CONTENTS
Moose
Jaw Film Festival Showcases Saskatchewan Talent
Partnership of Parliaments Trip to Europe
Hudson
Bay Hosts Provincial Snowmobile Festival
Honouring
Ukrainian War Casualties
Farm’s
50th Production Sale Raises Funds for STARS
Opposition
Statements Regarding Proposed Legislation
SaskPower
and Auto Insurance Rates
Community
Supports and Library Worker Safety
Out-of-Province
Travel for Medical Treatment
Funding
for Saskatchewan Polytechnic
Saskatchewan
Assured Income for Disability Program
Saskatchewan
Human Rights Commission Severance Payments
National
Energy Corridor Agreement
Bill No. 612 — The Lower Power
Bills and Car Insurance Act

SECOND
SESSION — THIRTIETH LEGISLATURE
of
the
Legislative Assembly of
Saskatchewan
DEBATES
AND PROCEEDINGS
(HANSARD)
N.S.
Vol. 67 No. 28A
Wednesday, March 4, 2026, 13:30
[Prayers]
Speaker Goudy:
— I recognize the Minister of Social Services.
Hon.
Terry Jenson: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you this afternoon and joining us on
the floor of the legislature is the chief executive officer of Inclusion
Saskatchewan, Christina Martens-Funk, who also happens to be a constituent of
mine. So welcome to your Assembly, Christina.
Along with Christina, we also
have Bluesette Campbell. She’s the board Chair. And we’d like to thank the
board of directors and all the staff for all the work that they do to make this
province a more inclusive place for people with intellectual disabilities and
neurodiversity, Mr. Speaker.
Inclusion Saskatchewan is
celebrating 70 years this year and working on advocacy on behalf of persons
with intellectual disabilities. Later on this afternoon, Mr. Speaker, we’re
going to be hosting a reception in room 218, and I encourage all members to join
us at that reception to learn more about what Inclusion Saskatchewan is doing
for the people of our province.
So with that, Mr. Speaker,
I’d like to invite all members of the Assembly to welcome Christina and
Bluesette to this, their Saskatchewan legislature.
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the member from Saskatoon
Southeast.
Brittney
Senger: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to join the Minister of Social Services in
welcoming Christina and Bluesette to their Legislative Assembly. Inclusion
Saskatchewan truly is a phenomenal organization. They really spearhead the
“nothing about us without us” when developing their policies.
I have had the opportunity to
work with Christina on a number of different projects. She’s always very
insightful. The whole team at Inclusion Saskatchewan is always able to provide
good insight and assist us as we work towards a more inclusive Saskatchewan.
I’d like to ask all members
to join me in welcoming Inclusion Saskatchewan, Christina, and Bluesette to
their Legislative Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the Minister of CIC [Crown
Investments Corporation of Saskatchewan].
Hon.
Jeremy Harrison: —
Well thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. It’s very rare that I actually get to
introduce a guest from my constituency in northwest Saskatchewan, but today is
one of those days. And I want to welcome Bluesette Campbell to her Legislative
Assembly. I’ve been able to introduce Bluesette once before, I think a number
of years ago. But Bluesette is a long-time advocate with Inclusion
Saskatchewan, now the board Chair with Inclusion.
Bluesette and her husband,
Mark, ranch just south of Dorintosh, Saskatchewan.
And Bluesette’s been a friend of mine for a very long time. So I actually had
the honour of nominating Bluesette for the Queen’s Jubilee Medal a number of
years ago, which was a very well-deserved honour, I can tell you, Mr. Speaker,
as well.
So
with that I would ask all members to join me in welcoming Bluesette to her
Legislative Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the member from Regina
Northeast.
Jacqueline
Roy: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you, I would like to introduce today
51 students from Henry Braun elementary school in grades 4 and 5 — if we can
all wave to them. They are accompanied by their teachers Jennifer Leach and Joe
Filson, Mr. Speaker.
It is not the first time
these teachers have reached out to come to see this Assembly, and they do a
wonderful job educating students about parliamentary democracy. They are being
accompanied today by parent chaperones Josie Hansen and Cassie Horvath.
And yes, Mr. Speaker, I know
I need to compete with the MLA [Member of the Legislative Assembly] from
Lumsden-Morse, so I do have ice cream sandwiches here today.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the member
from Regina Pasqua.
Bhajan
Brar: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise here today to present a petition to
the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan to implement rent control now.
We, the undersigned residents
of the province of Saskatchewan, wish to bring to your attention the following:
that Saskatchewan tenants are currently experiencing the highest level of rent
increase in the country; that rent in Saskatchewan has risen by 4 per cent in
the last year alone, far outpacing wage growth and putting more pressure on
families, seniors, students, and low-income residents; that without rent
control landlords can implement unchecked rent hikes, making housing
increasingly unaffordable and unstable; that with rent control, residents can
budget more effectively, potentially putting them in a position to save for a
down payment on their first home; that provinces such as British Columbia,
Manitoba, Ontario, and Prince Edward Island have already implemented rent
control measures to protect tenants and maintain housing affordability.
We, in
the prayer that reads as follows, respectfully request the Legislative Assembly
of Saskatchewan call on the Government of Saskatchewan to adopt fair and
effective rent control legislation that limits annual rent increases, ensures
housing stability, and protects tenants from being priced out of their homes.
This petition has been signed
by residents of Regina. I do so present. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the member from Saskatoon
Stonebridge.
Darcy
Warrington: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s an honour to rise to present a petition on behalf
of Tammy O’Brien, a constituent of mine in Stonebridge. She’s recovering from a
brain tumour operation in Edmonton. She’s brought 319 signatures. I rise today
to present our petition calling for financial support for travel expenses for
medically necessary treatments not available in Saskatchewan.
The undersigned residents of
the province of Saskatchewan wish to bring to your attention the following.
Many Saskatchewan residents requiring specialized care unavailable locally must
pay substantial travel-related costs out of pocket, creating a financial
barrier to essential medical treatment. This undermines equitable access to
health care and places undue hardship on patients seeking medically necessary
services outside the province.
I’ll read the prayer:
We, in
the prayer that reads as follows, respectfully request the Legislative Assembly
of Saskatchewan to amend provincial health care policy so that the Government
of Saskatchewan provides financial support for reasonable travel-related
expenses including travel, accommodation, and meals incurred by Saskatchewan
residents who must leave the province to obtain medically necessary treatments
not available within Saskatchewan.
Mr. Speaker, this petition
has been signed by citizens from Lloydminster, Clavet, and Saskatoon. I do so
present.
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the member from Saskatoon
University-Sutherland.
Tajinder
Grewal: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise to present a petition calling for real action on
climate change.
The undersigned residents of
the province of Saskatchewan wish to bring to your attention the following:
that Saskatchewan, like other jurisdictions, continues to experience the
challenges brought on by climate change, severe forest and grassland fires, increased
flooding, and drought; the costs of increased climate change continue to grow
through increased crop insurance and provincial disaster assistance programs
payments; that Saskatchewan has the second-highest per capita greenhouse gas
emissions in Canada.
With that, Mr. Speaker, I
will say the prayer that reads as follows:
Respectfully
request that the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan call on the Government of
Saskatchewan to take real action on climate change.
The petition has been signed
by residents of Saskatoon. I do so present. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the member from Saskatoon
Southeast.
Brittney
Senger: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise to present a petition calling for adequate and
equitable SAID [Saskatchewan assured income for disability] rates.
The undersigned residents of
the province of Saskatchewan wish to bring to your attention the following:
that current SAID rates mean that individuals who rely on the program live in
what is referred to as deep poverty, defined as less than 75 per cent of the
poverty line; that after the implementation of the program in 2012, it took
over seven years for an increase to be made; that the increases are
insufficient and have led to an overall 20 per cent decrease in benefits when
adjusted for inflation.
We, in
the prayer that reads as follows, respectfully request the Legislative Assembly
of Saskatchewan call on the Government of Saskatchewan to immediately increase
the SAID rates to account for inflation and the cost of living; that the
government respect the constitutional rights of persons with disabilities in
Saskatchewan by halting discriminatory practices and align policies with the
Charter of Rights and Freedoms; that index the SAID basic amount to inflation
going forward and provide targeted relief to those in deepest poverty, such as
single individuals paying market rent.
The undersigned residents
reside in Regina. I do so present.
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the member from Saskatoon
Fairview.
Vicki
Mowat: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise once again to present a petition to the
Government of Saskatchewan to open up Saskatchewan Housing Corporation units
for occupancy. There are four times as many homeless people in Saskatoon than
there were three years ago at nearly 2,000 people — their population the size
of Watrous, Mr. Speaker.
We need to open up vacant
units, restore direct payments to landlords for those who are on SIS
[Saskatchewan income support], and provide mental health and addictions
supports, not have people waiting 46 weeks for treatment.
I’ll read the prayer:
We, in
the prayer that reads as follows, respectfully request that the Legislative
Assembly of Saskatchewan call on the Government of Saskatchewan to immediately
renovate all SHC units that require renovation, make
units available and affordable, and ensure that all currently vacant SHC units are made occupied.
This is signed by individuals today from
Saskatoon Fairview, Mr. Speaker. I do so present.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the member from Regina Douglas
Park.
Nicole Sarauer: — Mr. Speaker, I seek leave
to introduce guests.
Speaker
Goudy:
— Member has requested leave to introduce guests. Is leave granted?
Some
Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
Nicole
Sarauer: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Now
that they’re here, I’m very happy to introduce them. Seated behind me in the
west gallery, Mr. Speaker, are 25 grade 5 students from Douglas Park School.
They are accompanied today by their teacher, Devon Floyd. Always good to see
him.
We do hope that they’ve had
an enjoyable experience in the legislature so far, and I’m very much looking
forward to having them ask me some hard-hitting questions after question
period. I ask all members to join me in welcoming them to their Legislative
Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy:
— I recognize the member from Regina Coronation Park.
Noor
Burki: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’m
so proud to rise to recognize the holy month of Ramadan. It’s a time of great
importance in Muslim faith worldwide.
During Ramadan, Muslims
around the world fast from sunrise to sunset to honour God, to practise
self-discipline, and to reflect on many blessings we have in our lives, such as
food, water, and shelter — blessings others around us may not. Blessings we should
be grateful for. Ramadan reminds us of important values like generosity,
kindness, unity, and respecting others. It is a chance for all of us to come
together, no matter where we come from.
Mr. Speaker, I’m honoured to
represent such a strong, compassionate, and generous community. And I thank all
the Muslim community for all the work they do to make Saskatchewan a vibrant
and welcoming place.
