
Nippi-Albright: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I just was notified of two people that just popped in
that are friends of mine. And they missed by a few minutes . . . As I
was introducing my husband, I didn’t realize that they just popped in here.
Anyway I want to introduce Allyson Schaefer and Lorne Gill that messaged and
said, we’re coming. And I was just notified that they’re here.
So it’s always wonderful to have people
that are supportive and also to have friends to come and listen to the
proceedings in the House. So thank you so much for your support, your
friendship, and surprising me with this visit here in the Chamber today. And
it’s very heartwarming.
So with that, thank you so much. And I
ask all members to join me in welcoming Lorne and Allyson to their Legislative
Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Wascana Plains.
Jared Clarke: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. I rise today to present a petition calling on the Saskatchewan
government to implement rent control now.
The undersigned residents of the
province wish to bring to our attention the following: that Saskatchewan
tenants are currently experiencing the highest level of rent increases in the
country; that without rent control landlords can implement unchecked rent
hikes, making housing increasingly unaffordable and unstable; that with rent
control residents can budget more effectively, potentially putting them in a
position to save for a down payment on their first home; that provinces such as
British Columbia, Manitoba, Ontario, and Prince Edward Island have already
implemented rent control measures to protect tenants and maintain housing
affordability.
Mr. Speaker, I’ll read the prayer:
We, in the prayer
that reads as follows, respectfully request that the Legislative Assembly of
Saskatchewan call on the Government of Saskatchewan to adopt fair and effective
rent control that limits annual rent increases, ensures housing stability, protects
tenants from being priced out of their homes.
Mr. Speaker, the signatories today
reside in Regina. I do so present.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Silverspring.
Hugh Gordon: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. I rise today to present a petition to the Legislative Assembly to
enact an advocate for persons with disabilities Act.
We, the undersigned residents of the
province of Saskatchewan, wish to bring to your attention the following: that
24.6 per cent of the Saskatchewan population have a disability; that barriers
and obstacles to full and equal participation and inclusion are social,
attitudinal, physical, financial, and policies and practices that make it
difficult for people with disabilities to achieve full and equal participation
and inclusion in society; that Alberta put forward the Advocate for Persons
with Disabilities Act in 2017.
The Government of Saskatchewan’s 2015
disability strategy recommends supporting inclusion by a mechanism to address
systemic issues. Options include developing a vulnerable persons commissioner
or advocate. That an office of the advocate for persons with disabilities
should (1) report directly to the Legislative Assembly; (2) undertake
independent, individual, and systemic reviews, investigations, and reporting;
(3) initiate and oversee examinations of government policy, practice, or
legislation; and (4) provide guidance on available disability supports and
services.
Mr. Speaker, the signatories to this
petition reside in Regina and White City. I do so present.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon
University-Sutherland.
Tajinder
Grewal: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise to present a petition to fix the crisis in
health care.
The undersigned residents of the
province of Saskatchewan wish to bring to your attention the following: that in
the past five years the health care closures across rural Saskatchewan
disrupted services for a total of 8,613 days; that 3,953 of those days were
disruptions to Saskatchewan emergency rooms; that Saskatchewan has the longest
wait times for knee and hip replacement surgeries; that Saskatchewan people
deserve to have adequate and accessible health care where and when they need
it.
With that, Mr. Speaker, I’ll say the
prayer that reads as follows:
Respectfully
request that the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan call on the Government of
Saskatchewan to immediately address the short-staffing crisis in health care
and work with health care workers on solutions to improve patient care.
The petition has been signed by
residents of Saskatoon. I do so present. Thank you.
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from Regina
Coronation Park.
Noor Burki: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. I rise to present our petition to proclaim October of each year as
Islamic Heritage Month.
[14:00]
We, the undersigned residents of the
province of Saskatchewan, wish to bring to your attention the following: that
Islam is the second-most common religion in Saskatchewan, accounting for 2 per
cent of the population; that between the 2001 census and the 2021 census, the
Muslim population of Saskatchewan grew elevenfold; that the Muslim organization
in Canada was first registered in Regina, Saskatchewan in 1934 by Lebanese
immigrants; that Muslims across the province contribute to Saskatchewan’s
culture, economy, and community; that the Muslim community must currently
reapply every year to have October recognized as Islamic Heritage Month; that
the Government of Canada, Alberta, Ontario, Manitoba, and Newfoundland and
Labrador have all proclaimed October as Islamic Heritage Month.
We, in the prayer
that reads as follows, respectfully request the Legislative Assembly of
Saskatchewan proclaim October of each year as Islamic Heritage Month.
Mr. Speaker, the signatories of this
petition reside in Regina. I do so present.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod:
— I recognize the member from Regina Rochdale.
Joan Pratchler: — Thank you, Mr.
Deputy Speaker. I rise today to acknowledge an icon of child care, Lucille
Gilliland, who has been a leader and a trailblazer in the field of child care,
not only in Moose Jaw but in Saskatchewan and Canada.
She’s currently the executive director
of the Southwest Day Care and Early Learning Centre in Moose Jaw, and she’s
worked there for many, many years — nearly 40 years. Her focus has always been
creating a safe and inclusive daycare for children with special needs and those
that are medically fragile.
Lucille has been recognized for her work
many, many times. Here are some of her highlights. The Prime Minister’s Award
for early child care and education, regionally in 2003 and again in 2013. She’s
only one of a few people to receive an award more than once. She’s also
received the 2020 Queen’s Platinum Jubilee medal for her work in the industry,
the RCAF [Royal Canadian Air Force] 100‑year pin for work in the
community, and most recently her centre has received Rick Hansen inclusion and
accessibility certification, one of only two in Saskatchewan.
Lucille, you and your family are proof
that when a kind heart, hard work, and perseverance meet, anyone can make a
difference. And Lucille is surely a shining example of that. Congratulations,
Lucille.
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Dakota-Arm River.
Barret Kropf: — Thank you, Mr.
Deputy Speaker. I rise today to recognize Safety and Health Week, taking place
from May 4th to the 9th. This important week reminds us that preventing injury
and illness is a shared responsibility whether at work, at home, or in our
communities.
Safety is fundamental to keeping
Saskatchewan strong, proactive, and growing. When we prioritize health and
safety, we support workers, families, and businesses, and we help ensure that
everyone can return home safely at the end of the day. Our government believes
in protecting Saskatchewan, and that begins with putting Saskatchewan residents
first. By putting safety, health, and well-being as a priority, we help make
this province the best place to live, work, and raise a family.
Safety and Health Week is an opportunity
for us all as employers, employees, and citizens across Saskatchewan to pause,
reflect, and renew our commitment to fostering safe environments and a strong
culture of prevention.
I encourage everyone to take the time
this week to focus on safety, look out for one another, and help build a safer
workplace and healthier communities. Everyone deserves to be safe and healthy,
and together we can make that a reality this week and every day. Thank you, Mr.
Deputy Speaker.
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from Regina
Douglas Park.
Nicole Sarauer: — Mr. Deputy
Speaker, I rise today to highlight the Al Ritchie Community Association’s
annual holiday drive. The Al Ritchie Community Association does incredible work
all year round, but their impact is most apparent during the holiday season
when the need is so great.
In Saskatchewan household budgets are
already extremely tight. For many families in our communities, the ability to
cover the added cost of gifts, warm clothing, and food during the holidays is
simply out of reach.
This is why the Al Ritchie Community
Association sources, organizes, and distributes donations of toys, warm winter
clothing, and food every year around the holiday season. These donations make a
world of difference for so many community members, as they help folks face the
cold winter months and provide families with supplies that make the holidays
feel special.
I had the privilege of spending time
with the dedicated staff and volunteers this past year as they sorted and
distributed donations of food, clothing, and gifts for countless community
members who braved the frigid weather to access support.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, I ask that all
members join me in thanking the Al Ritchie Community Association, the
incredible staff, and the selfless volunteers for working tirelessly to make
the holiday season brighter for so many. Thank you.
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from Prince
Albert Carlton.
Kevin Kasun: — Thank you, Mr.
Deputy Speaker. This past weekend, both the Minister Responsible for Parks,
Culture and Sport and I were very happy to attend the 2026 Prince Albert Sports
Hall of Fame 34th induction banquet. Mr. Deputy Speaker, it was a wonderful
event hosted by Mitch Holash with Dave Monette starting off the evening with
bagpipes and greetings from Saskatchewan’s Sports Hall of Fame executive
director Erin Stankewich and Prince Albert Sports Hall of Fame president Barry
Mihilewicz.
We saw athletes like Joel Mihilewicz in
racquetball; Katelyn Lehner in track and field. And as a side note, not only an
athlete, Katelyn did an amazing job singing the national anthem.
Leah Tyree in volleyball, basketball,
and track and field; builders Randy Emmerson and Tim Leonard in multi-sport and
hockey. For meritorious service in multi-sport, football, and rodeo, Carol
Soles and Rusty Clunie. We celebrated the 2013‑2014 Mintos AAA hockey
team, and the World Cup of Softball host committee which was named Sports
Organization of the Year.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, evenings like this
are always a good reminder of what community is really all about. It’s about
families, coaches, teammates, and volunteers who make it all possible, people
show up supporting one another and helping create opportunities for others to
succeed. I’d like to take this moment to congratulate all the inductees. They
should be very proud of what they have accomplished and the impact they have
had. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Silverspring.
Hugh Gordon: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. I rise today to speak about public safety. People of my constituency
are worried. They feel their streets aren’t as safe as they once were.
A stroll through downtown Saskatoon
proves the point. Never thought I’d see the day when businesses on a major
downtown street must keep their doors locked during business hours, yet
entrepreneurs are now forced to lock customers out to protect their staff and
patrons from violent crime. That is where we are.
Downtown businesses, the backbone of our
communities, are being advised by police to lock their doors against the
desperate, the violent, and increasingly the ill. Never before have I seen such
urgent need on our streets — the need for physical and mental health services,
for in-patient addiction care, and for housing.
We must heal the sick, not abandon them
to the streets, and yet this Sask Party government offers no relief. There’s no
plan to address these health and social crises. No plan to heal the sick, feed
the hungry, or house the unhoused. Only more downloading onto our communities
and allowing constituents to continue living in fear. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Martensville-Blairmore.
Hon. Jamie
Martens: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Imagine being just nine years old and already chasing
speed, competition, and big dreams. That’s exactly where Carter Neudorf’s
journey began. In 2022 Carter hit the track for the very first time. He didn’t
just show up; he made an impression, finishing third overall and earning Rookie
of the Year.
Year after year, he’s gotten only
faster, sharper, and more determined. You’ll find Carter spending countless
hours at Sutherland Automotive Speedway, not just racing but truly living the
sport. And he’s gone beyond the driver’s seat — volunteering, giving back, and
even stepping into the NASCAR [National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing]
pit this summer. That’s not something many racers can say.
He’s been inspired by incredible role
models like Blake Erb, Matthew Shirley, and Udi Saadon, learning from the best
and pushing himself to be even better. 2025, his fourth year racing, what a
year it was. He brought home the Bandoleros championship at just 13 years old.
While most kids are figuring out what they want to try next, Carter is flying
around the track at 100 kilometres an hour, loving every single second of it.
Full speed ahead; go get ’em, Carter.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Cut Knife-Turtleford.
James
Thorsteinson: —
Thank you. It’s another great day in Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker. Earlier this
year I rose in the House to speak about BASF’s $27 million investment to
expand their Saskatoon canola breeding facility. And today I’m very happy to
inform the House that they’ve turned the sod and started work on this momentous
project. The expansion will add advanced infrastructure like
precision-controlled growth systems and a research-grade glasshouse.
Mr. Speaker, canola is a critical crop
for our value-added agriculture, and investments from major companies like BASF
shows how much confidence there is in this province’s producers. It was thanks
to this Premier working together with our federal and international partners
that got tariffs reduced on our canola products.
Mr.
Speaker, investments like this mean more jobs and more opportunities for our
producers. But with BASF’s announcement, we’re still seeing the positive
results of that trade deal. By expanding its research capabilities in
Saskatchewan, BASF is strengthening its ability to deliver differentiated
solutions that can drive greater yields, improve disease protection, and offer
overall enhanced performance for farmers.
Mr.
Speaker, on behalf of the Government of Saskatchewan, thank you to BASF. And
thank you to their work for over 625 Saskatchewan employees for the good work
they do. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Speaker,
Saskatoon firefighters are overrun responding to drug overdose calls. In April
there were 680 calls in that city alone. That’s nearly one drug overdose call
every hour and every day of that month.
Still, Mr. Speaker, we see nothing in
terms of the desperately needed investment in front-line resources from that
Premier. What is it going to take for him to act?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — That’s simply not
the case, Mr. Speaker. In this province we have traditionally had about 500
recovery beds. We have built out 300 additional recovery beds across the
province, intensive recovery beds. Two hundred more in this very budget, which
the members voted against but have the opportunity this week or next to redeem
themselves and vote for the appropriation, for the dollars to be invested into
those 200 intensive recovery beds, Mr. Speaker.
Over 100 municipal police officers, 180
RCMP [Royal Canadian Mounted Police] officers, and Saskatchewan Marshals
Service building their capacity, Mr. Speaker, to keep our communities safe.
Over 30 of those municipal officers are right in the city of Saskatoon.
Front-line officers to support the safety in the community, to support those
individuals that may be living a life of addictions and to help us — each of us
as individuals and a government — to provide those recovery opportunities for
those very individuals, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Speaker, let’s
talk about the record of failure of that Premier and that government. The
firefighters themselves, they say that this massive spike in overdoses comes in
the wake of the sudden closure of Prairie Harm Reduction last month, Mr.
Speaker, when more than 100 front-line health care workers providing needed
services were sidelined in this crisis without warning. Right now in Saskatoon
alone we see 400 vacant health care positions.
Mr. Speaker, these are people who should
be working on the front lines of this crisis, who we need to be working on the
front lines of this crisis. Why has this Premier failed to hire all of these
workers so they can get to work saving lives in that city?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — I think the member
opposite is alluding to the closure of Prairie Harm Reduction, a safe injection
site that was never funded by the Government of Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker. Not
once were we funding that particular site, Mr. Speaker.
As the minister said on numerous
occasions, and in this very budget, there are 200 additional recovery beds.
That is the focus of this government, is to provide a recovery opportunity for
individuals that are living a life of addiction, if they so choose, and support
the work that is happening at those recovery centres, Mr. Speaker. There are
many, many employment opportunities to fill those 200 intensive recovery beds,
intensive recovery sites, to provide that opportunity for recovery for
individuals in this province, Mr. Speaker.
We have a very focused plan. It’s
focused on building 500 intensive recovery beds, Mr. Speaker, and supporting
our enforcement agencies so that they can stop the drugs from coming into our
communities and coming into our province. We need to prevent these poisonous
drugs from coming into our province and into our communities, and prevent these
drugs from being available to our friends and family members, Mr. Speaker. That
is the approach of the government. It’s a very focused approach, and it’s one
that we invested in in this budget.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Speaker, that
Premier’s plan is failing the people of this province. Now we’ve asked that
Premier for over a week now when those drug treatment spaces, those additional
spaces, will become available.
[14:15]
The Premier himself has admitted that
the existing spaces in this province are nearly full. We know that people are
waiting weeks and weeks for life-saving care that they need.
Mr. Speaker, is this Premier actually
comfortable with people in this province waiting for weeks for life-saving
care? And why, Mr. Speaker, won’t he apologize for failing the people of this
province every step of the way during this drug crisis?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Speaker, as I
said, we have been investing — and I would say investing heavily — in building
out to our commitment of 500 intensive recovery sites across this province, Mr.
Speaker. And they are looking to hire people to ensure that those sites can come
online this fiscal year. They’re funded in this budget.
As I said, the NDP [New Democratic
Party] has an opportunity to correct in my opinion what was a wrong in voting
against this budget, vote for the appropriations bill. We have a very focused
plan. We’ve discussed that on the floor of this Assembly, Mr. Speaker.
From what our understanding is, is that
the opposition also has a plan that was funded by the taxpayers of the
province. They have a secret drug report, Mr. Speaker, and we’d ask the Leader
of the Opposition to table it today.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Speaker, the
recommendations of that secret report were discussed in committee for five
hours. I suggest the Premier check the record, Mr. Speaker.
Failure is the record of that Premier on
this issue. This Premier also has failed to take the necessary action to learn
from the heartbreaking deaths of children in this province — 13 children who
died due to exposure to toxic drugs. Mr. Speaker, the number one responsibility
of his government, of any government, is to protect the most vulnerable, our
youngest citizens. These were babies, Mr. Speaker.
Will the Premier, will he today launch a
formal review of every single one of these deaths so that we can get to work
making sure that a heartbreaking tragedy like a child dying from exposure to
toxic drugs never happens again in this province?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Speaker, the
way to keep children safe, the way to keep residents in this province safe, is
to remove the poisonous drugs that are in our communities. That’s why we
invested in 100 additional municipal police officers. Over 30 of those are in
the . . . Well the member opposite talks about ideology, Mr. Speaker.
This is a government that is focused on investing in our enforcement officers,
front-line enforcement officers in community after community across this
province to ensure that they have the resources, they have the resources, Mr.
Speaker . . .
[Interjections]
Speaker
Goudy: — I’m just going to ask you to be
listening careful to the responses, please, and we’ll listen good to the
questions as well.
Hon. Scott Moe: — They have the
resources to take those drugs away and stop those drugs from coming into our
communities, Mr. Speaker. For those that unfortunately are already living a
life with addictions, we have a very concrete and definitive plan on building
our intensive recovery capacity out to 500 beds in this province.
