CONTENTS
Advocates Call for
Action on ALS Care and Research
Hunting, Fishing and
Trapping Heritage Day
Supporting Athletes at
the End of Football Season
50th Anniversary of the
Yorkton Kalyna Ukrainian Dance School
Celebrating Graduates
of Ignite Adult Learning Corporation
Museum Honours Retiring
Director and Curator
New Franchise with
Historic Roots Joins Junior Hockey League
Rural Health Care
Staffing and Provision of Emergency Services
Restrictions on Foreign
Farm Landownership
Overdose Deaths and
Treatment for Addictions
Supports to Ensure
Immigration
Bill No. 38 — The
Building Schools Faster Act
Support for Development
of Pipeline to West Coast
PRIVATE MEMBERS’ PUBLIC
BILLS AND ORDERS
Bill
No. 606 — The Provincial Health
Authority (ER Closure right-to-know) Amendment Act

SECOND
SESSION — THIRTIETH LEGISLATURE
of
the
Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan
DEBATES
AND PROCEEDINGS
(HANSARD)
N.S. Vol. 67 No. 12A Thursday, November 13, 2025, 10:00
[Prayers]
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of the Environment.
Hon. Travis
Keisig: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Request leave for an extended introduction.
Speaker
Goudy: — The minister has requested leave for
an extended introduction. Is leave granted?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Hon. Travis
Keisig: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you and to all members of the
Legislative Assembly, I would like to introduce several staff members of the
Saskatchewan Wildlife Federation who have joined us in the west gallery here
today.
I would really like to first welcome
SWF’s [Saskatchewan Wildlife Federation] long-time executive director, Darrell
Crabbe. Give a wave there, Darrell. Darrell has recently retired from his
position, serving more than 20 years in that role. Thank you, Darrell. Thank
you for your years of service and the work you have done for wildlife, for
hunters, and hunting advocates all across Saskatchewan.
Another recent retiree, Mr. Speaker, who
I am told who will shy away from being recognized, is Marilee Heron, SWF’s
long-serving executive assistant. Give a wave. I don’t have to tell any of my
colleagues in the Chamber here how critical a strong and passionate executive
director is for any organization, never mind having to keep Darrell in line,
Mr. Speaker. Marilee, thank you as well for your years of service. I hope you
enjoy your retirement.
I would also like to introduce a number
of other SWF members with us here today: Todd Smith, the new executive
director. Welcome to your legislature. Welcome to your new role. And I really
look forward to working with you in the future. Heather Bergdahl, SWF’s new
executive assistant. Darren Newberry, the director of habitat and lands.
Courtney Devins, the director of education. Courtney Piercy, the director of
fisheries. Blaine Olfert, the National Archery in the Schools Program — a great
program, Mr. Speaker, helping so many students take up the sport of bowhunting.
And Lyubov Horpinchenko, the accountant that keeps the money flowing in and
out, Mr. Speaker.
With the support of thousands of
dedicated members, the Saskatchewan Wildlife Federation plays a vital role in
conserving and managing Saskatchewan’s fish and wildlife resources. They have
been a valued partner to the Government of Saskatchewan, particularly to the
Ministry of Environment and particularly to this minister, on a wide range of
projects and educational initiatives.
I ask all members to join me in
welcoming to this, their Legislative Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Walsh Acres.
Jared Clarke: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. It’s an honour to join with the minister and welcome the good folks
from Saskatchewan Wildlife Federation. I want to echo his words in terms of the
valuable work that this organization does in Saskatchewan for conservation, for
hunters, for wildlife across the province.
As a former teacher, I’ve said many
times in this House that I participated in the FinS [Fish in Schools] program
in my classroom to have rainbow trout in there for a number of years. And we
also had the archery program at my school at Grant Road, and I got to
participate a little bit in that too. And I know the kids absolutely adored the
program.
So really amazing things going on at
Sask Wildlife Federation. I do want to join with the minister and thank Darrell
Crabbe for his long-time service to the organization and to conservation in
this province. So thank you, Darrell, and enjoy retirement. Marilee, I want to
thank you as well. Enjoy your retirement as well; you’ve earned it.
And I also want to welcome Todd Smith as
the new executive director to the Saskatchewan Wildlife Federation. I have
known Todd for a number of years, and just an amazing human being. He brings a
great background as a teacher, as an avid hunter. I know he’s been involved
with the pheasants, releasing pheasants in the Moose Jaw area for a long time,
and done a lot of great things educating youth in conservation and hunting. And
really excited about him coming into this role.
So on behalf of the official opposition,
I want to thank all of the folks from Sask wildlife for being here. And happy
Camo Day. Happy opening day of the hunt for whitetail on Saturday. So welcome
to your legislature, and I ask all members to join me in thanking Saskatchewan
Wildlife Federation for the wonderful work that they do.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Batoche.
Darlene Rowden: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. To you and through you, seated in your gallery, I would like to
introduce the Sunset Rangers 4‑H Club. November is 4‑H Month in
Saskatchewan and across Canada.
As a proud former member, leader, and 4‑H
parent, I am so pleased to introduce some future leaders and food producers who
learn to do by doing. They are project leader Michael Richards, and the members
are Sydney, Easton, and Hayden Richards; Alexander Best; Wyatt and Ellayna
Fremont; Khole Reddekopp; Kolbe Muzyka; Reece Fleishhacker; Riley Hyshka; Theo
Meckelborg; as well as proud parents Hope Fremont, Chastidy Fleishhacker,
Danielle Third, Stephanie and Paul Muzyka, Allie Hyshka, and Greg Fremont.
This club has over 30 members who are
developing hands-on skills through a wide range of projects, including
agriculture, vet science, light horse, small animal, photography, 3‑D
design, and practical living, which is a mix of outdoor living and home
economics.
So will all the members please join me
in welcoming this outstanding group of young leaders from Aberdeen, the Sunset
Rangers Multiple 4‑H Club.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Mount Royal.
Trent
Wotherspoon: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s a pleasure to join with the member opposite to
welcome the Sunset Rangers 4‑H Club from Aberdeen to their Assembly. And
their lead, Mike Richards, a pleasure to have him here as well. Alongside of
this leadership, he’s also an elected school trustee in the province, Mr.
Speaker. We’re thankful for his leadership there as well.
But to this 4‑H organization, I
want to welcome them to their Assembly, to thank them for their service and
their commitment and to their learning. And 4‑H of course is an
organization that goes back over 100 years. One of the oldest organizations
within this province, Mr. Speaker, and one that’s motto is “learning by doing,”
Mr. Speaker. One that gets deeply involved in agriculture and our natural
environment and in outdoor learning. And this club epitomizes the best of 4‑H.
And to these young leaders that are here
today: when we look to you we know the future is bright in this province
because of your commitment and learning through 4‑H, and because of what
you bring to your communities and to this province. It’s an honour to have you
here. And on behalf of the official opposition, it’s my pleasure to welcome
them to their Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Agriculture.
Hon. Daryl Harrison: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. I’d like to join with the member from Batoche and the member opposite
in welcoming the Sunset Rangers to their provincial legislature, Mr. Speaker.
