CONTENTS
National
Child Day an Opportunity for Reflection
Giving
Back through Ronald McDonald House Fundraiser
Recognizing Trans Rights on
Transgender Day of Remembrance
Good
Spirit Bible Camp Nurtures Faith
Moose
Jaw Recovery Program Helps Keep Downtown Clean
Honouring
Diversity during Saskatchewan Multicultural Week
Emergency
Hotel Stays Paid by Social Services
Rural
Health Care Staffing and Provision of Emergency Services
Construction
of New Yorkton Hospital
Increase
to Cost of Tire Recycling
Supports
for Ukrainian Post-Secondary Students
Access
to Addictions Treatment
Addressing
Interpersonal Violence
PRIVATE
MEMBERS’ PUBLIC BILLS AND ORDERS
Motion
No. 1 — Support for Development of Pipeline to West Coast

SECOND
SESSION — THIRTIETH LEGISLATURE
of
the
Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan
DEBATES
AND PROCEEDINGS
(HANSARD)
N.S. Vol. 67 No. 16A Thursday,
November 20, 2025, 10:00
[Prayers]
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I’m happy to see
you got your hat back.
Mr. Speaker, to you and through you to all members
of this Legislative Assembly, I would like to make three introductions.
And I know we have so many guests that have joined
us here today, and I would like to take this opportunity to welcome them all.
And they’ll be introduced in due course here this morning. And I want to thank
them for coming and attending here today as we really celebrate — celebrate not
only our province but our nation, Mr. Speaker, and how our nation has come to
be, and celebrate who we are as community, who we are as a province, and
celebrate who we are as a nation of Canada.
But I do want to take the opportunity at the outset
to introduce three individuals, Mr. Speaker. Starting at the back we have
Muhammad Fiaz, who served on the floor of this Legislative Assembly for the
constituency of Regina Pasqua. I welcome him today and thank him for his
service to the people of Regina and the people of Saskatchewan.
We also have with us from the constituency of Arm
River, Mr. Speaker — not armed river; Arm River — also has served on the floor
of this Assembly, Mr. Dana Skoropad. Mr. Speaker, if there was a fourth
previous MLA [Member of the Legislative Assembly] here by the name of Don
Morgan, he would have instructed me to introduce him not as Dana Skoropad but
as Slick Scorecard, Mr. Speaker. But a great friend as well and thank Dana for
his service, again to the people of the constituency of Arm River, Mr. Speaker,
and to the people of the province.
And no stranger to this Assembly for many years, a
founding member of this Saskatchewan Party, and a great friend to so many
across the province, in particular in the Ukrainian community, Mr. Speaker, the
former deputy premier of the province of Saskatchewan, former Finance
minister . . . I’d better mention minister of Education as well
or he might take
me to the woodshed after, Mr. Speaker. But is Ken Krawetz who served for many,
many years, over two decades on the floor of this Assembly — much of it in this
chair right here being the deputy premier, Mr. Speaker — for the constituency
of Canora-Pelly. And I want to thank Ken Krawetz for his service as well to his
constituents, and thank him for his service to the province of Saskatchewan
that continues to this day in much of the work that he does.
Mr.
Speaker, through you and to you to all members of this Legislative Assembly, I
would ask us to join in welcoming these three previous members of this
Legislative Assembly to their Legislative Assembly.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
member from Regina Mount Royal.
Trent Wotherspoon: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s a real
pleasure to join with the Premier here today to welcome these three leaders,
these three former members back to their Assembly.
It’s
wonderful to see MLA Fiaz in the Assembly here today. He has a wonderful
family. He certainly served his community and his province well. We’re still
long overdue for a squash game, Mr. Fiaz. But wonderful to have you here.
Also
wonderful to have MLA Skoropad here. Of course he’s looking sharp in a bright
blue teal suit here. He always was the sharpest dressed in this Assembly.
Wonderful family as well. And somebody that was an exceptional educator as
well. And it’s a real pleasure to welcome Mr. Skoropad back to his Assembly
here as well. It was nice to visit with him and some of the Moose Jaw students
out in the rotunda.
And
I’d like to join in the welcome as well of former deputy premier and a minister
on many fronts and a leader in this province, Ken Krawetz who continues to lead
in many ways, certainly in the Ukrainian Canadian community. This is somebody
who has given a whole bunch to his province, a whole lot of heart and soul, a
whole lot of care, a little bit of yelling in this Assembly once in a while,
Mr. Speaker. This is a man that’s passionate about his province. And it’s a
real pleasure to welcome him as well.
I
ask all members to join with me in celebrating and welcoming these three very
fine former members.
And,
Mr. Speaker, I can’t stand up and introduce these three members without
touching one other incredible leader and someone that I’m very proud to serve
as her MLA. And that’s Carol LaFayette-Boyd, who’s seated in the gallery right
here. A legend on so many fronts. Track world record holder in so many events,
has broken more world records than . . . Well I don’t know what she’s
at here right now, but it’s remarkable. World recognition through the track
community as a global success, Mr. Speaker.
And
an incredible builder in this community, the African Canadian community as well
through her life, through her work, through giving back, through her incredible
career. Mr. Speaker, this is a leader in so many ways. I ask all to welcome
Carol LaFayette-Boyd to her Assembly.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
Minister of Parks, Culture and Sport.
Hon. Alana Ross: — Thank you. I request leave for an
extended, extended introduction.
Speaker Goudy: — The minister has requested leave for
an extended, extended introduction. Is leave granted?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Hon. Alana Ross: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and
through you, I would like to welcome a number of guests joining us here today
in various galleries to celebrate the introduction of the “from many peoples,
strength” Act. Today is a very special day as we have representatives from
cultural groups and communities from across our province.
But
to keep this somewhat brief, I will recognize the various communities that we
have represented with each individual. But please know I know there’s people
with tremendous accomplishments who are joining us here today. And we’re so
pleased to have you with us.
This
morning I welcome representatives from FSIN [Federation of Sovereign Indigenous
Nations], Métis Nation-Saskatchewan, members of the Greek Hellenic community,
members from Saskatchewan African Canadian Heritage Museum, the Daughters of
Africa Resources Center, as well as UCAS [Uganda Canadian Association of
Saskatchewan] & African Descent Professional Associates, Saskatchewan
Hungarian clubs, leaders and members of the Islamic community, leaders and
representatives from the Sikh community, members of the Jewish community, the
Hindu community, representatives from the francophone community with
l’Assemblée communautaire fransaskoise, members of the Sri Lankan community,
the Filipino community, representatives from the Ukrainian Canadian Congress of
Saskatchewan. All are joining us here today. And we also have representatives
from the Multicultural Council of Canada bringing with them nominees for this
year’s Multicultural Honours Awards.
As
we celebrate Multicultural Week this week, also we celebrate the 50th
anniversary of the Multicultural Council of Saskatchewan. For the last 50 years
they have been working with organizations in our province, fostering
opportunities for cross-cultural interaction and raising awareness of the
benefits of cultural diversity. This is an incredible achievement, and I offer
my sincere congratulations and best wishes to them for years to come.
With
that said, I ask all members to join me in welcoming these cultural
communities, organizations, and representatives to their Legislative Assembly.
And
while I’m on my feet, Mr. Speaker, I would also like to recognize another
former colleague who has joined us today, and that is Kamel Shazad, former
chief of staff in our building. Please join me in welcoming him to his
Legislative Assembly.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
member from Saskatoon Stonebridge.
Darcy Warrington: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I request leave
for an extended, extended, extended introduction.
Speaker Goudy: — The member has requested leave for
an extended introduction. Is leave granted?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Darcy Warrington: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the shadow
minister for Parks, Culture and Sport, it brings me great pleasure to welcome
everyone to this, their Legislative Assembly today.
So
many different groups represented. We have with us, as the minister said,
l’Assemblée communautaire fransaskoise, the Greek community, Hindu community,
Hungarian Cultural and Social Club, Jewish community, Métis
Nation-Saskatchewan, the Islamic community, Saskatchewan African Canadian
Heritage Museum, and the Daughters of Africa. We also have with us the Sikh
community and the Sri Lankan community. And we also have behind us the Filipino
community.
And I’d also like to just point out, as
the minister said, the 50th anniversary of the Multicultural Council of
Saskatchewan. The Heritage Recognition (From Many Peoples, Strength) Act
is certainly something that we all value on our side of the aisle. We’ve been
advocating for these sorts of recognitions in the legislature for quite some
time, and it’s long overdue.
I
taught in a school called Sylvia Fedoruk School, with about 1,000 students, and
there was about 40 different countries represented with over a dozen languages
spoken. It’s truly a great place for us all to live and raise a family, being
here in this cultural mosaic that we call Canada.
So
with that being said, on behalf of the official opposition, I’d like us all to
welcome these fine folks to this, their Legislative Assembly.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
Provincial Secretary.
Hon. Jamie Martens: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to
do a few introductions today, starting with the Ukrainian Canadian Congress of
Saskatchewan. In the House today we have Charlene Tebbutt, Iryna Soloduk,
Danylo Puderak, Holly Paluck, Liuba Krupina, Maryna Suprun, Sofiia Hladka,
Oleksandr Shevchenko, Oleg Garbuz, and Vasylyna Boiarchuk and children
Vladislav and Dymytro.
As
well I would also like to welcome the Sikh community from my constituency and
the members of the gurdwara in my constituency, and the president of the Sikh
association, and that is Balpreet Singh.
I
would like all members in the House to please welcome all of these individuals
to their legislature. Thank you.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
member from Saskatoon Churchill-Wildwood.
Keith Jorgenson: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s a pleasure
to join the member opposite in welcoming various members of the Ukrainian
Canadian Congress and the greater Ukrainian community to their legislature. You
know, many of them I consider friends. It’s wonderful to have them here and be
able to start the process of codifying a Ukrainian Heritage Month. So thank you
so much for joining us in the legislature today, and I would like everybody,
all members of the legislature, to join me in welcoming the members of the
Ukrainian communities to their legislature.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
member from Moose Jaw Wakamow.
Megan Patterson: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and
through you, it is my honour to introduce Shannon Simpson to this, her
Legislative Assembly. Shannon is a resident of Moose Jaw and she has raised
three amazing children there. I am proud to call her my friend. She is kind and
generous and cares deeply about the city of Moose Jaw and its residents.
And
while I’m on my feet, I’d also like to quickly introduce John Iatridis who my colleague will say more about in
a second.
So
I’d like to ask all members of the Assembly to please welcome Shannon Simpson
to this, her Legislative Assembly.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
Minister of Justice.
Hon. Tim McLeod: — Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. And
as my colleague indicated, joining Shannon is one of the strongest champions of
the city of Moose Jaw that we could possibly have, and that’s John Iatridis. John is the owner of The Mad Greek
restaurant in Moose Jaw, Mr. Speaker. I consider him a close friend. He’s a
very prominent businessman in the city of Moose Jaw.
So
I would like all of my colleagues to please join me in welcoming John Iatridis
to this, his Legislative Assembly.
[10:15]
While
I’m on my feet, Mr. Speaker, we have two school groups from Moose Jaw joining
us here today. They would certainly be familiar with The Mad Greek as well.
Joining us up in the east gallery I believe we have 37 grade 12 students from
Peacock Collegiate. They’re brought to the Legislative Assembly today, Mr.
Speaker, by their teacher Carrie Kiefer. Ms. Kiefer is no stranger to the
Assembly. She’s a regular here in the galleries, bringing students, teaching
them about the democratic process and the legislative process. And we thank her
sincerely for that, Mr. Speaker.
Also
in the east gallery we have 27 grade 11 students from Vanier Collegiate.
Speaker’s gallery, pardon me. There they are. Sorry, Mr. Speaker. The 27 Vanier
students are joined by their teacher Luke Tkatchuk. I understand that Luke is
an alumni of the University of Saskatchewan Huskies football team, so we will
all be cheering on his alum this weekend, Mr. Speaker, as the Huskies of course
are going to bring home the Vanier Cup.
And
joining these 27 students and their teacher Luke is of course their other
teacher, my former colleague and good friend Dana Skoropad. Mr. Skoropad of
course, as was commented, brings his colourful suits to this legislature. He
wears an array of colours, Mr. Speaker, that frankly most of us are simply not
brave enough to try on. But not only does Dana wear them, he makes them look
good. So I would ask all in this Assembly to please join me in welcoming these
teachers, their students to this, their Legislative Assembly.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
member from Saskatoon Eastview.
Matt Love: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is my honour
to rise and introduce a small delegation from Swift Current who joined us here
today.
Joining
us from Swift Current’s First United Church is Deb Fletcher, Linda Stumpf, and Allie
Van Der Ploeg, who’s come all the way from Australia to be here today in the
Saskatchewan legislature.
And
along with them, from Southwest Pride, we have Theo Houghtaling and Kim
Houghtaling. They’re here for a member’s statement later on, and I won’t get
too much into the content of that. But they very much would like to meet with
their MLA following the 75‑minute debate if the minister opposite has
time for that. I’d like to express thankfulness and ask all members to welcome
this delegation from Swift Current to their Assembly.
And
while I’m on my feet, I’d also like to welcome my constituency assistant. Just
a really incredible and talented asset on my team, Sebastian Gardulski is here.
Sebastian is a fixture in the Ukrainian community in Saskatoon, an accomplished
dancer, who now devotes himself to coaching Ukrainian dance. I think like any
good constituency assistant, he knows what I need before I know what I need. I
rely on him for so many things — a very talented individual. I’d like to ask
all members in the Assembly to join me in welcoming Sebastian to his
Legislative Assembly.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
Minister of Education.