What I was alluding to the other day,
Mr. Speaker, unfortunately given the level of drugs that has entered our nation
— entered our continent largely, but entered our nation, our province, and our
provincial communities — we will likely have to go beyond those 500 intensive
beds to ensure that we have the capacity and the access points through urgent
care centres and complex-needs facilities to ensure that people are able to
voluntarily access those 500 beds or whatever we need to build to, Mr. Speaker.
And in addition to that, we have a small
number of people that will fall under The Compassionate Intervention Act,
again voted against by the members opposite just yesterday, Mr. Speaker. An Act
that was asked for by municipal leaders, Indigenous leaders, police chiefs, and
— most important — families asking for the opportunity to intervene and provide
their loved ones with a life of recovery.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Walsh Acres.
Jared Clarke: — Thank
you, Mr. Speaker. Now that Premier can’t seem to get it together. Earlier this
week we submitted a letter to the Chair of the Human Services Committee
requesting that the CEO of EHN be called to appear before the committee. Now
yesterday we asked the Premier to respond, and the Premier flat out denied such
a letter existed.
Now his members, Mr. Speaker, can log in
to something called MLA portal, and they can see that letter, which was
uploaded before the House sat yesterday. Now you can only assume that they’re
not reading their emails.
So can the Premier get his facts
straight today? And more importantly, will he call for the CEO of EHN to
testify at committee?
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Speaker, I
believe the Chair of the committee received a letter at some point after 2:30
yesterday afternoon, after question period. So, Mr. Speaker, when the member
asks for us to get our facts straight, maybe he could look in the mirror.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Walsh Acres.
Jared Clarke: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. Now if the Premier or the committee Chair are having trouble accessing
MLA portal, there is a clearly labelled button on the log-in page. And it
reads, and I quote, “Forget your password?” So perhaps they should click on
that and they could read the letter.
But we are trying to get answers out of
an unelected individual who oversees many of the mental health and addiction
treatment spaces in this province, a man who models his treatment around aerial
combat in the Korean War. And this government can’t even check their emails.
So why won’t the Premier take this drug
crisis seriously and allow the CEO of EHN to answer questions before the
committee?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Mental Health and
Addictions.
Hon. Lori Carr: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. Our government is focused on ensuring that people struggling with
addictions challenges can get access, and timely access, Mr. Speaker. That is
why we work with community partners. These partners are chosen through a
process of qualified companies. It’s rigorous, it’s fair, and it’s competitive.
[Interjections]
Speaker
Goudy: — Order, please.
Hon. Lori Carr: — Mr. Speaker, these
are the types of services that we’re providing here in the province of
Saskatchewan to help people get into that life of recovery through those
addictions treatment spaces that the Premier’s been talking about. And we won’t
apologize for the services that we’re providing to offer families hope, Mr.
Speaker, with a bed and recovery.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina South Albert.
Aleana Young: — You know, Mr.
Speaker, later today we’re due to vote on the Sask Party’s bill to sell off ISC
[Information Services Corporation of Saskatchewan]. It’s a bill of broken Sask Party promises, and these promises are
going to drive up costs for Saskatchewan people.
The members
opposite, they promised that no one beyond the people of Saskatchewan would
ever own more than 15 per cent of ISC. Promise broken. They promised that the
data of Saskatchewan people would never leave these borders. Promise broken.
They promised that jobs would stay here. And, Mr. Speaker, promise broken.
Why is the
Minister of CIC [Crown Investments Corporation of Saskatchewan] breaking all of
those promises that Premier Brad Wall and the Sask Party made a few short years
ago?
Speaker Goudy: — I recognize the Minister of CIC.
Hon. Jeremy
Harrison: — Well thank
you. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I would encourage the members to
actually read the bill. The bill was put in place to make sure that the
protections for the Saskatchewan public are enhanced.
That is why we
are ensuring, through the golden share, the head office remains right here in
Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker. That’s why we’re ensuring through legislation that
jobs remain right here in Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker. That’s why we’re including
in the legislation provisions to make sure that the intellectual property
managed by ISC stays right here in Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker.
That’s why
we’re adding a provision to the golden share that makes sure that the master
services agreement is not just a contract, but it’s legislated, Mr. Speaker, to
make sure that those services remain in place for the people of this province.
Those members need to actually read the bill.
Speaker Goudy: — I recognize the member from Regina South Albert.
Aleana Young: — Mr. Speaker, this sell-off is going to mean higher
costs for Saskatchewan people. Anybody starting a business, buying or selling a
home or a farm — it’s going to raise their costs. All of this is going to get
more expensive after ISC is taken over by a private company. Fees will go up
when these out-of-province investors jack them up to maximize profit, squeezing
families, farms, and small businesses for every dollar they can.
Now, Mr. Speaker, under this minister’s
plan, that’s a feature, that’s not a bug. So, Mr. Speaker, just who is this
minister working for? Is he working for the people of Saskatchewan, or is he
working to ease the way for a giant, out-of-province, Quebec-based private
company?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of CIC.
Hon. Jeremy
Harrison: —
Well these members demonstrate day after day why nobody takes them seriously,
including their own MLAs, Mr. Speaker . . .
[Interjections]
Speaker
Goudy: — Order, please.
Hon. Jeremy
Harrison: —
Well, Mr. Speaker, these members demonstrate day after day why they are taken
seriously by nobody, including members of their own caucus . . .
[Interjections]
Speaker
Goudy: — Member from Saskatoon Chief
Mistawasis, I’d like to call you to order, please.
Hon. Jeremy
Harrison: —
Well, Mr. Speaker, again they demonstrate over and over again why they’re taken
seriously by nobody. The reality is that we are strengthening the provisions of
the master services agreement, which contains the prices in the long term over
30 years, Mr. Speaker. And that is not just in the contract now. That is
actually being moved into the legislation.
I would say, Mr. Speaker, again these
members need to actually read the bill and what it does, because that member
actually introduced an amendment yesterday that would mandate the renegotiation
of that contract. We have a 30‑year agreement in place, and we’re going
to keep it.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Cumberland.
Jordan McPhail: — Well thank you
very much, Mr. Speaker. I have to say that in my time as the shadow minister
for ethics and democracy, I have found that one important tool for ensuring
transparency and openness when it comes to this government is through using
ISC. And let me tell you, you can learn a lot there.
Transparency is something that is in
short supply with this Sask Party government. This morning I moved a motion to
release the lease for the member from Saskatoon Willowgrove, but that was voted
down by government members.
Why did the Sask Party government vote
against transparency at committee this morning?
Speaker
Goudy: — Next
question. I recognize the member from Saskatoon Stonebridge.
Darcy
Warrington: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This province is feeling the effects of the Sask Party
government’s cuts to highways — a dozen or so impassable roadways today, Mr.
Speaker. But they have cut the highways capital budget by $20.5 million.
They cut the capital spending for dams and water supply channels by 16 per
cent.
Now families are displaced. So many
highways have been washed away. Communities in states of emergency. That
minister failed to prepare. Now the people of Saskatchewan pay the price.
Why did that minister cut the highway
capital budget?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Highways.
Hon. Kim
Gartner: — Well thank
you, Mr. Speaker. And I want to once again extend my appreciation to our
highway teams. The road crews have been out all weekend and all week, working
around the clock to ensure the safety of all motorists, quickly responding to
changing conditions. Motorists are advised to check the Highway Hotline before
they head out, and travel conditions are changing constantly.
The Ministry
of Highways will continue to work beside the SPSA [Saskatchewan Public Safety
Agency], WSA [Water Security Agency] to provide updates as needed. The ministry
also remains in contact with many affected municipalities and communities to
ensure the most up-to-date information is available.
And yes, Mr.
Speaker, once the water levels begin to recede, damages will be assessed and
repairs will be made to ensure continued safety for all those using our
highways.
Speaker Goudy: — I recognize the member from Saskatoon Stonebridge.
Darcy
Warrington: — Thank you,
Mr. Speaker. It’s unfortunate people have to use the Highway Hotline in the
spring as opposed to in the winter when they normally would be.
But that being
said, despite taking in hundreds of millions of dollars via the gas tax, there
are, as I said, a dozen or so impassable highways that need immediate repair
today. It’s unfair to ask the people of this province to pay the price for
something the government won’t invest in. They tax the drivers 15 cents a litre
— most residents using over 1800 litres a year, Mr. Speaker — and fail to
provide safe and reliable highways.
Now families
and their communities pay the price. Is that minister satisfied with his flood
season prep?
Speaker Goudy: — I recognize the Minister of Highways.
[14:30]
Hon. Kim
Gartner: — Well thank
you, Mr. Speaker. Our budget this year for the Ministry of Highways is
$764 million. That budget will continue to improve the safety and enhance
key transportation corridors for this growing province.
Our capital
budget this year is $401 million. This year’s budget will improve more
than 850 kilometres of provincial highways. In the seventh year of our
Saskatchewan growth plan, we will build and upgrade 10 000 kilometres by
the year 2030. We are now at 7900 kilometres and well on track to
meet our target.
I would ask the members opposite
. . . In your recent NDP campaign platform in 2024, you did not even
mention highways once despite billions of promises of spending in other areas.
Mr. Speaker, I ask them to pick a lane.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Athabasca.
Leroy
Laliberte: — Well thank
you, Mr. Speaker. Just to let that minister know, the lanes are washed out
right now.
And to no
surprise, that minister also cut the funding to northern Saskatchewan, Mr.
Speaker. Northern communities are forced from their homes today and being
evacuated. Over 26 communities have declared a state of emergency. Sturgeon
Lake First Nation has also joined in declaring a state of emergency today, Mr.
Speaker.
Now I want to say this, Mr. Speaker:
there’s some roads in northwestern Saskatchewan that I brought up before that
had a 20‑year lifespan and that started in the ’70s. So there’s a road at
the Patuanak English River right now that has washed away in five different
places. Now that’s a road that I’ve brought up numerous times in this Assembly,
Mr. Speaker. Road into Beauval. Road into Pinehouse. Smooth Stone bridge washed
away last night.
Now if this government did something
properly in the 19 or 20 years that they’ve been government, that road would
have been fixed already, Mr. Speaker.
So my question, Mr. Speaker, is that the
North does need reliable highways. They need reliable highways today. In case
of emergency, these people are stuck in their communities, Mr. Speaker. They
only have one road in and one road out. Why is the minister not supporting
these northern communities? And why is he continuing to cut the highways
funding?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Highways.
Hon. Kim
Gartner: —
Mr. Speaker, you know, we don’t dedicate funding to any specific areas within
the budget. It is a global highways budget. But we do take very serious the
ability for our northern residents to safely and reliably travel between
communities to services and to the rest of the province. That will always be a
priority.
Mr. Speaker, this year’s budget has more
than $86.3 million to build, operate, and maintain northern
infrastructure, which is consistent with the five-year average of over
$80 million annually. Over the past 10 years, the ministry has invested over
$72 million in maintenance and capital improvements on Highway 102, 123,
and 135. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Mount Royal.
Trent
Wotherspoon: —
Mr. Speaker, Monette Farms, a corporate mega-farm with massive Saskatchewan
land holdings, has fallen into financial trouble and is in creditor protection
with many impacts on producers and the province. This operation has been touted
as the future of agriculture by the Premier and the Agriculture minister.
This is also at a time when producers
are facing skyrocketing input costs with fertilizer and fuel prices soaring and
challenging commodity prices. All the while, this government has been lax on
illegal foreign farm-landownership and permitting the consolidation and
purchase of farm land by large investment trusts and funds.
We need to urgently act to bring
together the agriculture community, producers, and their organizations. Will
this government work with us to urgently convene a special committee to focus
on agriculture, including the creditor protection of this mega-farm and its
impacts, the soaring costs of inputs, and economic fundamentals of farming and
farm landownership? Quite simply sitting on their hands and looking the other
way isn’t serving the interests of producers.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Agriculture.
Hon. David
Marit: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Being a farmer all my life and still owning farm land
today, nobody wants to see a farmer in financial difficulty. And that’s an
issue that obviously that entity will work through with their financial
institution in how they want to work it.
That’s why our government has taken farm
landownership very, very seriously, Mr. Speaker. That is why we strengthened
the regulations prior to. That is why we implemented all the recommendations
from the Provincial Auditor. All nine of them have been implemented. Obviously
everyone has to sign a declaration now in the purchase of farm land.
That is why we’ve also engaged with the
industry now to do a fulsome review of the farm land security Act. That is
ongoing now. We’ll probably carry on right through to fall and until early next
year. The recommendations that will come forward through all of that
consultation will be something that our government will graciously have a very
good look at and see if there’s changes that have to be made that can be made,
Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Cumberland.
Jordan McPhail: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. The Sask Party has promised time and time again that they won’t sell
off our Crowns. Today what is clear is that Sask Party government plans to sell
off ISC. Promise made, promise broken.
On this side of the House, we will do
everything in our power to protect and bolster our Crowns. As shadow minister
for SaskTel, I can’t help being concerned for that minister’s future plans.
To that minister: will he commit on
record right now that SaskTel will never be sold?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of CIC.
Hon. Jeremy Harrison: — Well, Mr. Speaker,
we’ve been very, very clear. SaskTel is not for sale.
But
what they have not been clear about is SaskPower. They stood up in the House
last week and advocated for the deregulation of the electricity market in this
province, which by necessity would mean the privatization of SaskPower, Mr.
Speaker. That is something that is never going to
happen because of the fact that we have been able to use our Crowns to attract
$60 billion of investment, including — under construction right now — a
$12 billion data centre, the third-biggest project in the history of
Canada, which they’re opposed to, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
member from Saskatoon Nutana.
Erika Ritchie: — Mr. Speaker, pursuant to rule 15(2), I
wish to withdraw item no. 1, Bill No. 623, The Building Code
Regulations (Henry’s Law) Amendment Act from the order paper.
Speaker Goudy: — Pursuant to rule 15(2), item
no. 1 is withdrawn.
Speaker
Goudy:
— I recognize the Deputy Chair of the Standing Committee on House Services.
Colleen Young: — Mr. Speaker, I’m instructed by the
Standing Committee on Crown and Central Agencies . . .
Speaker
Goudy:
— Oh, I’m . . . She’s also in this as well. I’m sorry. I recognize
the other . . . Deputy Chair of the Standing Committee on House
Services.
Nicole Sarauer: — Mr. Speaker, I am instructed by the
Standing Committee on House Services to report that it has considered certain
estimates and to present its fourth report for the thirtieth legislature, which
includes the 2026‑27 estimates and 2025‑26 supplementary estimates
no. 2. I move:
That the fourth report of the Standing Committee on House
Services for the thirtieth legislature be now concurred in.
Speaker Goudy: — It has been moved by the Deputy
Chair of the Standing Committee on House Services:
That the fourth report of the Standing Committee on House
Services for the thirtieth legislature be now concurred in.
Is
the Assembly ready for the question?
Some Hon. Members: — Question.
Speaker Goudy: — Is it the pleasure of the Assembly
to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker Goudy: — Carried. I recognize the Chair of
the Standing Committee on Crown and Central Agencies.
Colleen Young: — Mr. Speaker, I’m instructed by the
Standing Committee on Crown and Central Agencies to report Bill No. 57, The
Information Services Corporation Amendment Act, 2026 with amendment.
Speaker Goudy: — When shall this bill be considered
in Committee of the Whole on Bills? I recognize the Minister of CIC.
Hon. Jeremy Harrison: — I request leave to waive consideration
in Committee of the Whole on this bill and that the bill and its amendments be
now read the third time.
Speaker Goudy: — The minister has requested leave to
waive consideration in the Committee of the Whole on Bill No. 57, The
Information Services Corporation Amendment Act, 2026 and that the bill be
now read the third time. Is leave granted?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker Goudy: — When shall the amendments be read
the first time?
Hon. Jeremy Harrison: — I move that the amendments be now read
a first and a second time.
Speaker Goudy: — It has been moved by the minister
that the amendments be now read a first and second time. Is it the pleasure of
the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker Goudy: — Carried.
Deputy Clerk: — First and
second reading of the amendments.
Speaker
Goudy: — The minister may proceed to move third reading.
Hon. Jeremy Harrison: — I move that the bill be now read the
third time and passed under its title.
Speaker Goudy: — It has been moved by the minister
that the bill now be read the third time and passed under its title. Is the
Assembly ready for the question?
Some Hon. Members: — Question.
Speaker Goudy: — Is it the pleasure of the Assembly
to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Some Hon. Members: — No.
Speaker Goudy: — Call in the members.
[The division bells rang from 14:40
until 14:46.]
Speaker Goudy: — All those in favour of the motion please
stand.
[Yeas
— 32]
Moe
Gartner
Kaeding
Marit
Cockrill
Reiter
Hindley
Harrison, J.
Cheveldayoff
Schmalz
Jenson
Weger
Martens
Wilson
Beaudry
Rowden
Ross
McLeod, T.
Carr
Crassweller
Steele
Young, C.
Harrison, D.
Weedmark
Kropf
McLeod, B.
Patterson
Bromm
Hilbert
Chan
Thorsteinson
Kasun
Speaker Goudy: — Would all those opposed to the
motion please stand.
[Nays
— 24]
Beck
Ritchie
Burki
Clarke
Mowat
Wotherspoon
Teed
Young, A.
Gordon
Laliberte
McPhail
Sarauer
Breckner
Blakley
Grewal
ChiefCalf
Jorgenson
Brar
McBean
Warrington
Pratchler
Housser
Senger
Roy
Deputy Clerk: — Mr. Speaker, those in favour of the
motion, 32; those opposed to the motion, 24.
Speaker Goudy: — I declare the motion passed.
Deputy Clerk: — Third reading of this bill.