I would like to extend my
blessing and sincere wishes of health and happiness to all those who celebrate
this holy month. I invite all members to join me in recognizing this holy month
of Ramadan. Ramadan Mubarak. Ramadan Kareem.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the member from Moose Jaw Wakamow.
Megan
Patterson: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Last
Saturday night I was honoured to bring greetings on behalf of our government at
the first annual Moose Jaw Film Festival. The Mae Wilson Theatre was filled
with incredible talent from across our province. There were over 100
submissions across 20 different categories, truly showcasing the depth of
creativity and skill we have in Saskatchewan.
[13:45]
Mr. Speaker, film productions
create jobs and attract spending to our communities. They hire local crews,
book hotel rooms, buy local supplies, and help build the skilled workforce that
we need.
I would like to thank
Creative Saskatchewan, the official film commission in our province. Their
advocacy, mentorship, funding, and expertise keeps this sector at the
forefront. It also fosters the culture of talent and creativity we have in the
province.
I also want to thank the
organizers, volunteers, and everyone who was a part of this incredible evening.
I’m already looking forward to the second annual Moose Jaw Film Festival, and I
hope to see you there. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the member from Saskatoon
Fairview.
Vicki
Mowat: — On behalf of the official
opposition, I was honoured to join the Partnership of Parliaments trip to
Germany, Austria, and Czechia this September, alongside the Speaker and the MLA
for Dakota-Arm River. It was an incredible opportunity to learn about European
parliamentary systems, strengthen Saskatchewan’s international partnerships,
and discuss global issues with legislators and officials abroad.
In Berlin we met with
representatives from Canada’s embassy, the German mechanical engineering and
agricultural sectors, and the Saskatchewan Germany office, focusing on shared
challenges in trade, security, and energy.
In Austria we engaged with
members of the Lower Austrian Landtag, toured energy and agricultural sites,
and learned about sustainability models that can inform our work here at home.
In Munich and Prague we
explored the political and economic realities shaping Bavaria and Czechia while
celebrating existing academic ties between the University of Saskatchewan and
the Czech University of Life Sciences.
Across all meetings three
themes stood out: the importance of defending democracy, confronting
geopolitical instability, and building resilient economies. I’m grateful for
the warm hospitality we received, and I look forward to welcoming European
legislators to Saskatchewan in the future to continue the exchange of ideas and
co-operation. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the member from Carrot River
Valley.
Terri
Bromm: — Mr. Speaker, last weekend I
— along with the member from Last Mountain-Touchwood; former member from Carrot
River Valley, Fred Bradshaw; and accompanying family and friends — participated
in the 2026 Saskatchewan Snowmobile Festival in Hudson Bay. A pancake breakfast
on Saturday kick-started the day, followed by the ride and ended with an awards
banquet and dance where we were joined by the Minister of Parks, Culture and
Sport.
It was an enjoyable and
chilly day on the beautiful trails of Hudson Bay and area. Approximately 250
riders from around the province gathered for the annual weekend. Snow
conditions were great with an above-average snowfall. Prizes were awarded for
the oldest and youngest riders, with a prize for the most family members riding
going to the member from Last Mountain-Touchwood.
The provincial rally has an
important economic impact on the host community, ranging from benefits to
restaurants, convenience stores, lodgings, and others. Hudson Bay was a great
host for visitors from all across the province. Mr. Speaker, the Hudson Bay
Trail Riders maintain approximately 700 kilometres of groomed trails and 11
warm-up shelters. The work to maintain these services is done by volunteers,
and to them I wish to say congratulations on a job well done.
And I would ask all members
to join me in congratulating these volunteers and the community of Hudson Bay
and the Saskatchewan Snowmobile Association on yet another successful rally.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the member from Saskatoon
Churchill-Wildwood.
Keith
Jorgenson: — Thank you very much, Mr.
Speaker. Sixty seconds. I want to talk about what 60 seconds means to me, Mr.
Speaker. You know, most of my life I’ve stood to honour the sacrifice of
Canadians who’ve died for our freedom with a minute of silence.
This last fall I spent nine
days in Ukraine, and there are many things that were striking about my visit
there. But one of them that really sticks with me is 60 seconds at 9 a.m. Every
day at 9 a.m. literally the entire country stops. People leave their houses,
their cars, their workplaces, and they stand in the street to honour the people
that have paid the ultimate price for freedom in Ukraine and in the world, Mr.
Speaker.
To give you a sense of the
scale of the loss of life, I was in the city of Ivano-Frankivsk, which is
slightly smaller than the city of Regina, and there was a two-sided memorial
depicting the photos of the dead that stretched two-thirds of a kilometre long.
That is approximately the distance between here and the Royal Saskatchewan
Museum.
You know, Mr. Speaker, when
we honour our dead we never, ever want their sacrifice to be in vain, Mr.
Speaker. If the world lets Ukraine lose this war, Canada’s security and
prosperity will be in peril. If the world allows Russia’s aggression to
extinguish the light of freedom in Ukraine, then we risk making the sacrifice
of our own dead having been in vain.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the member from Cut
Knife-Turtleford.
James
Thorsteinson: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Every year the first full week of February is affectionately known by livestock
producers in northwest Saskatchewan as Hereford week. Over the course of the
week there is as many as six production sales within a hundred-mile radius, and
cattlemen from across Western Canada converge on the area to bid on some of the
best horned-Hereford bulls and replacement females you will find anywhere.
Some sales have come and gone
over the years, but another producer in the area is always ready to take their
spot in the sale schedule. One family, however, has been there for as long as I
can remember. And this year Misty Valley Farms celebrated their 50th annual
production sale at their farm north of Maidstone.
Their first sale was held in
1977 with Willow Flat Ranch at the Stockade building in Lloydminster. In 1986
they celebrated their 10th sale by holding their first sale at the farm. I was
in attendance at that first sale, and my grandfather purchased a bull there.
And I have been happy to attend most of their sales since.
This year to celebrate their
50th sale, they raised money for STARS [Shock Trauma Air Rescue Service] by
auctioning tickets on a heifer, with every $100 spent earning you one ticket.
Mr. Speaker, they raised an amazing $66,500.
I ask all members of the
Assembly to join me in congratulating Misty Valley Farms and the entire Oddan family on their 50th annual production sale. And I
look forward to attending many more in the future.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the member from
Martensville-Blairmore.
Hon.
Jamie Martens: — Mr. Speaker, once again we
are hearing how unserious the opposition is in addressing crime in
Saskatchewan. Yesterday the member from Saskatoon Churchill-Wildwood made it
known that he does not support Bill No. 47, The Response to Illicit
Drugs Act. He claimed that it is “not the right thing” to address illicit
drugs in our streets.
Allow me to reiterate to the
members opposite what exactly the proposed legislation will do. It will
strengthen accountability for drug traffickers. It will provide access to
appropriate tools to hold those responsible for the harms caused by illicit drug
activity and it will enhance community safety. Does this sound like not the
right thing to do? Because on this side of the House we believe it’s the right
thing to do.
We believe that drug dealers
and traffickers should be held accountable for the damage that they cause to
individuals, families, and communities. We believe Saskatchewan people have the
right to feel safe in their communities.
If the members opposite still
think it’s not the right thing to do, I would question what they think the
right thing to do is. Oh wait, they’ve already told us. The member from
Saskatoon Nutana on April 4th, 2023 stated that
illicit drugs are “necessary to legalize.” This is something that even the NDP
[New Democratic Party] BC [British Columbia] have backed away from and that we
know it is the members opposite that believe.
Mr. Speaker, this is exactly
how we cannot take the NDP seriously. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the Deputy
Leader of the Opposition.
Vicki
Mowat: —
I’ll tell you what’s unserious, Mr. Speaker. Four times this week we’ve asked
the Minister for SaskPower when he and the Premier knew they were going to hike
power rates. When I asked the Premier in December if power rates were going up,
he said nothing like that was being considered. Now families, farms, small
businesses are due to pay $136 million more just to keep the lights on.
When did the Premier know
that power rates were going up? If there’s nothing to see here, tell us the
date.
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the Minister of CIC.
Hon.
Jeremy Harrison: —
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. And today there was a very, very exciting
announcement that was made by my colleague and my friend Stephen Lecce in
Ontario on the national energy corridor, Mr. Speaker. This was something that I
alluded to yesterday in question period — very excited about it — and today we
made this announcement.
Saskatchewan has been very
deeply involved in this. And this is going to really be a new national approach
to transmission infrastructure here in Canada that’s going to have tremendous
benefits for us here in Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker, and which we have been at
the very ground floor in working with our provincial and territorial
counterparts, Mr. Speaker.
Look
forward to talking about that maybe a bit more during a ministerial statement
later today, but this is a really significant announcement for the country and
Saskatchewan people. And SaskPower have been proud to be involved in the way
that we were.
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the Deputy Leader of the
Opposition.
Vicki
Mowat: —
Another day and no answer from that minister, Mr. Speaker. The message that
this government is sending is crystal clear: they’re above being accountable to
the people that pay for their mistakes.
Saskatchewan people are
already at a breaking point, and now rate hikes at SaskPower and SGI
[Saskatchewan Government Insurance] are going to make life more expensive.
Later today we’ll be introducing a bill to lower power rates and car insurance.
Will the Sask Party government get on board and help
lower costs for Saskatchewan people?
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the Minister of CIC.
Hon.
Jeremy Harrison: —
Well thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. And I addressed some of the SGI
questions yesterday, and I’m going to redo that again today, Mr. Speaker. The
reality is that SGI has the lowest average personal auto insurance rates in the
entire country, Mr. Speaker. In fact if you were in Alberta, you would be
paying probably three times more for your auto insurance than you are here in
Saskatchewan.
The other reality, Mr.
Speaker, with regard to the Auto Fund. This is a not-for-profit fund, Mr.
Speaker, that is responsible for paying claims that come in from insured
clients. We are going to make sure that that Auto Fund is appropriately funded,
Mr. Speaker. And the reality is as well that the cost per repair of vehicle has
gone up precipitously, which was pointed out today I would say as well by the
insurance brokers, Mr. Speaker, in support of the change that SGI has in front
of the rate review panel right now.
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the Deputy Opposition Leader.
Vicki
Mowat: —
Mr. Speaker, people continue to pay for this government’s mistakes and their
failed leadership. Yesterday I stood on behalf of workers at libraries in
Saskatchewan who are being subjected to constant harassment, violence, and
threats. One worker was nearly abducted. Another witnessed a machete attack.
They work in a library, Mr. Speaker. They shouldn’t have to face these issues
alone. They deserve a government that has their backs.
When grilled about these
serious issues yesterday, why did the minister shrug and tell these workers to
simply call the police?