Hon. Everett Hindley: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to join
with my colleague, the member opposite for Saskatoon Eastview, in also
welcoming the delegation from Swift Current who is here this morning and
joining us in the east gallery, Mr. Speaker, a number of individuals that the
member opposite has already introduced. I want to thank them for making the
trek from Swift Current to be here at the legislature today for proceedings.
And I’m looking forward to having the chance to chat with them afterwards.
I
want to just maybe perhaps point out one that I know quite well, Deb Fletcher,
who’s sitting back there. Deb and I know each other quite well from our
activities at the Kiwanis Club of Swift Current, which does some amazing work
in our community as a local organization fundraising for youth initiatives, for
families. We’ve just come through an apple fundraiser drive this fall. And
we’re about to start selling some Christmas trees, Deb, I understand here in
about a week’s time or so. And thank Deb for her commitment too. She’s also
involved with the Meals on Wheels I think with Swift Current as well.
But
I just want to thank Deb for her commitment to youth initiatives and to the
Kiwanis Club of Swift Current, and through you and to you, Mr. Speaker, welcome
all the guests who are here, the Houghtalings, everyone else who’s joined us
from the great community of Swift Current. And thank you for being here today.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
Minister of Advanced Education.
Hon. Ken Cheveldayoff: — Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I
request leave for an extended introduction.
Speaker Goudy: — The minister has requested leave for
an extended introduction. Is leave granted?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Hon. Ken Cheveldayoff: — Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
Colleagues, it’s with great pleasure this morning that I introduce to you no
stranger to this Legislative Assembly, Dr. Jeff Keshen, president of the
University of Regina. He was just here to celebrate multi-year funding and is
here for a very important occasion as well.
He’s
joined by other officials from the University of Regina — Haroon Chaudhry, the
associate VP [vice-president] international, and I believe others that may have
came in as well from the University of Regina. We welcome them here today to
their Legislative Assembly as we highlight an example of Saskatchewan’s
commitment to education, equality, and global responsibility.
The
University of Regina has taken a leadership role in ensuring that Afghan women
who face systemic barriers to education can continue their education right here
in our province. Their safety and continued access to education is made
possible by the University of Regina’s donor-funded Project Resilience
scholarship program and its partnership with Women Leaders of Tomorrow, a
Canadian non-profit organization.
Through
these efforts, more than $816,000 has been raised to support Afghan women
students, and three of them are here today, seated in your gallery. And
additional cohorts will be joining them as well.
I’m
pleased to recognize these three students. If they’d please stand for
recognition from the House, we have Nilofar Naderi, Spogmai Hashemi, and
Tahmeana Khaliqi. These three women represent resilience and determination. And
they’re present here as a testament to what can be achieved when institutions,
donors, and advocacy groups work together.
Mr.
Speaker, this is about more than education. It reflects Saskatchewan as a
strong, safe, and inclusive province. Programs like Project Resilience send a
clear message: we open doors. And in Saskatchewan we lead with compassion and
opportunity.
Again
I ask all members of this Legislative Assembly to welcome this awesome group
and encourage great studies here. And we’ll be welcoming more of their cohorts
in the future. And a real congratulations for the leadership that the
University of Regina has shown.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
member from Saskatoon University-Sutherland.
Tajinder Grewal: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I join the
minister opposite to welcome Dr. Jeff Keshen, president of the University of
Regina; Dr. Haroon Chaudhry, vice-president international; and three women from
Afghanistan — Nilofar Naderi, Spogmai Hashemi, and Tahmeana Khaliqi. Welcome to
Regina and welcome to Saskatchewan.
A
week ago I attended a Wingspan gala in Saskatoon, where 200 women from
Afghanistan get together for their personal development leadership skills.
Thank you very much for coming to Saskatchewan and showing resilience.
I
ask all the members to join me to welcome university officials and these
students.
While
I’m on feet, Mr. Speaker, I want to welcome the Shaheed Sikh Society of
Saskatchewan’s executive members, and the members of Islamic Association of
Saskatchewan, and the Hindu Society of Saskatchewan, and the many other
cultural communities to their legislature. Thank you.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
Minister of Social Services.
Hon. Terry Jenson: — Well thank you, Mr. Speaker. And to you
and through you this morning I’d like to just expand on the Minister of Parks,
Culture and Sport’s very brief introduction of somebody that we know very well
in this building, Kamel Shazad. Kamel is in your gallery, and Kamel is the
director of public affairs for the Construction Association of Saskatchewan.
He’s
very much a family-first gentleman. He does a lot of work, so much work, and
volunteers to make his community a better place. And he is a familiar face to
this building, Mr. Speaker. He’s worked in the ministries of SaskBuilds as well
as Social Services and Crown Investments Corporation prior to joining the
Construction Association of Saskatchewan.
We’ve
become very good friends, so many on this side of the House, Mr. Speaker, with
Kamel. And we do truly appreciate him being here with us today. So with that
I’d like the entire Assembly to join me in welcoming Kamel back to his
Legislative Assembly, and hope he has a lot of fun here today. Thank you, Mr.
Speaker.
Speaker Goudy: — Well what
an interesting place to work. It’s bring-your-friends-to-work day. I don’t
think a lot of places get to experience this, but looking up into the balcony
and all of the balconies, seeing our friends, this is a great opportunity for
us to serve you. And it’s a great day.
And to the Minister of Parks, Culture and Sport and
Elias Nelson and your staff, I am very thankful that you’re all here today. I won’t name
names, but welcome here. And I hope you enjoy the proceedings and the
discussions today.
Speaker Goudy: — Now we’re going to move on to
presenting petitions. And I recognize the member from Regina Rochdale.
Joan Pratchler: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I rise to
present a petition calling for our government to step up for Indigenous
students here in Saskatchewan.
The
undersigned residents would like to bring to our attention the following: that
immediate action needs to take place to stand up for Indigenous children and
indeed all vulnerable children and students, advocating for the full
restoration of the funding that was previously supported by Jordan’s principle.
Jordan’s
principle was established to ensure that First Nations children have equitable
access to the services they need, including supports in schools. The recent
loss of this federal funding will leave a significant gap in Saskatchewan
classrooms, especially for Indigenous students who rely on this funding for
inclusive education supports to thrive. Instead of stepping up to fill this
gap, this year’s provincial budget reduced education funding to less than what
is actually in the previous year. This is an alarming move at a time when our
schools are already stretched to the breaking point due to chronic underfunding
and short-staffing.
I’ll
read the prayer:
We, in the prayer that reads as follows, respectfully
request the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan to stand up for Saskatchewan
and advocate for restoration of funding to support the Indigenous students in
our schools; to commit to sustainable, predictable, and equitable provincial
funding for inclusive education across Saskatchewan; and to ensure education
support workers have the resources and the staffing that they need to keep
classrooms safe and to support every student’s learning journey.
Mr.
Speaker, this petition has been signed by the residents from Lloydminster, St.
Walburg, and North Battleford. I do so present.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
member from Saskatoon University-Sutherland.
Tajinder Grewal: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise to
present a petition calling for equity in education for our students with
disabilities.
The
undersigned residents of the province of Saskatchewan wish to bring to your
attention the following: that in 2023 the Saskatchewan Human Rights Commission
conducted a review of the policies, programs, and funding models to provide
target scores for students living with dyslexia; that according to PISA
[Programme for International Student Assessment], Saskatchewan has some of the
worst learning outcomes in the country; that access to education is a right
under The Saskatchewan Human Rights Code and an untold number of
students across Saskatchewan are being denied access to their human right to an
education.
With
that Mr. Speaker, I will read the prayer:
We respectfully request the Legislative Assembly of
Saskatchewan call on the Government of Saskatchewan to immediately work with
the Saskatchewan Human Rights Commission to conduct and in-depth review of our
public education system, specifically around the policies, the programs, and
funding models designed to support children living with disabilities in our
public education system.
This
petition has been signed by the residents of Saskatoon. I do so present. Thank
you.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
member from Regina Douglas Park.
Nicole Sarauer: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to
present a petition calling on the government to reverse the ban on third-party
educators from publicly funded schools.
Those
who signed this petition wish to bring to our attention the following: that on
August 22, 2023 the Saskatchewan government banned all third-party educators
from publicly funded schools. The topics that these organizations taught
include things like consent, healthy relationships, and child sexual abuse
prevention. With Saskatchewan’s worst-in-the-nation rates in intimate partner
violence and sexual abuse, the government should be doing everything possible
to reduce these rates, including prevention education. And Mr. Speaker, the
decision to ban these educators makes Saskatchewan rates of intimate partner
violence, sexual violence, and sexual abuse worse, not better.
I’d
like to read the prayer:
We, in the prayer that reads as follows, respectfully
request that the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan call on the Government of
Saskatchewan to immediately reverse its decision to ban third-party educators
in Saskatchewan schools and consult with experts in developing a comprehensive
curriculum for all Saskatchewan students.
Those
who signed the petition today come from Saskatoon. I do so present.
[10:30]
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
member from Saskatoon Southeast.
Brittney Senger: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise to
present a petition to address the affordability crisis. The undersigned
residents of the province of Saskatchewan wish to bring to your attention the
following: that inflation is the highest it’s been in more than three decades;
that half of Saskatchewan residents were living paycheque to paycheque before
transportation and food costs that skyrocketed in 2022. While other provinces
acted, the Sask Party government ignored the opposition calls for a gas price
relief plan.
I
shall read the prayer:
We, in the prayer that reads as follows, respectfully
request that the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan call on the Government of
Saskatchewan to meaningfully address the affordability in Saskatchewan.
The
undersigned residents reside in Saskatoon. I do so present.
Speaker Goudy: — I recognize the
member from Regina Mount Royal.
Trent
Wotherspoon: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise to present petitions on behalf of concerned
citizens as it relates to the very serious rent increases that they’re facing,
making that cost of living so much worse, Mr. Speaker. Of course they
identified that Saskatchewan has the highest increases to their rent and that
renters deserve and need protection. They’re in a very precarious situation.
I recently sat down with a group of
young senior women in my riding in units that are owned by a large
out-of-province corporate landlord, and they’re facing increases, Mr. Speaker,
of over 30 per cent in just two years. These women have worked incredibly hard
through their lives and they can’t make ends meet. They need some rent
protection.
The prayer reads as follows:
We, in the prayer
that reads as follows, respectfully request the Legislative Assembly of
Saskatchewan call on the Government of Saskatchewan to adopt fair and effective
rent control legislation that limits annual rent increases, ensures housing
stability, and protects tenants from being priced out of their homes.
These
petitions are signed by concerned residents of Regina. I so submit.
Speaker Goudy:
— I recognize the member from Regina Rochdale.
Joan Pratchler: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today, November 20, marks National Child Day, a day to
recognize and promote children’s rights.
Adopted by the United Nations in 1989,
Canada joined in 1991, making a commitment to ensure that all children from
birth to 18 years old are treated with dignity, respect, and that children have
an opportunity to reach their full potential by protecting them from harm and
ensuring that their basic needs are met and that they have a voice to speak and
to be heard.
Children’s rights are human rights.
They’re non-negotiable and they’re universal. But in too many places today,
children’s rights are being misunderstood, disregarded, denied, and even
attacked. To honour children is to honour what makes us human. It might be a
good time right now to think of those precious ones in our own circle, family,
who need to be honoured and hugged maybe a little tighter the next time we see
them.
As legislators, we are the keepers of
policies for children. To cherish the preciousness of children and their
childhood is one of the highest callings for any adult. May we as legislators
answer that call responsibly with compassion and accountability, and extending
it to every child in this province in all that we do. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Moosomin-Montmartre.
Kevin Weedmark: —
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Last night I had the honour of speaking at an
amazing event to support an important cause, the second annual Ronald McDonald
House Saskatchewan’s House Party. I’ve spoken to a lot of people who have
stayed at Ronald McDonald House and who wanted to give back.
Summer Heide and her daughter Mikka from
Moosomin were there last night. Summer’s family stayed at Ronald McDonald House
when Mikka was in hospital in Saskatoon for surgery. To give back, Summer
organized a fundraiser and raised $6,500.
Chris MacPherson of Wapella wanted to
give back because his family spent the first few weeks of his daughter’s life
at Ronald McDonald House. He had a cattle sale and donated some of the proceeds
to Ronald McDonald House.
One heifer was bought by Levi Jamieson
of Moosomin whose family stayed at Ronald McDonald House in Saskatoon when he
was in hospital after an accident, and the sale of those heifers raised
$15,000.
I see the impact of Ronald McDonald
House and hear about the urge to give back from lots of people, and I know that
giving back makes such a difference. Mr. Speaker, I’m proud that our government
shares that commitment and announced earlier this year $10 million in
support of construction of the Ronald McDonald houses in Regina and Prince
Albert. And I was happy to hear last night that those projects are going very
well.
I want to say thank you to Ronald
McDonald House Saskatchewan for the incredible work they do. Thanks to all the
volunteers, the staff, and the donors. I look forward to those new houses being
completed, and I want to thank everyone who contributes in any way. Thank you
very much.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Northeast.
Jacqueline Roy: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s a sad day, November 20th. The Transgender Day of
Remembrance is an important day that calls on us as a society to remember the
lives of our trans friends — or for some, family members — who’ve had their
lives tragically cut short as a result of hate-fuelled violence, or of not
being able to take it anymore and taking your own life.