Speaker
Goudy:
— I recognize the Chair of the Standing Committee on Intergovernmental Affairs
and Justice
Blaine McLeod: — Mr. Speaker, I am instructed by the
Standing Committee on Intergovernmental Affairs and Justice to report Bill
No. 52, The Heritage Property Amendment Act, 2026 without
amendment.
Speaker Goudy: — When shall this bill be committed to
the Committee of the Whole on Bills?
Hon. Alana Ross: — Mr. Speaker, I request leave to waive
consideration in Committee of the Whole on this bill and that the bill now be
read a third time.
Speaker Goudy: — The minister has requested leave to
waive consideration in the Committee of the Whole on Bill 52, The Heritage
Property Amendment Act, 2026 and that the bill be now read the third time.
Is leave granted?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker Goudy: — The minister may proceed to move
third reading.
Hon. Alana Ross: — I move that the bill be now read the
third time and passed under its title.
Speaker Goudy: — It has been moved by the minister
that the bill be now read the third time and passed under its title. Is the
Assembly ready for the question?
Some Hon. Members: — Question.
Speaker Goudy: — Is it the pleasure of the Assembly
to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker Goudy: — Carried.
Deputy Clerk: — Third reading of this bill.
Speaker
Goudy:
— I recognize the Chair of the Standing Committee on Intergovernmental Affairs
and Justice.
Blaine McLeod: — Mr. Speaker, I’m instructed by the
Standing Committee on Intergovernmental Affairs and Justice to report Bill
No. 54, The Correctional Services Amendment Act, 2026 without
amendment.
Speaker Goudy: — When shall this bill be considered
in Committee of the Whole on Bills? I recognize the Minister of Community
Safety.
Hon. Michael Weger: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I request leave
to waive consideration in Committee of the Whole on this bill and that the bill
be now read the third time.
Speaker Goudy: — The minister has requested to waive
consideration in the Committee of the Whole on Bill No. 54, The
Correctional Services Amendment Act, 2026 and that the bill be read the
third time. Is leave granted?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker Goudy: — The minister may proceed to move
third reading.
Hon. Michael Weger: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that the
bill be now read the third time and passed under its title.
Speaker Goudy: — It has been moved by the minister
that the bill be now read the third time and passed under its title. Is the
Assembly ready for the question?
Some Hon. Members: — Question.
Speaker Goudy: — Is it the
pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — Carried.
Deputy
Clerk: — Third reading of this bill.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the Chair of the Standing Committee
on Intergovernmental Affairs and Justice.
Blaine McLeod: — Mr. Speaker, I’m instructed by the Standing
Committee on Intergovernmental Affairs and Justice to report Bill No. 56, The
King’s Bench Amendment Act, 2026, a bilingual bill, with amendment.
Speaker
Goudy: — When shall this bill be considered in Committee
of the Whole on Bills? I recognize the Minister of Justice and Attorney
General.
Hon. Tim McLeod: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I request leave to waive
consideration in Committee of the Whole on this bill and that the bill and its
amendments be now read a third time.
Speaker
Goudy: — The minister has requested leave to waive
consideration in the Committee of the Whole on Bill 56, The King’s Bench
Amendment Act, 2026 and that the bill be now read the third time. Is leave
granted?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — When shall the amendments be read the first
time?
Hon. Tim McLeod: — Mr. Speaker, I move that the amendments be now read
a first and second time.
Speaker
Goudy: — It has been moved by the minister that the
amendments be now read a first and second time. Is it the pleasure of the
Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — Carried.
Deputy
Clerk: — First and second reading of the amendments.
Speaker
Goudy: — The minister may proceed to move third reading.
Hon. Tim McLeod: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that the bill be now
read a third time and passed under its title.
Speaker
Goudy: — It has been moved by the minister that the bill
be now read the third time and passed under its title. Is the Assembly ready
for the question?
Some
Hon. Members: — Question.
Speaker
Goudy: — Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the
motion?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — Carried.
Deputy
Clerk: — Third reading of this bill.
Deputy Clerk: — Committee of Finance.
Speaker Goudy: — I do now leave the Chair for the
Committee of Finance.
[15:00]
Subvote
(EX01)
Chair B. McLeod: — The business before the committee are
the estimates for Executive Council. The first item of business is the main
estimates for Executive Council, vote 10, found on page 51 of the Government of
Saskatchewan Estimates book.
Before
we begin I would like to advise the Committee of Finance of the process. First
I will invite the Premier to introduce his officials, followed by calling the
estimate, and the Premier can make his opening remarks. Would the Premier
please now introduce his officials.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. I would
just take a moment to introduce the officials that have joined us here today.
Starting
two chairs over from my own is Raynelle Wilson. She’s a deputy minister to
myself, Mr. Speaker, and serves so very competently. And I’m very thankful for
her service in leading our public service across the province of Saskatchewan.
To Raynelle’s right, to my immediate left, is my chief of staff, Jared Dunlop.
To
my right is Reg Downs. He’s the senior advisor to myself, Mr. Speaker, and a
long time been involved with the Government of Saskatchewan, the Saskatchewan
Party Government of Saskatchewan. I suppose he was involved with the former
government as well, but it was in a different capacity, Mr. Speaker. And I say
that tongue-in-cheek, Mr. Speaker.
Sitting
behind me to my left is Sean Wilson. He’s the director of our House business
and research within the Government of Saskatchewan.
And
I’d like to just thank all of these officials publicly for their service to the
people of this province.
Chair
B. McLeod:
— Thank you, Mr. Premier. Executive Council, vote 10, subvote (EX01), central
management and services. The Premier may proceed with his opening remarks.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Thank you very much again, Mr. Chair.
And I’d like to thank all the members for attending not only today but
throughout this session, doing the work on behalf of the folks that we
represent.
This
budget that we will deliberate today — in amongst many other things, I’m sure —
it’s called Protecting Saskatchewan, and that’s exactly what this budget
does. It’s protecting the things that matter most to the people that live in
this province, the families that live in this province: affordability, health
care, education, and the strength of our communities.
But
it does more than just protect. At a time of so much global uncertainty, when
many places are focused simply on holding their ground or protecting what they
have today, Saskatchewan — in addition to protecting what we have today — is
building momentum. We’re seeing confidence in this province unlike we have seen
any time in our provincial history. More than 60 private sector projects, add
to that another project this morning with the BASF innovation research
announcement, Mr. Speaker. Over 60 private sector projects representing over
$62 billion of private sector investment in this province.
In
fact, two of the three largest private capital investments in our nation are
happening right here in our very province of Saskatchewan. Saskatchewan also
remains the most affordable place to live in Canada. And this budget
strengthens that advantage for Saskatchewan families with additional income tax
reductions so families can keep more of what they earn, Mr. Speaker, at the
front end of the process.
At
the same time we’re making progress in health care, in education, in public
safety, community safety, and investments that are improving the services that
people and families rely on to make a real difference in their everyday life.
This
combination of affordability, growth, and investment, it isn’t happening
anywhere else across the nation. And this budget provides the very backbone to
support this momentum and keep our province moving forward.
Three
clear themes emerge from this session: affordability, health care, and
accountability. And each one is focused on protecting the people that live in
this province, the people that we represent as their government.
First
on affordability, a few comments. Members opposite, well they continue to call
for a number of temporary measures to address the cost-of-living concerns that
we are seeing across the nation and, yes, families are seeing in our province.
And
our government has taken a different approach to that conversation — one
focused on lasting relief. Paying less taxes, for instance. We’re delivering
permanent tax reductions that grow each year right through to 2028. We
campaigned on that commitment. That was the commitment that we made to people
just over a year ago.
And
we’ve either implemented or are in the process of implementing each and every
affordability measure that we had in that platform that people voted for in
this province. So together those affordability measures now total two and a
half billion dollars in each and every budget, annualized each and every year.
We
did not use, unlike other provinces, global uncertainty as an excuse to back
away from the commitments that we had made to the very people, the families
across Saskatchewan. We used it as a reason to follow through with those
commitments that we had made, those commitments that they had voted for. And to
keep Saskatchewan the most affordable, and might I add, the best place in
Canada to live.
Today
Saskatchewan residents benefit from the second-lowest utility bundle in the
nation of Canada. A family of four earning $100,000 pays nearly $4,500 less in
provincial income tax than they did in 2007. That same family pays no
provincial income tax in the first $65,000 of combined income. That’s the
highest tax-free threshold in the nation.
Now
if that couple were recent graduates, they can each benefit from the graduate
retention program which is now increased to $24,000 per person. A program that
again we see the opposition voted against.
If
their kids are involved in sports and activities, they benefit from the active
families benefit, which is increased to $300 per child. Again voted against by
the members opposite.
And
say they purchased their first home. They can take advantage of the first-time
homebuyers tax credit, which our government has recently increased by 50 per
cent to $15,000. Again opposed by the members opposite.
Now
let’s say they’re renovating that very home after they purchased it. They
benefit from the home renovation tax credit, which our government reintroduced
and made permanent, allowing them to claim up to $4,000 against their income
tax — once more, something we saw the members opposite vote against.
Altogether
our tax reductions have saved people in this province more than
$5 billion. And once fully implemented in 2028, 166,000 Saskatchewan
residents will be removed from the provincial tax rolls entirely. That means
166,000 lower income residents in our province will not be paying a single
dollar in provincial income tax, quite an attestation to this province being
the most affordable province to live in. That is what lasting affordability
looks like, and that is what our government means when we talk about helping
people keep more of what they earn.
With
respect to health care — very much on the minds of us on the floor of this
Assembly and, I think, very much in the minds of the families that we represent
across the province — this spring our government introduced the patients-first
health care plan. It sets out 50 clear, measurable action items to ensure that
Saskatchewan residents get the right care in the right time and at the right
place. This budget backs up that plan with record investment in health care.
And we’re making progress, and I would say that we’re starting to see some
results from those action items.
Chronic
nursing vacancies across Saskatchewan are down 61 per cent. In rural and
northern Saskatchewan that reduction is even larger, down 72 per cent. We
filled every one of our medical residency seats this year, all 162 of them,
including five new residency positions in Melville, in Nipawin, and in Yorkton.
In 2025 alone there was more than 100,000 surgeries that were completed, and
we’re on track to meet our goal of performing 450,000 surgeries by 2028.
[15:15]
We’re
also continuing to invest in the infrastructure that is needed to support care
closer to home, wherever you live. The right place, Mr. Speaker, is the goal of
the patients-first initiative. The new Weyburn hospital, for example, will be
completed later this year. Construction of the new Prince Albert Victoria
Hospital is also well under way and will serve the residents not only of that
city but in the surrounding area and throughout the entirety of northern
Saskatchewan. Planning and pre-design work is under way for new hospitals in
Yorkton as well as in Rosthern. Here in Regina the single largest investment
that this province has ever undertaken in long-term care is well into
construction, Mr. Speaker.
And, Mr. Speaker, we can see evidence
that the urgent care centre here in Regina is not only alleviating some of the
pressures — not removing, but alleviating some of the pressures — in our
emergency rooms here in Regina but is allowing for quicker access to health
care professionals for Regina and surrounding area families.
On the issue of expanding urgent care
centres, critics have pointed to the hours of operation, focusing on the fact
that they’re not open 24 hours a day. We’re focused on the outcomes of those
centres, very much focused on the outcomes in all of the patients-first
initiatives, all 50 of them that are there.
Urgent care centres do reduce the
pressures that we see on our emergency rooms and expand access to care for
Saskatchewan families. And we’re going to continue building and staffing them
rather than walking away from what is a very real solution for Saskatchewan
families to access care and to improve outcomes of that care.
Staffing challenges are real across our
nation, not just in Saskatchewan, but we are experiencing staffing challenges
here as well. But we need to continue working towards solutions, Mr. Speaker,
to staff not only the facilities we have but new facilities that are being
built, rather than explaining why those facilities may have temporary
disruptions. We definitely won’t apologize for choosing progress over
paralysis.
We’re also increasing access for
patients with more complex needs in our communities, including a new facility
under development as we speak in Prince Albert. We’re strengthening the
workforce for our future, in particular in health care. Nine hundred new health
care training seats. That includes 20 additional seats at the College of
Medicine. Ten new residency positions. Increasing our nurse practitioner
training seats by 45 per cent. These kinds of advancements and investments and
expansions are not happening in other provinces across our nation.
And this was a tough budget. And yes, it
does include a deficit, but it reflects a very clear choice by this government.
We chose not to step back from investing in health care, but we chose to invest
in real outcomes and improving the health care that Saskatchewan families can
access. We’re continuing to invest in people. We’re continuing to invest in
facilities and training and technology and always investing in everything that
we can do to put patients first.
While other provinces we see pulling
back, Saskatchewan is keeping its focus where it matters most by helping people
get that right care at the right place and at the right time. With record
investments in health care and a very clear direction put out in the
patients-first plan that will guide our investments into the future,
Saskatchewan is very well positioned. And we’re going to stay focused on
improving those outcomes in our health care system for Saskatchewan families.
Finally, Mr. Speaker, we come to
accountability. Throughout this session, we’ve seen the members opposite
repeatedly avoid taking responsibility for conduct that falls short of the
standard that Saskatchewan people expect from those that they elect to serve
them on the very floor of this Assembly.
This session, for example, began with an
email sent by the Leader of the Opposition’s chief of staff and their campaign
coordinator to their supporters encouraging them to hate those that they
disagree with. And I want to place those words on the record again. And I
quote, “Just take a moment and think of all the faces of all those you hate so
much: Scott Moe, Tim McLeod, Jeremy Harrison, Jeremy Cockrill.” Those targeted
for hatred are public servants. They are parents and they are members of their
respective communities, and they are members of our provincial community.
There was no termination. Saskatchewan
residents still pay the salary of this individual. There was no apology.
Instead the Leader of the Opposition chose to double down. This stands in
direct contrast to what we have seen leaders of the opposition do in the past,
when their staff or candidates made these kinds of what I would just say are
disgusting comments. Cam Broten took action and he fired his candidates. Lorne
Calvert took action and he fired his campaign staffers. This Leader of the
Opposition did not.
And that lack of accountability has
continued. The member for Regina Rochdale publicly insulted a respected
community leader, a former mayor, by calling him a troll. The member from
Regina South Albert attacked SaskPower officials during committee proceedings.
The member from Saskatoon Silverspring attacked a Saskatchewan marshal,
prompting SGEU [Saskatchewan Government and General Employees’ Union] to write
the members opposite a letter and say, and again I quote, “Do not expect SGEU
to stay silent as you publicly attack our members past, present, or future. We
will not allow attacks on our members from any political party.”
The member from Regina
Elphinstone-Centre has encouraged young people to not pursue careers in health
care on the very floor of this Assembly, at a time when there is a government
that is working very hard and investing in recruiting and retaining health care
professionals in facility after facility across this province. The NDP went on
further to claim that the city of North Battleford was forced to pay for
private security, prompting the city itself to publicly correct this
information that was put out.
And the NDP deceptively also sliced and
edited a video to make it appear that the president of SUMA [Saskatchewan Urban
Municipalities Association] was endorsing their policy or their plan, when she
was in fact speaking about the government’s municipal revenue-sharing program.
Mr. Speaker, in our province and for
each of us, the MLA code of ethics is very clear: “To our colleagues in this
Assembly, we owe loyalty to shared principles, respect for differences, and
fairness in political dealings.” And I would ask Saskatchewan people if they
feel that the Leader of the Opposition and the NDP have lived up to that code
of ethics.
While the opposition has been focused on
division and distraction, our government has stayed focused on our
responsibility. And our responsibility is to the people and families in this
province to protect what matters most to them: protecting their affordability —
most affordable province in the nation — protecting their health care system
and improving outcomes when they utilize that health care system, protecting
our education system, and protecting our communities.
This afternoon we’re going to have the
opportunity to discuss a budget that reflects belief in this province and in
its people, and a budget that protects Saskatchewan and supports the way of
life that we all value.
Mr. Speaker, we talk a lot about a lot
of different things on the floor of this Assembly, so it’s hard to summarize an
entire session in just a few minutes, but I’m going to make an attempt to do
so.
I’m going to read two quotes: “We had a
choice: cut services, raise taxes, or protect Saskatchewan. We chose to protect
Saskatchewan.” That’s from our ’26‑27 budget, Mr. Speaker. “This is a
comprehensive, province-wide strategy to improve access to care and ensure
everyone in Saskatchewan receives the right care in the right time at the right
place.” That’s from our patients-first health care plan, Mr. Speaker.
And if I want to sum up this session in
two sentences from the government’s perspective, that’s what this session was
about — protecting Saskatchewan and putting patients first.
I also found two quotes to sum up the
members opposite’s session as well, Mr. Speaker, and I’d be remiss if I didn’t
read those into the record as well. First quote: “Just take a moment and think
of all of the faces of the ones that you hate so much: Tim McLeod, Jeremy
Harrison, Jeremy Cockrill.” And I missed my name on there, Mr. Speaker. “The
ones you hate so much.” That’s an NDP fundraising email from the NDP leader’s
chief of staff, of who the people of this province are still paying the salary
of.
Second quote, sum up the members
opposite’s session: “In good conscience I can no longer support the direction
of Carla Beck’s leadership.” Mr. Speaker, that’s the member from Saskatoon
Centre yesterday, who just abandoned the sinking ship known as the NDP
opposition.
Those two quotes, I would say, pretty
much sum up the NDP’s session, Mr. Speaker. And they sum up largely the
contrast between the vision that the government members have, the vision the
government has on behalf of the people that we represent, versus the vision of
distraction, Mr. Speaker. It pretty much sums up the difference between the
governing party and the belief that we have in moving this province forward
versus the members opposite.