The 4‑H motto, “learn to do by doing,” I think is exemplified by their
program at Aberdeen. And they’re well known for their leadership and their
community involvement and volunteerism. And nothing better than having 4‑H
as part of your life growing up. It builds a lot of character. And I would like
to welcome them and ask all members to welcome them to their legislature.
While I’m on my feet, Mr. Speaker, I
have a couple constituents in your gallery, Mr. Speaker: Pamela
Babbings-Bartlett — she’s the chief administrative officer for the RM [rural
municipality] of Enniskillen — and her daughter Abby, who is also 4‑H.
And Pamela is also 4‑H alumni as well. And her daughter Abby is the
secretary-treasurer for the local 4‑H club there. And I ask all members
to welcome them to their Legislative Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Churchill-Wildwood.
Keith
Jorgenson: — Thank you
so much, Mr. Speaker. I would like to join the Minister of Agriculture in
welcoming Pamela Bartlett and her daughter Abby to their legislature. Pamela is
a passionate advocate for rural health care. And I’m so pleased to have her
today in our legislature, and I would like everyone to warmly welcome her.
Speaker Goudy: — I recognize the Minister of Energy and Resources.
Hon. Colleen
Young: — Mr.
Speaker, I ask leave for an extended introduction.
Speaker Goudy: — The minister has requested leave for an
extended introduction. Is leave granted?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Hon. Colleen
Young: — Thank you,
Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, seated in the west gallery is my senior
administrative assistant, Dawn Keating, accompanied by some of my office staff
and friends of Dawn. Mr. Speaker, after more than 10 years in this legislature
building serving in four different offices, five
different ministers including myself, two premiers, Dawn has decided to retire
effective tomorrow, November 14th.
Dawn has worked as the itinerary
coordinator in Executive Council for Premier Brad Wall and Premier Scott Moe;
as the senior administrative assistant to ministers Wyant, Beaudry-Mellor,
Makowsky, Reiter, and now myself as the Minister of Energy and Resources.
Dawn’s strong organizational skills, knowledge, guidance, friendly demeanour,
and support have been immense in helping me navigate my portfolio, and helps
the office run smoothly every day. Above all, I have appreciated starting my
day with Dawn’s warm morning greetings and friendly smile. I must say, she also
has a wonderful fashion sense.
Replacing Dawn is Debbie Wintonyk, also
seated in the west gallery. Debbie previously worked as a caseworker and as a
senior administrative assistant in the former Corrections, Policing and Public
Safety office. Her fiery attitude and strong work ethic will serve our office
well. So welcome, Debbie.
I ask all members now of this Assembly
to join me in thanking Dawn for her 10‑plus years of public service, and
for being a good, kind friend and colleague to so many. Thank you, Dawn. We
will miss you, and wish you all the very best in your retirement.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Wascana Plains.
Brent Blakley: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. I would like to welcome a guest sitting in the east gallery. Mr.
Speaker, I welcome the bishop of the Eastern Synod of the Evangelical Lutheran
Church in Canada. The Eastern Synod consists of all the Lutheran churches and
pastors in Ontario, Quebec, and the Atlantic provinces. Bishop Carla Blakley
also happens to be my wife of 35 years.
I want to publicly thank her for her
support over the last year and for making our unique living arrangements work.
She booked her flight here about two months ago, saying to everybody she wanted
to be here for the Grey Cup party because she knew the Riders were going to be
in it. So I give her some credit for the team’s success. Love you, Sweetie.
Join me in welcoming Carla to her Legislative Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Education.
Hon. Everett
Hindley: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Just if the Assembly would allow me to introduce a few
guests here in the west gallery. First of all, apologies to my colleague, the
Minister of Energy and Resources. I also want to mention and thank Dawn Keating
for her service to the Government of Saskatchewan. The minister forgot one
important fact, which is that Dawn was a resident of Swift Current. And so we
managed to get her here.
And very grateful to have yet another
Swift Current influence here at the Legislative Assembly, and thank her for her
years in government in a number of ministers’ offices. And of course, as we
heard, in the former premier’s office as well, which is always . . .
There’s some stories to be told there, Dawn, I think, about some of the things
that happened in that office.
[10:15]
Prior to joining us in government, Nola
worked at city hall, working at the rec and parks department, but has been
working for us at the MLA office for quite a period of time. And I thank her
for that.
Her husband, Dave, also a great
individual. He has been many things: worn a hat as a youth pastor, volunteer
firefighter. He’s doing some other stuff in the housing sector right now, Mr.
Speaker. Both Nola and Dave are also, I would say, casual golfing buddies of
mine. Unfortunately we didn’t get our annual summer golf game in this summer
because I had something else kind of take precedence in my household.
Mr. Speaker, in addition to that,
they’re just great people. They have three grown kids. They’ve got some
grandbabies as well, Mr. Speaker. I joke that if either one of them were to
challenge me for the nomination they’d win hands down because they know more
people than I do, and they’re very well respected in Swift Current and
surrounding area.
And most importantly, Mr. Speaker, they
are deep, dear friends to me and my family, and I can’t thank them enough. So
thanks to Dave and Nola for being here today and for everything you do for me.
Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Eastview.
Matt Love: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. It’s my honour to rise and introduce a guest who’s going to ensure
that I’m at my very best behaviour today, Mr. Speaker. It’s because my mother
is sitting across from me in the east gallery. I’d like to welcome her to her
Assembly. And it gives me a lot of pride to say “her Assembly” because she’s of
course a new resident of Saskatchewan.
My mother, Jody, raised three boys in
Calgary, Alberta through the ’80s and ’90s, and went on to serve her community
and her family in a variety of ways, eventually moving out to Vernon, British
Columbia, to Kelowna to help care for family members, and build a career out
there. And this summer she moved to Saskatoon so she could be closer to our
family and to her grandkids. And you know, Mr. Speaker, I’m very hopeful that
with her one vote we might be able to hold Saskatoon Nutana next election.
She’s just a few houses outside of my boundary, but we’re still thankful that
she’s in Saskatoon, there to really get to know her three amazing grandkids and
to be a part of all the moments of their lives that she can while she’s here.
So I’d like to ask all of my colleagues
in the Assembly to welcome my mother, Jody Love, to her Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Justice.
Hon. Tim
McLeod: —
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you, I’d like to beg the
indulgence of the House for a few introductions. If I could, I want to join
with our Minister of Environment and welcome the folks from Sask Wildlife
Federation, many of whom are Moose Javians, and we proudly welcome them to this
Assembly.
One in particular, Mr. Speaker, is in
fact Darrell Crabbe who I want to recognize. Darrell and I sat on the Prairie
South school board together when I was newly elected. So for anybody who
doesn’t appreciate the way I do governance, you can blame Darrell, because I
learned everything I knew from Darrell.
Also seated in the west gallery, Mr.
Speaker, together with Dawn and Debbie, who were recognized, is one of the
ministerial assistants in Justice. And Michelle Chyz, I would like to welcome
here to her Legislative Assembly. Michelle has started in Justice in 2008 and
she’s been a ministerial assistant in a variety of ministries, Mr. Speaker.