1999: Transgender Day of Remembrance was
started to honour the memory of Rita Hester, a trans woman who was murdered
simply because she was trans. 2012: Canada formally recognizes the day. 2014:
Saskatchewan adds trans rights to the Sask human rights code. 2021: 2,500 trans
people are identified by the Canadian census as living in Saskatchewan. That’s
a small minority. But in 2023 the government passed Bill 137 restricting the
rights of trans kids.
We’ve seen a documented rise in trans
violence in our province and in reports of wanting to self-harm. Things
could’ve been different. There are ways to proceed that don’t add fuel to the
fire for those who will not cease to hate and who will use any excuse to hurt.
History has told us so. We have a responsibility as legislators to mitigate
against potential harm, Mr. Speaker. Let us take this time to remind ourselves
that trans rights are human rights and think of the lives lost. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Yorkton.
David Chan: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Last weekend I had the honour of attending the
fundraising banquet for Good Spirit Bible Camp, nestled in the heart of Good
Spirit Lake Provincial Park, just 40 minutes from Yorkton. I observed the room
packed with grandparents, parents, and youth, many of whom have themselves
attended Good Spirit years ago. The camp’s mission, challenging all people to
know God personally through his creation and his word, was visible in that
room.
Last summer the camp welcomed over 500
children, including many from my constituency. And I heard deeply moving
stories from kids, teenagers, board members, and parents, all of whom testify
to one truth: there is a loving and holy God, and he sees our children.
I want to extend thanks to the camp
director, Luke Prybylski, and his dedicated team of 60 young adults and teen
leaders for working tirelessly throughout the summer, and now in the off-season
to raise funds for the new dining hall so that even more children and families
may be served.
In an age where children are
increasingly drawn into devices, social media, and YouTube, Good Spirit Bible
Camp offers something profoundly different. It invites kids outdoors —
horseback riding, archery, lakeside swimming, community building, and meaningful
friendships grounded in creation and God’s word.
This place matters deeply to families in
my constituency. I commend Good Spirit Bible Camp for steadfastly providing an
environment where faith is nurtured, memories are made, and young lives are
transformed.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Eastview.
Matt Love: —
Mr. Speaker, it’s a great day in Saskatchewan to finally repeal Bill 137.
In the fall of 2023 we watched this
deeply harmful and divisive bill pushed through by that Sask Party government.
They claimed that they had heard from thousands of people, yet they could only
produce 18 letters. Meanwhile our side received hundreds of letters from
parents, youth, educators, and community members urging this government to
scrap the bill.
We saw massive protests — hundreds of
concerned citizens gathering across the province in a loud, undeniable public
outcry. We even witnessed the unprecedented resignation of a Saskatchewan Human
Rights Commissioner, Heather Kuttai, a powerful stand against discrimination.
But the Premier and this government still forced ahead while the safety and
well-being of some of our most vulnerable kids was put at risk.
Well, Mr. Speaker, I’ve received a
petition from 18 parishioners of the First United Church in Swift Current
calling for their MLA and the Minister of Education to make right and repeal
Bill 137. I wonder, I wonder, with 18 signatures and their presence in the
legislature today, if you will finally make right, take his own constituents
seriously, and repeal Bill 137 today.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Moose Jaw Wakamow.
Megan
Patterson: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the coordinator of the Moose Jaw Downtown
Association, Shannon Simpson, who I introduced earlier, runs a very special
program that is partially funded by the city of Moose Jaw. That program is
called Helping Hands. This program provides individuals in recovery with the
opportunity to contribute by keeping our downtown Moose Jaw streets clean from
garbage or anything else our prairie winds have blown in that shouldn’t be
there.
Workers are provided an honorarium for
their effort. The benefits are beyond financial, though. Workers are expected
to be accountable and given a sense of purpose. This sense of purpose supports
their recovery and gives them hope for their future. The city and our downtown
businesses also benefit, as many tourists have commented on just how clean our
city is. And this gives tourists the best possible impression of our notorious
city and keeps them coming back.
The results of this program are
outstanding. This program has led to 70 per cent of the workers obtaining
full-time employment and allowing them to transition off of social supports.
I want to thank Shannon, the city of
Moose Jaw, and the Downtown Moose Jaw Association for their commitment to
ensuring our historic downtown thrives while enabling those in recovery to take
steps toward living the life they aspire to. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Provincial Secretary.
Hon. Jamie
Martens: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This week we celebrate Multicultural Week. This is done
to recognize and honour Saskatchewan as the first province in the country to
pass multiculturalism legislation in The Multiculturalism Act. This year
the Multicultural Council of Saskatchewan is marking the 50th anniversary. Each
year they organize Multicultural Week and publicize events in celebration of
our province’s diverse culture and ethnic backgrounds.
At the heart of these events in
Saskatchewan, Multicultural Week Honours Awards. Now this year this event will
take place Saturday, November 22nd with the Lieutenant Governor of Saskatchewan
at the Conexus Arts Centre. These awards are presented to very deserving
individuals who have made an impact in our province through their work and
leadership in support of multiculturalism.
Some of those nominees are here with us
in the gallery, and today I would like to take this opportunity to congratulate
them — Ricardo Arisnabarreta, Mohana Das, Rena Farajova, Carter Jessop, and
Chidinma Favour Anosike — for their nominations in these prestigious awards.
We know from the province’s motto —
“from many peoples, strength” — that our diversity makes us stronger, and we
continue to support the ongoing work of the Multicultural Council of
Saskatchewan. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — Just
before question period, just a ruling on a point of order from yesterday.
Yesterday, on
Wednesday, November the 19th, 2025 the Deputy Government House Leader rose on a
point of order, alleging that during question period the member of Regina
Northeast yelled across the floor, “You cannot be trusted.” I committed to
retrieving the record. The record has been reviewed, and I am prepared to rule
on the matter.
Voices can be
heard on the video record, and the alleged comment is not discernible. Further,
after providing the opportunity to apologize for unparliamentary language, no
member came forward. Members know that accusing other hon. members of being
untrustworthy is unparliamentary and out of order. In this case there is not
sufficient evidence to support the point of order. Therefore I must rule that
the point of order is not well taken.
But I do want
to say, you know, we all grew up in Saskatchewan, many of us. Some of us came
from other cultures, other backgrounds. We all learned what is decorum, what is
honour, what’s respect, what’s expected from children let alone from adults.
And I don’t mean to sound, you know, like I’m not friends . . .
We’re all friends. We’re all peers.
[10:45]
But some of
the things that get said on either side, you know, people take them home.
People read clips on social media, and offences can start. So I would ask that
it’s a very simple thing in future to know what you’ve said, to apologize
before a point of order. We have rules. If we need to follow the rules, we
follow the rules. But please, let’s show the province what kind of people
they’ve elected, what kind of hon. members sit in every one of these chairs.
And let’s use this opportunity to have healthy debate without using
unparliamentary language, actions, and otherwise. So thank you so much.
With that,
we’ll start question period.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the Opposition House
Leader.
Nicole Sarauer: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, after 18 years
of this Sask Party government, people in Saskatchewan face higher financial
anxiety than anywhere else in Canada. So many people in this province are
struggling to pay their rent and put food on the kitchen table. Some have been
forced to turn to Social Services for emergency shelter.
Does the Premier think people relying on
his government for shelter should be forced to live in deplorable conditions?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Finance.
Hon. Jim
Reiter: —
Mr. Speaker, we recognize the effect that inflation is having on citizens of
Saskatchewan, citizens of this country, and across the world, Mr. Speaker. It’s
putting pressure on grocery bills, and it’s putting pressure on housing, Mr.
Speaker. But we need to remember Saskatchewan is the most affordable province
in the country to live in, Mr. Speaker.
On the rental side, for housing, Mr.
Speaker, rents have been increasing, but they’re the lowest rents in the
country. We have a number of programs in place, Mr. Speaker, that we believe
are helping with that: the secondary suite incentive, Mr. Speaker; also have
the first-time homebuyers plan. Mr. Speaker, our housing starts as of last
month have been up dramatically, amongst the highest in the country. We believe
it’s working. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Opposition House Leader.
Nicole Sarauer: —
Mr. Speaker, not even close to the question that I asked. The reality is,
people in Saskatchewan are struggling, and that question was to the Premier.
Mr. Speaker, this week we exposed that
the Sask Party ignored warnings from officials — their own officials — to stop
placing Social Services clients in a Regina hotel that has cockroaches climbing
the walls, bedbug-infested mattresses, and drug deals occurring in plain sight.
The Minister of Social Services admitted yesterday that people are still being
put up in that very hotel.
Mr. Speaker, is this what the Premier
thinks helping desperate people looks like?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Social Services.
Hon. Terry
Jenson: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And with regards to the Coachman Inn — that is the
hotel that is in question here, Mr. Speaker — the Coachman is used as an
absolute last resort. It is on the list, Mr. Speaker. It remains open. It’s
passed its last public health inspection, so it is still a going concern in the
city of Regina.
With that said, Mr. Speaker, Ministry of
Social Services works with every individual that comes to our ministry in a
time of crisis. We will find that individual some shelter, put a roof over
their head while we work with them to get them longer term, stable housing, Mr.
Speaker. Under no circumstances will we leave an individual in the cold. That
is the irresponsible thing to do, Mr. Speaker, and this ministry takes this
extremely seriously.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Opposition House Leader.
Nicole Sarauer: —
Mr. Speaker, let’s be very clear. This is not who we are. This is Saskatchewan.
We care about each other. People staying at this hotel report to CTV literally
being eaten by bedbugs as they sleep, and there’s footage of cockroaches
climbing the walls. I have been in this hotel myself visiting constituents. I
have seen the conditions with my own eyes.
If the minister won’t do his job and cut
ties with this hotel, will the Premier step in right now and put a stop to this
inhumane treatment of Saskatchewan people turning to his government for help?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Social Services.
Hon. Terry
Jenson: —
Mr. Speaker, as I answered in the previous question, this is something that we
take extremely seriously. When it comes to individuals and their safety and
making sure that they are not left to their own devices out on the streets,
that is the responsible thing to do, Mr. Speaker.
Our ministry works with a number of
hotels in Regina. Depending on the vacancies at that particular day, Mr.
Speaker, we try to and attempt to house individuals in hotels that are on our
list — whether it be the eight rooms that we have blocked or, if those are
already in use, we have a three-quote process, Mr. Speaker.
If there are no vacancies in Regina,
this hotel is used as the absolute last resort because it’s either that or
being out on the streets. And we will not leave anybody on the streets, Mr.
Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Wascana Plains.
Brent Blakley: —
Mr. Speaker, this is such deplorable treatment of Saskatchewan people. We’re
supposed to care for our neighbours. The Sask Party forgot that somewhere over
the last 18 years. Not only is this government mistreating people turning to
them for help, but they’re paying tons of money for their mismanagement as
well. Today we’re releasing a contract for more than a million dollars paid to
two hotels to house homeless people and those on social services. And those are
just two that we’re aware of.
Why can’t this minister deliver on
actually getting those people real housing and save Saskatchewan taxpayers some
money in the process?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Social Services.
Hon. Terry
Jenson: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. You know, the Ministry of Social Services, we work with
a number of hotel providers in Regina, Saskatoon, and really throughout the
province, to provide immediate assistance to families and to individuals, to
children who are in crisis and in need of immediate support, Mr. Speaker.
You know, when it comes to balancing
cost-effectiveness, safety, and availability when securing hotel rooms, Mr.
Speaker, we do have the blocked rooms in Regina and Saskatoon. We also have a
three-quote process that our ministry does on a regular basis to ensure that we
are getting the best value for the ratepayers of this province as well as
providing a safe place for these individuals to go in crisis, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Wascana Plains.
Brent Blakley: —
Mr. Speaker, talk about cost-effectiveness. There’s more than 2,000 vacant
affordable housing units in this province. The government refuses to fix them.
They would rather dole out millions to hotels. And as we’ve uncovered, at least
one of those hotels is downright disgusting. It’s pathetic really. Is this what
the minister considers a housing strategy?
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize
the Minister of Social Services.
Hon. Terry
Jenson: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And when it comes to strategies, we just released
yesterday our provincial approach to homelessness, Mr. Speaker. This is a $20 million
renewal and expansion of the foundational funding that was done in 2023 of $40.2 million,
Mr. Speaker.
This government has invested $98 million
to date in this area. This is investments that are going to protect the people
that need it most, Mr. Speaker. This is ensuring that we have additional
supportive housing, Mr. Speaker. This is ensuring that we have enhanced shelter
spaces. This is also making sure that we have complex-needs facilities in
Saskatoon and Regina and soon to be in other places around the province, Mr.
Speaker.
So when it comes to keeping people safe
in this province, this is a government, Mr. Speaker, that is going to do that
work and we are going to do it well. And we are going to keep partnering with
our Indigenous and community partners as well as our municipalities while we do
that work, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Northeast.
Jacqueline Roy: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Sask Party government has driven rural health care
into the ground. They pushed through a dangerous new policy to keep ERs
[emergency room] open even when they are not properly staffed. And I fear, as
someone who worries about women’s health care, let’s say a woman has a
postpartum hemorrhage after birth — which is the number one cause of death —
turns up at an ER and finds no physician on site. She doesn’t have 10 minutes,
30 minutes, 40, 60, to wait.