Chair B. McLeod:
— I recognize the Leader of the Official Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Chair, thank
you. Thank you, Mr. Chair. I’d like to thank the Premier in advance and his
officials who have joined him here today and to all the members of Committee of
the Whole.
Mr. Chair, I am really looking forward
to getting into questions, so I’m going to keep my preamble, my opening
comments, pretty short. I do have a few questions, and I hope we get some
answers today.
But before I do that, I do want to say
thank you to this team — a team that is focused on the future of this province,
a team that is focused for now on our role as the official opposition, a team
focused on holding this government to account, but most importantly a team
that’s focused on the reality and the challenges that Saskatchewan people are
facing.
I think it’s been pretty clear
throughout this session — you might have even heard some of it here — that this
Premier and his government, they don’t share that focus. Hopefully we can draw
the Premier’s attention back to that, the reason that we all serve. I’m hopeful
today that the Premier and I will have a good debate, as I said maybe even get
some answers, and talk about where we’ve been during that Premier’s time in
office as well as the choices in front of Saskatchewan people and where we go
from here.
So, Mr. Chair, drawing that attention
back to the people of this province, where it rightly should be, I want to talk
about one of the main concerns that we hear from people right across this
province, something we hear every day, and that’s around the cost of living.
Since the conflict started in the Middle East, we’ve seen gas prices soar,
causing real hardship for Saskatchewan people. In some places we’ve even seen
that price per litre shoot upwards of $2 a litre.
Now
we’ve seen recently the federal government acting to provide some relief, that
much-needed relief to drivers. But we haven’t seen that from the Premier.
Yesterday, Mr. Chair, it didn’t seem like he really knew what the price of gas
was.
Chair
B. McLeod:
— I recognize the Premier of Saskatchewan.
[15:30]
Hon. Scott Moe: — Thank you, Mr. Chair. We’ve answered
this question on the floor of this Assembly numerous times, and I explained it
in the affordability section of my opening comments as well, as this government
has taken a very deliberate approach to leave more dollars in Saskatchewan
families’ pockets when they earn it, Mr. Speaker.
And
there’s a number of measures that we campaigned on in the most recent election,
Mr. Speaker, that we have now implemented or are in the process of implementing
as well. And that savings, Mr. Speaker, of roughly about $4,400 for a family of
four now, we believe that goes a long way to ensuring that not only today
Saskatchewan is the most affordable place to live, but it will continue to be
the most affordable place to live into the future.
However
the Leader of the Opposition rightfully points out that with geopolitical
challenges that we’re having, in particular oil tankers — fertilizer tankers as
well for our ag producers — are caught in that strait, Mr. Speaker. It’s quite
an economic channel for getting goods to the world out of a number of
countries, Mr. Speaker, in the Middle East.
But
the choice that we have made is to make permanent reductions and incentives
that touch virtually everyone in this province, whether they be a student,
whether they be some of our community’s most vulnerable, whether they be a
senior, Mr. Speaker, living in our communities as well. And we felt it
important to touch everyone, and not just those that might drive or drive more,
but touch everyone with a permanent tax reduction or permanent incentive that
they will see, Mr. Speaker, year in, year out — not just in the year where
we’re seeing some global unrests that are impacting fuel prices.
So
I’ll go through and list a few, Mr. Speaker. But as I said, we lowered the
personal income tax, indexed that tax so that a family of four will see
significant savings over the course of the next four years, going a long way to
ensuring that we remain the most affordable province in the nation.
Second-lowest utility bundle in Canada, Mr. Speaker, is preserved throughout
this year.
We’ve
reduced the education property tax. We have the active families benefit that
increased, Mr. Speaker; we increased the income threshold on that $300 per
child that families will be receiving. We enhanced the children’s drug plan.
The first-time homebuyers tax credit, which I mentioned again in my opening
comments; increased that from 10 to $15,000. We worked closely with the federal
government on the child care program, Mr. Speaker, renewing and enhancing the
child care program to ensure that those children that might have aged out of
the program as they turned six mid-year, that they would be covered throughout
the rest of that particular school year, Mr. Speaker.
There’s
funding in here for those that need care when it comes to diabetes care,
insulin pumps for continuous and flash glucose monitors, Mr. Speaker. Those
programs were expanded as well. There’s funding in here for individualized
autism funding as well, Mr. Speaker, to support not only the child but to
support the family as well as they support their child that may have autism.
There is a list of initiatives, Mr. Speaker, that I could find my way through
here for the next couple of hours.
But
we do see some changing in policy stances by the members opposite. It was after
the 2020 election that we had committed to a 10 per cent reduction in power
rates for a year, Mr. Speaker. And the members opposite had had some comments
with respect to that, specifically the member from Regina South Albert, who had
said — and I quote from her social media page — “Giving a 10 per cent power
rebate to big donors and users doesn’t seem like good public policy to me,” Mr.
Speaker. But now they call for that exact public policy.
We
have taken a different path, Mr. Speaker, to ensure that the tax reductions,
the incentives, the savings, the ensuring that Saskatchewan remains the most
affordable place to live, is here not just this year but into the future as
well.
Mr.
Speaker, one of the ways — and I’m sure we’re going to get to discuss this as
well — that we can ensure that Saskatchewan remains affordable is to watch very
closely the challenges that we have across Canada in not only our existing
power supply, make sure it’s affordable and reliable, but how we are going to
power our province, our homes for families, and the industries that are
creating jobs in our communities, Mr. Speaker. And the focus of our
Saskatchewan power utility is to have affordable, reliable power today and
affordable, reliable power into the future.
Mr.
Speaker, we’ve seen one plan come from the members opposite this spring. And it
was a power plan, Mr. Speaker, that they had come forward and spoken many times
to the fact that that plan was going to include LNG [liquefied natural gas].
And so I just want to put on the record for Saskatchewan people what that would
mean to Saskatchewan people and where the members opposite position was on this
fuel that would cost in excess of 10 times more than the power fuels that we
are using today.
So
first, Mr. Speaker, at the municipal convention, the Saskatchewan urban
municipal association’s convention right here in Regina — I believe it was
April the 13th of 2026 — the leader said, and I quote:
Absolutely. I mean baseload is an important part. Our plan
makes use of LNG, both importing LNG from other provinces but also increasing
that LNG production, transmission here in the province as well. And I think
that’s a key difference. Absolutely we need baseload. I think certainly we know
that. The independent modellers [from Quebec, I presume] that we engage with on
this plan understand that well; these are leading experts. Ours not only
addresses that need for baseload, for predictability, but it also does so in a
way that doesn’t double power rates in the province.
No,
it likely ups them 10 times actually, Mr. Speaker. Again on April the 13th at
that convention, the Leader of the Opposition one more time:
This is a practical plan that meets the needs of people in
this province that does, as we talked about, include the use and expansion for
that baseload power of LNG.
Mr. Speaker, we go on to April the 17th,
I believe. No, let’s go to April the 14th. Pardon me. The Leader of the
Opposition said in SaskToday, April 14th of 2026 . . . [inaudible
interjection] . . . Oh there’s more coming. Mr. Speaker, that one’s
pretty close to the last one.
Mr. Speaker, I’ll go on to April the
17th, where the member from Regina University did an interview in Prince
Albert, Mr. Speaker. And a post from that interview is a photo about their
plan, and she states, “And that will involve LNG.”
We
go on to April the 27th in a SaskToday article, Mr. Speaker, as you find your
way through the article to page 3 of 4: “Our plan makes use of LNG, both
importing LNG from other provinces but also increasing that LNG production here
at home.” Doubled down on the LNG commitment once again, Mr. Speaker.
And
then on . . . Oh, I’ll back up to April. Still on April the 27th in
an interview with Pipeline News, Mr. Speaker. The title of the article is “LNG,
the NDP’s electrical plan and Spaceballs.” Never good when your policy
and the one plan that you have released this session, Mr. Speaker, is being
referenced as Spaceballs. But as always with NDP policy, it could be worse.
Mr.
Speaker, we go to the very last sentence in that article: “As for LNG?” This is
the author of the article, Mr. Speaker. And I quote: “As for LNG? That’s just
nuts. Beck should know better.” That’s from the article. I’d like to take the
opportunity to table all three of these articles, Mr. Speaker.
Mr.
Speaker, but this should be no surprise because policies that governments enact
. . . And as my friend the previous member from Melville-Saltcoats
used to say, Bob Bjornerud, and he said, in opposition you could say anything,
Mr. Speaker, but when you become government, whatever you say, Mr. Speaker,
automatically becomes a policy.
And
so we see that in true form on many topics and policies that are made,
decisions that are made with respect to policies, in particular how they impact
our economy. And we’ve seen this in spades over the last eight years with our
federal government and the policy initiatives that they have moved on, Mr.
Speaker. The costs will come and the costs in many cases have come from those
federal policies.
And
I want to point to one, Mr. Speaker, and it was supported by these members on
the floor of this Assembly many times and their federal counterparts in Ottawa
every time. And that was the policy of the carbon tax. There was one government
and one party, Mr. Speaker, in this province that stood feverishly against that
silly tax that had no environmental impacts, only had detrimental economic
impacts, time and time again.
And
herein lies the difference of what we see today, Mr. Speaker, with respect to
the opposition. It’s just like when you hear them speak today that they never
voted for the carbon tax, time and time and time again. And now they want to go
to Saskatchewan people and say, “Oh no, no, no, no. We never supported that
policy. We never supported that policy.” They stood on their feet and voted for
it time and time and time again.
Mr.
Speaker, the same is happening with their commitment to the LNG, their LNG
power plan — the only plan that they’ve released this year. A fuel that would
be 10 times the cost of what we currently use today, Mr. Speaker. As they say
it’s LNG, they double down in each and every scrum, each and every media
opportunity. On the floor of this Assembly they doubled down. It’s LNG, it’s
LNG, it’s LNG. We’re going to truck it in from British Columbia or the United
States of America, Mr. Speaker.
And
then when they realized that the true costs are going to be borne by
Saskatchewan families, they said, oh no, no, no, no, we didn’t mean LNG after
all. It’s just like the carbon tax. No, no, no, no, we didn’t support the
carbon tax.
Mr.
Speaker, what I would say to the people of this province is, when someone tells
you who they are and what their policy is, believe them the first time.
[15:45]
Chair B. McLeod: — Before I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition, I’m going to make a comment. I’m going to make a comment myself
before I recognize the leader. Decorum in this place is important, and I’m
going to insist on it on both sides of the House. With that said, I recognize
the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Chair, I’ve only stood in this
Assembly for 10 years and I’ve not seen a change of government, but I have
heard from many that when a government gets a little too comfortable, when they
start drinking a little too much of their own bathwater, when they’re past
their best-before date, there will be signs, Mr. Chair. I will leave that with
the Premier.
Now
I will state clearly again and emphatically, we do not support the carbon tax.
I said it from the floor when I was running for leader. I’ve said it time and
time again, Mr. Speaker.
With
regard to the LNG comment, I made a mistake, Mr. Speaker, when I added an L to
natural gas. This is, you know, shocking apparently to members opposite. It’s
embarrassing — I will acknowledge that — but it was a slip of the tongue. Now
the plan that is hiding on the internet, gridandgrowth.com, very clearly, very
clearly does not include a plan for LNG. Natural gas, yes. So let me just
correct the record.
Let
me draw it back to the people of this province and that government’s
“deliberate approach” when it comes to affordability in this province. Their
deliberate approach has Saskatchewan people using the food bank in record
numbers. Their deliberate approach has Saskatchewan people with the highest
rate of mortgages in arrears in the entire country. And their approach, Mr.
Chair, has health care workers sleeping in their cars after they care for our
loved ones.
So
he had a problem with being called, as many Saskatchewan people are calling for
cutting the gas tax, but we’ve put forth other ideas too. I’ve got a list of
them here. I’m going to ask them all at once so maybe, you know, we can save
some time. Cut the $25 million Sask Party tax on groceries, the
$20 million Sask Party tax on kids’ clothing. Stop, stop their plans to
impose rate hikes on car insurance. Pass our rent control Act and stop the
madness with 43 months of continuous rent hikes for the people of this
province. Pass legislation put forth by the member from Saskatoon Southeast to
crack down on AI [artificial intelligence] price gouging, and support my
private member’s bill to increase competition and decrease grocery prices.
There’s
a list. Will the Premier take us up on any one of them? Because the people of
this province deserve a break, and they need a break.
Chair
B. McLeod:
— I recognize the Premier of Saskatchewan.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Speaker, I would extend the very
same offer to the members opposite: to vote to support the appropriation. I
wish they would have voted to support the budget with a number of the
aforementioned . . . And I’ll go through a list again of the
affordability measures that total two and a half billion dollars in this very
budget, Mr. Speaker.
This
is what we’ve been focused on. This is the policy of the government, and this
is what I suspect government members will be voting on, and voting very
positively and emphatically on, later this week. So to answer the member’s
question, in short, is this is the focus of the government. This is what we
will be supporting.
It’s
more than fine for the members opposite to bring forward their temporary
suggestions, Mr. Speaker, but the government is very deliberate in ensuring
that Saskatchewan remains the most affordable province in the nation of Canada.
And I’ll get to that in a moment, Mr. Speaker. But again . . . Mr.
Speaker, maybe I’ll get to that right now.
When
you go to the budget documents, starting on page 61, there’s some intercity
comparisons of taxes, utilities, housing, and family at different income
levels, Mr. Speaker. So we could start at a family income level of $75,000.
When you take into account provincial income tax; any credits and rebates;
health premiums; sales tax; gasoline tax; your household costs, like your home
heating, electricity, cellular, auto insurance, Mr. Speaker; your housing
costs, mortgage costs, property taxes — all of this taken into the
affordability matrix, Mr. Speaker — the most affordable city across the nation
is Regina, Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker.
The
total costs for a family with an income of 75,000 is 29,388. When you compare
that to, for instance, an NDP government in British Columbia who ranked 10th,
that number is 77,324. It’s actually more than they make. I’m not sure how they
manage that in that particular NDP province, Mr. Speaker. Going across the
province, Winnipeg ranks quite well, Mr. Speaker — 32,000 — but third, much
higher than in Regina.
Let’s
go to a different income level on the next page. Mr. Speaker, this would be the
budget documents, page number 62. Increasing that intercity comparison at the
family of $100,000 total income level, the first-ranking city in the nation of
Canada again is Regina, Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker. Most affordable place to
live in the nation if you are a family and you have an income of $100,000. Mr.
Speaker, again Winnipeg is third, again Vancouver is 10th, and we go through
the rest of the cities across the nation.
But
let’s increase that to $125,000, Mr. Speaker, of family income. Mr. Speaker,
the first-ranked city, the most affordable city in the nation of Canada to
live: Regina, Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker. At all of those income levels for a
family, Saskatchewan remains the most affordable place to live. And I point to
pages 61 and 62 of the budget documents, Mr. Speaker.
I
do want to just respond to one comment, Mr. Speaker, somewhat trailing from the
last question on the position of the opposition when it comes to the federally
imposed carbon tax in this province. There was a motion that was moved on the
floor of this Assembly on October the 25th of 2016. And I’ll quote the motion
on page 868, October 25th, 2016:
That the Assembly supports the Government of Saskatchewan’s
position on climate change as outlined in the climate change white paper
released on October 18th, 2016; and further
That this Assembly oppose the federal government’s plan to
impose a national carbon tax.
Mr.
Speaker, the yeas and nays, and the yeas had it in that particular vote. There
was 48 individuals that voted to support this Assembly, oppose that carbon tax,
Mr. Speaker. There were eight nays, and I want to read into the record the
names of the eight nays, Mr. Speaker. And everyone can check this out, and I’ll
table it after so it’s available: Wotherspoon, Sproule, Beck — let me do that
again — Wotherspoon, Sproule, Beck, Chartier, Forbes, McCall, Belanger,
Rancourt, Mr. Speaker. Those were the individuals that voted for the federal
government’s carbon tax, Mr. Speaker, on the very floor of this Assembly.
So
I say once again to Saskatchewan people . . .
Chair B. McLeod: — I just need you to make sure that
you refer to the MLAs — MLA — make sure that not just their last name, but MLAs
. . . Read that back into the record again, please.
Hon. Scott Moe: — My apology. The MLAs that voted against
the motion to oppose the federal government’s carbon tax. Thank you for that
clarification. I’ll read them into the record again.
Chair B. McLeod: — Why is the member on her feet?
Nicole Sarauer: — I’m asking that the Premier keep his
answers relevant, at least somewhat relevant to the question, please. He’s been
filibustering the last two questions 45 minutes each, barely even touching the
questions that the Leader of the Opposition had been presenting to the Premier,
Mr. Deputy Chair.
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Government House
Leader.
Hon. Tim McLeod: — In response to the Opposition House
Leader’s point of order, Mr. Chair, I would point out that the Leader of the
Opposition opened her question with exactly this content. The Premier is
addressing the question as it was framed. He is exactly on point in terms of
the content of the question.
I
understand the members of the opposition don’t like the answer, but he is
certainly on topic, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
Chair B. McLeod: — My suggestion here is that we are
having wide-ranging questions that allows for wide-ranging answers. And so I’ll
ask the Premier to continue, please.
Hon. Scott Moe: — I will be very brief in the conclusion
of my answer, Mr. Speaker. But I would like to just read the end of the motion
again: “That this Assembly oppose the federal government’s plan to impose a
national carbon tax.” Everyone on this side of the Assembly voted to support
that motion, Mr. Speaker. And the MLAs that voted in favour of the federal
carbon tax were again: Wotherspoon, Sproule, Beck, Chartier, Forbes, McCall,
Belanger, Rancourt.
Mr.
Speaker, again I would say to Saskatchewan people, when people tell you what
their policy is, Mr. Speaker, believe them the first time. And I would table
this.