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the Minister of Social Services.
Hon.
Terry Jenson: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And this is just yet another example of why nobody
takes the members of the opposition seriously, Mr. Speaker. Our government
works to find solutions while members opposite just want to stoke fear. Our
government, Mr. Speaker, takes all . . .
Speaker
Goudy: — I’m going to mention that
you can’t give intentions of the opposition to say that they’re wanting to
stoke fear. And you know, you could say they’re stoking fear, other things. But
to say the intention of that’s . . . So please, continue on.
Hon.
Terry Jenson: —
Mr. Speaker, our government takes all matters of public and workplace safety of
the utmost importance. This is why our government has made significant
investments into street outreach programs, funding additional police officers,
alternative response officers, and complex-needs facilities.
Mr. Speaker, we’ve made
significant investments to improve outcomes for people who are experiencing
homelessness, committing more than $118 million in homelessness services
across government. And as my colleague has stated numerous times, we’re working
on 500 more treatment spaces across the province.
As I said yesterday in the
media scrum, Mr. Speaker, violence in the workplace is completely, completely
unacceptable, no matter the workplace. I’d ask the members opposite to focus on
solutions and not merely complain about this.
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the Deputy Leader of the
Opposition.
Vicki
Mowat: —
Mr. Speaker, earlier today I told the minister that he would benefit greatly
from spending a day working in the downtown Saskatoon library. Then perhaps he
would understand the threats they face while on the job.
I gave him the heads-up, and
I’ll ask him the question that I promised now: will the minister work in the
Frances Morrison Library in downtown Saskatoon for a day, yes or no?
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the Minister of Mental Health and
Addictions.
Hon.
Lori Carr: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I know that my colleague would be more
than happy to do that, and he has confirmed with me that he would.
[14:00]
Mr. Speaker, the reason I’m
standing is because this issue actually crosses many ministries, and yes,
employees should feel safe in their place of employment. And I would say if
individuals present a danger, that the appropriate authorities should be contacted,
Mr. Speaker.
Our government ensures that
supports are in place by providing significant funding to mental health experts
— organizations in Saskatoon, Mr. Speaker, such as the Saskatoon Crisis
Intervention Services, Family Service Saskatchewan, Salvation Army.
But, Mr. Speaker, our
government has established police and crisis teams, and the police officers are
actually paired with a mental health professional to better serve those
experiencing a mental health crisis and divert them from locations that they
are at — such as libraries — and help them get the supports that they need.
And these are the type of
resources that this government is funding to get those individuals the help
they need in an appropriate setting, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the member from Saskatoon
Churchill-Wildwood.
Keith
Jorgenson: —
And as we continue to say again and again, that plan is not working.
Today, Mr. Speaker, seated in
your gallery is Tammy O’Brien. Tammy was diagnosed with a brain tumour. Her
doctor recommended gamma knife radiation therapy, which is not available in
Saskatchewan. When finding out that she would have to travel to Edmonton for a
life-saving procedure, Tammy contacted the Ministry of Health’s office seeking
support. And I quote, she said, “I told them I was on disability on a fixed
income and this would create a hardship.” And they gave her a list of charities
that she could access.
Is this the best care that
Saskatchewan can offer its patients?
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the Minister of Mental Health
and Addictions.
Hon.
Lori Carr: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I welcome Tammy O’Brien to her Legislative
Assembly. Tammy, if you would like, when we are done session today, I’d be more
than happy to sit down with you.
But,
Mr. Speaker, it is my understanding and I do know that the cost of the
patient’s treatment was fully funded by our government. Saskatchewan patients
receive coverage for most medical services performed out of province by a
physician or in a publicly funded facility when they are referred, Mr. Speaker.
Accommodations,
travel, and meal costs associated with accessing care are not insured services
and are not covered or reimbursed, with the exception of targeted programs for pediatric patients and out-of-province breast biopsies, Mr.
Speaker.
And
actually, aside from those one-offs I just talked about, it is my understanding
that this is the same policy that was in effect when the NDP had the
opportunity to serve. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the member from Saskatoon
Churchill-Wildwood.
Keith
Jorgenson: —
Mr. Speaker, this makes no sense. The government opposite funds cancer
diagnosis treatment, for travel associated with that, but not treatment for
cancer. Mr. Speaker, no help, none, for people like Tammy. This government is
nickel-and-diming patients and families everywhere. Now in addition, they’re
demanding that they fundraise for their own life-saving care. She was told that
she should start a GoFundMe page.
How does the minister
opposite justify this awful treatment?
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the Minister of Remote and Rural
Health.
Hon.
Lori Carr: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it is my understanding that Tammy was
informed, as the member opposite mentioned, about financial assistance that is
available for travel costs that all individuals are made aware of because those
are not insured services, Mr. Speaker.
We have Hope Air which
provides free flights, accommodations, airport transfers, and meal vouchers for
families and individuals who must travel for medical care. There’s also Kinsmen
Foundation and TeleMiracle which provides travel assistance for residents in
need of vital medical treatment outside of their home community, Mr. Speaker.
So these are the type of
options that are available for individuals who can’t afford to pay for their
travel costs, Mr. Speaker, and we did make Ms. O’Brien aware of those. Thank
you.
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the member from Saskatoon
Churchill-Wildwood.
Keith
Jorgenson: —
Mr. Speaker, this minister is doing nothing, nothing to help those in need in
the health care system. Let’s look at their record on patient care. Charging
cancer patients to park while they’re getting chemotherapy, and then lining up
patients in our ERs [emergency room], treating them
in hallways, and now sending people who need life-saving care — not voluntary
care, life-saving care — out of province and then making them foot the bill.
This is unacceptable.
Will the minister apologize
and pay Tammy the $852.72 that she’s out of pocket?
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the Minister of Remote and Rural
Health.
Hon.
Lori Carr: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the province of Saskatchewan and this
government are doing . . . We have a plan . . .
[Interjections]
Speaker
Goudy: — Fairly . . .
People care in this . . . This is important. Minister.
Hon.
Lori Carr: —
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thank you for bringing that back for me,
Mr. Speaker. This is important, and that is why after session I will be meeting
with Ms. O’Brien if she wishes. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the member from Saskatoon
University-Sutherland.
Tajinder
Grewal: —
Mr. Speaker, yesterday I stood in the House and asked the minister to confirm
there would be no more layoffs at Sask Polytechnic.
He refused to do so. Within six hours, CTV and CBC News broke the story: there
was more layoffs at Sask Poly.
The minister knew they were
coming when he stood yesterday, and he said nothing. Will the minister commit
today to no more layoffs at Sask Poly? Or will he
keep quiet on even more job losses?
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the Minister of Advanced
Education.
Hon.
Ken Cheveldayoff: —
Thanks very much, Mr. Speaker. You know, happy to talk about Sask Poly at any time on the floor of the legislature. A
fine institution. A world-class institution. A well-funded institution that,
you know, operates at arm’s length from the government, has a professional
president and senior executive, Dr. Larry Rosia, who runs the facility very,
very well.
You know, it’s not perfect by
any means, and we’re in a situation started by the federal government that
every institution in Canada is certainly facing some challenges.
And I would say the
challenges that we are facing here in Saskatchewan are being addressed the best
that they can. There are some layoffs. Again it’s not, you know, just totally
perfect.
But again yesterday I had
provided an example from the province of Manitoba. Today I can provide an
example from the NDP province . . .
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the member from Saskatoon
University-Sutherland.
Tajinder
Grewal: —
Mr. Speaker, that minister will not take responsibility for his own actions. He
tries to claim that the layoffs are only due to the federal government’s cap on
international students. Our post-secondary institutions should not be dependent
on the international students for their revenue in the first place.
Our post-secondary sector
must be funded properly by the provincial government, but the Sask Party government has underfunded the post-secondary
sector for years. These are the Sask Party government
cuts.
When will the minister take
responsibility?
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the Minister of Advanced
Education.
Hon.
Ken Cheveldayoff: —
Mr. Speaker, make no mistake about it. We are very proud of the funding that we
provide to our institutions: Sask Poly, U of R
[University of Regina], U of S [University of Saskatchewan], regional
colleges — amongst the best in the country, bar none.
We had an earlier multi-year
funding agreement that we are very proud of, and most recently in November we
entered into another one — a four-year agreement with a three-year lift per
year. Mr. Speaker, that compares very well to NDP British Columbia, which for
the last two decades, the province’s share of funding has declined by 41 per
cent. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the member from Saskatoon
University-Sutherland.
Tajinder
Grewal: —
Mr. Speaker, one of the programs that’s being closed entirely is the health
information management program. This is a health care field where we have a
shortage of workers, and where we need trained people to work in Saskatchewan
health care.
And now Saskatchewan students
will have to study out of province. It was forcing our young people to leave
Saskatchewan. And the Saskatchewan Health Authority and many other employers
will have a very difficult time attracting workers from out of province. This
makes no sense.
Does
the minister realize these cuts will have a direct effect on our health care
system?
Speaker Goudy: —
I recognize the
Minister of Advanced Education.
Hon. Ken Cheveldayoff: — Mr. Speaker, you know, we
look at the programming very seriously. But it is operated at arm’s length by Sask Poly. Each and every program, I know the president
likes to say we have a job waiting for every one of our graduates, certainly.
Each of those programs is examined.
Very,
very quickly, again, in British Columbia 177 programs were cancelled. You know,
we can’t guarantee every program. We advise and we consult with Sask Poly and our other institutions to make sure that the
classes are job related, and indeed they are.
Mr.
Speaker, I’ll just remind the House and the member opposite about the NDP’s
record on advanced education. Tuition fees jumped by 38 per cent in their final
five years in government. Mr. Speaker, again, I’m happy to speak about
post-secondary education on the floor and the record funding that they
. . . [inaudible] . . . This government puts students first
each and every day and will continue to do so.
Speaker Goudy: —
I recognize the
member from Saskatoon Southeast.
Brittney Senger: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On a
Friday, without any notice or warning, the Minister of Social Services made
deep cuts to the program that so many people with disabilities rely on. These
cuts will make it harder for people with disabilities to access supports and
live their lives.
During
a cost-of-living crisis, why is the Minister of Social Services making it
harder for some of the most vulnerable people in Saskatchewan?
Speaker Goudy: —
I recognize the
Minister of Social Services.
Hon. Terry Jenson: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And
I would say quite the opposite is the fact here, Mr. Speaker. We’ve made it
easier. We were told by different community-based organizations, by different
SAID recipients themselves, by even some of our ministry staff, that the SAID
program was very complex. It took a lot of time and it required recipients of
benefits to do things like provide receipts, which took them time, and it took
extra time to get paid.