Does the minister realize that a woman
could very well die before a doctor even shows up at that building?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this is a government that is going to put
patients first each and every single day. And if the member opposite from Walsh
Acres hadn’t ripped up his memo yesterday, he could have provided it to the
member from Regina Northeast so she could clearly see what the policy states,
Mr. Speaker. For a rural emergency room to operate, there needs to be physician
coverage, Mr. Speaker. There needs to be at least two nursing staff in place,
Mr. Speaker, and there needs to be lab services, Mr. Speaker.
How the NDP [New Democratic Party], Mr.
Speaker, have characterized this debate over the last couple of weeks has been
disappointing, Mr. Speaker.
Again, we’re going to continue putting
patients first and finding innovations to make sure that care is available
closer to home for every patient in this province.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Northeast.
Jacqueline Roy: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have indeed looked at that memo, and it says it can
stay open with only one registered nurse on site.
So let’s back up to the pregnancy itself
— a critical time for health care to be there for women because there could be
fetal distress, umbilical cord problems, or an obstructed labour . . .
[inaudible interjection] . . . Hilarious. I can’t, I can’t fathom how
the government is listing an ER as open when no life-saving operations could be
performed on a pregnant mother.
What does the minister expect rural
women to do? Do they book a hotel in the city for weeks or months while they
wait to give birth?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I’ve said it in the House several times,
and I’ll say it again. I think we should all be very proud in this province of
the highly trained health care professionals that we have working in our rural
facilities right across the province. Mr. Speaker, whether they’re an RN
[registered nurse] or an LPN [licensed practical nurse] or an EMS [emergency
medical services] individual or a physician, Mr. Speaker, we have some
excellent health care providers that are keeping our rural health care
facilities open and keeping access to patients right across the province.
Again, if a patient presents that
they’re not able to handle at that specific facility, there’s processes in
place to ensure that that patient is moved to a facility where they can receive
the right care at the right time, Mr. Speaker. Again, we will always put
patients first.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Walsh Acres.
Jared Clarke: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Now the Sask Party has promised and failed to build a
hospital in Yorkton for 18 years now. They’re taking Yorkton for granted.
There’s no mention of Yorkton in the Throne Speech this year. But hey, at least
the Health minister made a video last night talking about maybe building a
hospital in the future some time.
The project has been studied to death.
It is time to get it done. Why won’t the Sask Party finally build a hospital in
Yorkton?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Jeremy Cockrill: — Mr. Speaker, this is the government
that has committed to building a new hospital in the city of Yorkton, Mr.
Speaker. Every single time, Mr. Speaker, every single time this government has
committed to building a health care facility in this province it has been
built, it has been opened, and it has been staffed. The contrast could not be
clearer. The NDP closed 52 hospitals, and this government builds hospitals. And
we will be building a hospital in Yorkton.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
member from Regina Walsh Acres.
Jared Clarke: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Let’s go over
the timeline.
Formal
discussions for replacing the hospital began in 2011 with plans presented to
the public in 2012. The Sask Party made the community fundraise a six-figure
feasibility study, and then they shelved it. Thirteen years later, the Minister
of Health told media the project is still in the scoping portion but made no
commitments to begin construction. In July of 2025 the government announces to
develop another business case.
Gosh,
this sounds like the most ambitious plan this government has over there, Mr. Speaker.
How can the Sask Party defend their record of failing the people of Yorkton?
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
Minister of Health.
Hon. Jeremy Cockrill: — Well, Mr. Speaker, it’s good to see the
opposition actually talking about the city of Yorkton. I thought they forgot
where it was after the retirement of Mr. Serby, Mr. Speaker.
Again,
Mr. Speaker, every single time this government has committed to building a
hospital that hospital has been built, whether it’s Humboldt or Shellbrook or
the Jim Pattison Children’s Hospital in Saskatoon, Mr. Speaker. When this
government says we’re going to build a hospital, we’re going to build that
hospital. And the same will be true in Yorkton.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
member from Regina South Albert.
Aleana Young: — Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Now
yesterday, Mr. Speaker, I asked the Minister of Environment about his tired tax
on tires: an increase of 30 per cent, a tire tax that’s going to cost
Saskatchewan people $7 million. Instead of answering the question, he
shifted the blame to the Tire Stewardship Board. And now he’s telling us not to
worry because it’s not a tax, Mr. Speaker, it’s a fee.
[11:00]
Now,
Mr. Speaker, Saskatchewan people aren’t foolish. Does the minister really think
word games can get him off the hook for jacking up this tax by 30 per cent?
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
Minister of the Environment.
Hon. Travis Keisig: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s $1.50‑per-tire
increase in the fee. A hundred per cent of that fee goes directly toward the
Tire Stewardship of Saskatchewan which is spent on recycling tires all across
the province of Saskatchewan at the request of municipalities all across the
province because they did not want tires going into their landfills, Mr.
Speaker. Thank you very much.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
member from Regina South Albert.
Aleana Young: — Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Let’s
not forget that under this minister’s mismanagement, the tires are piled up so
high in Clavet you can see them from space.
But
we heard it again today, Mr. Speaker: it’s not a tax; it’s a fee. Now I’ve
heard this before. You know, it reminded me of Justin Trudeau trying to
convince people that it wasn’t a carbon tax, it was actually just a carbon
levy. We all know, Mr. Speaker, just how very well that worked out for him.
But
instead of semantics and retreaded Steven Guilbeault talking points, will the minister
do the right thing and scrap this 30 per cent tax increase today?
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
Minister of the Environment.
Hon. Travis Keisig: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. A $1.50‑per-tire
fee increase to assist the Tire Stewardship of Saskatchewan to make sure tires
are recycled all across the province, keep them out of our municipal landfills,
and encourage recycling all across the province. Thank you very much, Mr.
Speaker.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
member from Saskatoon Churchill-Wildwood.
Keith Jorgenson: — Thank you so much, Mr. Speaker. Mr.
Speaker, many grade 12 students who came to Saskatchewan fleeing the war in
Ukraine are thinking about their future, Mr. Speaker. They need to start
applying to universities right now, Mr. Speaker. Many of those students want to
study here in Saskatchewan, and they have absolutely no idea if they’re going
to be able to afford it, Mr. Speaker. I’ve talked to multiple grade 12 students
who are planning on going back to Ukraine, a war zone, because they don’t know
if they can afford to study here, a place that they’ve lived for years.
Now,
Mr. Speaker, I want to set the record straight. The CUAET [Canada-Ukraine
Authorization for Emergency Travel] visa expires in March of 2029. That is over
three years from now. Why won’t the Sask Party simply commit to funding
domestic tuition rates for all Ukrainian students who came to Saskatchewan?
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
Minister of Advanced Education.
Hon. Ken Cheveldayoff: — Thank you very much for the question.
And I’ll say it again and I’ve said it before in this House: no government
across the country — or in the world, frankly — has done more to assist the
Ukrainian people as they come here, as they make their lives in Saskatchewan,
and as they study in Saskatchewan.
We
have been here with a program that is unique in this country to help on the
tuition side. We will continue to be there. There’s no cancellation of anything
at the provincial level. We continue to talk to our federal counterparts. Yes,
there is a program that is coming to an end on March 31st, 2026, and you know,
certainly we’re going to be in discussions with them.
But
at the end of the day, we’re going to consult with the Ukrainian Canadian
Congress. We’re going to consult with the Saskatchewan Ukrainian
representatives, as I’ve had discussions earlier this week with them. We’ll
continue to do that. And again we’ll continue to put Saskatchewan students
first and Ukrainian students first that reside in Saskatchewan. Thank you.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
member from Saskatoon Churchill-Wildwood.
Keith Jorgenson: — Mr. Speaker, this is just plain wrong.
The CUAET visa expires in March of 2029. I will send the member opposite a link
so he can see that it expires three years from now. There is absolutely no
reason to talk to federal counterparts.
Just
yesterday, 26 people were killed in the city of Chernobyl — civilians. This is
a provincial program. He could make the decision today. It makes no sense why
these young people who have lived here for years have to pay a higher tuition
than refugees.
Why
doesn’t the minister just fix this today so these young people can have
certainty about their future?
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
Minister of Advanced Education.
Hon. Ken Cheveldayoff: — CUAET is a federal program, but you
know, I would challenge the member opposite. There is always reasons to talk to
the federal government. They were involved in this program at the beginning.
The CUAET’s program gave us a list of individuals that were eligible for the
program.
But
again, we’re going to look at this. We’re going to examine all options. We’re
going to consult with the Ukrainian people of Saskatchewan. We’re going to look
at their recommendations. I’ve committed to them to do that. And you know, work
is under way, and again we’ll ensure that those students have every opportunity
to thrive in Saskatchewan.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
member from Saskatoon Silverspring.
Hugh Gordon: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker,
for days we have called on this Minister of Mental Health and Addictions to
release the number of people on the wait-list for treatment, and the wait times
for getting off a wait-list and into a treatment space, but for days she’s
refused to release the numbers.
In
Saskatoon the fire department issued a drug alert yesterday due to the high
number of overdoses that are resistant to naloxone. It’s time for the minister
to release their numbers, and as minister she absolutely must know. How many
people are on the wait-list for treatment, and how long are people waiting to
get access to care?
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
Minister of Mental Health and Addictions.
Hon. Lori Carr: — Well thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think as
we talk about this serious issue in the House, Mr. Speaker, the member opposite
made a really good point. These are very dangerous drugs that are out on these
streets that are affecting the citizens of Saskatchewan. And he mentioned the
drug alerts program that we have. What that does is it actually sends a memo
out when we become aware of illegal substances that are out there on the
streets hurting individuals.
What
we want to do is get those drugs off the street. And through the programs that
we are developing with the mental health and addictions branch, we want to get
them into a program, get them into recovery, Mr. Speaker, get them a space to
get them help so that they can actually get to a life where they can live a
healthy life in recovery, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
member from Saskatoon Silverspring.
Hugh Gordon: — Again, Mr. Speaker, still no answer on
the wait-lists. Now either she knows the numbers and is scared to tell the
people of Saskatchewan what they are, or as minister responsible she has failed
to look into it. Perhaps she could call a treatment centre today to find out
what those wait-lists look like.
And
while we see drug alerts in Saskatoon and Regina, why won’t the minister just
answer this question. How many people are on the wait-lists for treatment? How
long are people waiting to get access to care?
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
Minister of Mental Health and Addictions.
Hon. Lori Carr: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker,
helping people overcome their addiction and supporting recovery to save lives,
heal families, and strengthen communities is a priority for this government.
We
are moving towards a central intake system. It’s actually within our mental
health and addictions plan. This central intake system will be a very
coordinated effort that we will be able to work on. It’s part of the funding
that we are spending, actually funding that has tripled since the members
opposite had the opportunity to lead this province, Mr. Speaker.
So
with that central intake system, we will be able to track individuals better.
It’ll be a coordinated effort between all of our services — treatment centres,
outreach programs, in-patient, out-patient, virtual, Mr. Speaker. There will be
several opportunities for us to be able to do that under this central intake
system. It’s well under way, and we’re looking forward to it starting up.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
member from Regina Douglas Park.
Nicole Sarauer: — Mr. Speaker, Saskatchewan has the
highest rates of intimate partner violence in Canada. This has been the case
now for the 18 years that the Sask Party has been in government. Saskatchewan
is a rich province. We shouldn’t be in last place when it comes to protecting
women and children.
When
will we see a real plan from this Sask Party government to address intimate
partner violence in Saskatchewan?
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
Minister of the Status of Women.
Hon. Alana Ross: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There is no
place for any form of violence in Saskatchewan, and violence against women
affects every one of us. Our government remains dedicated to supporting
survivors and breaking the cycle of violence. We will continue to take action
through funding, programming, and legislation under the three pillars of
prevention, intervention, and accountability that address all forms of
interpersonal violence. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
member from Regina Douglas Park.
Nicole Sarauer: — Mr. Speaker, after 18 years this Sask
Party government isn’t listening to what survivors of intimate partner violence
are calling for. We need programs that change offender behaviour, stronger laws
and training, tailored services in rural areas, improved infrastructure like
internet and emergency transport to keep communities safe. And, Mr. Speaker, we
need preventative education back in our schools.
We
have the highest rates of intimate partner violence in Canada, Mr. Speaker.
When can survivors expect a real, concrete provincial strategy to address
intimate partner violence from this Sask Party government?
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
Minister of the Status of Women.
Hon. Alana Ross: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I have said
previously, our government takes interpersonal violence, violence of any type,
very seriously. And that is why we will continue to invest under the three
pillars of prevention, intervention, and accountability to combat this
challenging issue. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
Minister of Parks, Culture and Sport.
Hon. Alana Ross: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that
Bill No. 41, The Heritage Recognition (From Many Peoples, Strength) Act
be now introduced and read a first time.
Speaker Goudy: — It’s been moved by the Minister of
Parks, Culture and Sport that Bill No. 41, The Heritage Recognition
(From Many Peoples, Strength) Act be now introduced and read a first time.
Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker Goudy: — Carried.
Principal Clerk: — First reading of this bill.
Speaker Goudy: — When shall this bill be read a
second time?
Hon. Alana Ross: — Next sitting of the Assembly.
Speaker Goudy: — Next sitting.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
Government Whip.
Sean Wilson: — I wish to order questions no. 17
to 20.
Speaker Goudy: — Questions no. 17 to 20 are
ordered.