[Interjections]
Chair B. McLeod: — I’ll call the member to order.
Member from Saskatoon Meewasin, you will come to order and stay in order.
Nathaniel Teed: — Yes, yes, I will.
Chair B. McLeod: — Thank you. This document is tabled.
I recognize His Majesty’s Loyal Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Well, Mr. Chair, there will be signs.
I’m going to again try to draw that Premier’s attention back to today, to the
people of this province. Now he doesn’t seem to want to respond or understand
or believe that people in this province are struggling the way that they are,
the way that we know that they are.
So
I’m going to offer him a suggestion. He often doesn’t like my suggestions, but
I’m going to offer it anyway. You know . . . [inaudible interjection]
. . . Would you care to amplify that comment, Minister?
I
suggest that he or maybe his Finance minister go and take their affordability
matrix, go shop it around at the gas pump down on Albert Street. Or maybe in La
Ronge. Maybe he wants to take it to folks who are, you know, at the grocery
store putting items back, who are having to cut their medication in half so
that they can afford to put some food on the table. Or maybe the folks coming
out of the food banks, Mr. Speaker. Because maybe, just maybe then he’ll get
what people in this province are facing and why we are trying to get that
government to do something to address the crisis that’s in front of us.
[16:00]
And
I’m going to go on to one more way that this government is making life more
expensive for Saskatchewan people at a time when they simply cannot afford it.
That’s their $136 million SaskPower hike, Mr. Chair, something that
families and farms and small businesses in this province are paying that they
can’t afford. They’ve got another hike coming next year.
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Premier of
Saskatchewan.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Speaker, there is an increase to
power rates that we have announced in this province to ensure that we can
continue to deliver reliable power in an affordable way in this province. It’s
part of our overall utility bundle, which is less . . . and I can
read the numbers but we are less than many other provinces. But when you go
across the nation as well, what we are seeing are increases to power rates in
most, if not virtually all provinces, Mr. Speaker. And our increase is coming
off a zero per cent increase last year, Mr. Speaker.
In
Manitoba, when you look out over this year and the next three years, ’25 to
’29, they’re looking at 11 per cent increase in Manitoba. Mr. Speaker, New
Brunswick’s looking at seventeen and three-quarter per cent, Mr. Speaker.
That’s coming off a twelve and a quarter per cent in 2024, so significant
increases in New Brunswick. Newfoundland is coming off, in 2024, seven; 2025,
seven, Mr. Speaker; and an anticipated seven over the next number of years. BC
[British Columbia] is coming, 2024, with six and a half per cent; 3.75 and 3.75
in ’25 and ’26.
So
there are increases in power rates across the nation I would say to a couple
reasons. One is inflationary costs are also being felt by our power utility
companies, Mr. Speaker. And also power utility companies are preparing to not
only continue to provide reliable power that we need today, but preparing for
more power that will be necessary in the future, and in Saskatchewan, that more
power will be necessary for a growing economy. As I said, we have over 60
projects with over $62 billion of private sector capital that is being
invested.
What
I would like to know, and I didn’t see it in the Grid and Growth Plan, Mr.
Speaker. But what I would like to know is what the impact would be of replacing
our fuel source with LNG, a cost 10 times more than what we’re currently using,
Mr. Speaker. And if that was not the language that was in the Grid and Growth
recommendations that came from their consultant . . . I think their
consultant came from Quebec, but I’m not sure.
But
I would maybe ask the members opposite to table that report that came from that
consultant, Mr. Speaker, if for no other reason, so that we can ensure and
advise Crown utilities to not use a consultant that is going to recommend we
use a fuel source that is 10 times the cost of what we currently have
available, Mr. Speaker. I don’t think that would be prudent policy making or it
would be prudent for Crown utilities or any ministry across this government
actually to use a consultant that is going to make that type of a
recommendation like they did to the NDP Party.
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize His Majesty’s Leader of
the Loyal Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Chair, I think I’ve been clear on
the record. As I said, that plan is available at gridandgrowth.ca. Perhaps the
Premier has never made any mistakes in his life. When I make a mistake I
apologize, I correct the record, and I move on to what is important. Right now
that is what we’re talking about here.
I
find it a bit extraordinary, Mr. Chair, that the Premier had no knowledge of
those inflationary costs and somehow he became aware some time between December
the 4th and January the 2nd. But I’ll leave that there.
It’s
not just us that are calling out this SaskPower rate hike and the way that it
was sprung on the people of this province, the farms, the families, the
businesses. SARM [Saskatchewan Association of Rural Municipalities] and the
CFIB [Canadian Federation of Independent Businesses] have spoken out, and so
has SIECA [Saskatchewan Industrial Energy Consumers Association] — SIECA, a
group representing the largest power users in the province, those sectors like
mining, agriculture, manufacturing, and health care, Mr. Chair.
And
I’m going to quote a couple of quotes from the letter that they sent the rate
review panel. First, and I quote:
The lack of transparency or adherence to established
processes not only weakens confidence in the Crown rate setting, but it also
creates broader uncertainty regarding the investment climate in Saskatchewan.
I
end the quote. Here’s the second quote:
Further, any discussions on exploring the viability of
adding carbon capture units to offset emissions is another factor that must be
closely examined with respect to affordability as compared to a new natural gas
plant or further renewable investment.
While SIECA can appreciate the importance of energy
security and SaskPower’s all-of-the-above approach to its asset generation mix,
affordability remains a vital concern. And natural gas generation is
affordable, reliable, and extremely flexible in its ability to complement
renewable energy.
However an all-of-the-above approach should also include
all-of-the-above solutions moving forward rather than heavily investing mostly
in coal in the short term.
To
summarize, this Premier’s costly plan not only makes life more expensive for
Saskatchewan people and businesses and farms, it puts jobs and investment at
risk. Will he please scrap his rate hike, scrap the coal rebuild, and focus on
reliable, affordable natural gas?
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Premier of
Saskatchewan.
Hon. Scott Moe: — I’ll make some comments with respect to
power costs, Mr. Speaker, and I put on the record a number of those costs in
the previous answers.
I
also want to address the fact that humans make mistakes as well, Mr. Speaker.
We all do, and it’s important for us to acknowledge when that happens, Mr.
Speaker. And so I would ask the Leader of the Opposition if it was a mistake to
authorize or to support in any way those emails that went out inciting hatred
to individuals. To me that would be a good place to acknowledge that a mistake
was made and take the appropriate action, like previous leaders.
Mr.
Speaker, in this province we have a number of projects that are moving forward.
And I’d referenced the over 60 projects with over $62 billion of
investments, many of them in the ag space. I look at Cargill that will be
coming online in very short order, Mr. Speaker. In fact there’s already a
ramping up just outside the city of Regina here, very much in the agricultural
space, Mr. Speaker.
As
we find our way to a nuclear future in this province, Mr. Speaker, and look to
provide that affordable, reliable power into the future, we need to ensure that
we have that affordable, reliable power today. And the most affordable,
reliable power source that we can find is to utilize the existing assets that
we have, Mr. Speaker. To replace the existing assets that we have and to build,
that would be a $21 billion cost, Mr. Speaker.
We
can replace and utilize our existing assets as we find our way to that nuclear
future, whether it’s small modular reactors or maybe even large-scale reactors,
Mr. Speaker, whichever makes economic sense and operational sense for our Crown
utility, Mr. Speaker. But we can do that by utilizing the existing assets we
have. And by utilizing those assets we can also attract the investment that we
see landing in this province here today, because we have the power available
for those investments to move forward.
Most
notable I think, and most recent . . . Well BASF this morning, with a
$27 million investment in Saskatoon, would be the most recent. But another
most recent or more recent or somewhat recent investment announcement was the
data centre right here in Regina, Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker, which is a
$12 billion investment, the third-largest investment in the nation right
now and most certainly will use some power that we have available, but will
provide 1,600 jobs for not just Regina and surrounding area but across the
province, Mr. Speaker. That’s what utilizing our existing power resources can
provide for us, is careers, opportunity, and buy us the time that we need to
build out our nuclear future.
And
I want to mention a number of other investments, Mr. Speaker, starting with
$39 billion in projects in the mining sector. Another, the
12.1 billion in the data centre space. And then forestry, oil and gas are
20 projects in that space, about $7.4 billion, and about $4 billion
in the agricultural space. That’s allowing us largely to make the agriculture
industry more efficient, but also allow us to climb the value chain, to start
exporting ingredients like canola oil, for example, as opposed to canola seed.
Among
these investments is the Jansen potash mine, second-largest private sector
investment in the nation of Canada today. So first is the LNG Canada plant.
Second is the BHP mine here in Saskatchewan. Third is the data centre here in
Regina, Saskatchewan. Two of the largest three investments in our nation are
happening in our province right now. That is unlike any time in our province’s
history.
We
have the mine expansion at K+S just north of the city. The McIlvenna Bay metals
mine, what was the Foran Mining project, Mr. Speaker, now is Eldorado. The
Wheeler River uranium mine, that’s by Denison mines, Mr. Speaker. The Rook I
uranium mine, that’s by NexGen Energy. We have Paladin working on a third mine.
Again two operating uranium mines in our province today. Two more approved and
likely a third on the way, all going to start construction.
We
have a pea-processing facility at Yorkton. The data centre I mentioned. Drake
Meats has invested in their meat processing facility. SAGD [steam-assisted
gravity drainage], a project by Strathcona at Plover Lake and Meota, two of
them. Prairie Lithium project. Mr. Speaker, we have investments being made in
the helium industry, and I think some opportunity is coming in that space as
well.
[16:15]
You
add to this all of the ongoing investments by globally leading companies, Mr.
Speaker, whether it be in the oil industry, companies like Whitecap, the only
net zero oil company operating on earth. Strathcona, Cardinal, Cenovus, all
operating in our province, all with a very strong environmental sustainability
matrix, Mr. Speaker, and creating jobs for many Saskatchewan residents.
We
have, in addition to BHP and K+S, Mosaic. We have Nutrien, Mr. Speaker, in the
potash mining space. I forgot Urano and Cameco in not only the uranium mining
space, but now moving into the actual nuclear reactor space as well, Mr.
Speaker. So we now today have a Saskatoon company that owns one of the
global-leading nuclear companies, Mr. Speaker. And that’s certainly technology
that we would want to look at as we move forward.
I
would also say, just in this time of uncertainty — not just in our nation or
our continent, for that matter, but around the world — what we are seeing
happen in Saskatchewan with these 60 projects, $62 billion in multiple
different industries, Mr. Speaker, is unlike anything that we see happening in
any other province across the nation right now.
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Chair, I’ve got a shorter question
for the Premier. How much is it going to cost to refurbish the coal plants?
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Premier of
Saskatchewan.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Speaker, the most recent report and
estimate that we have — in an inflationary environment, yes — is a report by
Hatch. I’ll name the company. It’s $2.6 billion to refurbish the coal
plants that we’re looking at here today, Mr. Speaker. That’s the latest
estimate that SaskPower Corporation has.
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Chair, I’m going to take a little
walk down memory lane. The minister first said that the cost to rebuild,
refurbish those coal plants would be under a billion dollars. SaskPower put the
cost at $2.6 billion in its submission to the rate review panel. That was
a tripling of the price in just a few months.
But,
Mr. Chair, the story doesn’t end there. We have obtained leaked internal
documents from SaskPower showing that the costs are now projected at over
$26 billion. Mr. Chair, that is more than 30 times the initial cost that
that minister put forward. That is 10 times what that Premier just said.
Can
the Premier please explain to the people of this province — the ones who are
going to be paying those costs not just today but far into the future — how
those costs went from $900 million to 26 billion? And I suggest he
listen to this question. Was he aware of those numbers that that minister was
green-lighting or was he kept out of the loop? And I suggest that he answer
carefully because this is going to matter.
While
he is doing that, Mr. Chair, I am going to table the documents that I’m
speaking of.
Chair B. McLeod: — I’ll just ask the Premier, do you
want a copy of these documents?
Hon. Scott Moe: — Yes, Mr. Chair, I just have to see the document.
Chair B. McLeod: — Okay, so we’ll get them prepared for
you.
I
recognize the Premier of Saskatchewan. Apologies for being a little short
there.
Hon. Scott Moe: — And for future notice, I will wait to
be recognized, Mr. Speaker, and I appreciate being recognized on the floor of
this Assembly.
Mr.
Speaker, these documents, I have not seen them, nor has the minister. They are
dated November 2024, Mr. Speaker, so prior to the last election. And they talk
about . . . I don’t see the 26- or -7-billion-dollar number in here.
I see a 25‑year life extension, fuel costs, transmission costs, Mr.
Speaker, 11.4 for the life extension, the fuel cost of 13 billion. I don’t
know the period of time that’s over.
Transmission
lines, however, are something that we may have to build as we generate more
power to support more people and a more significant economy, Mr. Speaker, with
the investments of 62 — or 60 investments, over 60 now, Mr. Speaker —
representing over $62 billion. They will all need power. That’s our goal,
is to provide reliable, affordable power.
So
I don’t know what the context of this slide show is. It looks like somebody
took photos of a slide show that are labelled confidential, Mr. Speaker,
confidential and something else here. Can’t read them. Confidential and
privileged is at the bottom, Mr. Speaker, this document from November 2024.
All
I can speak to is, information that we’ve been provided is the most recent
Hatch report on our coal refurbishment, $2.6 billion, Mr. Speaker. And I
would put that report and utilizing our existing assets, Mr. Speaker, alongside
the plan that we saw put forward by the members opposite. We’re not going to
switch to products like LNG and be reliant on the US [United States] or British
Columbia or anywhere else in the world.
We’re
going to utilize our existing assets. We’re going to continue to find our way
to a nuclear future, Mr. Speaker. And we will find the most affordable,
reliable power source that we can to ensure that we can continue to attract
those investments in our industries that are creating jobs for Saskatchewan
people not just today but into the future.
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Chair, I suggest that the Premier find
his way to a very serious conversation with that minister. And he better be
sure that he’s not having another did-you-bring-your-guns-to-work moment.
Mr.
Chair, this is incredibly serious. The entire provincial budget is
$22 billion. The Premier can take some time. He can add up all of those
numbers in that SaskPower board document in front of him and he will see that
they add up to $26 billion.
There’s
also part 1 of those slides talks about cabinet decision items. The minister
said this was a plan to save $21 billion but, Mr. Chair, these documents
show that that is simply not the case.
I
will give the Premier a minute. Is this really his plan? And if so, how many
more times does he anticipate raising SaskPower rates on the people of this
province, the farms and the businesses in this province, to make up that
$26 billion decision made by that minister?
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Premier of
Saskatchewan.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Now the first error I see with this
plan, Mr. Speaker, is on the fuel costs. I don’t know how many years that would
be over maybe the 25 years, but I would suspect that it includes the carbon tax
that we talked about earlier, that the members opposite supported, Mr. Speaker.
We since have taken steps to remove the carbon tax from all of our industrial
users, in particular our power supply, Mr. Speaker. People in this province no
longer pay the carbon tax on their electricity in this province, the only
province in the nation of Canada, Mr. Speaker, so we could reduce that.
Mr.
Speaker, the latest report, as I say, is from Hatch. It’s $2.6 billion for
the refurb. The transmission lines, however, as we grow our power grid and
service families and industries, Mr. Speaker, I don’t know if that is the
correct number, but I am not going to say that we aren’t going to have to
invest in expanded transmission lines in this province.
In
fact I know that we are investing in a northern line to service some of the
uranium investments that are happening there in some of the communities
throughout the northern part of our province, Mr. Speaker. I know we are also
investing in an intertie to the Southwest Power Pool, a 650‑megawatt
intertie, Mr. Speaker, to have power come in and also for us to export power,
to ensure that we are tied in, Mr. Speaker, to ensure that we have the
affordability of our grid as well.
[16:30]
So
I’m going to take this document. I’m going to provide it to SaskPower. It’s a
dated document. And they can provide a response to the minister, to the
government. But I suspect much has happened since November 2024 with respect to
this plan, wherever it came from, Mr. Speaker, which does include the carbon
tax that the members opposite support, Mr. Speaker, versus the plan that I had
spoken to which is a . . . the latest estimate is a $2.6 billion
cost of refurb.
To
put that in perspective — and I said this at the beginning of my first answer,
Mr. Speaker — this is foregoing a $21 billion capital cost, Mr. Speaker,
which would include natural gas, LNG, whatever the members opposite were
committed to. What we’re trying to do is navigate the most affordable and
reliable path forward for our industries and families.
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Again, Mr. Chair, this is a SaskPower
board document. And if the Premier is not going to listen, I suggest the rest
of the members opposite listen because this day will be remembered. And I’m not
sure that that Premier understands what that minister has done.
This
minister is presiding over what is bound to become the largest cost overrun in
the history of this province. I don’t often look in the rear-view mirror, Mr.
Chair. But looking back to the Grant Devine years, when this province was
nearly bankrupt, well this is going to make that government, that premier look
like a spendthrift. There are certain mudholes people should say “whoa” in, Mr.
Chair. This is one of them. Under $1 billion to $26 billion in a few
months. And I’m looking at faces over there, Mr. Chair, and I’m not sure the
people who ought to have known know what this plan is going to cost.
Now
this is the same minister that the Premier had to fire as House Leader after he
forgot that he brought his gun to work. It is one of those moments for this
Premier right now. It’s time for that Premier to scrap this $26 billion
plan. Will the Premier do that today?
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Premier of
Saskatchewan.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I
spoke earlier to the most recent update that I’ve had on the coal refurbish
plan, or the plan to utilize our existing assets — $2.6 billion by Hatch,
Mr. Speaker.
This
is not a plan, certainly not a plan that has been presented to the government.