She’s worked in Parks, Culture and Sport; Advanced Education; and Corrections,
Policing and Public Safety. Michelle loves spending time with her grandchildren
in Saskatoon. And, Mr. Speaker, there is no bigger Rider fan than Michelle.
Also seated in your gallery, Mr.
Speaker, is somebody else who I blame for me being here, and that’s my
constituency assistant, Jacqui Stephens. Jacqui and I worked together for over
20 years now, and only my wife has demonstrated a greater tolerance for me, Mr.
Speaker, than Jacqui. Jacqui and her husband, Kelly, are diehard Maple Leafs
fans, and despite that we’ve forgiven them. And I consider Jacqui and Kelly two
of my dearest and closest friends, Mr. Speaker.
And seated with Jacqui is her dear
friends, Harvey and Glenda, and I understand this is their first time visiting
this beautiful building. And I look forward to giving them a bit of a dime tour
when question period is over, Mr. Speaker. So if my colleagues would please
join me in welcoming all of these guests to their Legislative Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Walsh Acres.
Jared Clarke: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. To you and through you, it’s an honour today to welcome and introduce
two guests sitting in your gallery: Paula Trefiak and Benjamin Webb. These are
two constituents of mine and two amazingly inspiring people.
Paula lives with ALS [amyotrophic
lateral sclerosis] and has been an amazing advocate to try and raise awareness
of this disease and what it means, but also to look for solutions. And so she
has been, you know, instrumental as part of the global and national ALS
initiative in raising the profile and trying to move that initiative forward
and bringing that to Saskatchewan and making sure that Saskatchewan is aligned
with those initiatives. So I really want to thank her for the work that she
does.
Benjamin — and I’m going to speak to
both Paula and Benjamin in my member’s statement — but Benjamin recently did a
genetic test and found out that he carries the gene for ALS, which means he
will develop the gene in time. And he recently went to Ottawa and spoke at
parliament about one of the drugs that has worked so amazingly for his mom:
tofersen. This drug has basically stopped disease progression for Paula, but
this drug only works for 1 per cent of people suffering with ALS. It doesn’t
work for the other 99 per cent of the folks who are afflicted with ALS. And so
there’s lots of work to be done.
They are doing amazing work, and I’m so
incredibly thankful for especially Benjamin for using his voice as he has, here
and in Ottawa. I know they would love to have a sit-down with the Health
minister at some time to talk about how we can align things in Saskatchewan
around ALS.
But with that, Mr. Speaker, I’d like to
ask all members of the Assembly to join me in welcoming these two amazing
constituents from Regina Walsh Acres. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I’d like to join with the member opposite
in welcoming Paula and Benjamin to their Legislative Assembly. It’s always
great when we have Saskatchewan residents go to Ottawa and advocate on behalf
of the people of our province, ensuring that we have things in Saskatchewan
that we can be proud of.
You know, it’s interesting. Talking to a
couple of ALS patients in this province who I know about, they spoke about
Benjamin’s speech in Ottawa. So your reputation precedes you. They spoke of how
eloquently he spoke on behalf of himself and his family. And a true honour to
have him here at the Legislative Assembly today. If we’re not able to find some
time today, we’ll definitely make some time very soon and have a sit-down with
Paula and Benjamin and myself.
I’d like to ask all members of the
Assembly to join me in welcoming them to their Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Mount Royal.
Trent
Wotherspoon: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I want to join with the very warm recognition and
celebration of Darrell Crabbe in this Assembly here today. I certainly welcome
the Saskatchewan Wildlife Federation here again for Camo Day and into their
Assembly and to thank them for all their leadership in this province. We have
unprecedented natural assets in this province in hunting and fishing. And the
leadership that we see up in this Chamber here today really goes out of their
way to build those opportunities and build opportunities for this province as
the wildlife federation.
But I want to specifically thank Darrell
Crabbe for his incredible service and leadership as CEO [chief executive
officer]. I’m proud of his work as a member of the wildlife federation. I’m
proud of his work as a partner in the way he’d work to advance and work with
government and with us over the years.
This is an exceptional leader who’s made
his province a better place. And I wish him real well and many, many wonderful
hunting and fishing experiences into retirement, many happy days. I think this
weekend he’s told me he’s going to be out in the field for opening rifle
whitetail season. I’m not going to be. I’m going to be at a hockey tournament
this weekend. So, Darrell, please leave one for me.
I ask all members to join with me to
celebrate and thank Darrell Crabbe for his leadership and service to his
province.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from White City-Qu’Appelle.
Brad
Crassweller: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you, it’s my distinct privilege
today to welcome some grade 12 students from Bert Fox High School in Fort
Qu’Appelle. I ask you guys to give us a wave. They’re accompanied by their
teacher, Andre Boutin-Maloney, and chaperones Bailey Antonishyn, Brenden
Easton, and Rei Matsumoto. So we want to thank them for coming.
I look forward to getting together later
on and chatting with them and answering some questions. Some of their team is
away because they’re in Maple Creek at the senior girls volleyball provincials,
and so we wish them good luck there. And I’m looking forward to chatting with
you guys and having some ice cream. And I would just ask all members to welcome
Bert Fox to their Legislative Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon
Churchill-Wildwood.
Keith
Jorgenson: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wanted to recognize someone who came in a couple
minutes late, somebody who’s very special to me, my daughter Lily sitting in
the east gallery — Lily Jorgenson and her boyfriend, Pascal, who are back here
from the November break. They’re both back from the November break. They are
both students at the U of A [University of Alberta], and I would like everyone
to welcome them to their legislature.
Speaker
Goudy: — And I
would like to mention a friend I’ve got up in the gallery today, Murray
Carswell. Strangely enough, I was sitting here thinking, you know, he’s a
friend of mine. He’s a friend of Saskatchewan. But I’ve prayed with him a few
times in my office, and I don’t think I’ve ever said this about a person
before, but I think he’s a friend of God. This guy, he spends a lot of time in
prayer for us, for the province, and spends his evenings at Zoom meetings
praying for the people of this province. It’s hard work. I don’t know if you’ve
ever prayed for an hour or two, but it’s not, you know, something that’s like
doomscrolling. It’s really interceding and asking for peace in this Chamber.
I don’t know
if you’ve noticed him up there, but he’s here quite often. He’s been here
longer than a lot of the staff members that I’ve heard of before. And I said,
who is this guy? And as I’ve got to know him, I just want to thank you for
being here and working for us in prayer and blessing us all. He doesn’t have
favourites on sides. He prays for us all. So thank you again for being here,
Murray.
Let’s move on
to presenting petitions.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Southeast.
Brittney
Senger: — Thank you,
Mr. Speaker. I rise to present a petition to the Legislative Assembly of
Saskatchewan to immediately reimburse Regina taxpayers for the Regina Costco
deal.