Speaker
Goudy:
— I recognize the member from Regina Douglas Park.
Nicole Sarauer: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Happy to rise
today and enter into the debate, and at the conclusion of my remarks I will be
moving the motion that we will have the opportunity to discuss. And I do think
it’s a good opportunity for us to take a step back and think about what’s
happened over the past year since this legislation was introduced — it’s been
just over a year now, Mr. Speaker — the effect that it’s had on the community,
the people of Saskatchewan, in particular vulnerable youth, and the
implications of the decisions that were made at that time.
And
the hope is, Mr. Deputy Speaker, that at the conclusion of this debate, that
members opposite will see the arguments that are being made by not just members
on this side but people across the province and across the country, that this
was a bad decision that was made, Mr. Deputy Speaker. It was a hurtful decision
and the wrong decision for government to make, and the hope is that government
then makes the right decision and repeals this legislation, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
There
are four particular topics that I want to cover. I’m going to try to hopefully
pay attention to the time so that I can at least cover a little bit of each one
of them. I know I have a few other colleagues who are going to be joining in on
the debate that will also be adding quite a bit of information on their side as
well.
The
first topic I want to talk about is the effect that this bill had, Bill 137, on
youth and in particular on vulnerable youth, Mr. Deputy Speaker, trans youth.
It’s a very, very, very small percentage of the population but an incredibly
important one, Mr. Deputy Speaker, and one that should be protected.
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One
thing that we heard concerns about at the time when the legislation was being
debated was that the passage of the bill would increase bullying and decrease
safety for these students in particular, Mr. Deputy Speaker. It would make them
. . . And they did feel less safe when the legislation was being
debated and then passed.
Since
then it’s been a year now, Mr. Deputy Speaker, and we have heard from families
that those fears were made reality. Not just during the course of that debate,
but since that legislation was passed, there has been an increase in bullying
of vulnerable youth, of trans youth in Saskatchewan that can be directly linked
to the debate and the passage of this legislation, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
As
you well know, we are leaders here, and the things that we do in this Chamber
and the things that we say in this Chamber matter. The passage of legislation
is the government’s ultimate tool to explain to the public what are our
priorities and what they see as priorities for the province, Mr. Deputy
Speaker. By passing this legislation, it was a signal to not just vulnerable
people but the population at large that the voices of these vulnerable youth
didn’t matter, Mr. Deputy Speaker, and the families who were working to try to
protect the rights of these vulnerable youth didn’t matter.
I
just recently, a few weeks ago, heard a story from a dad who has a trans
daughter who is 13 years old. And he spoke to me about his family’s personal
experience since the passage of the legislation and the increase in bullying
that his child has experienced over the course of the year, that there were
several years where his child was going through the school system and it was
never an issue in terms of how this child identified themself in the school
population. But after the passage of this legislation and with the rise in
public discourse as a result of the passage of this legislation, it increased
substantially the amount of bullying that this child was facing. And this dad
was of course devastated.
I
think one of the most basic things we should be doing here, Mr. Deputy Speaker,
is questioning ourselves and the decisions that we’re making and wondering
whether or not what we’re going to do legislatively will cause harm to
children. I think that’s one of the most basic things we should be doing. If
the answer is yes, we should be taking a step back and thinking if that’s
really the right decision that should be made.
The
other topic I wanted to make sure that I touched on briefly was the effect of
using the notwithstanding clause on vulnerable people, Mr. Deputy Speaker. We,
at the time of the passage of the legislation, talked about how problematic it
was to use the notwithstanding clause to encroach on the rights of vulnerable
people. The Charter of Rights and Freedoms was created to ensure the protection
of the minority against the majority.
And
you can see instances for sure where perhaps the notwithstanding clause would
be appropriate. There have been historical consequences where we have been
supportive of its use, Mr. Deputy Speaker. But when it is used to infringe on
the rights of vulnerable people — and in particular on the rights of vulnerable
children — we feel that’s problematic and we cannot support that, Mr. Deputy
Speaker.
And
since that legislation was passed and since that clause was used, what have we
seen since in the last year, Mr. Deputy Speaker? A floodgate essentially
opening in terms of governments throughout the country feeling more comfortable
using the notwithstanding clause for a variety of reasons, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
Once
you pull that escape hatch, it’s sure a lot easier to use against other rights,
Mr. Deputy Speaker. We saw it just very recently in Alberta, where Premier
Danielle Smith used the notwithstanding clause to infringe on workers’ rights
and order them back to work, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
This
is something we also heard about when we were talking about this legislation a
year ago — concerns that were raised at that time that, with the passage of the
legislation and the use of the notwithstanding clause, whose rights were going
to be attacked next, Mr. Deputy Speaker? And that was largely dismissed as
fearmongering by folks on the other side, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
But
now we see it today, just recently in Alberta. And we’re seeing it used more
and more frequently, to the point where one wonders if the Charter of Rights
and Freedoms means anything to governments of a certain political bent, Mr.
Deputy Speaker. And it’s alarming for folks. That’s for sure.
The
other thing I wanted to talk about was the other thing that happened during the
course of this legislation that was being discussed. And at that time — and
we’ve discussed it a few times; I presented a petition on it today — not only
were there restrictions placed on children being able to use preferred names
and preferred pronouns, but the government made a decision to remove all
third-party educators from schools, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
Now
I have been critic for Justice and Corrections and Policing for a long time
now. It’s been a decade, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I have spoken with a lot of CBOs
[community-based organization] who do this work, really great people who have
been doing it for decades: the sexual assault centres of Saskatchewan; PATHS
[Provincial Association of Transition Houses and Services of Saskatchewan]; the
Regina Sexual Assault Centre; the North Battleford sexual assault centre, who’s
recently had to change their name in the hopes that perhaps the government will
find them less threatening and let them go back into schools to educate
children, Mr. Deputy Speaker. The YMCA is another great example.
All
of these third-party educators, Mr. Deputy Speaker, have gone into our schools
for decades to teach children topics like consent, like healthy relationships,
like sexual abuse prevention. I think we should all be supportive of having the
children of Saskatchewan learn what a healthy relationship is. And sadly
enough, but the reality is not every child in Saskatchewan can look at their
home as an example. Sometimes this needs to be learned somewhere else, and
those children certainly are not going to be taken to a library to hear this
from somebody, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
There
is a real important piece in preventing gender-based violence that includes
preventative education. You can look at any of the reports. You can look at the
government’s own domestic violence death review reports. They talk about the
importance of preventative education, Mr. Deputy Speaker, and this government
made the choice to remove that from the education system. They said at the time
that they were going to work on creating a comprehensive curriculum plan,
something that everybody could get on board with, that could perhaps — I don’t
know — allow third-party educators back in or maybe . . . I’m not
sure what the plan is. I’m not going to assume.
The
reality is nothing’s been done since, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Any of the people who
have been doing this work for decades have not been consulted. And they have
asked. They have asked time and time again, please let us be involved in this;
we are experts in this; we really want to get a comprehensive curriculum in; we
know how important it is that children are learning this topic. But we still
see a government that continues to refuse to allow third-party educators in the
school.
This
is a public safety issue as well, Mr. Deputy Speaker. If there’s any concern
from members opposite about crime rates or policing or any sort of issue about
how we can be addressing public safety in Saskatchewan, you talk to police and
you ask them what their most frequent calls are. You can bet it’s going to be
domestics, Mr. Deputy Speaker. It’s gender-based violence, Mr. Deputy Speaker,
continues to rise in terms of calls in Saskatchewan.
And
again, how do you prevent that? Let’s try to prevent it rather than just
building a ton of shelters. Education, Mr. Deputy Speaker. It all lands on
education. So to have this government make that decision over a year ago and
still no change, Mr. Deputy Speaker, is incredibly disappointing.
But moving back to Bill 137 itself, one
thing I really wanted to touch on that I hope members opposite can also stew on
a bit, Mr. Deputy Speaker, is the fact that despite this legislation being
passed over a year ago — and I know my colleagues are going to go into detail
about the harmful effects of this legislation, and I’m thankful to them for
that — I wanted to talk about the litigation a little bit.
Now I’ve never been on government’s
side. They can correct me if I’m wrong. I believe we’re around budget
deliberation time right now, Mr. Deputy Speaker. And I’m sure there are many
members opposite who have a lot of things they want to put forward for their
communities, projects they would love to see get completed.
Every year — I want them to know — every
year hundreds of thousands of dollars are going to litigation for this piece of
legislation, Mr. Deputy Speaker. This is litigation that likely won’t even
finish before that legislation expires. I don’t know if members opposite
realize this, but when you use the notwithstanding clause, it’s not a
get-out-of-legislative-drafting-jail-free card. Every five years you have to
renew it, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
So this is going to come up as an issue
again. But in the meantime, hundreds of thousands of dollars every single year
is going into litigating this bill. Government won’t even give us the details
on how much it’s actually costing Saskatchewan taxpayers to litigate on this
piece of legislation, Mr. Deputy Speaker, which is interesting. You’d think
that they’d be so proud and confident of the fact that they passed this
legislation that they would be able to stand proudly in justification of how
much it’s costing to defend their decision to pass this bill and the litigation
that it would cost.
They claim solicitor-client privilege,
Mr. Deputy Speaker, but they’re the client. They can waive solicitor-client
privilege, Mr. Speaker. The Saskatchewan taxpayers have a right to know. And so
do members opposite, because if there’s something that they’re trying to push
that they’re not able to get through, know that there’s a lot of money sitting
right here that would be much better used in their communities, Mr. Deputy
Speaker.
With that, I’m going to move my motion.
I move, Mr. Deputy Speaker:
That the Assembly
calls upon the government to repeal the amendments to The Education Act
brought into force by Bill 137.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — It has been
moved by the member for Regina Douglas Park:
That the Assembly
calls upon the government to repeal the amendments to The Education Act
brought into force by Bill 137.
Is the Assembly ready for the question?
I recognize the member from Kelvington-Wadena.
Chris Beaudry: —
Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Today I rise, not just as a member of this
Assembly, but as a father, a coach, and someone who has spent most of my
lifetime in Saskatchewan communities seeing first-hand what strengthens our
children and what weakens them.
And the conviction that sits at the
centre of my heart is simple: family is the foundation of society — not
government, not political parties, not policies or programs, but family. If you
look across cultures, across continents, across history itself, you’ll see the
same truth reflected again and again. From Indigenous teachings here at home to
farming families across the prairies to cultures throughout Asia, Africa, and
Europe, children thrive when they’re anchored to their parents. Family is the
first school, the first sanctuary, and the first place a child learns how to be
in the world.
In Canada, where we welcome people from
every corner of the globe, you see something remarkable. You can have different
traditions, different languages, different faiths, but every culture places the
family at the centre. That tells us something. It tells us this foundation is
not political — it is human; it’s universal. Family is the top of the pyramid
of support and family is the bottom of the pyramid of support. It is the vision
and the safety net. Everything else sits in the middle — important but not primary.
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Mr. Deputy Speaker, this is not just a
cultural observation. It is grounded in science. It is grounded in the work of
Dr. Gordon Neufeld and Dr. Gabor Maté, two of Canada’s most respected voices on
childhood development and mental health. Their message is clear: children
thrive through the adults they’re attached to.
A child’s brain literally develops best
when it is close to the people who love them the most. The science of
attachment shows us that when a child is held, seen, heard, and guided by their
parents, their nervous system settles. Their stress response lowers. Their
prefrontal cortex, the part of the brain responsible for reasoning, emotional
regulation, and identity, grows stronger. Their resilience increases, their
confidence increases, and their capacity for learning increases.
A securely attached child learns not
because they are pushed, but because they feel safe. A securely attached child
explores not because they are forced, but because they know they can return to
the arms of someone who loves them.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, in traditional
families around the world this was simply how life worked. Children were at a
parent’s side during the most important years of their development. They
learned by watching, by listening, by helping. They absorbed values, identity,
responsibility, culture, and emotional maturity through their connection to
family. You did not need a program to teach belonging because belonging was
built into daily life.
Gordon Neufeld teaches that in
traditional societies children grew up with an unbroken hierarchy of
attachment. Parents, grandparents, extended family, and community elders formed
a protective circle around them. This circle helped children know who they were
and where they came from.
Gabor Maté’s work shows the same thing.
He reminds us that children’s brains are shaped most profoundly by the
emotional closeness and presence of their primary caregivers. When that bond is
strong, children gain the internal stability they need to explore their
identity. When that bond weakens, children look to peers, screens, and outside
influence for identity, which creates confusion and insecurity.
As a father of three young girls I’ve
watched this with my own eyes. As a coach I’ve seen the difference between
children who feel anchored at home and those who feel adrift. I’ve spent time
in schools, rinks, community centres, and homes. I see one truth again and
again: when children are grounded in family, they flourish; when they are not,
they drift.
This brings me to Bill 137. This bill
simply reinforces that parents are partners, that parents are partners in their
child’s education. It states openly what every culture has known and what
modern development science confirms: children need their families involved in
the most important conversations in their lives.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, in my constituency I
have seen incredible things happening in our schools. We have a brand new
school in Lanigan. We have a renovated school in Kelvington that’s bringing new
life to the community. We have a brand new school playground in Rose Valley
that families worked tirelessly to make possible.