By its very date it looks like it’s from November 2024, prior to the carbon tax
being lifted, Mr. Speaker. In fact this looks much closer to the Grid and
Growth Plan that the members opposite had put forward, Mr. Speaker.
Maybe,
maybe, and this is why I want to find out the name of that particular
consultant, whether they be from Quebec or wherever, is that we don’t use
consultants that are going to put forward plans like they had put forward, Mr.
Speaker. Maybe that particular consultant was involved in this plan. I don’t
know. I haven’t seen it. It’s pictures off a screen. It’s over a year or maybe
two years old, Mr. Speaker.
I’ve
spoken to what the most recent update of the plan that I have, Mr. Speaker, is
a $2.6 billion capital cost to refurbish our existing assets and to move
forward towards a nuclear future, ensuring reliable, affordable power for the
people of this province and ensuring we continue to be an attractive place to
invest for industries.
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Again, Mr. Chair, these are SaskPower
documents, post decision to refurbish coal. I suggest the Premier understand
the gravity of what is going on here. Now in those documents there is reference
made to three reports. The Premier’s in a tabling mood here. I would like the
Premier to table all three of those reports referenced, Mr. Chair. Can he do
that? And can he tell the people of this province why he has chosen a plan and
a minister who is going to add $26 billion to the cost of their power
bills in this province?
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Premier of
Saskatchewan.
Hon. Scott Moe: — I just want it to be very clear in the
record, Mr. Speaker. This is not the government’s plan, never has been the
government’s plan. The plan, as I said, the most recent plan, the numbers are
tabled. $2.6 billion is the most recent Hatch report that we have, Mr.
Speaker. That has been provided to the rate review panel, Mr. Speaker, and I
don’t know what the third tabling ask was.
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Chair, the three documents that I
referenced were the three reports that are noted in the document that we
tabled. Hopefully that clarifies things for the Premier. The answers that the
Premier is giving are raising more questions. He suggests this is a report from
2024. If the decision to refurbish the coal plants was not made until 2025, can
he explain why this document went before the SaskPower board?
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Premier of
Saskatchewan.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Chair, I would just say I’m going
to provide this slide show to SaskPower if they have some . . . And
maybe they can explain, Mr. Speaker, the timing of the report, the three
reports that are in there. As I said, the information that the government has
most certainly is that the most recent Hatch report that was provided to the
. . . or the numbers were provided to the rate review panel were
$2.6 billion to refurbish our coal.
Now,
Mr. Speaker, as we find our way through time, what we have seen when we are
building schools — 109 schools being built, Mr. Speaker — when we’re building
hospitals, whether that be the Prince Albert hospital, the Weyburn hospital,
Mr. Chair, or as we start on the largest long-term care investment in the
history of the province right here in Regina, what we are seeing is an
escalation of those costs, Mr. Chair.
We’ve
seen that in the natural gas plants that we’ve built. I think in fairness,
Manitoba is seeing that in the natural gas plant that they’re building as we
speak as well, Mr. Chair. And so there is an escalation in costs as we find our
way through time, partially due to geopolitical consequences, partially due to
everything that’s happened the last number of years. So there may be a cost
escalation in some of even the most recent reports that have been provided to
the government.
But
I would say with respect to this slide show that’s been tabled here, I’ll
provide it to SaskPower and they may have some answers with respect to it. And
I’d leave that to the power utility.
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Chair, I have a sneaking suspicion
that the Premier doesn’t have to make his way over to Victoria Avenue. He could
turn around and ask that minister . . . [inaudible] . . .
Mr. Chair, 300 times the initially reported costs: well that’s one heck of a
cost escalation. And it’s going to be the people of this province who are
paying for it. Not just the people today, Mr. Chair. It’s going to be their
children and their grandchildren and their great-grandchildren.
If
this really is that Premier’s plan, how many more times does he think he is
going to have to raise power rates on the people of this province? I’m sure
people out there, Mr. Chair, would like to know that.
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Premier of
Saskatchewan.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Thank you, Mr. Chair. I can’t answer
that question because this is not the government’s plan. It’s a slide show that
has been provided and tabled by the Leader of the Opposition. It’s not the
government’s plan.
I’ve
reiterated what our most recent update of the Hatch report is with respect to
those numbers, Mr. Chair. And we are going to move forward with that
information that we have. So I don’t know where . . . Well they say
SaskPower on them, private and confidential or whatever they say. They’re
tabled by the Leader of the Opposition. But I can assure you this is not the
plan of the Government of Saskatchewan, so I can’t answer that question.
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Well, Mr. Chair, suddenly the Premier
is interested in natural gas. Not LNG but natural gas. So I have a question for
him. How many natural gas plants could this Premier, this government buy for
that $26 billion?
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Premier of
Saskatchewan.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Chair, as I say again, that’s not
our plan. But the estimated cost of a 350‑megawatt natural gas plant
today is about two and a half billion dollars. And that doesn’t really matter
whether you burn natural gas or LNG in it. That’s the capital cost of a 350‑megawatt
natural gas plant today. You can see with the Hatch report of $2.6 billion
that that’s a far more economical path to move forward, even if there are some
inflationary costs to that number over the next number of years.
Further
to that, Mr. Chair, further to that, what this allows us to do is to take our
workforce in Coronach and in Estevan, and to work alongside them with
transitioning them to a nuclear future, so that those very same families that
are currently working in our facilities in Coronach and Estevan can, over the
next 5 to 10 years or even longer, Mr. Chair, transition their training, their
abilities, maybe the next generation, their children’s abilities to work
generating power just like people have for many decades in those two
communities.
This
is a structured plan. It’s a plan that provides continuity to those
communities. It’s a plan that provides electricity security to industries that
are investing here, and it’s a plan that is focused on affordable, reliable
power today and into the future.
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Chair, let’s get back to those
reliable power rates that that SIECA letter talked about. Or I think, as we
have seen today, incredibly unreliable numbers from that government, unreliable
power rates going into the future.
Quoting
the Chair about this Premier’s approach — remember, this was when we were at
$2.6 billion and two sneak rate hikes — the Chair said, “We’ve expressed
concern to the government about the process. This isn’t the way it was
designed.” We’ve had a lot happen since then, Mr. Chair.
Why should Saskatchewan people have any
faith, any faith at all about this rate review process when the Premier’s own
Chair of the panel is expressing concerns? And again, that was before we knew
the price tag was $26 billion.
Chair
B. McLeod:
— I recognize the Premier of Saskatchewan.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Thank you, Mr. Chair. I am going to
work off definitely the plan that we put in place, Mr. Chair. I’m not going to
work off the slide show that was tabled from over two years ago apparently, Mr.
Chair.
But
with respect to the process, Mr. Chair, of where we, yes, have seen an increase
in rates in the current time, we look at the utility bundle that we have in
this province and we compare that to other provinces across the nation. And we
also look at the investments that are being made in this province when those
very investments have the opportunity to invest in other parts of not only
Canada but around the world, Mr. Chair.
[16:45]
So
with respect to the utility bundle that we have, Mr. Chair, we’re $800 less
than British Columbia, $1,800 less than a family in Quebec, $3,700 less than
New Brunswick, $4,200 less than Nova Scotia, 4,900 less than Ontario, and 4,800
less than Alberta.
I
would say that that is the reason that the people of Saskatchewan can take this
government very, very seriously, Mr. Chair. We have the second-lowest utility
bundle in the nation of Canada.
Rates
have increased in this province before, not when we were facing significant
changes like looking at what our nuclear future is going to entail, Mr. Chair.
In 2004 under the members opposite — and in about a 12‑month period with
an interim rate and a regular rate increase — rates in this province went up
just under 11 per cent, Mr. Chair. So that has happened before.
What
we are seeing today is far less than that, Mr. Chair. And we’re going to
continue working with SaskPower utility as well as our other utilities, Mr.
Chair, to ensure that we can continue to keep the utility bundle in this
province one of the lowest in Canada. And today it’s the second lowest.
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Leader of
Saskatchewan’s Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Chair, while I truly, truly
appreciate the Minister for SaskPower’s newfound solidarity this close to May
Day with the workers in Estevan, I do sincerely wish that he would have found
his way to have a plan at any time for those workers before he announced this
surprise, I think, to almost everyone in the province that he was going to
refurbish coal.
Now I wonder, does the Premier know how
many natural gas plants . . . or how big the cheque would be that he
could write to every one of those workers impacted? And absolutely we should be
concerned about those communities and those workers, right? How big would that
cheque be to every one of those workers, Mr. Chair, and still be able to build
out those natural gas plants? Or for the cost he’s suggesting, even finance an
SMR [small modular reactor]? How big would that cheque be? To the Premier.
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Premier of
Saskatchewan.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Speaker, I think important to
clarify for all of us on the floor of this Assembly when we start talking
about, you know, what is the plan, what is in the plan, Mr. Chair. And I’ve
been clear, and we’ve been very transparent with respect to what the most
recent costs that we have, the Hatch report of about $2.6 billion for our
plan to utilize existing assets to find our way to a nuclear future in this
province, providing reliable, affordable power for Saskatchewan industries so
we can continue to attract those industries at a record rate of which we are
right now; in fact, unlike anything we’ve seen in the province’s history.
Mr.
Chair, the slide show that was tabled, not the government’s plan, let’s just be
clear with respect to that. I had said the 350 megawatt natural gas facilities,
I believe they’re coming in at about two and a half billion dollars today,
which speaks to the inflationary pressures that we’ve seen. I believe the first
one that I had seen come through, you know, the cabinet and the caucus process
was just under a billion dollars, the one at Swift Current, a number of years
ago. Moose Jaw was higher, and now we’re seeing that cost increase
exponentially, Mr. Chair.
And
I think in fairness we’re seeing a lot of those private sector investments —
whether it be the potash mine at Jansen with BHP or the expansion at K+S or the
Cargill crush plant just outside of the city — have also experienced those
inflationary costs that are there. But that is the government’s plan with the
most recent updates that we have. Not the two-year-old slide show that was
produced here.
We’ve
seen, Mr. Chair, also a plan come out of the members opposite with respect to
power. We’ve seen commitments to other plans as well. The plan that they
released for power didn’t go so well. It was LNG, LNG, LNG. All day long it was
LNG. And then, “Oh, that’s 10 times the cost; that’s not our plan.”
We’ve
seen that same action with respect to voting for and supporting the federal
government’s carbon tax: “Oh. Oh no, that’s not our plan.” And it’s no wonder
they don’t want to release the other plans that they’ve committed that they
were going to work on.
I
remember words with respect to a, I think its big, bold, beautiful health care
plan. Mr. Chair, something quite Trumponian actually in its title, Mr. Chair.
But I note how far they got with that particular plan was hiring an American
consultant — a little bit offside with respect to local procurement. That
wasn’t good enough, so they started to take inspiration from an American actor,
Mr. Chair, to help that American consultant. And then the first plank of that
plan was to stand on the floor of this Assembly, the Health critic, and
indicate that, you know, people just shouldn’t go into health care in this
province.
Well
we don’t believe that to be true. We believe there is a great future for caring
individuals to go in and to serve their community — their friends and
neighbours and people they live with — in our health care sector, Mr. Chair.
And we’re working very hard to ensure that they are supported by this
government and broadly by the people of the province.
They
went on to vote against this budget that funded all of the initiatives in our
patients-first plan, Mr. Chair, another plan released by this government. Fifty
action items going to improve outcomes and going to ensure that we are taking
the first steps to ensure that people can receive the right care at the right
time in the right place, Mr. Chair.
But
I have a question for the Leader of the Opposition with respect to releasing
plans as well, Mr. Chair. And there is a reason why people in this province
don’t take the NDP seriously, the NDP opposition seriously. In fact, Mr. Chair,
I would say that not even some of what was, until yesterday, their previous
MLAs don’t take them seriously.
And
will the Leader of the Opposition release the secret drug plan that the people
of this province paid for and she refuses to release, Mr. Chair? Will she
release that plan?
Chair
B. McLeod:
— I recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Ah, Mr. Chair, there will be signs.
So
while he’s flooding the zone I will remind the Premier of the question. The
answer, in case he didn’t quite get to the math there, was $10 million for
every one of those workers impacted. And absolutely we should take care of
them, make sure that they are taken care of during this transition, Mr.
Speaker.
But,
Mr. Chair. I’m going to go back to something the Premier has repeatedly gone
back to. He’s suggesting that these slides, these SaskPower board documents,
are from 2024. I disagree with him. But we’ve disagreed before.
But if that is indeed the case that
these slides are from 2024, can he explain to the people of this province why
he has kept this $26 billion cost hidden from the people of this province?
And how exactly did he not understand or know that there was going to be a
power rate increase when he stood in his place in this Assembly on December the
4th, 2025 and promised that was the case?
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Premier of
Saskatchewan.
Hon. Scott Moe: — What did you say? November 2024 was
what I read off the first slide in the slide show that was tabled. And so that
was what I was referencing, Mr. Chair. It’s the first time myself or the
government has seen that particular slide show.
Mr.
Chair, we have a plan. It’s the energy security strategy for Saskatchewan. It
involves utilizing our existing assets. As I’ve said time and time again, that
plan includes the most recent Hatch report, a $2.6 billion refurbishment
cost. There may be some inflationary escalation to all of our costs in every
industry, including the electricity industry as well, Mr. Chair. That’s the
plan that we’re moving forward with.
And
so I can’t speak to the other plan. Maybe the members opposite can continue to
speak to that as well. But I would just say that, you know, as we find our way
through this conversation, I agree with members opposite when she says there
will be signs. Mr. Speaker, one of those signs is when one of your caucus
members says, and I quote, “In good conscience I can no longer support the
direction of Carla Beck’s leadership.” Mr. Chair, there will be signs. I would
say in fact there are already signs, Mr. Speaker.
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Well sometimes memories are short
around here, Mr. Chair. So I will remind the Premier that there was a day
during the election, I believe it was the day that the Premier stood up and
proudly said that his first priority, should he form government, was to go
after trans kids. I think it was that day that I stood with three former MLAs,
two former Speakers — or a former Speaker and a former Deputy Speaker — and
Brad Wall’s former speech writer, saying that they had lost confidence in this
government and that Premier.
A
lot has happened since then, Mr. Chair. A lot has happened today:
$26 billion; the entire budget just over $22 billion; the entire debt
from the beginning of this province until today, over $43 billion.
Although the Premier, you know, he’s got a sizable portion that he can credit
to himself and his decisions, Mr. Chair.
But I have a serious question. How
exactly is this government planning to pay for this $26 billion? Is it
debt? Is it going to be $26 billion in rate hikes? Or will it be a
combination of both? Because, Mr. Chair, it cannot be neither. And Saskatchewan
people are going to be the ones on the hook.
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Premier of
Saskatchewan.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Chair, the energy security plan
that I had spoken to with the most recent report of $2.6 billion to
refurbish our existing assets, that’s the plan. There is no plan to have the
. . . It might be their plan, Mr. Speaker, the members opposite, but
there’s no plan for us to extract $26 billion and have the people of this
province pay for that type of a plan.
That
may be the plan that they had recommended to them by that consultant in Quebec
that recommended LNG. I don’t know if he recommended LNG or if they
misinterpreted, Mr. Chair, because we haven’t seen, you know, that document as
well.
But
our plan is very clear. It’s the energy security strategy in this province, Mr.
Chair. We have the most recent Hatch report. We’ve submitted those numbers to
the rate review committee, Mr. Chair, and that is the plan as we move forward.
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Chair, the Premier continues to
stand up and claim that this is not his government’s plan; this is SaskPower’s
plan. And remarkably, Mr. Chair, this plan that has been tabled today, these
SaskPower board documents, lays out the same timelines, the same consultants,
everything.
[17:00]
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Premier of
Saskatchewan.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Chair, no matter how many times the
Leader of the Opposition asks questions around the slide show that she tabled,
it’s not our plan. Our plan has been very clear. I’ve said what our plan is on
the floor of this Assembly, Mr. Chair. It involves refurbishing those existing
assets that we have — the latest report is $2.6 billion — as we find our
way to a nuclear future, Mr. Chair.
Our
plan will be rooted in providing affordable, reliable power now and into the
future so we can continue to attract those investments, of which we are doing
today, unlike anywhere else in our nation and unlike any other time in the
history of the province of Saskatchewan. That is the plan that the Government
of Saskatchewan is putting forward before the people of Saskatchewan and will
continue to move forward on, Mr. Chair.
And
one of the most exciting things about that particular plan is, in it
Saskatchewan is today and will remain the only carbon tax-free jurisdiction in
the nation of Canada, Mr. Speaker — no help from the members opposite.
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Chair, I hope that that Premier
finds his way to a good heart-to-heart with that minister. But you know, as
much as I would really, really like to spend more time on this . . .
And I guarantee you there will be more questions. There will be more time.
There will be signs. This Premier and this government are failing on so many
fronts that I think that we should move on to some of those other concerns in
this province.
Perhaps
no one is being failed more than health care workers in our province right now.
A reminder that these are health care workers who have not only been holding up
the system for years, that are burning out, these health care workers have been
without a raise for four years in this province. Meanwhile while they haven’t
had a raise, we’ve seen compensation at SHA [Saskatchewan Health Authority]
rise time and time again.
Mr.
Chair, it’s not fair. And it is no wonder with this level of disrespect, with
their frozen wages, that health care workers are leaving the province and
leaving the profession altogether, leaving Saskatchewan people without the
health care that they need and deserve.
Now
the health care workers that I talk to, Mr. Chair, say that there should be no
raises for those at the top until there are raises for those who are struggling
providing that care on the front line.
Well
I sure agree with that. Does the Premier agree?