Mr.
Speaker, no current SAID clients are going to see a reduction in benefits when
these changes take effect. I have made that very clear right from the beginning
— not one single SAID recipient is going to see a reduction in benefits. Thank
you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker Goudy: —
I recognize the
member from Saskatoon Southeast.
Brittney Senger: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Of
course the minister has his own spin on it, and yet it’s now become a last
resort to provide essential support. And the minister is referring to current
SAID recipients yet not referring to any new SAID recipients.
So
Peter Gilmer from the Regina Anti-Poverty Ministry warned that these cuts were
“the continuation of extreme deprivation for many people.”
We
know that this government is facing a massive budget deficit due to their
fiscal mismanagement. Why is the Minister of Social Services trying to balance
the budget on the backs of people living with disabilities?
Speaker Goudy: —
I recognize the
Minister of Social Services.
Hon. Terry Jenson: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This
is a government that recognizes the challenges faced by those living with
significant and enduring disabilities. I would point out, Mr. Speaker, it was
this government in 2009 that introduced SAID to this province of Saskatchewan,
Mr. Speaker. Over that time, Mr. Speaker, SAID benefits have increased 65 per
cent. In that same time the consumer price index has increased by 43 per cent,
which means a net increase to SAID recipients of 22 per cent in that time, Mr.
Speaker.
This
is a government that cares deeply about our disability community. We care
deeply about every individual in this province, and we care deeply about
families. Mr. Speaker, when it comes to the SAID program, we will take no
advice from the members opposite on how it runs. We know what we need to do in
the disability community, and we’re going to continue to do that good work.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker Goudy: —
I recognize the
member from Saskatoon Nutana.
Erika Ritchie: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Saskatchewan people are struggling through an affordability crisis, and this
government is dealing with a fiscal crisis of their own making. And it is in
these times that the choices governments make show their true priorities. The
executives of the Saskatchewan Health Authority got a $300,000 pay increase.
The former Sask Party executive director got a
$200,000 government patronage appointment.
[14:15]
And
what did people living with enduring disabilities get? They got cuts to
essential support they need to live their lives. Are these the priorities of
the Minister of Social Services, to make those with disabilities receive less
so that this government’s appointees can be paid more? Or will he show some
real compassion and reverse these cuts today?
Speaker Goudy: —
I recognize the
Minister of Social Services.
Hon. Terry Jenson: — Again, Mr. Speaker, when it
comes to the SAID program, we will take no advice from the members opposite. It
was this government that introduced that program in 2009, and we are providing
benefits that outpace inflation, Mr. Speaker. And there are no cuts, Mr.
Speaker. In 2025‑26 the budget increase to our investment in SAID was
314.5 million, Mr. Speaker. That is for all SAID recipients.
Since
2009 SAID benefits have increased by 65 per cent, Mr. Speaker. The consumer
price index has increased by 43 per cent, which means benefits have outpaced
inflation by 22 per cent. And I hear the member from Regina Walsh Acres wants
to get in on the questions. I invite him to stand up and ask.
Speaker Goudy: —
I recognize the
member from Regina Douglas Park.
Nicole Sarauer: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr.
Speaker, it has come to our attention that the Saskatchewan Human Rights
Commission has spent nearly $750,000 on severance payouts over the past two and
a half years. That is almost a third of their total annual budget spent on
severance alone. That’s nearly $750,000 not used to do things like maybe
protect and uphold human rights for the citizens of Saskatchewan.
Can
the Minister Responsible for the Human Rights Commission please explain why
such a significant amount of public dollars are being spent on severance
payments? What is going on at the Human Rights Commission?
Speaker Goudy: —
I recognize the
Minister of Government Relations.
Hon. Eric Schmalz: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And
as the member opposite would know, that the Sask
Human Rights Commission is an arm’s-length organization from government,
responsible for human resources within their own organization, Mr. Speaker.
That
being an arm’s-length organization, it is funded by government. However they
are capable and willing to make the determinations on how and when employment
occurs in that organization, Mr. Speaker. We are happy to support
. . . We take human rights very seriously in this province, Mr.
Speaker, and we look forward to working with the Human Rights Commission going
forward. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker Goudy: —
I recognize the
member from Regina Douglas Park.
Nicole Sarauer: — Mr. Speaker, I don’t know
about the members opposite, but I do know that the members on this side think
that the expense of taxpayer dollars should be taken seriously. $750,000 is a
lot of money, Mr. Speaker. $750,000 is a lot of money to a lot of people. It
could also do a lot of good in this province. It could help support resources
in our classrooms. It could help support people like Tammy and those like her
who need reimbursements for health care expenses.
Why
under this minister’s watch is $750,000 instead being spent on severance?
Speaker Goudy: —
I recognize the
Minister of Government Relations.
Hon. Eric Schmalz: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And
again, the Sask Human Rights Commission is an
arm’s-length organization from government who has jurisdiction over their own
human resources, Mr. Speaker. We continue to fund that organization to ensure
that the people of Saskatchewan have access to the Human Rights Commission in a
timely fashion and are able to have their cases heard, Mr. Speaker.
We
look forward to working with them continually going forward from today. Thank
you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker Goudy:
— I recognize the Minister of CIC.
Hon.
Jeremy Harrison: —
Well thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. And it really is a pleasure to rise
today to talk about the national energy corridor agreement which I’d referenced
earlier today in question period, really a historic agreement that has been
negotiated and reached amongst all of the provinces and territories in Canada
to address what the future of electricity transmission in this country is going
to look like.
I actually joke with my
senior team at SaskPower that the only people that get really excited about
transmission are probably sitting around that table at SaskPower. But that
being said, this is really very significant, Mr. Speaker.
Transmission, for folks who
are watching, really that is the process by which power is produced at a
generation facility and how that gets to your house or place of business so
that when you turn on the light, the lights go on. That is really what encompasses
transmission, Mr. Speaker.
And you know, this has been a
lengthy negotiation, I can say, as well. I can say as well that with Minister
Lecce, Saskatchewan really has been at the centre of this discussion as two of
the jurisdictions — Ontario in Eastern Canada, Saskatchewan in Western Canada —
that are really in a position to support our neighbours by having allocatable,
dispatchable baseload power, which really uniquely positions us in Western
Canada, and obviously Ontario as a large net power exporter in Eastern Canada.
But we have never really in
this country before had a national approach with provinces and territories
working together and the federal government as a partner in that process, in
putting together a plan for what long-term transmission is going to look like.
Really what we’ve had is a series of provincial grids that have been connected
at points by interties. But even at that, really the way that the grid is set
up is north-south, not east-west.
And well to point out as
well, even with Alberta as an example today, which we had our transmission line
wide open, but that really is a conversion station. The western grid, basically
take Saskatchewan and go all the way south down to Texas — the ERCOT [Electric
Reliability Council of Texas] system is different — but all the way south down
to Texas and west, an entirely different grid than east of that. So even
between us and Alberta, Mr. Speaker, we actually have to convert the power from
AC/DC [alternating current/direct current] back to AC so that it’s on the same
frequency that it can actually be transported between provinces.
Today Alberta, we’ve had that
wide open a hundred and two fifty megawatts, selling power to Alberta at $370 a
megawatt hour, which is profit for the people of this province. And thanks to
the folks at Poplar River who are actually running that facility and being able
to export power into Alberta, Mr. Speaker.
So that is the “what.” The
“why” is because we need to actually have a national plan here, Mr. Speaker.
And we have sat with the federal government on this as well, and I think you’re
going to hear more news coming from the Government of Canada in this space. But
SaskPower has really been a leader, and I want to give our team a lot of credit
at the company for their degree of engagement and really their expertise that
they have brought to this process at the national level with our partners in
Ontario, OPG [Ontario Power Generation] and Bruce
Power, who have been great partners here.
What this means for
Saskatchewan though, in creating the infrastructure to be able to export our
generation around the country — east, west, and to the United States as well,
which we have been doing over the course of a number of cold spells this winter,
Mr. Speaker — really is going to pave the way now, being a net power exporter,
but to be a nuclear power generation powerhouse, which is what our energy
security strategy lays out. And this has really been baked into the energy
security strategy as far as transmission, the announcement that I made last
week on transmission, along with our technology down-select on large-scale
nuclear and our continuing work on small modulars as well.
Saskatchewan is uniquely
positioned, and there are going to be some incredible benefits that are coming
from that unique positioning, Mr. Speaker — which, I would add, the opposition
would completely destroy. We are going to stay focused on our energy security
strategy, Mr. Speaker, in a very serious way. You can’t power a power grid on
pixie dust and good intentions, which is what the other members think across
the way, Mr. Speaker. Physics and reality actually matters, Mr. Speaker. That
is our focus, and I want to thank the good folks at SaskPower.
I want to thank the good
folks at Poplar River, Boundary dam, all of our generation stations across the
province, those who are making sure our transmission has stayed on and reliable
during . . . I’m being heckled on this, Mr. Speaker, if you can
believe that. The members opposite heckling our SaskPower employees doing this
remarkable work. Well, pretty disappointing. Thanks again though to SaskPower,
Mr. Speaker. Great announcement, look forward to the future.
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the member from Regina South
Albert.
Aleana
Young: —
Oh, why thank you. Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. And my sincere thanks to
the minister for providing a copy of those remarks in advance. Very
appreciated.
But seriously, Mr. Speaker,
I’m pleased to hear that resources are being put to policies, regulations, and
framework to ensure that energy and services can flow freely across Canada.
It’s fundamentally important to Saskatchewan and to Canada that we connect
provinces, harmonize standards, build, and do so strategically. And that of
course begins with our technicians and planners, the good folks at SaskPower.
The federal government
funding also announced yesterday will help support Saskatchewan’s transmission
system. And we also need, and will continue to demand on this side of the
House, significant and sustained federal funding for those interprovincial interties.
We heard a lot yesterday and
we heard a lot on the call from other provinces in Canada about the importance
of growing hydro, nuclear, renewables, natural gas. And we continue to look
forward to clearer timelines and sustained updates on bilateral negotiations so
that provinces can move beyond planning to plan.
And though this announcement
is welcome, Mr. Speaker, it will do little in the short term regarding the
generation costs that the Saskatchewan government is planning to incur and the
rate increases that will follow. Farms, small businesses, rural residents, and
industry are concerned and speaking up, and far too many families in
Saskatchewan are already underwater on their bills. Mr. Speaker, affordability
must be the priority.
This announcement today, Mr.