The
undersigned residents of the province of Saskatchewan wish to bring to your
attention the following: that the city of Regina had to offer Costco a
$6.78 million incentive package to keep Costco at the originally proposed
location; that the city of Regina was forced to offer an incentive package
because the Global Transportation Hub, or GTH, attempted to outbid them; that a
sale to the GTH would have denied Regina the property taxes from development,
while forcing the city to enhance and maintain the roadwork services.
I shall now read the prayer:
We, in the prayer
that reads as follows, respectfully request the Legislative Assembly of
Saskatchewan call on the Government of Saskatchewan to immediately reimburse
Regina taxpayers for this Costco deal.
The undersigned residents reside in
Regina. I do so present.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Riversdale.
Kim Breckner: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. I rise today to present a petition calling for the Government of
Saskatchewan to repeal Bill 137. The undersigned residents would like to bring
to our attention the following: queer and trans youth are at a higher risk of
homelessness, self-harm, and suicide when denied access to safe and inclusive
learning environments; that Bill 137 directs educators to non-consensually out
two-spirit, trans, and nonbinary students under the age of 16 to their parents;
and that Bill 137 is in direct contravention of The Saskatchewan Human
Rights Code and the Charter of Rights and Freedoms as it relates to gender
identity and expression.
With that, I’ll read the prayer:
We, in the prayer
that follows, respectfully request the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan to
call on the Government of Saskatchewan to immediately repeal Bill 137 and
ensure that all 2SLGTBQI+ students are supported and protected in accordance
with The Saskatchewan Human Rights Code.
The signatories to this petition reside
in Saskatoon. I do submit.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Meewasin.
Nathaniel Teed: — Thank you very
much, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to present our petition calling on the
Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan to fix the crisis in our health care
system.
We, the undersigned residents of the
province of Saskatchewan, wish to bring to your attention the following: that
in the past five years, the health care closures across rural Saskatchewan
disrupted services for a total of 8,600‑plus days, and that for more than
4,000 of those days, those disruptions were to Saskatchewan emergency rooms;
that for the first time, an emergency room in one of our major cities shut down
due to short-staffing, Mr. Speaker; that Saskatchewan people deserve to have
adequate and accessible health care where and when they need it.
[10:30]
I will read the prayer:
We, in the prayer
that reads as follows, respectfully request that the Legislative Assembly of
Saskatchewan call on the Government of Saskatchewan to immediately address the
short-staffing crisis in our health care and work with health care workers on
solutions to improve patient care.
Mr. Speaker, the undersigned reside in
Regina. I do so present.
Speaker Goudy:
— I recognize the member from Regina Walsh Acres.
Jared Clarke: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. Today I rise to recognize three extraordinary advocates whose voices
are shaping the future of ALS care and research in this province and across
Canada. Paula Trefiak and Benjamin Webb of Regina, alongside Tre Archibald of
Elbow, Saskatchewan recently returned from Parliament Hill, where they
presented a bold and compassionate vision — a national ALS collaboration
strategy aimed at finding effective treatments for all people living with ALS
within the next decade.
Benjamin, a 17‑year-old student
from Winston Knoll Collegiate with remarkable courage, shared his personal
story with parliamentarians. He recently learned he carries the ALS gene just
three days after the approval of the drug tofersen, a groundbreaking,
gene-specific ALS drug that has halted his mother’s ALS disease progression.
His testimony was not only moving, it was a call to action — a call rooted in
hope, science, and the unwavering love of a family determined to change the
course of this disease.
Together Paula and Benjamin are here
today to advocate for a provincial strategy, supported by the ALS Society of
Saskatchewan, that aligns with national and global efforts. Mr. Speaker, I ask
all members to join me in thanking these advocates for their leadership, their
vision, and their commitment to ensuring that Saskatchewan is part of a
collaborative, research-driven future, one where ALS is no longer a terminal
diagnosis but a treatable condition. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Kelvington-Wadena.
Chris Beaudry: — Mr. Speaker,
hunting, fishing, and trapping play important roles in shaping our province’s
heritage and economy. On Saturday, November 15th people across Saskatchewan,
residents and visitors alike, will celebrate Hunting, Fishing and Trapping
Heritage Day.
Today we’re seeing a new generation
stepping forward — young hunters, anglers, and trappers, who continue these
traditions. Their passion, respect for the land, and commitment to conservation
ensures these traditions remain strong and meaningful for generations to come.
In 2009 The Hunting, Fishing and
Trapping Heritage Act was passed as an important step in recognizing the
value of these outdoor traditions in Saskatchewan. Camo Day was launched in
conjunction with Saskatchewan Hunting, Fishing and Trapping Heritage Day. This
day encourages people to wear camo and share their stories with friends and
colleagues in support of the benefits that hunting, angling, and trapping
provide.
The Saskatchewan Wildlife Federation has
been a key partner in celebrating the economic, cultural, and social
contributions of the outdoors. Mr. Speaker, I want to thank the SWF for being
here with us today. We will continue to strengthen this important relationship
and raise awareness about the vital roles hunters, anglers, and trappers play
as stewards for our environment. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Wascana Plains.
Brent Blakley: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. Well unfortunately football season in Saskatchewan will soon come to
an end. The Saskatchewan teams still playing at this time of year is an
indication of our provincial teams’ success this year.
The U of S [University of Saskatchewan]
Huskies won out over the Regina Rams in Canada West and will take on the
Queen’s golden Gaels in the Mitchell Bowl this Saturday to earn a berth in the
Vanier Cup, played right here in Regina next weekend.
A packed Mosaic stadium witnessed the
Saskatchewan Roughriders win over the BC [British Columbia] Lions in the west
final and will compete for the Grey Cup this Sunday in Winnipeg. The Riders
last played in and won the Grey Cup in 2013 and will take on the Montreal
Alouettes in an attempt to win their fifth Grey Cup in the team’s history. Fans
throughout the province will be in front of their screens hanging on every
play. In Saskatchewan we take our football seriously, but in the end we are
reminded that it is just a game and there’s a human aspect to it that is more
important than the game itself.
The U of S Huskies starting quarterback
this year, Anton Amundrud from Lloydminster, has missed the team’s last several
games and is battling lymphoma. So this weekend and next, while we’re cheering
on our Saskatchewan football teams, we will hold Anton Amundrud and his family
and his teammates in our hearts. Go Huskies. Go Riders.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Yorkton.
David Chan: — Mr. Speaker, it’s
my pleasure to rise in this Chamber to recognize a very special group in the
community of Yorkton. Whether it’s perogies, pysanka, or folk dance, Ukrainians
have helped to shape the cultural landscape of our city. This year the Yorkton
Kalyna Ukrainian Dance School is marking its 50th anniversary since being
incorporated by the UCWLC [Ukrainian Catholic Women’s League of Canada] Branch
#2 in 1975.
Although its official inception was in
1975, the club’s history began over 20 years prior with a dedicated group of
parents and volunteers who wanted a way to preserve their culture. Many of
those who once danced as children have returned later in life to introduce
their own children to the art and to the dance once again as adults.