These are not just buildings or
playgrounds; these are anchors of community life. These are the places where
our children grow, learn, and build friendships. And they are strongest when
families are part of them. I have seen parents fundraising, volunteering,
coaching, helping with homework, and standing up for their kids. Parental
involvement is alive, strong, and essential in my constituency. And Bill 137
honours that.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, I want to speak
briefly to what is actually contained in the parental bill of rights, because
there has been a great deal of fear, but not a great deal of clarity. The
reality is simple. This bill puts into law what most parents already assume is
happening.
It confirms that parents are the primary
decision makers for their child’s education. It ensures that parents can be
informed about attendance, behaviour, and academic performance. It allows
parents to access their child’s school file, to understand the code of conduct,
and to know when disciplinary action is taken. It gives parents the right to be
consulted about learning challenges, attendance issues, or concerns about their
child’s capacity to learn.
These are not extreme ideas. These are
the basics of partnership. The bill ensures that parents are informed before
any medical treatment is provided at school. Again not controversial, simply
respectful. On sexual health education the bill requires two weeks’ notice,
transparency about what will be taught, and the option for a parent to withdraw
their child if they choose. That is parental involvement, not parental
interference.
And yes, if a child is under 16 years of
age, the bill requires parental consent before the school staff begin using a
new gender-related name or identity. That is not exclusion. That is connection.
That is ensuring that people who love the child the most are part of one of the
most sensitive and emotionally complex areas of development.
These protections support families. They
do not harm children. They simply affirm the natural role of parents, because
when you follow the signs and when you follow the lived experience of parents,
it becomes clear: children do best when parents are included, not excluded.
They do best when their family is part of the journey. They do best when the
adults who love them most are at their side during the most sensitive areas of
growing up.
Dr. Neufeld warns of peer orientation,
the idea that children look to peers rather than parents, for guidance and
identity. When this happens, children become more anxious, more confused, and
more vulnerable to outside pressures. Dr. Maté speaks about the deep emotional
wounds that come from disconnection. Trauma, he says, is a disconnection from
self that happens when children do not feel seen or supported by the adults
closest to them.
Mr. Speaker, identity is one of the most
complex and emotionally loaded areas of childhood development. We do not help
children by cutting parents out. We help children by drawing parents in. We
help them by strengthening the bond that holds them steady. We help them by
ensuring home and school work together, not against each other.
We must also address the concern that
some children do not feel safe at home. That is real and it deserves
compassion. But we already have child protection laws in place for genuine
cases of danger or abuse, and those laws remain untouched. They exist to
protect children who truly need intervention. That is the proper and
responsible way to handle those situations.
Repealing this bill would not create
safety. It would create confusion. It would create distance. It would create
exactly the conditions that Neufeld and Maté warn about. Children deserve
better, families deserve better, and our communities deserve better. I will
stand with parents. I will stand for the bond that shapes a child heart and
future more than any government decision ever could.
So today I cannot support the motion to
repeal Bill 137. I will stand with families. Thank you.
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the
member from Saskatoon Eastview.
Matt Love: —
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’m incredibly proud to stand in support of
this motion, just like I was when I stood in this Assembly and spoke for seven
hours straight over two days against this dangerous and harmful piece of
legislation.
And you know, at that time, when I
reflect back with our team on this side, it brought us together in a way,
because we knew that we were standing up for children in this province whose
rights matter and whose rights need to be protected. And that didn’t happen in
this space. And it was a shameful day in the history of this province.
And I want to begin by reminding this
Assembly — we have many members opposite who were not here — Saskatchewan was
the first province in Canada to bring in human rights protections. We were the
first. We were a leader in this country to protect human rights. And we were
the first province in Canada to take human rights away from a protected group
under the human rights code. That had never happened until it happened right
here in this room just over two years ago.
You
know, when this bill was introduced we were told that no child would be
impacted in a negative way. We were told that no child would be harmed. We in
fact even voted on that clause at one point. I’ll get to that later. And that
simply has not been the case in this province.
Families.
We heard a member opposite talk about families. Families are being harmed by
this legislation. Children are being harmed. And this government had every
warning sign imaginable to know that that was going to happen. The evidence
simply has not stood the test of time for why this government brought this
legislation forward.
It
certainly wasn’t an emergency, the first emergency debate this Chamber has seen
in nearly a quarter century. While we have hallway medicine and schools falling
apart. A waterfall pouring through the school in my community of Saskatoon. And
what was an emergency? Not safe learning conditions or not adequate health
care. What kids call each other on the playground. They called us back in here
for the first emergency debate in 25 years.
And
the evidence that they presented didn’t stand the test at that time, and it
certainly doesn’t stand up today. At that time the Premier said, the Premier of
this province, said that 100 per cent of his cabinet supported the bill. He
said that — 100 per cent. Well that didn’t stand the test of time, did it? Once
one of them was out of the grasp of the Saskatchewan Party government and
running for mayor in Saskatoon, he was pretty clear: he didn’t vote for the
bill because he didn’t support it. He said, “I think that indicates the fact
that I wasn’t supportive of the legislation in the way it was and the way it
was brought forward.”
Now
I’m talking about not just anyone. A long-time member of this Assembly, a
former MLA, a former minister of Education, a former deputy premier saying he
did not support. So it makes me wonder how many members opposite today do not
support this legislation. I’d sure like to know because they shouldn’t support
it.
So
that’s what the Premier said at the time. We know now that the facts are
contrary to what he said. And we also can look back at what happened at that
time that this debate was brought forward. We had, and some of the members here
might remember, the milk crate that’s on the floor of the Assembly to my left.
I brought in here 47 copies of a ruling from Justice Megaw in the Court of
King’s Bench. And I attempted then — I won’t now — to distribute those 47
copies . . .
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I’m disturbed by the fact that
yesterday we had a ruling from the Speaker in regards to props used in the
House. Merely the mention of the crate that sits on the floor is really
disturbing to me. And I’d ask the member that you take that crate and take it
out of the House before you continue any further in your speech. The speech
will not continue until that prop is removed.
Matt Love: — Mr. Deputy Speaker, the point is I
brought 47 copies of a ruling by Justice Megaw, accompanied with 47 copies of a
report by the Advocate for Children and Youth, an independent officer of this
legislature, that presented damning evidence of what this bill would do. Not a
single member opposite took me up on that offer. There was no curiosity about
who would be harmed by this legislation. They didn’t do their homework at that
time, and they haven’t done it yet.
This
is a dangerous bill. It will harm children. It has harmed children. It has
impacted families. I am happy to discuss either of those documents with any
members opposite any day that they’d like to. What they did do, what this
government did do, is they took a ruling from the Court of King’s Bench, a
justice of this province, that said that this policy has the potential to cause
irreparable harm to children, and they invoked the notwithstanding clause to
get around that. They had a justice say that this bill could cause irreparable
harm to children, and they pushed forward and they said, judicial overreach.
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They
talked down from one level of government to another about the overreach of the
courts and what they had to say about the potential for this legislation to
cause harm. And they’ve gone forward with extended legal cases that are costing
our province thousands of dollars.
Now
since that time we’ve also had the College of Law at the University of
Saskatchewan produce a report called Saskatchewan Speaks Up for Trans Youth.
In it, it says, Mr. Deputy Speaker, that:
Bill 137 is harmful and poorly designed educational policy.
Writers emphasize that Bill 137 would harm all students by undermining
inclusive education and removing critical resources. The policy was developed
without consultation with experts or affected communities, and contradicts
existing best practices in education and health.
This
is what the public, this is what experts say about this legislation. And if
members opposite would like to discuss that document, I am happy to have that
conversation any day, because the evidence is in. Whether it’s from the courts,
the Advocate for Children and Youth, the College of Law, experts in education,
experts in mental health, the evidence is in: this is a damaging, damaging
piece of legislation.
Now
one of the things that this legislation does, Mr. Deputy Speaker, is it also
removes third-party educators, folks who have for decades come into our schools
to teach not just about sexual health education but about abuse prevention —
abuse prevention — and the spread of sexually transmitted infections.
I
will remind the Assembly that our province has the highest rates in the entire
country of STIs [sexually transmitted infection] and the highest rates of
interpersonal violence. You would think with numbers like that, any government
would be interested in lowering them through education. They’ve gone the
opposite direction and they’ve removed these third-party groups from our
schools.
I’ll
point to the words of a leader in this area from the city of North Battleford,
who said:
I don’t understand what is so scary about teaching children
that their body is their body, and to tell an adult if someone is hurting them.
I don’t understand why people are so afraid of teaching children that.
That’s
a very good question, Mr. Deputy Speaker. But that is the action of this
government, to take that type of education to prevent abuse, abuse to children,
and remove that from our schools. To that I say, shame.
Now,
Mr. Deputy Speaker, I heard a member opposite talk about families. On this side
we support all types of families in our province. I grew up in a family with
one mom. I’ve got friends and families raising kids with two moms. We support
families with one dad, two dads, or zero dads. And yes, we support families
with children who are trans and gender diverse. And we’ll do that every day in
this Assembly.
Mr.
Speaker, to the members opposite I say, why stand on the wrong side? On this
side we will stand on the side of exclusion instead of exclusion. We will stand
on the side of curiosity instead of closed-mindedness. We will stand on the
side of safety instead of danger. And we will always stand on the side of love,
because it always wins out over fear.
So
to love, I say thank you to the Assembly. I’ll conclude my remarks and support
the motion brought forward by my colleague from Douglas Park.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Weyburn-Bengough.
Michael Weger: — Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I have a
confession to make. A few days ago I didn’t know as much about Bill 137 as I
should have. Today I stand here possibly knowing more than I will ever need to
know.
I
have reviewed the bill and the Hansard from October of 2023, and there
was a good and lengthy debate on the bill. Last night I also read Repeal
Bill 137: Saskatchewan Speaks Up For Trans Youth. This paper was a
partnership between the Social Innovation Lab on Gender and Sexuality at the
University of Saskatchewan and the MLA for Saskatoon Meewasin. I will always
respect a person that works hard, and I ask for the same respect in return. I
want the MLA for Saskatoon Meewasin to know that I respect him for the work
that he has put into this issue and for his representation of the 2SLGBTQIA+
[two-spirit, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer and/or questioning,
intersex, asexual, plus] community.
“The
government has taken away all of our children’s rights. The government doesn’t
care about our youth.” This is the message being sent by the opposition to
young people in Saskatchewan. And the real unfortunate part of this is that
some of these young people are vulnerable and dealing with complex adolescent
issues. The last thing they need at this difficult time in their life is
something else to fear. They don’t need to be told that their government is out
to get them.
These
children need to know that their government actually wants to ensure their
parents will be informed and involved in their education, in their life
decisions. And when that happens, our children will do better. Mr. Deputy
Speaker, our students are our future.
So
let’s be clear on what Bill 137 actually is. Bill 137, commonly referred to as
the Parents’ Bill of Rights. It is a piece of legislation that clearly lays out
the rights that are offered to the parent or guardian of a pupil by amending The
Education Act, 1995. Bill 137 set out to codify parents’ rights relating to
their child’s education, and it did just that. The rights of parents or
guardians of a pupil are now set out in section 197.2(a) to (o) of The
Education Act, 1995.
Let
me summarize these rights that the opposition would like to have cancelled.
Parents have the final say on their child’s education. Schools give guidance,
but parents make the key decisions. Parents will get regular updates on how
often their child attends school, how they behave, and how they are performing
academically. Parents can meet with teachers and school staff to talk about
what classes their child is taking and how they’re doing in them. Parents can
look at their child’s official school records, including grades, assessments,
and behaviour notes. Parents can find out what courses are available and choose
which classes their child will take, including online options.
Parents
will be told what rules and policies the school follows, including how student
behaviour is managed. If the school is disciplining a child or investigating
something they did, parents will be notified according to the law. If a child
is expelled, parents can ask the school board to review the expulsion after one
year. If a child is having attendance issues, parents will be involved and
informed in addressing them.
Parents
will be included if the school is assessing the child’s learning ability, and
can request a review of such assessments. Parents can ask for their child to be
excused from daily opening exercises, like pledges, national anthem, or other
routines. Parents will be consulted before any medical or dental exam or
treatment is given at school. Parents will get at least two weeks’ notice about
sexual health lessons and can choose to have their child opt out by giving
written notice to the principal. If a student is under 16, the school must get
the parent’s permission before using a new preferred name or gender identity
for the child at school.
Now
section 197.4(1) addresses the use of a new preferred name or pronoun in more
depth, and it reads as follows:
If a pupil who is under 16 years of age requests that the
pupil’s new gender-related preferred name or gender identity be used at school,
the pupil’s teachers and other employees of the school shall not use the new
gender-related preferred name or gender identity unless consent is first
obtained from the pupil’s parent or guardian.
Now
the issue often raised with subsection (1) is that there could be a situation
where the child is concerned or staff at the school are concerned that the
conversation with the parent may not go smoothly. Well, Mr. Deputy Speaker, the
school will not just blindly out a child in this situation to their parents.
You need to read section 197.4(2), which states:
If it is reasonably expected that obtaining parental
consent as mentioned in subsection (1) is likely to result in physical, mental
or emotional harm to the pupil, the principal shall direct the pupil to the
appropriate professionals, who are employed or retained by the school, to
support and assist the pupil in developing a plan to address the pupil’s
request with the pupil’s parent or guardian.
So why is section 197.4 so
. . .
[Interjections]
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I’d ask that
members opposite would stifle the comments at this point in time. Questions
will come later. And let’s let the member from Weyburn-Bengough continue his
speech.
I recognize the member from
Weyburn-Bengough.