Speaker, is great. We see the provinces talking to each other, which is
progress indeed, but we don’t see that national strategy. We’ll be looking for
it in the federal government’s forthcoming electricity strategy as we’ll be
looking for that significant investment into interprovincial interties and into
Saskatchewan’s electricity sector. Because, Mr. Speaker, if the federal
government truly wants to build a strong economy in Canada, grow energy and job
security for Canadians and for folks here in Saskatchewan, the best bang for
their buck is investing in Saskatchewan’s electricity sector.
From growing our nuclear
opportunity from rock to reactor, building a flexible and responsive grid, and
investing in generation, transmission, and those critical interprovincial
interties, this real investment can ensure energy security for Canada with
Saskatchewan at the heart of that as a power broker for Western Canada. Thank
you.
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the member from Regina South
Albert.
Aleana
Young: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that Bill
612, The Lower Power
Bills and Car Insurance Act be now introduced and read a first time.
Speaker
Goudy: — It has been moved by the
member from Regina South Albert that Bill
No. 612, The
Lower Power Bills and Car Insurance Act be now introduced and read a
first time. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the Government House Leader.
Hon.
Tim McLeod: —
Point of order, Mr. Speaker. A point of order.
Speaker
Goudy: — Point of order.
Hon.
Tim McLeod: —
Mr. Speaker, pursuant to rule 67(1) of the Legislative Assembly of
Saskatchewan:
Any
vote, resolution, address or bill introduced in the Assembly for the appropriation
of any part of the public revenue, or of any tax or impost to any purpose
whatsoever, or to impose any new or additional charge upon the public revenue
or upon the people, or to release or compound any sum of money due to the
Crown, or to grant any property of the Crown, or to authorize any loan or any
charge upon the credit of the Province, shall be recommended to the Assembly by
Message of the Lieutenant Governor before it is considered by the Assembly.
This is commonly known, Mr.
Speaker, as a Royal Recommendation, which is required before a bill can be
considered that authorizes expenditure that impacts the government’s summary
financial statements.
Mr. Speaker, further rule
67(1) of the Assembly is informed by section 54 of the Constitution Act,
1867, which states:
It shall
not be lawful for the House of Commons to adopt or pass any Vote, Resolution,
Address, or Bill for the Appropriation of any Part of the Public Revenue, or of
any Tax or Impost, to any Purpose that has not been first recommended to that
House by Message of the Governor General.
Mr. Speaker, as this bill
does not have a Royal Recommendation and would clearly impact summary financial
statements of the government, I would ask that this bill be ruled out of order
and not be permitted to proceed. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the Opposition House Leader.
Nicole
Sarauer: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I know that my colleague has done ample
work on this piece of legislation. It is our view that there is no Royal
Recommendation needed for this legislation. I’d ask that you review the bill
and the rules and find that this point of order is not well taken.
[14:30]
Speaker
Goudy: — One of the benefits of
having two great House leaders is I find it quite . . . but when
they’re both lawyers and you’re not. So can I ask till tomorrow to sit on this?
Thank you. All right.
So thanks. So tomorrow we
will consider first reading upon review of both of your points of order. Thank
you.
Sorry, one other thing. I
know there were no points of order on the earlier piece, but I was waiting. I
thought there might be some points of order. But I just want to say from
earlier — I didn’t want to stop because I know everybody doesn’t like me stopping
all the time — but it was again talked about, the patronage appointments. No
more of that. We can’t be saying that they’re appointing people, friends, and
. . . That’s accusing of . . . [inaudible] . . . And
on this side, we’ve got to start having the answers connected certainly to the
questions.
And so anyways, those two
things didn’t come up, but I want to make a point of order on those both. So
let’s move on to orders of the day.
[The
Assembly resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon. Warren
Kaeding that Bill No. 24 — The
Saskatchewan Internal Trade Promotion Act be now read a second time.]
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the member
from Regina Wascana Plains.
Brent
Blakley: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On my feet this afternoon to enter debate on Bill
No. 24, The Saskatchewan Internal Trade Promotion Act. As it says,
this bill aims to streamline and eliminate barriers that may exist in trading
goods and services between provinces.
These
are certainly uncertain times when it comes to trade and commerce. It’s more
important than ever for provinces to be able to rely on each other when it
comes to goods and services across our provincial borders. Streamlining
internal trade is important, but we also need to ensure that standards or
certification in other provinces meet the corresponding standards we have here
in Saskatchewan and that service providers are in good standing with their own
regulatory authority.
Prioritizing
Canadian interprovincial trade is certainly a positive step. And I would
suggest the next step is for this government to prioritize Canadian procurement
over US [United States] procurement, which for some reason has been woefully
ignored by this government.
I
know that my colleagues and the shadow minister will certainly continue to
enter debate on this bill. And with that, Mr. Speaker, I move to adjourn debate
on Bill No. 24, The Saskatchewan Internal Trade Promotion Act.
Speaker Goudy: —
The member has moved to adjourn debate. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to
adopt the motion?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker Goudy: —
Carried.
[The
Assembly resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon. Tim
McLeod that Bill No. 31 — The Defamation Act be now read a second time.]
Speaker Goudy: —
I recognize the member from Saskatoon Silverspring.
Hugh Gordon: — Good day, Mr. Speaker. Thank
you. I rise on my feet today to speak to Bill
No. 31, The Defamation Act, 2025.
Mr.
Speaker, you know, this bill seeks to do a number of things in order to
modernize the language and the processes around slander and libel in the
province, such as tidying the laws for legal action for defamatory
publications; changing the language to defamation, you know; highlighting what
a plaintiff has to do in order to engage in an action; what the rights of the
defendant are; streamlining some of the processes with respect to how those are
adjudicated in our courts, trying to streamline them somewhat, for example, by
combining cases for two defendants linked to the same essential question or
issue so they could be dealt with in an efficient and timely fashion.
I
think for the most part, you know, we would agree that this is long overdue.
Defamation — slander, libel — has become all more acute, of course, in today’s
digital age, certainly in social media. I’m sure it’s something all my
colleagues in this Assembly sometimes and unfortunately are all too familiar
with. But water off a duck’s back for us perhaps, but not so much for others
who have legitimate and genuine interests in protecting their reputations and
ensuring that the truth prevails in their cases.
I
will make a note that section 12 and subsequent sections make reference to
publications of “fair and accurate” reports, whether they be from a, you know,
public meeting or public proceedings, or before a court or tribunal, or
peer-reviewed material. I think there’s generally well-accepted recommendations
in that legislation, although it doesn’t exactly define what “fair and accurate
report” means. And of course in this day and age, we all know that “fair and
accurate” can mean many different things to many different people.
So
I guess it remains to be seen. And I’ll be curious to know how that reshaping
of that language, that particular part of the bill, is defined going forward.
Because I think we all have an interest in ensuring we can, you know, get to
the truth of matters and speak truthfully on matters and not be penalized for
that, but yet that in those instances where individuals or organizations have
taken it too far in a malicious intent, that there is a fair and adequate and
efficient process to deal with those situations.
So
with that, Mr. Speaker, I think I’ll keep my comments at that and move to
adjourn debate on Bill 31.
Speaker
Goudy: — The member has moved to adjourn debate. Is it the
pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — Carried.
[The
Assembly resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon. Tim
McLeod that Bill No. 32 — The Defamation Consequential Amendments Act,
2025/Loi de 2025 corrélative de la loi intitulée The Defamation Act
be now read a second time.]
Speaker Goudy: —
I recognize the from Saskatoon Silverspring.
Hugh Gordon: — As many of my colleagues
have already done, I think my comments will be simply of reference to my
earlier comment on Bill 31. At first glance Bill 32 is a simple change of
language from “slander” and “libel” to “defamation,” so that is more clear in
the legislation going forward. And with that I will move to adjourn debate on
Bill 32 as well.
Speaker Goudy: — The member has moved to
adjourn debate. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker Goudy: — Carried.
[The
Assembly resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon. Tim
McLeod that Bill No. 33 — The
Credit Union Amendment Act, 2025
be now read a second time.]
Speaker Goudy: — I recognize the member
from Regina Wascana Plains.
Brent Blakley: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On
my feet here again to enter debate on Bill No. 33, The Credit Union
Amendment Act, 2025. The focus of this bill is to clear up and streamline
the process for terminating credit union memberships, both from the members’
side and from the institution’s side.
Now
if you’re from Saskatchewan, you no doubt have some history and some experience
with credit unions. Credit unions have a deep history in this province,
particularly in small-town and rural Saskatchewan. Most farmers back in the day
used the credit union to secure and invest their hard-earned money. Credit
unions provide jobs throughout the province and are vital contributors to our
community.
Growing
up we just called it “the credit union,” but over the years it’s expanded well
beyond that. As a kid just about every weekend in my summer months were spent
at my grandparents’ house in Bethune. The highlight of the day was going with
my grandparents on errands around town, which consisted of a visit to the post
office, the Co-op grocery store, the coffee shop, and of course the credit
union. My great-grandfather, my grandfather, and my dad were all members of the
Bethune credit union, and credit unions continue to be an integral part of
small-town Saskatchewan.
As
I said at the outset, this bill aims to clarify the process for credit unions
and their members to terminate memberships and give notice of such
terminations. I’m sure our shadow minister will consult with our stakeholders
on whether these measures will actually improve efficiency or not, and we’ll no
doubt enter further debate on this bill. So at this point, Mr. Speaker, I move
to adjourn debate on Bill No. 33, The Credit Union Amendment Act, 2025.
Speaker Goudy: — The member has moved to
adjourn debate. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker Goudy: — Carried.
[The
Assembly resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon.
Colleen Young that Bill No. 35 — The
Mineral Resources Amendment Act, 2025 be now read a second time.]
Speaker Goudy: —
I recognize the member from Saskatoon
Churchill-Wildwood.
Keith Jorgenson: — Thank you so much, Mr.
Speaker. It’s a pleasure to rise to enter debate on Bill No. 35, The Mineral Resources Amendment Act. You know, Saskatchewan has a
resource-based economy. It’s the sort of foundation of our economy, employs
many, many proud Saskatchewan people. And so it is a pleasure to talk about
these important changes that are being proposed to be made.
You
know, I think that we are supportive of this bill in theory. We want to make
sure that mining and resource development, which powers our economy, can happen
in an efficient and timely manner. And you know, there are a number of changes
in here that appear that may help speed that process along and make that more
efficient. You know, we’ll be talking to stakeholders in the industry as well
as First Nations to make sure that this bill meets their needs, and you know,
again continues the process of powering our economy, employing Saskatchewan
people.
You
know, there’s some people within my family that work in the resource industry,
so I certainly appreciate the importance of the resource industry and being
able to make sure that the industry has the legislative and regulatory tools
that it needs to develop our economy. So with that, I would like to move to
adjourn debate on Bill No. 35, The
Mineral Resources Amendment Act, 2025.