This year Kalyna boasts 112 registered
dancers and is looking forward to several events, most notably the upcoming
50th anniversary gala which will be held on November 22nd at the Gallagher
Centre in Yorkton. Current dancers, alumni, family members, and the community
at large are all invited to take part in this opportunity to reminisce on what
Ukrainian dance has meant and continues to mean for the city of Yorkton.
Congratulations Yorkton Kalyna Dance
School on reaching this half-century milestone.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Douglas Park.
Nicole Sarauer: — Mr. Speaker, I
rise today to highlight the Ignite Adult Learning Corporation’s 2025 graduation
ceremony. The Ignite Adult Learning Corporation has faced a difficult year.
Earlier this year, they believed they would have to permanently close their
doors as a result of funding cuts. There was a real possibility that Ignite
would never again be able to graduate students.
Despite facing significant challenges,
Ignite has continued to provide an inclusive and safe learning space that
serves at-risk young adults facing poverty, houselessness, and other
significant barriers. Ignite’s education and skills training programs act as a
lifeline for so many in our communities.
I had the privilege of attending this
year’s graduation ceremony, which celebrated the remarkable achievements of the
13 graduating students. The celebration began with honour songs performed by
the Lone Creek drummers, a meaningful blessing from Kohkom Brenda Dubois, and a
warm welcome from executive director Dellice Saxby.
Ignite teacher, Joanne Farmer, offered
powerful words of encouragement and pride to her students in her keynote
speech. This year four students were recognized for graduating with
distinction: Charity Bird-Deegan, Alesha Black, Hamma Khalid, and Fatema Payanda.
Mr. Speaker, I ask that all members join me in congratulating the Ignite Adult
Learning Corporation’s graduating class of 2025.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from The Battlefords, our health
care minister.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I rise today as the MLA for The
Battlefords to honour a pillar of our community, Bernadette Leslie of the Fred
Light Museum in the town of Battleford. After beginning her journey in 1979 as
a summer student, Bernadette dedicated over 45 years to preserving and sharing
our local history and just retired earlier this fall.
Under her stewardship the museum has
grown from a modest operation to a richly curated local gem, complete with
themed rooms and an incredible collection of old firearms. The museum also
leads The Battlefords’ veterans banner program every year that honours our
local residents that fought valiantly for our country. And they also put on a
great family fun day every summer at the Fred Light Museum.
Bernadette’s work has meant far more
than artifacts. It has meant connecting generations, offering students hands-on
experience, and making our past accessible and alive to residents in our
community. Her thoughtful mentorship to volunteers and staff has ensured that
the museum will continue to thrive for many more years.
Today I invite my legislative colleagues
to join me in thanking Bernadette for her remarkable service to The Battlefords
as well as to the province of Saskatchewan. We wish her a fulfilling
retirement, knowing that the legacy she built in our community will last for
many years to come. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Warman, the Social Services
minister.
Hon. Terry
Jenson: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s with immense pride and as the MLA for Warman and a
nod to the hockey history of this province that I recognize the SJHL’s
[Saskatchewan Junior Hockey League] newest franchise, the Warman Wolverines.
The Wolverines were born February 18th
of this year because of relocation from their previous home in Wilcox as the
Notre Dame Hounds at the end of the 2024‑25 season. After nearly 45 years
in the SJHL, more than 100 Hounds have been drafted or signed by NHL [National
Hockey League] teams, including some whose names are entrenched in our
province’s hockey history: Wendel Clark, Rod Brind’Amour, Curtis Joseph, Jaden
Schwartz, and current Tampa Bay Lightning head coach, Jon Cooper. The
Wolverines are led by an ownership group of several investors, including
Jonathan Abrametz, Cole Kachur, and Tyler Helm.
Head coach and general manager, Brett
Pilkington, has built a roster that works hard every shift and are being
rewarded by the fans’ tremendous energy inside KH Developments Arena. Whether
it’s captain Vinnie Palmarin of Wilcox or Owen Parks of Long Beach, California,
the entire Wolverines roster are growing into their new identity very quickly,
and they’re becoming part of the community.
The Wolverines picked up their first
ever franchise win on the road in Kindersley on September 26th and recorded
their first win on home ice October 18th in a thrilling 4‑3 shootout win
over the Battlefords North Stars. Mr. Speaker, the Wolverines may be a new
franchise, but it’s safe to say that with the Hounds’ history as part of this
team, the tradition of producing world-class hockey players and Hall of Famers
will continue in the years to come. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the Opposition House
Leader.
Nicole Sarauer: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, yesterday we
exposed just how desperate the health care crisis is on the front lines in
rural Saskatchewan — a single registered nurse left to fend for themselves in
rural emergency rooms. That’s right, Mr. Speaker, one registered nurse running
an entire hospital. We know a major reason behind this is because this
government has frozen wages for front-line health care workers. We hear from
those workers. They put in a full shift and then have to stop at the food bank
on their way home.
Why has this
Premier failed to help Saskatchewan’s incredible front-line health care workers
with a skyrocketing cost of living?
Speaker Goudy: — I recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: — Mr. Speaker,
it was disappointing to see the members opposite put forward yesterday that
these regulations are somehow new to the health care system, Mr. Speaker. The
Facility Designation Regulations were last amended in 2011, Mr. Speaker.
That’s where these requirements for staff were put in, Mr. Speaker. These are
not new, as the members opposite yesterday indicated.
When it comes
to compensating our health care workers, Mr. Speaker, that do important work
each and every day in facilities large and small across our province, we’re
currently in bargaining with all of our health care union partners. We’re going
to ensure that compensation remains competitive across Western Canada. We look
forward to continuing those discussions at the bargaining table.
Speaker Goudy: — I recognize the Opposition House Leader.
Nicole Sarauer: — Mr. Speaker, 18 years of this government, and now
rural health care is in the worst shape we’ve ever seen. Now according to a
Saskatchewan Health Authority memo, a single registered nurse is expected to
keep an entire hospital up and running. But the Health minister, he keeps
saying — he said again today — nothing new to see here.
But then an official he brought out from the SHA [Saskatchewan Health
Authority] yesterday admitted the memo was meant to “standardize health care
across the province.” Clearly, Mr. Speaker, the left hand doesn’t know what the
right hand is doing.
Is the Premier aware of this mess that
his Health minister has caused?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: —
You know, Mr. Speaker, the members opposite want to talk about nurses staffing
our hospitals all across the province, Mr. Speaker. We have some fantastic
nursing staff right across the province, whether they’re RNs [registered nurse]
or LPNs [licensed practical nurse] or RPNs [registered psychiatric nurse],
right across the province, Mr. Speaker.
And let me remind the members opposite,
Mr. Speaker . . .
[Interjections]
Speaker
Goudy: — Okay.
I recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: —
Mr. Speaker, I’ll remind the members opposite that under the most ambitious
health human resources action plan in the country, Mr. Speaker, we have reduced
our chronic nursing vacancies by 56 per cent over the last two years. Hiring
nurses all over the province thanks to the generous incentives in place, Mr.
Speaker, that’s the work that this government is going to continue to do.