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Premier of
Saskatchewan.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Chair, just a little bit of context
with respect to this question. I think I’m in the right space, taking a little
bit of liberty with the reference, but it’s with the provider unions that I
think that the question was directed at. And so that’s where I’ll direct my
answer.
A
number of years ago, and I can recall this, when we had I believe it was 11 health
regions across the province plus . . . 12 plus the Cancer Agency. And
we brought those together under the one single Saskatchewan Health Authority in
this province. In doing so, in certain designations we had multiple organized
representatives in those various health regions.
When
SAHO [Saskatchewan Association of Health Organizations] works with the provider
unions through the negotiations that we have — and we are at the negotiating
table as we speak — it’s with three provider unions: SEIU [Service Employees
International Union], CUPE [Canadian Union of Public Employees], and SGEU.
Mr.
Chair, we do understand that this has gone on a number of years, the
negotiations that are here. That was realized back in 2025 when there was an
interim offer made, understanding there’s affordability challenges for
individuals across the province, including those that work in our health care
sector. There was a 3 per cent interim adjustment that would have allowed for
some of that retroactive pay to flow. They weren’t able to come to an agreement
on that interim adjustment that was offered.
Mr.
Chair, I would just say that as of April of this year, there’s been a total of
21 days — since February of this year — so there’s a number of days that
they’ve been at the bargaining table. There’s financial offers that have been
offered at that bargaining table, Mr. Chair.
And
I would just say this. It is the government’s intent to support those
negotiations, whether it be with the financial offers or the other bargaining
discussions that happen at that table, to find a deal that not only works for
our health care workers but to find a deal that ensures it is effective in
improving outcomes for patients across this province regardless of where they
may live.
That’s
why we came forward with the patients-first initiative. And that initiative has
opportunities to expand the scope of what our . . . allow our health
care workers to work at their full level of training and the full level of
their discipline.
But
there’s other action items in that. There’s other action items in that
patients-first document that also go further to support our health care
workers, bringing in tools and innovation that’s available today that may not
have been just a few years ago so that they can improve those health care
outcomes, which we know they always want to do.
So
there is financial offers at the table. And we are doing everything we can to
support an agreement that would work not only for those health care workers and
those three provider unions and other health care unions as well, but a deal
that also works for improving the outcomes of patients across this province.
I would just note, you know, one
challenge with . . . I think there was a bill introduced on capping.
The intent was to cap executive pay in the health region. We had a look at that
particular bill. I don’t think it’s worded correctly. It’s actually only
capping the remuneration that board members would receive. So, Mr. Speaker,
just maybe another reason why it’s sometimes a little challenging to take the
members opposite seriously.
Chair
B. McLeod:
— I recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Well, Mr.
Chair, I’m sure that those health care workers are going to be very interested
in those tools and those innovations after this government actually gets to the
table and ensures that they have a raise. And they’ve been waiting for four
years, Mr. Chair. And I would suggest to the Premier, if he really wants to
show those workers some respect — and gosh, that is long overdue — he would not
try to bargain on the floor of this Assembly. He would actually direct people
to get to the table and get a fair deal for those health care workers in our
province.
Now again he’s talked about it here, the human
health resources plan as if it’s some sort of a silver bullet. This government
is very, very proud of their plans that they wave around. They don’t really
stand up in the real world, Mr. Chair. Another one of those silver bullets that
this government touted as being the cure to all of our problems were those
urgent care centres. Now I’m going to quote from the Premier from a post on X
where he said:
They were getting ready to set up. And
early next year the new urgent health care centre, it will focus on mental
health and addictions with a dedicated entrance for those who require
specialized support. Operating on a 24‑7 basis, the new urgent care
centre will offer an array of health care services for those who require care
but do not necessarily need to go to an emergency room.
Mr.
Chair, that building has never, never been open 24‑7. In fact these days
it’s lucky to be open banker’s hours. That is because — and I hope this isn’t a
revelation — those buildings do not provide health care for Saskatchewan
people; it is those hard-working health care workers.
Will the Premier accept responsibility
for yet another failed promise to the people of this province?
Chair B. McLeod: — I recognize the Premier of
Saskatchewan.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. First
the Leader of the Opposition is correct. We do wave around our plans, Mr.
Speaker. We certainly release them to the public. We don’t muzzle plans like
they have with their drug plan, Mr. Chair, or with their big, bold, beautiful
health care plan, Mr. Speaker. Ours is right there for the people of this
province to see and to read.
In
fact at that very municipal convention, the SUMA convention, Mr. Chair, while
the member opposite was talking about her LNG power plan, we were placing our
patients-first plan on every chair and every table in that convention because
we wanted people to take it home, and we wanted them to read about the 50
action items in this plan that are going to improve outcomes in their community
when it comes to the opportunities that they have to access our health care
system.
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We
wanted them to read about the ability for them to access the right care in the
right time at the right place regardless of where they live across this
province. And we wanted them to read about those 50 action items that are going
to ensure that health care in this province will be better tomorrow than it is
today.
Part
of that plan is — as it was referenced in the question — the health human
resource action plan that we have in this province, also released, Mr. Chair,
to the people of this province. The most ambitious health human resource plan
in the nation of Canada, Mr. Chair.
So
let’s put that plan to the test with respect to what results have come from
that ambitious health human resource plan. Hired more than 7,500 health care
workers since 2022; 346 more physicians; 2,000 more nurses. Four hundred health
care workers have come directly from the Philippines, Mr. Chair.
But
I wanted to comment as well as per the question on the urgent care centre. 65,000
patients have been through the doors of the urgent care centre. What we’re
seeing is a significant patient flow through the urgent care centre that is
. . . [inaudible interjection] . . . And we’re going to
build another one. The member says it’s not enough. We’re going to build
another one not only in Regina, two in Saskatoon, Mr. Chair.
And
through our most ambitious health human resource plan, Mr. Chair, we’re going
to ensure that we have the nurse practitioners, we have the physicians, the RNs
[registered nurse], and the people to staff not only those urgent care centres,
but the Prince Albert Victoria Hospital, a renewed Yorkton hospital, the
Weyburn hospital when it opens, and the 400 acute care beds that we are in the
process of expanding largely in the city of Saskatoon but across this province,
Mr. Chair.
But I wanted to comment on the urgent
care centres because the member actually is correct. It’s not enough. We need
to build more and we need to recruit more people into health care in our
province. Unlike the critic in their health care plan who said people shouldn’t
go work in health care, we believe that people should choose a career in health
care, a career of serving their community members and a career serving people,
Mr. Chair, across this province.
65,000 people that otherwise would’ve
been in an emergency room here in our capital city of Regina have had the
opportunity to have care sooner at the urgent care centre. And very shortly
they’ll have even a greater opportunity as we build one and open one in
Saskatoon as well, Mr. Chair.
And so we are going to keep building, we
are going to keep recruiting, and we are going to ensure that the 50 action
items in that patients-first health care plan, Mr. Chair, that we do wave
around often . . . And we’re going to continue to wave it around and
then we’re going to update it. We’re going to wave that one around as well, Mr.
Chair, because we’re very proud of the initiatives that are in here. We’re very
proud of the fact that they’re funded in this budget. And we would invite the members
opposite to vote for that appropriation later this week or next week when it
comes, Mr. Chair.
With respect to Bill 48, The
Compassionate Intervention Act that was discussed the other day, there was
a number of amendments that were put forward by the members opposite. And I
spoke earlier of the fact that a number of those amendments actually are
included in the bill, Mr. Chair.
But I wanted to speak to a few of the
other amendments that had actually changed the intent of the bill and who is
going to be able to provide service, health care service to patients
essentially, to Saskatchewan residents. And I want to transpose this as to what
the view of the members opposite is across our health care system.
A number of those amendments: we want to
expand the opportunity for people to work at their full scope of training, the
full scope of what their discipline will allow anywhere in the nation of
Canada. We want to mirror that here. Expand the opportunity for nurse
practitioners, for example, and other health care professionals to provide
health care service to Saskatchewan residents.
So part of what is in The
Compassionate Intervention Act, and part of what is in the patients-first
plan, is to expand that scope, provide that opportunity for people to have
access to a health care professional. Not necessarily always a physician, but
at times, yes, it does need to be a physician. But there are nurse
practitioners that are working and being trained to work in our health care
system today. There are RNs. There are many other professionals that can
provide many of the services today and into the future.
And so many of the amendments that came
forward are actually about narrowing that scope of service for those health
care professionals and actually looking towards requiring a physician for each
and every practice, each and every service that is being provided there, Mr.
Chair. That isn’t expanding access to health care.
And
if that is the intent of the members opposite, is to narrow our health care
services to where only physicians can lead the teams, Mr. Chair, we want the
entirety of the team to be made up of the entirety of health care professionals
that are available, working at the full scope of their service. Working as a
true team to deliver improved access, improved health care services. Have an
improved health care experience when Saskatchewan patients, families, and
individuals have to access health care in our province.
Chair
B. McLeod: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Chair, I’ll
give them this: they’ve got ambition. They’ve got a lot of confidence in their
own selves. They’re really good at self-congratulation, even putting a new
cover on a report that was first released in 2009. But the results of this
government unfortunately speak for themselves, and they need a lot more work.
I’m going to address something. I’m
going to take the time because I haven’t had the ability to do this in question
period. And that is that quote that the Premier continuously attributes to the
member from Regina Elphinstone-Centre.
First of all, Mr. Premier, through the
Chair: that member, her family are very much aware of the challenges in health
care in this province and have done service to people in this city for a very
long time. I’m going to start there.
The other thing I’m going to say is that
quote is directly from a health care worker who is expressing just how much
working in a system where you feel disrespected, where you don’t get holidays,
where you don’t get a raise, how much that is burning those health care workers
out. And yes, perhaps understandably in some cases, leading them to suggest to
others that, unless the system gets fixed, that they might want to consider
something else. Of course we don’t want that to happen. We want this government
to do their job and fix our health care system.
You know, there’s another item I wanted
to talk about, and that’s Bill 606, again brought forward by the member for
Walsh Acres. It’s a good, practical private member’s bill, but another one of
those bills that was built talking to the people of this province, listening to
their concerns.
Now the Premier and the Sask Party, they
voted for this bill at second reading but against it at third, which is
unusual. I wonder if it was because some of those members were hearing from
their constituents. Because we certainly have — people who have pulled up to an
emergency room in rural Saskatchewan, in some cases symptoms of a heart attack
or a serious injury, only to be directed by a piece of paper in that emergency
room to drive down the highway, often in the other direction. This is
dangerous, and it is going to cost people, in rural Saskatchewan in particular,
their lives, Mr. Chair.
Now right now . . . And we’ve
already talked about the Highway Hotline once here today. You can, and I think
this spring probably many of us have, repeatedly looked at the Highway Hotline.
You can not only see the condition of highways in our province in real time,
you can also follow, if you click on those plows, where the plow is in real
time. I think that is a good idea. It’s good use of taxpayers’ dollars. It is
valuable information.
But
how is it that we can know in real time where every snowplow is in this
province, but we don’t know which emergency rooms are open or not or what
services are provided? And why does the Premier think that Saskatchewan people
should be in the dark when it comes to something as important as this, a matter
of life and death?
Chair B. McLeod:
— I recognize the Premier of Saskatchewan.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Chair, thank
you. Thank you very much. Mr. Chair, as the question was asked and answered I
think quite well by our Health minister, I believe it was yesterday in question
period, and likely been answered in multiple media avails as well, we voted for
that bill because we do agree with that bill in principle. We do agree with
notifying as often and as soon as we can — and I think the SHA does agree with
this as well — people of any temporary disruptions that may occur in health
facilities across this province.
Now it’s important to understand the
difference between a disruption and a closure. Mr. Chair, there is no closures
that this government is discussing. However there are temporary disruptions,
despite those 7,500 health care workers that I spoke of earlier that have been
acquired into this system, hired into our health care system, Mr. Chair,
through the most ambitious health human resource plan in the nation of Canada.
And so we do believe in the principle of
informing Saskatchewan residents as quickly as the Saskatchewan Health
Authority is able to do so. And so through the discussions with Saskatchewan
Health Authority, the minister came to the conclusion, with their advice, that
at a minimum, at a minimum, that they would update their website with respect
to any disruptions at 9 a.m. and 4 p.m., twice a day or as soon as is possible,
Mr. Chair. And so they may be able to do it more often, Mr. Chair.
And I would just say this is a point of
pretty broad agreement between the members opposite and the government, Mr.
Chair, working within the confines of what the SHA feels that they’re able to
accomplish. So it will be updated at 9 a.m., 4 p.m., or sooner if the SHA is
able to get it updated in a sooner fashion. And I would say that is a positive.
So good job by the members opposite. I
don’t say that often. Introduced a bill. Created some change that is, I think,
more responsive to Saskatchewan residents. It’s something that the Saskatchewan
Health Authority can actually operationally do. We may move towards potentially
doing that in a more frequent fashion if the Health Authority is able to do so.
But I’d just say like, you know, take the win.
Not for me to give advice to the
opposition in particular after, you know, this past week, this session. And I
talked about some of the challenges that the members opposite have had this
session, but even in the past day. A day ago they had four Health critics. Now
they have three, Mr. Chair.
Take the win when it’s put forward. You
put forward a bill. You created change, change that is positive for
Saskatchewan people. Largely the government agrees in principle with the
initiative and we’ve acted with respect to what the Saskatchewan Health
Authority can do. Take the win.
Chair
B. McLeod: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Well, Mr. Chair,
I’m glad the Premier is amusing himself as we talk about the failures of his
government to address the health care concerns faced by people across this
province.
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I will give him this — more responsive,
yes. But what is possible, what the people of this province deserve, no. We
know that there is an internal SHA map that is live, that does these updates
live, that this government could and should use to inform people of this
province in real time.
Nine and four, sure, that’s better than
what they had, Mr. Chair. I guess you try to schedule your heart attack before
they do that 4 o’clock update so you know where you need to go, Mr. Chair. But
it is not good enough for the people of this province.
I honestly hope — hoped — that the
Premier would’ve learned some lessons and done absolutely everything in their
power to make sure that what happened last year doesn’t happen again this year
or any time into the future.
Now the Premier and that government
rejected calls from the member from Cumberland and Athabasca, put forward at
the request, the urging of the people that they served, the people who were
most impacted by these fires, for an unbiased, public-facing inquiry and
recommendations into what went wrong last year and how do we make it better
this year. That was rejected by this government.
Instead they decided to engage with MNP,
commissioned that report. And I’ll remind this Assembly that we were supposed
to see that report. It was supposed to be finished in February of this year.
It’s now May. We are past the time when some of those fires, including the fire
that wiped out Denare Beach, started last year and we have yet to see that
report.
We also learned at committee that two
water bombers will remain grounded in this province until July. Again we’re in
May. Wildfire season has already started. Another one is not going to arrive
until August.
How
exactly, Mr. Chair, is it that this government was caught flat-footed again? We
haven’t seen that report and we have no assurance to provide the people in the
North, who went through the worst summer, the worst wildfire season of their
lives.
How
is it that our water bomber fleet is not fully operational? And what does this
Premier, what does this government have to say to all of those people who are
facing another wildfire season in this province?
Chair
B. McLeod: — I recognize the Premier of
Saskatchewan.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Chair, I’d just address a number of
items in the question that was there. First I would say thank you to so many
that stepped up to defend communities in last year’s wildfire challenge.
There was, you
know, community leaders, homeowners — yes, cabin owners — individuals,
municipal fire departments went above and beyond, Mr. Chair. We tried to show
some appreciation in this year’s budget with some incentives for those
individuals that work with their municipal fire departments, of which there was
many throughout the North.
And
unfortunately in this province — and it is Saskatchewan — many of those same
municipal departments are out addressing some of the flooding that we’re seeing
up the east side and across the north part of our province, alongside highways,
workers and many others. So, Mr. Chair, just let me start with a thank you to
those individuals.
And there is
an opportunity — and I’ve spoken to this — for myself to do better and for
myself to have been in those northern communities sooner. I’ve said that
publicly and I’d repeat that again. And that was a mistake that I had made and
one that I had apologized to the members in . . . the residents of
Denare Beach.
Mr. Chair,
with respect to the water bombers, the refurbishment of our water bomber fleet,
we’ve ordered, as we know, four Dash 8‑Q400s. One of those came last
year. One will be coming this summer. There’ll be two more coming in subsequent
years as well. Our current fleet of aircrafts is the Convair 580As. Those are
land-based air tankers that, I believe, these Q400s would be replacing over
time. There’s three of those Convairs.
The Q400ATs, those are the
land-based tankers, Mr. Chair. There’s one of those that is flying. There’ll be
one come on in Q2 [second quarter]. Hold on. I’m on the Q400s here, the wrong
one. CL‑215s are our tankers, the amphibious tankers. That’s what I
wanted to get to. There’s six of those. A number of helicopters are on
contract, eight helicopters, as well as a number of Bird Dog Turbo Commanders
and others, Mr. Chair.
With respect to . . . And I’d
just point to a conversation I had with Grand Chief Hardlotte the other day of
an agreement that we’ve been working on to train more type 3 firefighters
throughout the North. And this actually does tie into an agreement that we had
with the federal government last year in the midst of the challenging situation
that we had, Mr. Chair, where folks maybe wouldn’t go work as a type 3
firefighter because they might have some of the federal benefits discounted or
removed.
And so we phoned Minister Champagne
actually at the time and asked if we could stop that. And he moved very
quickly, to his credit, you know, working alongside the federal government,
another thing I haven’t said a lot of in the last decade. And we’re appreciative
of the effort. And then we were able to mirror that with any provincial
benefits as well, preventing the removal of those benefits and allowing, you
know, folks to go and to work as type 3 firefighters.