Speaker Goudy: — The member has moved to
adjourn debate. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker Goudy: — Carried.
[The
Assembly resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill that Bill No. 36 — The
Change of Name Amendment Act, 2025/Loi modificative de 2025 sur le changement de nom be now read a second time.]
Speaker Goudy: —
I recognize the member from Saskatoon
Churchill-Wildwood.
Keith Jorgenson: —
I’m
getting my steps in, getting up and talking. You know, again pleased to be on
my feet to enter some comments on Bill No. 36, The Change of Name
Amendment Act. You know, as one reads through this it really does, I think,
show how much our province is changing and evolving in terms of, you know, how
we attempt to make sure that people who may have come from different cultures
or have sort of different family structures are able to have their names
recognized by the registry.
You
know, and I’ll maybe tell a quick little personal story. My parents, when they
were naming all of us, they often didn’t get along and so they had this really
silly thing where one person got the legal name and one person got the middle
name. And the middle name was a name that we use day to day. So me and my
brothers all use our middle names in our day-to-day life.
My
legal name is actually Barry and although I never, ever use Barry
. . . You know, so actually in the lead-up to the election, I looked
into the process of changing my name so that it would appear on the ballot as
I’ve always been known by myself and the people that I know. So it’s an
interesting process to go through.
And
I would also say when you look at that even in terms of the safeguards the
system has to build in when someone looks at changing their name to make sure
that somebody who has potentially done something nefarious in their past isn’t
able to sort of shed their past merely by changing their name. So I see that
that is addressed in here as well.
So
again, it’s a pleasure to be on my feet. With that, I would move to adjourn
debate on Bill No. 36, The Change of Name Amendment Act, 2025.
Speaker Goudy: — The member has moved to
adjourn debate. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker Goudy: — Carried.
[14:45]
[The
Assembly resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill
that Bill No. 37 — The Vital
Statistics Amendment Act, 2025/Loi modificative de 2025 sur les services de l’état civil
be now read a second time.]
Speaker Goudy: — I recognize the member
from Saskatoon Chief Mistawasis.
Don McBean: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’m
pleased to be able to rise today to speak to Bill 37, The Vital Statistics
Amendment Act. As has been noted by a number of these bills coming through,
one has to presume there was good reason for these amendments to be made. I’m
sure that lawyers and the people working in these fields have identified some
gaps; they’ve identified some potential misuse of some of the technical work
involved in vital statistics. Lots of good reasons, no doubt.
I
like to have a story for everything, but I’m pretty sure I’ve already told the
story of my three children carrying my family name, McBean. And the fourth
child, by a clerical error by someone at the Hôtel de ville
in Quebec, you know, he gets the hyphenated name. But what I say to him every
now and again when he brings up to it, you know, a rose by any other name still
smells as sweet. So going about the business . . . Although with my
colleague from Churchill-Wildwood, I guess maybe putting your name on a ballot
becomes an issue.
This
said, we will continue to ask for validation and clarification on some of these
through our stakeholders, and I move to adjourn debate on Bill 37, The Vital
Statistics Amendment Act.
Speaker Goudy: — The member has moved to
adjourn debate. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker Goudy: — Carried.
[The
Assembly resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon.
Everett Hindley that Bill No. 38 — The
Building Schools Faster Act be
now read a second time.]
Speaker Goudy: —
I recognize the member from Saskatoon
Churchill-Wildwood.
Keith Jorgenson: — Thank you again, Mr.
Speaker. So it’s a pleasure to rise to enter some comments on The Building
Schools Faster Act. You know, I think one of our concerns continually is
how our students end up being treated through their educational journey. And so
I’ll maybe, you know, as a parent talk about what that’s been like in regards
to the physical structure of the buildings that my kids have gone to.
So
my kids have gone through the francophone system, the CÉF
[Conseil des écoles fransaskoises] system. So my two
oldest graduated from École Providence in Vonda. They frequently played their archrivals, St. Isidore-de-Bellevue just near Wakaw. And my
son presently goes to École canadienne in Saskatoon. And you know, each one of
those schools shows how this government has allowed our existing schools to rot
and fall apart.
You
know, my son’s present school in Saskatoon, École canadienne, it has had a
portion of its ceiling collapse twice, once most recently this year. From my
understanding there were some kids who sort of narrowly missed . . .
Had left the room or hallway right before the portion of the ceiling collapsed.
I
have a video from when I was at St-Isidore de Bellevue school of their daycare
or their pre-kindergarten room — actually had water flowing through the room
along the floor. Like actually had spring runoff that went through the building
on a surface that little kids would then later be crawling around and playing
on because it was for caring for very small children.
And
for École Providence, where my two oldest graduated, you know, the school has
been bursting at the seams for absolutely years. You know, the library was
moved into sort of a hallway because the library was turned into a classroom.
Kids are being taught in hallways. You know, we can do better than this. This
isn’t the way that we prepare our kids for the next generation.
So
it’s great to see we’re talking about building new schools in places where
they’re needed, but we also have to remember there’s many, many, many kids in
this province who are in schools that are not conducive to learning and in some
cases are actually dangerous. We shouldn’t be sending our kids to school
wondering whether or not a portion of the ceiling is going to collapse on their
head while they’re doing their schoolwork.
So
with that, I would move to adjourn debate on Bill 38, the building schools
faster amendment Act.
Speaker
Goudy: — The member has moved to
adjourn debate. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — Carried.
[The
Assembly resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon.
Everett Hindley that Bill No. 39 — The
Building Schools Faster Consequential Amendment Act, 2025/Loi de 2025
corrélative de la loi intitulée
The Building Schools Faster Act be now
read a second time.]
Speaker Goudy: —
I recognize the member from Saskatoon
Churchill-Wildwood.
Keith Jorgenson: — Again, Mr. Speaker, good to
be on my feet to talk about Bill 39, the sister bill to Bill 38. You know, I
would again highlight the government’s need to look at the totality of the
needs of learners in this province in terms of the facilities that they learn
in, both new and old. And with that, I would adjourn debate on Bill 39. Thank
you.
Speaker
Goudy: — The member has moved to
adjourn debate. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — Carried.
[The
Assembly resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon. Daryl
Harrison that Bill No. 40 — The
Animal Protection Amendment Act, 2025 be now read a second time.]
Speaker Goudy: —
I recognize the member from Saskatoon Westview.
April ChiefCalf: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’m
pleased to be on my feet today in the Assembly to enter into debate on Bill
No. 40, The Animal Protection Amendment Act, 2025. Now my
understanding of this bill is that it is intended to address gaps in
enforcement and accountability. It outlines some new roles for animal
protection officers and some new rules I guess regarding euthanasia of animals.
I
want to say that for me this is an important Act because I am an animal lover.
And I admit that I’m a city girl, and so my love of animals started with having
pets in the home. But when I married my husband . . . He’s from the
Blood Reserve. And people don’t know this about the Blood Reserve, but the
people from the Blood Reserve are very skilled ranchers, and cattle ranching
has been a big part of that community for a prolonged period of time now. And
so I’ve learned kind of first-hand how my brother-in-law looks after the
animals on his ranch. And now he’s passed that on to his son, and so that’s
very, very important.
And
then of course I moved to northern Saskatchewan, where people engage in hunting
and trapping, and I developed quite an appreciation for that way of life as
well. And what I learned from all of these perspectives is how important it is
to take care of animals and ensure that they are being treated well.
And
so when I look at this Act, what I would say is that I think on our side we’re
in support of modernizing the Act. Anything that gets us in line with other
jurisdictions and makes sure that animals aren’t in distress for prolonged
periods of time, that we’re taking care of the welfare of animals is a good
thing because they’re a big part of our lives and our economy. And if we don’t
take care of the animals, you know, we’re not taking care of ourselves either.
With
that, I move to adjourn debate on Bill No. 40, The Animal Protection
Amendment Act. Thank you.
Speaker Goudy: — The member has moved to
adjourn debate. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker Goudy: — Carried.
[The Assembly resumed the
adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon. Alana Ross that Bill No. 41 — The Heritage
Recognition (From Many Peoples, Strength) Act/Loi sur la reconnaissance du patrimoine (Nos origines
multiples, notre force) be now read a second time.]
Speaker Goudy: —
I recognize the member from Saskatoon Chief Mistawasis.
Don McBean: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Again good to be on my feet. This is a bill that has caught our attention and
our imagination since being introduced in the fall session, The Heritage Recognition (From Many Peoples,
Strength) Act.
I
have to admit that at first I was a little curious about the impetus for the
introduction of this bill. We had gone through the process of a private
member’s bill from this side brought on by our colleague from Regina Pasqua for
the Sikh Heritage Month and then followed up with this bill.
But
no matter the road that has brought us here, it’s important that we are
identifying and celebrating all of the peoples that make up Saskatchewan to the
degree that we do. I was curious and so I looked a little bit at the motto and
found out that this motto really has only been brought into force in 1968. So
it made me curious, well what was the motto of Saskatchewan before 1968? It
turns out we didn’t really have one.
In
1905 at the induction of Saskatchewan into the Confederation, the first
premier, Walter Scott’s party ran on “Peace, Progress, and Prosperity.” Sounds
similar to something happening even right now. There were celebration banners —
“Northwest Forever,” “The World’s Granary,” “God Save the King” — lots of
things, but we didn’t have that motto. So I think we must applaud whoever
brought that forth in 1968 to identify the very many peoples from very many
parts of the world that make Saskatchewan the wonderful place that it is.
I
thought a little bit more about what it is that that really means, and I kind
of did a reverse engineering on it and remembered a wonderful song by a fellow,
Joseph Naytowhow. Turns out it was co-written with
Cheryl L’hirondelle. A beautiful song that
. . . Joseph actually came to Victoria School and the whole school
learned to sing it in French, English, and Cree. And the song title — I think I
skipped over that — we are “All One People.” And it’s a beautifully inclusive
idea that:
We are all one people,
We all come from one creation way on
high.
We are . . . one nation under
one great sky.
And
as I’m thinking of this, does this go counter to the “from many peoples,
strength”? And I think not. I think it is actually a perfect identification of
that in multiculturalism, in the acceptance of people from all over the world.
The
other thought that occurred to me was, why do we need this? Why do we need to
be celebrating our multiculturalism? And as unfortunate as it is, I’m reminded
and wish to put on the record, you know, in the mid-last millennium, European
colonizers took over the world. Considering that it was terra nullius,
they took over. They created a hegemonic world view that dominated for
centuries. And things like recognizing multiculturalism, things like
recognizing “from one peoples, strength,” things like “we are all one people”
is a pushback to that colonization and that hegemony that we know best.