The members opposite have voted against
that plan time and time again, Mr. Speaker. We’re going to continue to make
sure that care is available close to home for everyone.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Walsh Acres.
Jared Clarke: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. You know, it’s front-line health care workers who are the ones telling
us just how brutal working conditions are in rural health care. Not only is it
just one registered nurse to run an entire hospital, maybe with an LPN, but there
is no need for a physician to be on site now. A virtual physician will do,
according to the memo.
[10:45]
People deserve to know before they
arrive at a rural hospital that there is no physician in the emergency room.
You’ve just got one overworked registered nurse and a virtual physician. Is
this what the Premier considers proper health care in rural Saskatchewan these
days?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: —
Well there it is, Mr. Speaker. Time and time again, Mr. Speaker, we’ve spoken
about the innovations that this government is working on to deal with service
disruptions in rural Saskatchewan.
Point-of-care testing, Mr. Speaker,
members opposite have voted against it. The virtual physician program, Mr.
Speaker, they say they’re for it, but the record shows differently, Mr.
Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, we should really be asking
the members opposite, would they get rid of the virtual physician program, a
program put together by Saskatchewan physicians in partnership with the
Saskatchewan Health Authority and the Ministry of Health . . .
[Interjections]
Speaker
Goudy: — There’s all sorts of time for your
questions, but please listen to the answers. We’ll listen to the questions.
Continue, Minister.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: —
The virtual physician program, Mr. Speaker, developed by Saskatchewan
physicians working with the Saskatchewan Health Authority and the Ministry of
Health, has saved thousands of days of disruptions across the province, Mr.
Speaker. Is that something that the members opposite would get rid of?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Walsh Acres.
Jared Clarke: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. You know, virtual care has a time and a place in health care in
Saskatchewan. Nobody is denying that. But CIHI [Canadian Institute for Health
Information] data shows that only 10 per cent of emergency room visits can
safely be treated by a virtual physician. People deserve to know before they go
to the hospital whether there’s a virtual physician or a real physician there.
Now we’ve seen nearly an 800 per cent
increase in rural health care closures since this Premier took office — 800 per
cent — but rather than fix the problem, Mr. Speaker, he’s clearly just
dispatched the Health minister to move those goalposts.
Simple question: how many front-line
health care workers did the Health minister consult before imposing these
dangerous new working conditions on them?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: —
I’ll say it again. Maybe the member opposite missed it in one of my initial
answers, Mr. Speaker. These regulations have been in place since 2011, Mr.
Speaker. That’s about 14 years that these same regulations have been in place.
But, Mr. Speaker, the members opposite
want to talk about listening to health care workers. The virtual physician
program, Mr. Speaker, was developed by Saskatchewan physicians for settings
such as what we see in rural Saskatchewan all across the province, Mr. Speaker.
This is a highly successful program developed by health care workers right in
our province, Mr. Speaker. And yet the members opposite have voted against it
time and time again and rise in this House and say that we should not be
innovating in health care, Mr. Speaker.
This is a government that is going to
continue innovating in health care, Mr. Speaker, and we’re proud of it.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Walsh Acres.
Jared Clarke: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. The Health minister will have many, many opportunities to ask
questions soon enough.
Now it sure sounds like they’ve
consulted with zero health care workers before they implemented these dangerous
new rules, Mr. Speaker. But the problem, we know, runs deep in rural health
care.
We know full well that the Saskatchewan
Health Authority board is full of Sask Party donors, friends, and political
campaign hacks. Now yesterday, the minister trotted out an SHA official to the
media to act as a political flak jacket, simply to avoid having to answer real
questions himself about . . .
Speaker
Goudy: — Our public servants certainly aren’t
here to defend themselves, and we won’t be bringing accusations and comments
about their work. Please, a question for the ministry or the work of the
government.
Jared Clarke: — Does the minister
realize the dangerous game that he’s playing with Saskatchewan people’s lives,
or is he finally admitting that he doesn’t know that he can do his job?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: —
You know, Mr. Speaker, it’s really concerning that we would have elected MLAs
in this province question the dedication of Saskatchewan Health Authority
executives and employees. Mr. Speaker, I have a high degree of confidence and
trust in those people that run our health care system across this province, Mr.
Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, I’ll repeat again. The
member opposite just said that virtual physicians aren’t real physicians. Mr.
Speaker, nothing could be farther from the truth. The virtual physician program
is staffed by real physicians in this province developed by Saskatchewan
physicians to serve Saskatchewan patients in rural facilities right across the
province, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, time and time again the
members opposite, when our new ideas are brought to the forefront — whether
it’s privately delivered, publicly paid-for surgeries; whether it be the
virtual physician program; whether it be the point-of-care testing that has
saved many rural disruptions right across the province — the members opposite
say no to innovation. We are going to continue to innovate in health care and
make sure that patients are looked after.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Walsh Acres.
Jared Clarke: — Mr. Speaker, not a
single ounce of contrition from this government about the dangerous games they
are playing with people’s lives in rural Saskatchewan.
I’ll remind the minister that hospital
closures have increased by 800 per cent under that Premier. Instead they plow
ahead knowing full well that the changes that they are making in rural health
care could cost the lives of someone or hurt someone very seriously.
Will this government commit today to
reversing its dangerous new rules that it is forcing rural emergency rooms,
hospitals to stay open?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: —
These new rules that the member references have been in place since 2011, Mr.
Speaker.
Speaker Goudy: — I recognize the member
from Saskatoon Churchill-Wildwood.
Keith
Jorgenson: —
You know, wow. All I have to say is, I think people would expect more of their
local Taco Bell franchise than this.
Mr. Speaker, Pamela Bartlett from the
Oxbow area is here advocating for change in health care. This Sask Party
government is standing by their decision to have one manager split between two
facilities 50 kilometres apart. And right now neither facility has an
administrator at all.
This is dangerous, Mr. Speaker, for
their community, and it undermines the quality of care for the residents,
patients, and the dedicated staff in those facilities. I’ll quote from the
letter that was sent to the minister: “The current staffing crisis poses a
serious risk to patient safety, staff retention, and community health
stability.”
How did the minister let things get so
bad in rural health care?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: —
Well thank you, Mr. Speaker, I had the opportunity along with my colleague, the
Minister of Rural and Remote Health, to meet with Pamela Bartlett, the
administrator of the RM of Enniskillen,
this morning, Mr. Speaker. I had a great meeting, productive meeting. I know
that my colleague has spoken with Ms. Bartlett many times over the last year,
Mr. Speaker.
You know, Mr. Speaker, it’s interesting.
I’ll remind the member opposite of a recent announcement that we were able to
make earlier this year, Mr. Speaker, asking the Saskatchewan Health Authority
to find administrative savings. They found over $10 million of administrative
savings and put those right back into front-line managers and front-line
positions in rural facilities right across the province, Mr. Speaker. We’re
going to continue looking for more administrative savings, so that we can have
more people on the front line putting patients first, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon
Churchill-Wildwood.