Michael Weger: —
So why is section 197.4 so important? I have two children in university, Mr.
Deputy Speaker, and two children still in grade school, with my son in grade 10
and my daughter in grade 7. Neither of my children in grade school are old
enough to vote, to drive a car alone, to consume or purchase alcohol or
cigarettes — thank goodness — or to legally change their name.
You know, a couple of weeks ago I had to
sign the consent form for my daughter to come on a class trip to visit me in
the most beautiful and most secure office building in the province. Why would
either of my children that are under the age of 16 be allowed to choose a new
gender-related preferred name or gender identity without my involvement?
Let’s consider my two younger children
for this discussion, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I know how tricky that age was when I
was a kid, and it has undoubtedly become more complicated for our youth these
days. At their ages, their bodies are going through changes. They’re trying to
fit in with different friend groups at school. They’re watching Snapchat or
TikTok videos or TV shows where they are told that they should do this or do
that, dress a particular way, act a certain way.
And I’m a busy dad. I’m not around as
much as I probably should be. What if I don’t pick up on the signs that my
child is questioning their gender identity? And what happens if there’s no Bill
137? I’ll tell you what happens, Mr. Deputy Speaker. My child misses out on the
opportunity to have their dad involved in the decision. My child misses out on
me telling them that I love them and I will support them no matter what.
Bill 137 allows me the right to be
involved in my child’s education and life decisions. But more important than
that, Mr. Deputy Speaker, it gives my child the opportunity to have me involved
in their education and life decisions. No child should miss out on that
opportunity.
When my predecessor, the member from
Weyburn-Big Muddy and also the minister of Crown Investments Corporation at the
time, spoke to the third reading of Bill 137, he ended his comments by
explaining that he could not support something for a fellow MLA’s family that
he could not abide by for his own family. Well I think quite highly of that
member, so it should come as no surprise when I echo his concern.
Repealing Bill 137 would take away the
parental rights that I have summarized, which are codified in section 197.2 of The
Education Act. These are the rights to be involved in your child’s
education, the right to be involved in your child’s life, and if it came to it,
the right to show your child how much you love them and will support them no
matter what.
I cannot support the repeal of Bill 137.
I cannot take away these parental rights. I cannot do that to you. I cannot do
that to you. And I cannot do that to you, as I do not want it done to myself.
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the
member from Regina Walsh Acres.
Jared Clarke: —
Thanks, Mr. Speaker. I wish I could say it was a pleasure to join into this
debate, but it is not. There is nothing honourable in this bill. There is
nothing honourable in what this bill has done to the LGBTQ+ [lesbian, gay,
bisexual, transgender, queer and/or questioning, plus] community in this
province, to trans kids in this province.
I used to be a teacher, grade 6‑7
teacher, in the formidable years of kids figuring out what their identity is.
And I’ve heard a lot today about family and values. And absolutely 100 per
cent, families should be involved with their kids and the decisions that are
being made. No question.
[12:00]
As a teacher, children thrive in school
when their parents and their family are supportive and are there reading with
them at a young age, supporting them, talking about important issues — all of
those pieces.
But that’s not what Bill 137 is about.
You have all of the kids in school. You have of that some who are 2SLGBTQ+
[two-spirit, lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer and/or questioning,
plus], and within that you have some who are trans. And within that you have
families who are supportive and in that, in the trans community, you have
families — a small, small, tiny number — who are not supportive. And that’s,
that is who this bill hurts, and that is who, when we were debating this bill,
who we talked about all the time, for the 40 hours. It was those kids who were
at risk because of this bill.
They want to talk about the fact, oh,
the principal will help the kids navigate the conversation so it goes smoothly,
or the counsellors will be there to . . . Oh, my God. Go into a
school. What is the ratio of counsellors to students in Saskatchewan classrooms
right now? It is dismal. We’re talking one counsellor to thousands of students.
This was my lived reality as a teacher
in this province, Mr. Speaker. So when your student was struggling
. . . I had students — not around their gender identity, but in
crisis — who needed to talk to a professional, and I asked, “Can my student see
the counsellor today?” “No, they’re not here until next week.” That’s the
reality in schools. So this notion that, oh, the professionals are there to
help navigate this, is . . . I can’t, Mr. Speaker.
I recently attended a rally in Regina
protesting Bill 137. There were some heartbreaking stories there, Mr. Speaker,
about the impacts that this bill is having on children in this province. This
isn’t fearmongering. This is coming from those kids. Eleven-year-old kids, 12‑year-old
kids got up on stage and talked about how bullies have been emboldened by this
bill, how they are experiencing more hate as a trans kid, as a nonbinary kid,
as a gay kid now than before. That’s not hyperbole. This is coming out of the
mouths of the kids who are most impacted by this bill. And for this government
to just be like, oh, nothing’s going wrong, it’s fine, is just . . .
But
what about the houses that aren’t safe? If all houses are safe in this
province, then why do we have child protective services? If all houses and
homes in this province are safe, why do we have foster parents in this
province? Why do we have the Kids Help Phone in this province? Why do we have
Lulu’s Lodge in this city?
We
talked about this at length. When we were having the emergency sitting, members
from Lulu’s Lodge came and sat up here in this gallery. Lulu’s Lodge is a home,
a homeless shelter for queer youth who have been kicked out of their house
because of their gender identity or sexuality. Kicked out of their house.
I
remember hearing a story from a queer youth who told me that when their dad
found out about their gender identity, they had 15 minutes to get out of the
house before they thought they were going to be hurt physically. That young
person never went home again. I wonder if the principal of the school could
have helped smooth that conversation over. What about those youth? That’s who
Bill 137 targets. Those are the kids that we’re concerned about who
are . . .
I’ve
got two minutes. So many things to say, Mr. Speaker. When I spoke on this bill
in the emergency sitting, I spoke for three and a half hours. But I’m going to
just wrap ’er up here.
Suicide
rates are the leading cause of death among young people aged 15 to 24.
Transgender and gender-diverse youth are over seven times more likely to
attempt suicide. That’s not because of the fact that they are trans. It is
because of the stigma. It is because of the bullying, the bullying that has
increased dramatically because of Bill 137.
Go
talk to kids. During the emergency sitting I remember a mom sitting in the
gallery who had lost their nonbinary, 14‑year-old child, Bee. That child
had a supportive parent, and yet they still died by suicide. Today is the Trans
Day of Remembrance. This isn’t just going to be okay. This bill has real
implications for use in this province, and members on that side of the House
know that. This bill is hurting kids in this province. It needs to be repealed.
They have the power to do that.
If
this is about protecting, increasing parental involvement in a child’s life at
school, we put forward an amendment to the bill to strike a parental advisory
committee that would work with the minister. They voted that amendment down.
When we brought forward an amendment to protect kids in these vulnerable
situations where we knew that they were at risk, members on that side voted it
down.
Now
when I talk about all of this around trans kids, as I’ve alluded to before, we
often use the phrase, you know, what if this was your child?
All
I’ve got is five seconds. This needs to be repealed, Mr. Speaker.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from Batoche.
Darlene Rowden: — Thank you to the member opposite for
the suggestions. Mr. Speaker, Bill 137 supports something that everyone in
education already acknowledges: that parental involvement is essential. School
boards say it. Teachers say it. Counsellors say it. And parents certainly say
it. We all know that when families are engaged, students do better
academically, emotionally, and socially.
Parents
are the primary decision makers for minors, Mr. Deputy Speaker. That’s not a
controversial statement. It’s the foundation of how we raise kids in this
country. Parents carry the legal responsibility and the developmental
responsibility for the big decisions in their children’s lives. And strong
family involvement, as research consistently shows, is linked with better
mental health and outcomes in school. Bill 137 recognizes that reality and puts
it into practice in our education system.
Mr.
Deputy Speaker, our government believes that parents should be aware of
significant changes in their child’s life, and that schools should not be in
the position of making unilateral decisions that contradict family expectations
or values. Sensitive issues — and there are many in education — should be
handled collaboratively. And to be fair, many in education agree with this.
Some of the best examples of collaboration with families are driven by
teachers, administrators, and support staff who work hard to build those
relationships.
Trust
in our school system depends on open communication between educators and
families, Mr. Speaker. Even when intentions are good, any policy that keeps
parents in the dark risks eroding that trust. Bill 137 creates transparent
processes so families are treated equally, expectations are clear, and
confusion is minimized.
And,
Mr. Speaker, there was confusion before Bill 137. Parents didn’t always know
what information they were entitled to, and staff didn’t always know how to
respond. These amendments brought clarity.
When
students are working through questions about identity, which can be emotionally
complicated, mental health professionals emphasize the need for a stable
support system. And for minors, that support system includes parents. It has
to. Our government agrees that parents should be included in these
conversations and supported as part of the team around the child.
At
the same time, Bill 137 recognizes that not every situation is simple. That is
why the bill includes safeguards for the rare cases where a student may face
harm at home. In those situations, Mr. Speaker, this legislation ensures that
school professionals step in, that proper reporting takes place, and the
student does not navigate those circumstances alone. The bill creates a safety
net, not a blanket rule. It requires schools to involve counsellors,
psychologists, or other in-school professionals to develop individualized
support plans and ensure student welfare remains the top priority and that no
single staff member is left to make high-stakes decisions alone.
Saskatchewan
has now aligned with other jurisdictions that use opt-in systems for sensitive
areas of curriculum, such as sexual health and healthy relationships education.
We know every family is different. Values differ. Comfort levels differ.
Expectations differ. To respect that diversity, these amendments require
schools to inform parents of content being delivered, obtain consent before
participation, and allow families to opt out without stigma or penalty. This
enhances accountability, reduces misunderstandings, and respects the simple
fact that parents are partners in education.
To
support educators, Bill 137 also establishes consistency in who is permitted to
present to students. This prevents unvetted or ideological material from being
delivered to minors, and staff have a clear framework so they can focus on
teaching.
[12:15]
Now,
Mr. Speaker, we’ve heard the criticisms. Some argue that Bill 137 undermines
student autonomy or disproportionately affects gender-diverse youth, but the
facts simply do not support that narrative. First, social transitioning is not
prohibited under Bill 137. What the bill requires is parental involvement for
minors, the same principle that applies to many other important decisions in a
child’s life. Second, the bill contains explicit safeguards for students who
may be unsafe at home. It ensures they receive professional support quickly and
ensure the proper authorities are involved where necessary.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — Just one moment. Member from
Batoche, when you started your speech there was only nine minutes on the clock.
I just want you to know that there will be an additional minute as the debate
runs down.
Darlene Rowden: — Third, evidence shows that youth fare
best when they have stable, supportive adults in their lives, not secrecy, not
isolation, not fragmented communication. Bill 137 strengthens those supports by
ensuring families and professionals are working together.
Fourth,
this bill adds transparency. It does not tell families what to believe or how
to raise their children. It does not dictate values. It does not prevent
exploration or identity development. What it prevents is confusion,
inconsistency, and decisions being made without the people responsible for a
minor’s well-being.
Mr.
Speaker, there is another part of these amendments that speaks to civic
literacy and shared identity, requiring schools to display the provincial flag
alongside the Canadian flag as equipment becomes available. It is about
grounding students in who we are as a province and as a country. Many other
jurisdictions already do this, and it’s an important reminder that public
education is not only about academics; it’s also about preparing young citizens
with a sense of community and belonging. That is not something that should be
repealed, Mr. Speaker. It is something we should all support.
Education
is often where new challenges first show up, Mr. Speaker. Schools are on the
front lines of social change, mental health needs, shifting family dynamics,
and evolving community expectations. Bill 137 gives them clarity. It
strengthens communication, it ensures consistent governance across the
province, and it supports the people at the heart of the system — students,
families, and educators.
At
its core, Mr. Speaker, Bill 137 centres collaboration and developmental
appropriateness. And I want to repeat that because it’s important —
developmental appropriateness. We owe it to our students to make decisions that
match their stage of growth and to involve the parents who love them and care
for them. Bill 137 builds a healthier, more transparent, more effective
educational environment for every student in Saskatchewan.
For
those reasons, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I will not support repealing amendments to The
Education Act brought on by Bill 137. Thank you.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — The 65‑minute period has
expired. The 10‑minute question-and-answer period will begin. I recognize
the member from Humboldt-Watrous.
Racquel Hilbert: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On this side of
the House we believe in parental involvement in the education of their children
and the importance of parent choice in how
their children are educated. Policies that exclude parents from important
information about their kids erodes trust between schools and families.
Does the member from Saskatoon Eastview believe
it’s appropriate for teachers to withhold important information from parents
regarding their children in classrooms?
Deputy Speaker
B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from Saskatoon
Eastview.
Matt Love: — Thank you,
Mr. Deputy Speaker. I’m incredibly happy to stand up and answer this question
from the member opposite. And because she wasn’t here the time that this bill
was debated, I encourage her to go back and read the record.
But during the time of Bill 137 — actually
between when this policy was introduced and when we sat in the emergency
session — I learned extensively about what real parental engagement should look
like in schools. I contacted school boards, experts, academics, and most
importantly parents. And I learned about what a real parental engagement
strategy should look like.
I then proposed that to this Assembly and every
member opposite voted it down. So we talk about engaging with parents in a
real, authentic way. Yes, we had a plan to bring forward. They voted it down.
They should be ashamed of that voting record in this Assembly, Mr. Speaker.
Deputy Speaker
B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from Regina Douglas
Park.
Nicole Sarauer: — Mr.