Brian Hardlotte’s conversation within
the last month was the opportunity we had now to work together with SPSA and
PAGC [Prince Albert Grand Council] on training additional type 3 and maybe some
type 2 firefighters as well, have them stationed in northern communities over
the months and years ahead. And so it was a very positive conversation, in
addition to some of the land clearing, some of the other opportunities that we
have to work with communities to make our northern communities as safe as
possible.
Mr. Chair, with respect to the MNP
report, the release of that report, we’ve been informed it has been delayed.
We’ve all been informed of that, the reason being they wanted to have more
conversations with more people. Which I would say, I don’t care for the delay.
However a thorough report being done is the goal of the government, and I
believe it would be the goal of everyone involved.
When that report is complete — I would
hope it’s complete in a matter of days, not weeks or months; I mean, that’s our
latest indication, Mr. Chair — we’d make that report available publicly. And we
thank all of the folks that are partaking in that process and providing advice
to the government, to the SPSA. And you know, we’ll certainly make that report
public when we receive it.
Mr. Chair, there’s one other item that
we’ve approached the federal government on, and I’ve spoke with a number of
folks in northern communities. I think this is an initiative that we want to
undertake in a collaborative way — in much the same way we look to federal
government, provincial government, and local communities in infrastructure
funding, to maybe some of our business risk management programs in the
agriculture sector — is to share the cost of working together to FireSmart our
communities in the North.
And I think there is an opportunity for
that conversation. There’s a willing province. And I think on first
conversations that we’ve had throughout this winter with the federal
government, they seem to be willing to at least partake in the conversation and
share those costs with the province and with the local communities so that we
can further FireSmart many of our northern communities to keep them safe.
When we see, you know, it was a pretty
unprecedented and challenging summer, tragic summer for all too many that lost
their homes — yes, in Denare Beach, in East Trout Lake, and we’ve seen that in
years gone by in Fort McMurray and Jasper recently, Mr. Chair. And we want to
prevent that kind of tragedy from happening to any Saskatchewan community,
including those throughout northern Saskatchewan.
So I think that is the next opportunity
that we have to work with the federal government, to work with northern
communities, is to enhance the FireSmarting programs that we have.
Chair
B. McLeod: — I recognize the Leader of
Saskatchewan’s Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Chair, I’m
glad to hear that the government perhaps finally is taking up PAGC on the
recommendation to start training more class 3 firefighters. I know those
recommendations have been sitting in front of this government for a number of
years, I think going back to 2019. So perhaps they’re . . . I thank
Grand Chief Hardlotte and PAGC for all of their advocacy, and I think that’s
good news.
You know, I’m not clairvoyant, Mr.
Chair, for the release date has been delayed. I would expect probably May 14th
or 15th, but who knows? I will say to the government, we will still be paying
attention, and so will the people of this province, especially the people in
the North, when that report is finally released. I know we’ve talked a lot
about the problems that this government has created or ignored, going back
almost 20 years, but I am excited to talk about some of the solutions that
we’re putting forward.
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The Premier mentioned that, you know,
this report is delayed because MNP had more people to talk to. Well I guarantee
you, when you see that report on the big, bold solutions in health care, it
will be because we have had so many people in this province who want to speak
up, work with this team to deliver the change that they need to see in our
health care system in this province. And those consultations continue. You can
expect that report coming very soon, at least the initial report.
And really this has been . . .
And you know, after the last election, we saw for a few moments — remember
those? — I think the Premier was a little bit rattled. There’s been some
movement in this Assembly. He promised, you know, hand over heart, he’d heard
the people of this province, that he was going to do better, that they had
learned their lesson.
We’ve had a number of hours here in
committee. They’ve heard the Premier’s response. I think the people of this
province can judge for themselves whether this is a government that has learned
any lessons, has turned over any leaves, or if they are pretty darn content
with themselves and happy to continue to clap for themselves. I’ll leave that
with them.
But I don’t think that the contrast
honestly can be more clear. This is a team, each and every one of them, that
every day is connecting with people in this province, very much so fulfilling
our role as the official opposition, which is our role. To scrutinize, to bring
forth concerns, to hold the government to account — it’s an important role.
But this is a team also that is focused
on delivering the change, the choice that Saskatchewan people so desperately
need in this province right now. As I said, when that report comes out, that
initial report on our health care consultations, I promise to send you a copy.
You won’t even have to google it.
But I will give you a little bit of a
sneak peek. One of those ideas that’s going to come out of that plan is ending
out-of-pocket fees in health care. We’ve got a bill in front of the Assembly
right now. In fact we’ve got a number of bills in front of the Assembly right
now, but that one is there.
Chair B. McLeod:
— I recognize the Premier of Saskatchewan.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Chair, as you
know, in our patients-first initiative, our initiative with 50 action items to
improve the outcomes in our health care system — to provide that right care at
the right time in the right place — in amongst those 50 action items is some targets
with respect to surgeries. And those are not surgeries that anyone needs to
bring their credit card out for, Mr. Chair.
102,000 surgeries performed this past
year, just announced yesterday I believe. 100,000 surgeries the year before.
Both of those record numbers of surgeries being done in our province, Mr.
Chair, as we embark on performing 450,000 surgeries over the next four years.
We’re two years into that, Mr. Chair, and we very much are going to ensure that
we’re able to achieve that target.
In that patients-first health care
document, Mr. Chair, the ability for . . . One of those action items
and one of those targets is for everyone to, for 90 per cent of folks to have a
diagnostic within 60 days; for everyone to have access to a surgery in three
months. Those are targets that you’re not seeing in any other province across
the nation of Canada, Mr. Chair.
We are only able to put forward those
targets with the investments that have been made through this budget. And I
urge the members opposite one more time to consider voting in support of those
appropriations to ensure that they can be part of the solution in this
province. Part of the opportunity to improve access to health care, improve
outcomes for Saskatchewan families, Mr. Chair. Funding that health human
resource plan, funding the expansion of seats at the College of Medicine,
funding the expansion of seats at the nurse practitioner, the nurse
. . . the seats for nurse practitioners to be trained in — both in
this province, Mr. Chair.
But what we hear all too often from the
members opposite is this ingrained rooting in ideology, Mr. Chair. We are a
government that is talking to people across this province, and we are going to
utilize every tool that we have to improve health care in this province. That
includes, where we can, to have publicly funded and at times privately
delivered health care services, Mr. Chair. And I would go back really
. . . There’s a few places where the inspiration for this came from a
number of years ago, probably prior, well for sure prior, before I even had the
honour to sit in this chair.
But you look at fee-for-service
physicians across this province. They are private businesses, Mr. Chair. They
are publicly funded, and they provide services in community after community
after community. They have a fee-for-service billing schedule of which they
hire their own staff and operate their own clinic. They are private businesses,
Mr. Chair, working within a publicly funded health care system. We support
that, Mr. Chair.
When you look at the changes that we had
made with respect to publicly funded, privately delivered diagnostics and lab
services in this province, what happened is that we started to look through the
health care services that were being offered across Saskatchewan, and we saw
that if you were a workers’ compensation, or a WCB [Workers’ Compensation
Board] client or a Saskatchewan Roughrider, you were able to actually access a
private diagnostic in this province. However the rest of us were not able to.
Now I tried really hard to be a
professional hockey player, and we didn’t have football in my school, Mr.
Chair. Still not exactly happy with the fact that they removed that when I got
to grade 7, but I’m getting over it, Mr. Chair. But I was not going to qualify,
nor was any other Saskatchewan resident going to qualify for one of those
private diagnostics.
What we did is we extended that
two-for-one system. Someone would have to purchase two diagnostics. They would
utilize one of them and add another one to the system for someone else to be
able to access to shorten our wait-lists when it comes to diagnostics. What we
did was expand the program that was under the members opposite to all residents
of the province, Mr. Chair.
What we have seen where we have made
these, I think, very significant investments in health care that, yes, are
publicly funded but maybe privately delivered, is our STARS [Shock Trauma Air
Rescue Service] air ambulance service. A private operation, Mr. Chair, publicly
funded, delivering life-saving service to Saskatchewan residents throughout
rural Saskatchewan and the North.
Mr. Chair, I’d mentioned the diagnostics
and lab services but also the surgeries. One in five surgeries in this province
are privately delivered, but they are publicly funded. We see all too often the
members opposite put ideology over health care outcomes, Mr. Chair, and we just
simply aren’t going to do that. That’s why we stand here many times and say
people in this province have a tough time taking the members opposite
seriously, because they would cancel one in five surgeries because they don’t
believe in how that surgery is being delivered. They might cancel STARS because
that’s the same delivery option. Fee-for-service physicians — I would hope they
don’t start pulling fee-for-service physicians out of our communities, Mr.
Chair, but they’re funded in exactly the same way as those surgeries are, as
those two-for-one diagnostics are, Mr. Chair.
And we’re going to continue to think
outside of the box and to use every innovative tool that we have available to
support our health care workers and to ultimately improve the patient
experience and improve patient outcomes in this health care system in the
province. That’s why we brought forward the patients-first initiative — 50
action items in this document, Mr. Chair, that are going to improve outcomes.
They are going to support our health care professionals and they’re going to
ensure that Saskatchewan residents receive the right care at the right time in
the right place.
Chair
B. McLeod: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Chair, I think
I’m probably on to my last question here. And I do want to thank you and those
at the Clerks’ table for their time today, all of those who have joined us, the
officials. This is going to be, as I said, my final question during these estimates.
We have canvassed a number of topics
today, I guess maybe a few fewer than perhaps I had hoped to get to. But don’t
worry. We will continue to ask those questions and hold this government to
account.
We have seen, I think, a stark contrast
on the floor of this Assembly today. Remember that the questions that we have
been bringing forward are those that we’re hearing from people right across
this province, very real concerns about issues that are facing the people of
this province. People can see for themselves what those questions were met with
by that Premier, by extension that government.
But one of those questions that came out
today, I think, will be especially of interest to the people of this province,
the farms, industry. And that is the $26 billion cost to refurbish coal
plants in our province. Now the Premier said he didn’t have a clue. He’s had
another hour to get more clarity on this issue. So I’m going to ask it again.
How can the Premier justify spending
$26 billion to refurbish coal in this province? And why has he been
keeping the real cost of that plan from the people of this province?
Chair
B. McLeod: — I recognize the Premier of
Saskatchewan.
Hon. Scott Moe: — We’re not planning
to follow that slide show that was tabled here earlier, Mr. Chair. What we are
planning to do is to take a very focused approach to address the concerns that
Saskatchewan people have raised with government members, and in fairness with
opposition members have been raised on the floor of this Assembly as well, and
really in four areas. A number of those areas is what I had pointed out in my
opening comments.
But first and foremost what we hear from
Saskatchewan families is they want their community to be safer. They want the
crime to not be happening in their community. And the source of that crime all
too often is the poisonous drugs that we’re seeing coming into our Saskatchewan
communities and our nation and available across North America, around the
world.
That’s why we have a very focused plan
when it comes to providing recovery opportunities — 300 intensive recovery
beds, added to the 500 that we already had in this province, Mr. Chair,
standard recovery beds. This budget — and again the opportunity is the
opposition’s to support the appropriation in the next few days — that will add
200 additional beds, achieving this government’s commitment of 500 intensive
recovery beds for Saskatchewan residents. And yes, if we need to go above that,
we’re prepared to make that investment in subsequent months and years.
Mr. Chair, we’re also looking very
closely at how we access those recovery beds, how people that are maybe ready
to make a change, unfortunately might be living a life with addictions but have
made the decision that they want to make a change. We want to build that
capacity, build those access points. That’s why in that urgent care centre here
in Regina there is an access point for mental health, addictions support to
ensure that individuals, when they are ready, that they will have the
opportunity to access a recovery bed in this province.
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That’s why we have the complex-needs
facilities to ensure that those that are having the most troubled times and
having interactions with our enforcement agencies, Mr. Chair, that they have
the opportunity to access those addictions services, those recovery services
that we have in this province.
And, Mr. Chair, alongside this we have
made significant investments in this budget to ensure that we have increased
enforcement, front-line enforcement folks in our communities keeping our
families safe: a hundred municipal officers, on our way to 70 marshal officers
in this province, and 180 additional RCMP officers, Mr. Chair. And we are
working together with those enforcement agencies to ensure that they are
supporting one another and in turn supporting safer communities across the
province of Saskatchewan.
We talked much about health care here
today — and will every day I’m sure as it is a priority for Saskatchewan
residents, Saskatchewan families — and that patients-first health care
initiative that has been put forward by this province, again funded in this
budget, funded in this budget, Mr. Chair.
And again I invite the members opposite
to think carefully about supporting that appropriation that funds those
improved access points, those improved health care outcomes, supporting our
health care professionals across this province. And that they think twice
before they vote against that funding that is going to support the very health
care professionals that are providing health care services from corner to
corner in this province through that patients-first initiative. It’s going to
ensure that we offer the right care at the right time in the right place.
Mr. Chair, much talk about
affordability, literally the first question or two every question period, and
there was questions here today. And I would just say again, Saskatchewan
remains the most affordable place in Canada to live and will continue to be the
most affordable place in Canada to live in the future because of actions taken
by this Minister of Finance, our Deputy Premier, in this most recent budget.
Again, ask the members opposite to consider voting for that appropriation,
right a wrong in my opinion, Mr. Chair, when they voted against the budget that
is supporting Saskatchewan families on so many fronts.
Last but not least, and I don’t know
that we’re going to come to a point of agreement here, Mr. Chair, on attracting
investment, attracting that investment to create and expand the industries that
are creating wealth and jobs for Saskatchewan families. I had read a number of
those investments into the record. That comes about by ensuring you are making
policy decisions that are attracting and enabling those investments to come
through the exploration stage in the mining sector for example, get through the
pre-development stage and ultimately have a chance, have the surety that they
come into production.
And that’s what we see in Saskatchewan
with the mine sites that are being built and the uranium industry, the copper
industry, the potash mining industry, the investments in the oil and gas, the
helium, the lithium, the hydrogen, now data centres. Why you’re seeing that
kind of investment here is because it is a competitive environment, Mr. Chair,
but it also provides certainty. In what is an entirely uncertain world, Mr.
Chair, today we are providing certainty in this very province, even more
certainty than you can see across the nation of Canada for that investment to
flow.
And that’s why we have over 60 projects,
Mr. Chair. And I lost track at 60, but it’s over 60 projects with over
$62 billion of investment that is going to create jobs and opportunity for
the future.
So I ask the members opposite, and I ask
everyone that might be watching here today or in attendance: is there anywhere
else in the world that you would rather live than this province right here, Mr.
Chair?
We have challenges, Mr. Chair. But you
have a government that is dedicated to addressing those challenges, working
with Saskatchewan people to find solutions, Mr. Chair, and to make this
province better each and every day as we move forward.
Is there any other place in the world
that you would want to live, that you would want to work, that you would want
to raise your children and raise your grandchildren than right here in the
great province of Saskatchewan within the great nation of Canada, Mr. Speaker?
Chair
B. McLeod: — Thank you very much for your
attention and your involvement here today. It’s an honour to serve as committee
Chair for the Committee of the Whole. And so thank you for your attention
today.
So the debate is concluded. And I’m
going to ask the officials that are with us now to leave. And the committee
will begin voting on the estimates. And we’ll just take a few moments for
everyone to get their seats again. Thank you so much.
Thank you very much. I’ll call the
committee to order again, please.
So we have a number of estimates to vote
off tonight, and we’re going to start and work our way through.
Is subvote (EX01), central management
and services in the amount of $6,285,000 agreed?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Chair
B. McLeod: — Carried. Is subvote (EX03)
communications office in the amount of $1,158,000 agreed?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Chair
B. McLeod: — Carried. Is subvote (EX04), cabinet
planning in the amount of $697,000 agreed?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Chair
B. McLeod: — Carried. Is subvote (EX05), cabinet
secretariat in the amount of $541,000 agreed?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Chair
B. McLeod: — Carried. Subvote (EX06), members of
the Executive Council in the amount of $158,000. This is a statutory amount. No
vote is required.
Is subvote (EX07), Premier’s office in
the amount of $534,000 agreed?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Chair
B. McLeod: — Carried. Is subvote (EX08), House
business and research in the amount of $273,000 agreed?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Chair
B. McLeod: — Carried. Is subvote (EX10),
intergovernmental affairs in the amount of $2,929,000 agreed?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Chair
B. McLeod: — Carried. Is subvote (EX12),
Lieutenant Governor’s office in the amount of $753,000 agreed?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Chair
B. McLeod: — Carried.
Resolved that there
be granted to His Majesty for the 12 months ending March 31st, 2027, the
following sums for Executive Council: $13,170,000.
Is that agreed?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Chair
B. McLeod: — Carried. The motion is carried.
There being no further business before the committee, I would invite a member
to move that the committee rise and ask for leave to sit again. I recognize the
Government House Leader.
Hon. Tim
McLeod: —
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I move that the committee rise, report progress, and ask
for leave to sit again.
Chair
B. McLeod: — It has been moved by the Government
House Leader that the committee rise, report progress, and ask for leave to sit
again. Is that agreed?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Chair
B. McLeod: — Carried.
[The Speaker resumed the Chair.]
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Chair of Committees.
Blaine McLeod: — Mr. Speaker, I am instructed by the
committee to report progress and ask for leave to sit again.
Speaker
Goudy: — When shall this committee sit again?
I recognize the Government House Leader.
Hon. Tim
McLeod: —
Next sitting of the House, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — Next sitting. It now being past the
ordinary time of adjournment, this House stands adjourned until tomorrow at 10
a.m.
[The Assembly adjourned at 18:11.]
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