So
with that, I applaud the creation of this bill, I think that it’s important for
us to be recognizing these things, and I move to adjourn debate on Bill 41,
heritage recognition, “from many peoples, strength.”
Speaker Goudy: — The member has moved to
adjourn debate. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker Goudy: — Carried.
[The
Assembly resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon. Eric
Schmalz that Bill No. 43 — The
Municipalities Modernization and Red Tape Reduction Act be now read a second time.]
Speaker Goudy: —
I recognize the member from Saskatoon Westview.
April ChiefCalf: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’m
pleased to rise again in the Assembly today and this time to debate Bill
No. 43, The Municipalities Modernization and Red Tape Reduction Act.
And I must say that this bill . . . the title of it is lengthy,
reflecting the length and density of the bill itself. So I hope I can do some
justice to it today.
Now
this bill addresses a number of issues including dangerous animals, municipal
designations, bylaws, appeals, and ethics. So we will start with dangerous
animals. This legislation would allow a council or judge to declare an animal
dangerous if its behaviour is menacing, if it’s known for attacking, or if it
bites without provocation, and also if it has been raised as a fighting animal.
And it makes it clear that raising animals to fight is illegal.
[15:00]
Moving
on, it excludes animals that work in performance, security, or guarding a home.
Moving on again, it gives the police the power of inspection for dangerous
animals, and it also gives them the ability to seize animals that they believe
are currently attacking, roving in packs, or are rabid. And you know, this is
an issue that I understand, again first-hand from living in the North, because
there are problems with dogs, for example, that are abandoned, and they get
together and they form packs and they can be quite dangerous to the community.
Bylaws allows for unpaid
bylaw fines to be added to your property taxes, and it can also allow for
vehicle-related crimes to be set — and that doesn’t just include parking fines.
This bill also allows for
appeals whereby you must talk to the assessor before filing an appeal. And it
makes legislation for ethics, so councils must have a code of ethics and an
orientation for new councillors to follow The Sask
Employment Act’s harassment rules. And I think this is really important. It
allows for the council to be able to appoint an Indigenous advisor. So I find
that to be a very important part of this bill.
Mr. Speaker, I want to say
that there is a lot to discuss here in this bill. It is a very, very dense
bill. And I know that we have our shadow minister of municipal relations who
will be looking into speaking with stakeholders, and I’m looking forward to
hearing on that front.
But what I really want to
talk about is something that I’m finding as I’m talking to stakeholders in
housing is, you know, some of the problems in downloading provincial
responsibilities onto municipalities. And what I’m finding is, for example, the
fire department has been very overtaxed in Saskatoon with responding to
overdoses. We’re also hearing from front-line workers, not just in libraries
but public transit workers.
You know, cities are doing
the best that they can. The city of Saskatoon is doing the best that it can to
address houselessness in the city of Saskatoon. And when there aren’t enough
shelters or warming centres for people to go to, they’re trying to open up
public spaces in the city, including libraries and buses, for unhoused folks to
be able to access. But that’s putting people like library workers and transit
drivers in situations that they weren’t trained to handle sometimes. And so the
downloading of services onto municipalities is definitely a problem that we
would just like to point out. So thank you for that.
And with that I move to
adjourn debate on Bill 43. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — The member has moved to
adjourn debate. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — Carried.
[The Assembly resumed the
adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon. Tim McLeod that Bill No. 44 — The Co‑operatives
Act, 2025/Loi de 2025 sur les coopératives be
now read a second time.]
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the member from Saskatoon Nutana.
Erika
Ritchie: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Always a pleasure to be on my feet, and in particular
for Bill No. 44, The Co‑operatives Act, 2025.
Now as I understand it, this
is a bill that is amalgamating two existing bills, consolidating them into one
large bill while at the same time making efforts to update . . . It’s
part of a larger effort I believe that’s under way to update business
legislation to support economic growth in the province. And certainly as a
proud member of several co‑ops here in Saskatchewan, I support any sort
of improvements that are being undertaken that will ensure the ongoing
viability of our co‑ops, allow for greater investment so that they can
continue to expand their reach, grow their businesses, and be able to provide
the range of goods and services that they do here in Saskatchewan.
And you know, co‑operatives
have a very long, proud history here in Saskatchewan. You know, over half of
Saskatchewan residents belong to a co‑op, and certainly we see how vital
these businesses, these co‑operative enterprises, are to our communities
overall. You know, how many times will you visit a community, and there’s the
local co‑op, you know, the grocery store, the hardware store, the gas
station, the ag services products. All those things are so vital to ensuring
the vitality of our communities right across this province, right straight from
the South all the way up north.
I did have the great honour
and privilege to sit on the board of the Saskatoon Co‑op after a very
sort of fractious kind of a situation that had happened a couple years ago
where there was a collective bargaining disagreement and a strike that ensued
from the local union. And I had already been interested in becoming a member of
the board, and it turned out to be a very, like I say, a very kind of fractious
time to get on the board. But I was very happy to represent the interests of
the workers at that co‑op and looking for that balance between the
workers and the members and the overall governance that was there.
And I have to say that one of
the things that really impressed me with the overall federated co‑operative
model was the governance structure and the training that’s provided for their
board members. You know, it is top of their class in terms of the education
that board members receive through a series of modules.
Incidentally there is also,
you know, revisions and amendments occurring under Bill 44 for municipal
councillors to also receive training. And I think that when board members are
put into these positions where they’re overseeing, you know, very significant
sums of money and policy development and providing services and programming to
their communities, whether it’s on a municipal council or on a co‑operative
board, that that training is really essential in order for them to be good
governors of these institutions.
I did notice that with some
of the changes that are being proposed, that there will be the ability for
there to be multi-stakeholder co-operatives that are owned by more than one
type of membership class such as consumers, producers, workers, volunteers, or
community supporters. You know, I welcome seeing this kind of a change so that
there’s more flexibility. I think that co-operatives here in Saskatchewan can
play a very significant role. And having that flexibility in terms of how
they’re structured, I think it can only be a great improvement.
In particular, I think that
the opportunity around worker co-operatives is especially opportunistic. There
is I think many cases where it provides a governance model that can ensure
that, you know, the workers in a business enterprise are the ones that are
directing the decision making and benefiting from the fruits of their labour.
So I look forward to seeing some of that in the coming years.
I know that there’s some
other improvements around electronic technology, simplifying liquidation and
dissolution procedures.
I know it’s another sort of
common trend; we’ve seen a lot of amalgamations happening with smaller co-ops.
Certainly the Saskatoon Co-op has gone through that over the last number of
years, and I think that’s been to the benefit of the members where they can
sort of, you know, with skill, have better services that they’re offering to
their members. And you know, any way that we can sort of facilitate some of
these kinds of transitions happening within the co‑operative sector are
important.
And I would note that it’s
interesting, or more than just interesting, but encouraging to see child care
and daycare facilities also be a very active area of co-operatives here right
across the Western provinces.
Yesterday I made a comparison
or an analogy of the Salvation Army sort of being like the fascia of our
province in terms of the way that they offer services. And you know, I’m
thinking about the co-ops in a similar fashion. Like they’re kind of like the circulatory
system of our province, you know. They’re everywhere, and they’re offering
services and programs and really like the lifeblood of our province. And I’m
certainly supportive of any measures that can ensure that they continue to be,
and hold that role in our province.
I know that the shadow
minister for this portfolio will be doing that stakeholder engagement to
understand where and how some of these changes are providing those positive and
constructive changes and amendments. And I’ll leave them to do that good work and,
with that, move to adjourn debate on Bill No. 44.
Speaker Goudy: —
The member has moved to adjourn debate. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to
adopt the motion?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker Goudy: —
Carried.
[The Assembly resumed the
adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon. Tim McLeod that Bill No. 45 — The Co‑operatives
Consequential Amendments Act, 2025 be now read a second time.]
Speaker
Goudy: —
I recognize the member from Saskatoon Nutana.
Erika Ritchie: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Pleasure to be on my feet once again. As I understand it, there are a number of
consequential amendments that are a companion to the previous bill and a range
of changes that are happening there.
You
know, one thing I talked a little bit about sort of, Saskatoon Co-op. I did
also want to mention a few others, co-operatives that I’m a member of and
excited about the work they’re doing. One of those would be the SES Solar Co‑operative.
And they celebrated 10 years anniversary back in the fall, and I’ve been a
member of their co‑operative for almost that long.
And
it’s been exciting to see them show a leadership role in delivering renewable
power within the city of Saskatoon and in partnership with the city. I think
it’s an incredible example of how individuals can pool their capital resources
together and deliver on a project and a program that needs leadership shown.
And so that’s been a really exciting co‑operative initiative to be a part
of over the years. And I was happy to attend their annual meeting at
the Diefenbaker centre back in the fall.
Another
one has been the Steep Hill Co-op, which is located in my constituency of
Saskatoon Nutana right on Broadway and for 50 years
has been providing groceries and products to the local community. And when the
local other sort of mainstream grocery store closed down a couple years ago,
they became sort of the central hub.
They’ve
since that time expanded their range of products and produce that they provide
to the community and in a very responsive way. And so it’s a good example of
how you can have some of that, local solutions being provided within a
community where those larger retailers, you know, simply aren’t able to sort of
deliver on the unique needs of that community.
[15:15]
I
want to give a shout-out to the Saskatoon Community Clinic. I’m ever grateful
for the broad range of services that the community clinic has been offering
ever since we had medicare come to Saskatchewan in
the early ’60s. They have been absolutely crucial to
the health and well-being of my family.
They’re
able to offer, you know, within that model because they have physicians on
salary. And yes, Danielle Chartier is their member services representative
who’s a former member of this Assembly. And they offer X-ray services and
occupational and physiotherapy and a pharmacy on site, and the list goes on.
And
they’re a really great model of how we can be delivering health services within
our community and in a very effective way, through that sort of team-based
approach with, you know, nurse practitioners, doctors, other health care
professionals all within one facility. And so you’re not sort of being farmed
out to different places. And I can’t speak highly enough about that.
The
only trouble is of course that in that case, you know, physician retention and
recruitment continue to be issues, like it is everywhere else across the
province. But they work extremely hard in providing those range of services and
also serving, you know, populations that would otherwise fall through the
cracks.
They
had their annual meeting back in the spring. I was happy to be there and learn
about some of the special services that they’re offering to newcomers to
Saskatchewan — very active with that population. Also very active with
vulnerable populations, people experiencing mental health and addiction issues.
As well they have programs for people who are transitioning. And it’s because
of that co‑operative model where, you know, it’s a different sort of
fee-for-service system and that involvement from the community to provide that
range of services.