Speaker, at the time of the King’s Bench court decision that Justice Megaw
ordered, the Premier responded on Twitter calling it “judicial overreach.” Will
the member for Weyburn-Bengough explain to the House how a judge granting an
injunction is “judicial overreach”?
Deputy Speaker
B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Weyburn-Bengough.
Michael Weger: — Thank you
for the question, Mr. Speaker. And lots of opponents of the use of the
notwithstanding clause like to talk about it being undemocratic. I’ll tell you
what’s undemocratic, Mr. Speaker. It’s having unelected judges invalidate laws
enacted by democratically elected legislatures.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Dakota-Arm River.
Barret Kropf: — Mr. Deputy Speaker, our government
believes parents deserve partnership in their children’s learning, not
exclusion. Children with parents who are involved in their education have
significantly better outcomes. To the member from Saskatoon Eastview: do you
believe teachers should be able to keep information about a child from that
child’s parents?
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon Eastview.
Matt Love: — These are easy questions, Mr. Speaker.
You know what? We debated in here for hours about what real parental engagement
should look like and what our kids deserve.
I’m
going to point to one piece of evidence. The Saskatchewan School Boards
Association, a couple years prior to this legislation, came forward. They did
consult parents and they asked parents what they were concerned about in
schools. They received 35,000 pieces of feedback from parents. Zero of those
were about pronouns. They were about things like mental health supports, which
are non-existent in our schools. They were about things like crowded
classrooms, supports that aren’t there for our kids that need them.
If
we want to engage parents, we need to do that in an authentic way so the real
voices of parents can be heard, trusted, and valued. That’s exactly what we
will always do on this side to make sure parental voices are heard in this
province.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from Regina
Walsh Acres.
Jared Clarke: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As I alluded to
in my speech earlier, trans youth are experiencing an increased amount of
bullying after Bill 137 was passed. To the member from Weyburn-Bengough: what
do you say to trans kids who are seeing an increase and experiencing an
increase in bullying because of Bill 137?
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Weyburn-Bengough.
Michael Weger: — Thank you again for the question. And,
Mr. Deputy Speaker, our government will always protect parents’ rights to be
involved in their children’s education. And we hope that that situation is
available to those children. They can have the meeting and discussion with
their parents. If that’s not an option, we have supports in the schools to
support the children faced with that situation.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Kindersley-Biggar.
Kim Gartner: — Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Parents’
voices matter. Their involvement and their choices shape the future of their
children’s education. Strong family involvement is associated with good mental
health, reduced risky behaviour, and improved learning outcomes.
To
the member from Saskatoon Eastview: do you believe parental involvement is
undermined when teachers are able to conceal information about their child from
parents?
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon Eastview.
Matt Love: — Another easy one, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
You know, when we were in this Chamber for 40 hours of debate, the government
members couldn’t bring forward a single case where what they accused to be
happening was actually happening. Not a single case where parents were left in
the dark. Because we trust and we know that Saskatchewan teachers are
professionally good at involving parents to ensure that the safety of children
is being protected. We know that schools are looking out for the role of
parents and the safety of children. This is what Saskatchewan teachers are
professionally good at.
Now
we did bring forward an amendment to ensure that parents would have a voice in
this province, just like they do in other provinces that have an office for
parental engagement. Members opposite don’t want that. They voted against it.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon Stonebridge.
Darcy Warrington: — Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I taught
a half-dozen nonbinary and transgender students in my career. In
each case, the student was fortunate to feel comfortable talking about this
with teachers, administration, and family openly in collaboration.
To the member from Kelvington-Wadena: why is
this government comfortable with infringing on the rights of children? And how
will this government handle the physical and emotional harm brought onto kids
by this discriminatory bill, if school staff are not permitted to do their job
as they always have?
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from Kelvington-Wadena.
Chris Beaudry: — Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. And thank you for
the question. Mr. Deputy Speaker, the bill does not harm students; it
strengthens the support around them. When parents, teachers, and schools work
together, children do better. The research is clear. Connected families create
healthier kids. Thank you.
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Canora-Pelly.
Sean Wilson: — Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. This government
believes parents should be involved in their child’s education. The NDP want to
keep parents on the sidelines. This law is necessary to ensure parents can be
full partners in education. Does the member from Regina Douglas Park agree that
having teachers be able to withhold information from parents undermines trust
between families and schools?
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Regina Douglas Park.
Nicole Sarauer: — Mr. Speaker, you want to talk about fearmongering.
We have the member from Canora-Pelly spreading fearmongering about teachers and
what they might or might not be doing in schools, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
Now we’ve been very clear. It’s another 75‑minute
debate where we hear the same questions asked again and again about what we put
forward that would have been real parental involvement in the schools, that
every single member on the other side voted down.
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Regina Walsh Acres.
Jared Clarke: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’m going to go back to the member from
Weyburn-Bengough. He didn’t answer my question in the last answer. What do you
say to students, to trans and nonbinary students, who are experiencing
increased bullying because of Bill 137?
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Weyburn-Bengough.
Michael Weger: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thank you for the question. And again I
would just hope that the students would be able to speak to their parents about
the situation and then use the resources that are available — their teachers in
the school, resource workers in the school — to address these types of
situations with them. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Cypress Hills.
Doug Steele: — Thank you,
Mr. Deputy Speaker. Our government trusts that parents know what’s best for
their children, and we stand with them in having a role in their child’s
education. We
want to enhance the transparency at the schools without telling families that
. . . to believe that discouraging students from being themselves.
Does
the member from Regina Douglas Park believe teachers should be able to hide
information about their children’s identity or well-being from their parents?
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from Regina
Douglas Park.
Nicole Sarauer: — I am glad we had enough time for
another member opposite to put some more fearmongering about teachers on the
record, by asking the exact same question that the other member already asked,
Mr. Deputy Speaker.
We’ve
been very clear, and the member from Saskatoon Eastview’s been very clear about
what we put forward — measures, real measures, to allow parental involvement in
schools that those members voted down.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — The 75‑minute debate period
has expired.
[The
Assembly resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion by Barret Kropf.]
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from Prince
Albert Carlton.
Kevin Kasun: — Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I want
to start off by quoting my colleague from Dakota-Arm River:
Every family deserves certainty of a paycheque. However in
2024 the oil and gas industry lost $1.6 billion in revenue because of a
lack of a pipeline to the West Coast, a direct threat to the 26,250 families in
that industry in Saskatchewan.
[12:30]
What
a privilege to speak to this motion, a motion that gives the time to speak on
the importance of supporting the development of a new Canadian pipeline to
carry the great province of Saskatchewan’s oil to the West Coast of Canada.
Mr.
Deputy Speaker, I want to talk about a pipeline that brings to the forefront
the potential to become the energy superpower in Canada’s oil and gas sector.
Today, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I will continue to outline the benefits of a West
Coast pipeline that will connect our resources to the world that needs them.
These
benefits bring forth an environment of job creation, economic diversification,
Indigenous involvement, and the safety that is involved in a pipeline. These
aren’t just abstract ideas or philosophies but tangible benefits that will
strengthen our province to provide us with the strength, safety, and security
that is ours.
Mr.
Deputy Speaker, this government will always advocate for creating affordable,
reliable energy security for the great people of Saskatchewan.
Our
government believes that pipelines continue to be the safest and most efficient
way to transport oil. Not idle words. Let’s take notes from the Fraser Research
Bulletin, and I quote:
When safety of transporting oil and gas by pipelines and
rail is compared, taking into consideration the amount of product moved,
pipelines are found to be the much safer transport method. Specifically rail is
found to be over 4.5 times more likely to experience an occurrence when
compared to pipelines.
Over 70 per cent of pipeline occurrences result in spills
of 1 cubic metre or less and only 17 per cent of pipeline occurrences take
place in the actual line of pipe, meaning that the mass majority of spills
occur in facilities which have secondary containment mechanisms and procedures
in place.
But
here are some fun facts: in 2024 combined value of oil and gas production was
13.5 billion. In 2024 the upstream oil and gas industry accounted for over
26,250 direct and indirect full-time equivalent jobs. Saskatchewan is the
second-largest oil producer and the third-largest gas producer in Canada.
So
far in 2025, oil production in Saskatchewan has been approximately 444,000
barrels per day. Our government is still on track to reach our 2030 growth plan
of reaching 600,000 barrels per day of production. There are over 160 companies
operating oil and gas wells in Saskatchewan. The current 2025‑2026
estimate for oil- and gas-related revenue is 1.21 billion, up
approximately 14 per cent from 2023 and 2024.
If
other oil-producing countries in the world adopted environmental regulations
similar to Saskatchewan, it is estimated that the greenhouse gas emissions from
oil and gas would be cut by 25 per cent.
Mr.
Deputy Speaker, our government will continue to stand up and defend the more
than 26,000 families and workers who depend on jobs created by the upstream oil
and gas industry. Our government will always advocate for creating affordable,
reliable energy security, not only for Saskatchewan but for all the people of
Canada. The ongoing tariffs by the United States have made other provinces
realize what we have known all along: that we desperately need an East-to-West
Coast pipeline.
Mr.
Deputy Speaker, it is disappointing to see governments outside of Saskatchewan
making decisions and policies which limit the ability to move oil through
pipelines. But unfortunately, Mr. Deputy Speaker, it isn’t just outside
governments trying to put limits on east-west pipeline. Even our own provincial
opposition party has proven in the past against this growth.
On
March 12th, 2014 the NDP stood in this House and voted against supporting, and
I quote, “construction for the Northern Gateway pipeline as approved by the
National Energy Board.” On May 3rd, 2012 the NDP, including the member for
Regina Rosemont, stood in this House and voted against calling on all parties
in the federal Parliament of Canada to unite in support of the Keystone XL
pipeline.
Mr.
Deputy Speaker, I know the opposition doesn’t like it when we bring up things
in the past that they’ve said in this House, but people have to know what they
said. The people of Saskatchewan must know the truth about this tired, old, and
out-of-touch, almost two decades in opposition party have stood on on these
issues and others, or how they have now accepted our position on many of these
issues — and we thank them for that. Whereas this government, for 18 years,
will stand firm on the policies that we have developed to keep our economy
growing. Because you know why, Mr. Deputy Speaker? Policies matter.
But
one more. The member from Walsh Acres posted on X on July 16th, 2015, “You
can’t address climate change by extracting more oil. The status quo won’t save
us.” Mr. Deputy Speaker, our government will continue to promote and advocate
for pipeline access, unlike the opposition who continually stand against
certain — certain — new pipelines.
Without
pipelines, demand for crude-by-rail transportation increases. When this
happens, our rail-dependent industries pay the price — industries such as
mining, manufacturing, forestry, and agriculture. In 2024 the lack of Western
Canadian pipeline access to tidewater cost Saskatchewan oil producers
1.6 billion in lost revenue. This also cost the Government of Saskatchewan
approximately 130 million in lost taxes, royalties, and other revenue. Mr.
Deputy Speaker, these royalties help to build hospitals, schools, and the roads
that serve the people of this great province.
Building
an East-to-West-Coast economic corridor would be a nation-building project that
would support a more competitive and resilient Canadian economy and would bring
us closer to our goal of becoming an energy superpower. This would ensure that
Canadians would have a reliable and uninterrupted supply of oil and gas for
their homes and would protect workers in the face of tariffs from the United
States.
Our
government is supportive of an economic corridor that runs from Alberta to
southern Ontario, an economic corridor that would never have been completed
under the NDP. Our government has signed an MOU [memorandum of understanding]
agreement with the governments of Alberta and Ontario to start a feasibility
study for the advancement of an east-west Canadian energy corridor.
Once
again, another Facebook quote from the member of Regina Elphinstone, and I
quote: “If our society relies on the destructive finite resources boom-bust
economy to fix income equality, well this is a problem, but it’s not a reason
to keep pumping oil.”
Mr.
Deputy Speaker, I will admit I’m a bit confused on a statement such as that.
Let me repeat just a part of that: a finite resource boom. That sounds to me
like finite funding for education. A finite funding for hospitals and roads. I
think that it means if they can’t nationalize it, leave it in the ground.
Mr.
Deputy Speaker, our government believes in giving Saskatchewan people the
environment to promote growth, to promote strength, and to promote security.
How do we do this? Mr. Deputy Speaker, we do this by reducing red tape. We do
this by advocating to our federal government to allow these projects to go
forward. We do this by continuing to bring policies forward that help, not
hinder, economic growth.
That
is why today, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I second the motion brought forward by the
member of Dakota-Arm River:
That this Assembly call upon the Government of Saskatchewan
to support the development of a new Canadian pipeline to carry Saskatchewan and
Alberta oil to the West Coast of Canada.
Mr.
Deputy Speaker, Saskatchewan families need this pipeline. I move to adjourn
debate.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — It has been moved that bill
no. 1 be now read a second time. Is the Assembly ready for the question
. . . Motion, I apologize. I’ll start again. It has been moved that
the motion no. 1 is adjourned. Is the Assembly ready for the question?
Pardon
me. The member has moved to adjourn debate. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly
to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — Carried. I recognize the Government
House Leader.
Hon. Tim McLeod: — Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I
move that the Assembly do now adjourn.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — It has been moved that the Assembly
do now adjourn. The Assembly stands adjourned until Monday. Do you agree?
Agreed?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — Agreed. Carried. The Assembly now
stands adjourned until Monday at 1:30. Thank you. I’ll get better.
[The
Assembly adjourned at 12:40.]
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