Keith
Jorgenson: —
Thank you so much, Mr. Speaker. The RM and the town have been calling for help
with their health care for over a year, Mr. Speaker. They’ve been begging for
change. The RM and the town have been calling for their health care centre to
be re-designated as a hospital. They have 10 beds sitting there and staff that
could be utilized and aren’t. This could be easing the pressure on the system
all across the Southeast. The residents could be receiving timely, high-quality
health care, but they’re not, Mr. Speaker.
Why do residents of Oxbow have to drive
all the way to Regina to their legislature to have their concerns heard, Mr.
Speaker?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: —
You know, I’ll say, Mr. Speaker, if the member opposite had engaged to the
depth that the local MLA has on this issue, that my colleague the Minister of
Rural and Remote Health has on this issue, he would know the full details, Mr.
Speaker. We want to ensure that we have the right alignment of staff in the
community, Mr. Speaker, so that we can have the right services available to
people in that community.
We will continue working, again through
the country’s most ambitious health human resources action plan to add more
health care professionals — whether those be physicians, whether those be
nursing staff, Mr. Speaker — to ensure that, whether it be Oxbow or any other
community in Saskatchewan, that we can continue to increase the level of
service available close to home for patients.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Mount Royal.
Trent Wotherspoon:
— Mr. Speaker, this tired and out-of-touch government has failed the people of
Saskatchewan for 18 years to improve rural health care. And of course they’ve
failed producers in rural Saskatchewan with respect to illegal foreign farm
landownership. In fact the Sask Party government has failed to act to ensure
enforcement of the law, and they’ve looked the other way and dismissed the very
serious concerns of . . .
Speaker
Goudy: — Sorry. Yesterday I heard you
mentioned “looking the other way” and calling things “crime.” I’m going to ask
you to avoid what I sense is accusing the government, of our hon. members, that
they’re looking the other way on things that you’re calling crime. So please
reword your question.
Trent
Wotherspoon: —
They’ve dismissed the very serious concerns of producers, and they failed to
have the measures in place to ensure the enforcement of the law, Mr. Speaker.
How can the Agriculture minister defend
that government’s record of failure and inaction, one that spans almost two
decades on this front?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Agriculture.
Hon. Daryl Harrison: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. As a producer and a landowner, I take farm landownership very
seriously. Mr. Speaker, we have strengthened the legislation around farm
landownership. We have implemented all the recommendations by the Provincial
Auditor, Mr. Speaker, and I struck a committee to further review.
Mr. Speaker, this government is always
there for our producers, and we will continue to be so every step of the way.
Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Mount Royal.
Trent
Wotherspoon: —
You know, Mr. Speaker, it’s one thing for that government, that minister, to be
dismissive of the opposition, but it’s another thing to be dismissive of the
Agricultural Producers Association of Saskatchewan, of the producers of this
province. Now of course they sent a letter to that minister yesterday, but I
don’t think he read it. I don’t think he got the message: “Suspicion of
indirect forms of foreign ownership include corporate structures and financial
instruments, distort market dynamics, and further limits access for
Saskatchewan producers.”
You know, if the minister won’t take my
word for it, will he listen to the producers of Saskatchewan, to APAS
[Agricultural Producers Association of Saskatchewan], to SARM [Saskatchewan
Association of Rural Municipalities]? Will he finally acknowledge there’s a
serious problem in this province with respect to illegal foreign farm
landownership? And will he finally get to work to fix his weak and inadequate
measures to enforce the law?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Agriculture.
Hon. Daryl Harrison: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. I struck this advisory committee to meet with groups like SARM and
APAS. And as the member opposite alluded to suspicion of illegal farm
landownership, if the president from APAS or SARM have evidence or the member
opposite has evidence, please bring it forward to the Farm Land Security Board.
Let them do their job. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Mount Royal.
Trent
Wotherspoon: —
Talk about dismissive. That minister knows full well that producers in this
province and the people of this province have taken very serious concerns and
information to the Farm Land Security Board. It’s that minister and that
government that has failed to provide them the teeth and the resources they
need to enforce the law, Mr. Speaker.
You know, the loopholes with their
enforcement are so wide, you could drive an air seeder through them, Mr.
Speaker. Half the deals examined by the auditor lacked the appropriate
documentation. Six employees for over 40,000 transactions — it’s a system
designed to fail by a government that has failed to support the Farm Land
Security Board and make sure the measures and resources are in place to enforce
the law.
After years of inaction on this file,
why on earth should Saskatchewan people and producers trust now that that
minister and this government are now going to finally take this issue
seriously?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Agriculture.
Hon. Daryl Harrison: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To the member opposite,
I’ll remind him that farm landownership rules were strengthened here by my
predecessor in 2014, Mr. Speaker. We implemented stronger legislation on
ownership of farm land here in the province. Mr. Speaker, from the auditor’s
report we have implemented mandatory statutory declarations on all farm land
transactions. All the recommendations that the auditor made, we have
implemented, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon Centre.
Betty
Nippi-Albright: — Mr. Speaker,
yesterday I asked the Minister for Mental Health and Addictions a simple
question, and that was to confirm the devastating reports I’ve heard about 200
people waiting for addiction treatment and support at the facility in Thorpe
alone. That’s right — 200 people trying to get help to save their lives.
The minister
ignored my question, so I’m going to try again. How many people are currently
stuck on wait-lists across Saskatchewan for mental health and addictions?
[11:00]
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the Minister of Mental
Health and Addictions.
Hon. Lori Carr: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And, Mr. Speaker, I just
want to set the record straight on the facility that the member was talking
about yesterday. That’s actually an Alberta facility that she’s talking about.
The province of Saskatchewan rents 15 spaces within that facility, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker,
spaces available for residents in Saskatchewan is exactly what this government
is doing. We have our recovery-oriented system of care that we are putting in
place, and within that we’re expanding spaces within the province. Our goal is
500 spaces on top of the spaces that we already have, Mr. Speaker. We’re at
just about 300 of those spaces, and we’re continuing to do that work.
As soon as we
get those full 500 spaces in place, Mr. Speaker, we’ll evaluate what we have
out there, and most likely we will have to do more work. But what we’re doing
is we’re not closing down spaces, Mr. Speaker. We’re actually opening them in
the province.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Centre.
Betty
Nippi-Albright: —
Mr. Speaker, this province still funds spaces for that facility. People are
still waiting to get into those spaces. How many people are currently on
wait-lists across Saskatchewan to get into in-patient treatment centres?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Mental Health and
Addictions.
Hon. Lori Carr: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I did say that we do fund 15 spaces in that facility.
That’s exactly what I said, and if she was listening, she would have heard that
the first time around, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, we do have several programs
that we run throughout this province. And within those spaces that we’re
providing through recovery-oriented system of care, there are pre-treatment
spaces, there are treatment spaces for addictions, and then there are
post-treatment spaces, Mr. Speaker.
And I want to talk about the
post-treatment spaces that we are making available. Those are to ensure that
when the people do get out of treatment, Mr. Speaker, that they have those
wraparound supports for them so that they are able to continue down that path
of recovery. And that is what our government is looking at so that we have
strong communities, strong families, as people live in recovery, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Centre.