And
so I think you can see here that, you know, whether it’s banking, health,
energy, food, gas, agriculture, like co-operatives are active right across the
economy and in health and human services here in Saskatchewan, providing those
vital services. And so it will be especially important that, as these changes
are going through, that they’re done thoughtfully in a right way to ensure the
continuing continuity and viability of these organizations and the wonderful
work that they’re doing to support our communities.
So
with that, I will move to adjourn debate on Bill No. 45.
Speaker Goudy: — The member has moved to
adjourn debate. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker Goudy: — Carried.
[The
Assembly resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon. Tim McLeod
that Bill No. 47 — The Response
to Illicit Drugs Act be now read a second time.]
Speaker Goudy: —
I recognize the member from Saskatoon Westview.
April
ChiefCalf: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’m
pleased to again rise in the legislature today and to have the opportunity to
speak to Bill No. 47, The Response to Illicit Drugs Act.
Mr.
Speaker, it’s a great privilege to be here and be able to come into this space
and speak to these bills and to have some input into them. And so today I want
to speak briefly about the contents of the bill, but then I also want to talk a
little bit more about the position that our side takes on this bill. And I also
want to speak from some personal experiences that I’ve had in the last six or
seven months that relate to the bill as well.
So
first of all, just summarizing the bill, what the bill allows for is for the
termination of a public employee who commits a drug crime or also if they have
committed this crime up to three years before they have taken the job. And they
cannot sue for wrongful termination. It also makes it a civil crime to commit a
drug-related crime that injures someone through use of or exposure to drugs. So
that’s briefly the contents of the bill.
Now
what I would like to talk about, Mr. Speaker, is that . . . You know,
it’s a little bit awkward to speak to this today because there was a member’s
statement earlier today on this particular bill and things that were said about
our side and where we stand on this issue. And it’s not that we don’t
understand the importance of applying criminalization to illicit drugs. The
point is that there has to be more to it than that. There has to be more to it
than just addressing it through the criminal justice system and through
legislation, right. Because what we want to understand is not just getting
tough on crime, but what are the causes of crime?
And
so why do people use drugs? You know, this is a question that I think we don’t
ask often enough. And I think each and every one of us in this House
. . . I would be really surprised if there was anybody in the House
today that couldn’t say that there’s somebody in their personal circle that
uses some substance, whether it’s illegal or legal, right. We all know that
this is something that happens, and it’s something that has happened in my
family and in my personal circle.
And
so I just want to note that, you know, in the last seven months I have lost a
family member to drug overdose, I have lost a former student, and I have lost a
former co-worker. And it’s been really hard, you know, to think of this as just
something that’s a criminal activity because all of these people had severe
trauma in their lives and they had severe difficulties in accessing supports to
help them, whether it was to find housing or deal with domestic violence or
deal with residential school trauma. All of these issues that have led them to
use — a lack of housing — have led them to use drugs as a coping mechanism for
what they’re dealing with.
And
so what I would like us to think about is, how can we put more supports in our
society? We’ve talked quite a bit in the House about increasing funding and
increasing beds for addictions treatment. And we’ve had difficulty just getting
some answers to questions in question period in the House on that issue.
We
know that people are really struggling to get housing in our province right
now. I’ve been going out every Sunday. My husband and I, we make frybread and
we go to a place where there’s a lot of unhoused folks, and we work with
another group of people that are volunteers. And they just come together in the
community and they feed people.
And
you get to know people. And you get to know their stories a little bit better.
And yes, some of the folks are using drugs. I know that. I also see
grandmothers who are raising grandchildren and they’re struggling with poverty
and that’s why they come every Sunday, to get food. And apparently they really
like my frybread too. So I even went out and bought a deep fryer so I can make
a higher quality of frybread than what I can make in the electric frying pan.
So
you know, I think we also have to have compassion for people. We also need to
understand where people are coming from. We need to understand that they need
access to services and that government has a responsibility to provide those
services. And it’s not just about locking people up in jail and throwing away
the key or suing them. It’s about understanding why people are engaging in
behaviours that they’re engaging in and doing what we can to provide supports,
to understand them, and to help them.
And
with that, I move to adjourn debate on Bill No. 47, The Response to
Illicit Drugs Act.
Speaker Goudy: — The member has moved to
adjourn debate. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker Goudy: — Carried.
[The
Assembly resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon. Lori
Carr that Bill No. 48 — The
Compassionate Intervention Act be now read a second time.]
Speaker Goudy: —
I recognize the member from Saskatoon Silverspring.
Hugh Gordon: — Good day again, Mr. Speaker.
Again it’s an honour to be on my feet to address Bill 48, The Compassionate
Intervention Act here in this Assembly. I think of all the bills that are
before us for our contemplation, this is an important bill to also contemplate,
probably the most important in this entire session.
Like
the member from Westview said, my family too has been affected by drug
addiction. Some have died; some have gotten treatment. Some have succeeded, and
sadly some have not. And I wholeheartedly agree that more needs to be done,
that we as a province and certainly we as an Assembly and members on all sides
here have to step up to this occasion because our kids are counting on it, Mr.
Speaker.
There’s
a number of elements to this bill, Mr. Speaker, that on the whole of it, after
having read it, appear quite robust, that some thought on the part of
government has taken place. What’s yet to come of course are the regulations.
But I would like to say that for certain, whether it’s information or
consultations we’ve had with stakeholders — I’m sure the same stakeholders the
government side has had — I know stakeholders that myself and the shadow
minister for Justice and Community Safety have engaged with . . . we
need more tools in the tool box to deal with this issue. And I don’t think any
of us in this legislature should contemplate removing any tools from the tool
box.
I
think we need to examine them on their merits and ensure that there are enough
resources, supports, personnel, and certainly funding to ensure that those
tools in our tool box are working effectively. We on this side have voiced a
number of concerns with respect to this government’s ability to deliver mental
health services and addictions services. One only needs to look at the
treatment centre that the government can’t open on time or on budget as an
example.
But
certainly for this bill, we cannot afford to muck it up. We have to make sure
that this tool in the tool box is going to work effectively, that it has every
chance possible to succeed. And I know those of us on this side are going to do
what we can to ensure that this tool in the tool box will work as intended.
You
know, as a former police officer — and I’m sure the Minister of Government
Relations can attest — we know what it’s like, what it was like dealing with
folks in the midst of a mental health crisis and the responsibilities we had as
police officers when that individual threatened harm to themselves or someone
else. We had that obligation, Mr. Speaker. It wasn’t an “if, and, or but”
obligation. We had to rise to the occasion and deal with individuals
unfortunately who were probably in the midst of the worst time of their life or
family members who were also going through some trauma. And they’re dicey
situations, I’ll tell you.
I
could tell you a great story about a fellow that had threatened to kill
himself, and when I attended and had a chat with him, he thought it might be a
good idea to maybe do the same to me. But having the benefit of some experience
and being somewhat quick on my feet, I was able to disarm that situation and
de-escalate it and ensure that individual was taken to proper care in custody
and delivered to a proper place to see a proper physician so they could get the
treatment that hopefully that they received.
And
that is the spirit I think behind this bill. And I think that’s the spirit with
which we’re going to approach it as the opposition, that there may be
opportunities for us here in this legislature to put something into place
that’s going to help those who are most in need or, quite frankly, are not in a
position to help themselves. And I think that’s understandable, and I think the
spirit of that is commendable. And we will support that.
[15:30]
I will say though however,
Mr. Speaker, you know, we’re going to continue to have conversations with
stakeholders in the police world here in this province, different police
agencies, police service unions. I know our shadow minister for Addictions is
also having consultations with folks in the health care field to get their
input. And as I’ve said, the bill appears to be rather robust. There’s been
some thought put into this.
There might be questions
about resourcing, might be questions about facilities, might be questions about
cost or transportation or security, perhaps liability. There might be a number
of questions.
But the proof will be in the
pudding, as a number of our stakeholders have already told us — police
agencies, chiefs of police, Saskatchewan Federation of Police Officers. The
proof will be in the pudding. The proof will be in the regulations. The proof will
be in the fine print. And that’s where the rubber will essentially hit the road
on this bill.
And
that’s really where I think we have an opportunity to get a win here for the
people of the province and a win for those who are dealing with these kinds of
addictions. Because clearly, Mr. Speaker, enough has not been done and more
needs to be done. And so if we are going to do it, let’s darn well make sure we
do it right, and let’s not play politics with this. Literally, Mr. Speaker,
people’s lives are counting on that we get this one right.
And
so I would strongly urge all members of this Assembly, the ministers
responsible, to do their part, to do adequate consultations with stakeholders
across the province, whether they be in the police agencies, the health care
providers, mental health, addictions providers. There’s a lot of layers to this
bill. There’s a lot of moving parts to it that need to be sorted out and some
assurance given to everyone who’s going to engage in this system that the
government is proposing that it works right at every stage, right.
As
a police officer, you know . . . because that’s one part of the bill
where I think police officers are going to be asked to kind of be the focal
point or the frontpeople for this system to work effectively. And quite rightly
so in a number of cases, Mr. Speaker. As our police stakeholders have told us,
you know, they know their people in their community that need the help. They
know those that can’t help themselves. They know those who are on the razor’s
edge of life and death. They know. They’ve already identified them, right.
But
we want to make sure that those police officers are adequately supported and
that this works as a win-win for everyone involved. As we said, we don’t want
any tools to be taken out of the tool box, but any tools that are in that tool
box have got to work appropriately. So we want to make sure that at every stage
everyone has the support, the personnel, and the resources to make this work.
So
with that, Mr. Speaker, I will look forward to further debate on this bill. I
will look forward to attending committee on this bill. I will look forward to
continuing engagement with our stakeholders and the very important information
and advice and concerns that they may have. And I will be watching with an
eagle eye to see if the government is intent on ensuring that they have
listened to that input from those stakeholders. Because as the worker bee in
the RCMP [Royal Canadian Mounted Police], it was always great for someone up
top to tell you how things were going to happen, and it was awfully darn
difficult to tell them whether or not you could actually do that. So to have
that support at every level is important.
So
with that, Mr. Speaker, I will move to adjourn debate on Bill 48.
Speaker Goudy: — The member has moved to
adjourn debate. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker Goudy: — Carried. I recognize the
Government House Leader.
Hon. Tim McLeod: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I
move that the Assembly do now adjourn.
Speaker Goudy: — It’s been moved that this
Assembly does now adjourn. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the
motion?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker Goudy: — This Assembly stands
adjourned until tomorrow at 10 a.m.
[The
Assembly adjourned at 15:35.]
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