Betty
Nippi-Albright: —
Mr. Speaker, she hasn’t said of those 200 people are Saskatchewan citizens
waiting to get into that facility. Mr. Speaker, I’ve asked this question many
times. To act on the addictions crisis; I ask this government to act on that.
Addictions is killing our people and they’re destroying so many lives.
In the past they accused us, the NDP
[New Democratic Party], of wanting to give out free drugs. Just yesterday the
minister implied that I wanted to give out free crack pipes. She knows that’s
wrong and disparaging. I wonder why she’d say that to me. What does the
minister say to First Nations and Métis people who are disproportionately dying
from this toxic drug crisis?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Mental Health and
Addictions.
Hon. Lori Carr: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. Mr. Speaker, what I would say to all residents in Saskatchewan is that
we will advocate for recovery for you. We will put services in place so that
every individual in this province has an opportunity at recovery, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, the illicit drugs that are
out there are so dangerous, they’re so addicting that we will not advocate in
any way, shape, or form in providing those drugs to individuals. But what we
will advocate for, Mr. Speaker, is recovery. And as we continue to talk about
the services that are out there, we have outreach teams that meet people where
they are at on the streets to try and encourage them to get into recovery, Mr.
Speaker. And that is what we will continue to do, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Coronation Park.
Noor Burki: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. Mr. Speaker, our Saskatchewan motto is “from many peoples, strength.”
But we will never be able to realize that motto unless we make this province
that is a welcoming place for all.
The Sask Party sent the wrong message to
young people and newcomers at their convention last weekend. But that’s not the
only problem, Mr. Speaker. We see thousands of people leaving Saskatchewan
every year to other provinces, and the provincial government could not make a
deal on SINP [Saskatchewan immigrant nominee program] like Manitoba and New
Brunswick managed. Our new SINP spots have been cut drastically.
With that I will ask the government what
is their plan to ensure that newcomers can stay here in this province and help
build a bright future for our province?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Finance.
Hon. Jim
Reiter: —
Mr. Speaker, as the member opposite knows, in immigration, much of it’s
controlled by the federal government. What is controlled by the provincial
government is the economic streams from allocations from the federal
government, Mr. Speaker. Those were cut in half last spring, Mr. Speaker.
We’ve had many discussions with the
federal government pointing out the imperative that those streams have to the
economy of Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker. While we want Saskatchewan people to have
the first opportunity, in some cases, those need to be provided from other
provinces, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Education.
Hon. Everett
Hindley: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that Bill No. 38, The Building Schools
Faster Act, be now introduced and read a first time.
Speaker
Goudy: — It has been moved by the Minister of
Education that Bill No. 38, The Building Schools Faster Act, be now
introduced and read a first time. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt
the motion?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — Agreed. Carried.
Deputy
Clerk: — First reading of this bill.
Speaker
Goudy: — When shall this bill be read a
second time?
Hon. Everett
Hindley: —
Next sitting of the Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — Next sitting.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Education.
Hon. Everett
Hindley: —
Mr. Speaker, I move that Bill No. 39, The Building Schools Faster
Consequential Amendment Act, 2025, bilingual, be now introduced and read a
first time.
Speaker
Goudy: — It’s been moved by the Minister of
Education that Bill No. 39, The Building Schools Faster Consequential
Amendment Act, 2025 be now read the second time. Is it the pleasure of the
Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — Oh, for the first time. Well we’ll
do it first before we do it second, Minister. Is it the pleasure of the
Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — Carried.
Deputy
Clerk: — First reading of this bill.
Speaker
Goudy: — When shall this bill be read a second
time?
Hon. Everett
Hindley: —
Next sitting of the Assembly, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — Next sitting.
Speaker Goudy:
— I recognize the member from Kindersley-Biggar.
Kim Gartner: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. It’s a pleasure to rise and enter debate. Mr. Speaker, the energy
sector in this province contributes $13.5 billion annually to our
provincial economy and includes over 160 companies that operate oil and gas
wells in Saskatchewan.
The industry operates very visibly in
many areas of the province. I am proud to represent such an area. The
constituency of Kindersley-Biggar is home to many oil and gas producers. In
fact no less than seven of the top 10 Saskatchewan producers have significant
holdings in west central Saskatchewan. We are also home to the Kerrobert
terminal, a major pumping station for Enbridge pipelines.
Mr. Speaker, growing up on a farm
outside a small town in west central Saskatchewan located less than one mile
from the Alberta border, I had a front-row seat to the development of our oil
industry. And even though I didn’t know it at the time, I was watching an
interesting growth pattern of the oil and gas development in our area. As I
progressed through elementary and then high school, there were always new
families moving to town. Their parents were always directly or indirectly
employed in the oil and gas sector.
It was a slow migration and there was
always a buzz about the potential explosion of exploration and development. We
watched as just 2 kilometres to the west a prosperous and vibrant oil industry
was booming, and a similar-sized town was now doubling in its population while
we continued with a slow-growth pattern. What was the difference in
communities? The community services were the same. The farm economy was the
same. Surely the oil didn’t stop at that imaginary border between our two
provinces.
As I moved into my graduation year, the
mood and the vibe of our community changed. My classmates were no longer
looking west to Alberta, and our parents began giving us graduation presents
that weren’t suitcases. Entrepreneurs and businesses, business-minded people
began investing into our community as provincial policies began to shift and
change.
It was the election in 1982 that began
the shift of economic policy towards a market-based economy, where communities
like those in west central Saskatchewan, began to thrive as we moved away from
state-led economics. Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker, there was oil and gas development
before 1982.
In fact west central Saskatchewan was
home to some of the very large holdings of a company called SaskOil. Now, the
roots of this company are really quite interesting. The idea of an oil company,
to be owned by the province of Saskatchewan to compete with other extraction
companies within the province, was originated by the NDP in 1972 by a faction
of the NDP party known as the Waffle.
The Waffle actively organized behind an
NDP policy initiative to have complete public ownership of the provincial oil
industry. SaskOil was to be that vehicle when it was created in 1973. The NDP
implemented a 100 per cent windfall tax on oil profits and expropriated the
mineral and exploration rights of 24 private companies.
Mr. Speaker, our Premier often speaks to
policies and how policies matter. Well the Premier is absolutely correct. And
the Waffle-NDP policy that stagnated the development of our oil and gas sector
held back our economy, sent a generation of young Saskatchewan graduates to
Alberta, and forced us to watch in envy as the Alberta economy exploded has
once again reared its head.
From the recent NDP convention, be it
resolved that the NDP will take ownership of a public and socialized oil and
gas sector. Yes, Mr. Deputy Speaker, policies matter. Today the company assets
that were once proposed to control development and expansion are owned and
operated by Strathcona Resources, the fourth-largest producer in our province.
Mr. Speaker, the movement of the oil and
gas produced in our province is carried by various pipeline companies assisting
with the safe movement of our energy products every day. Enbridge pipeline’s
Kerrobert Terminal is connected to the Mainline pipe system and has a shell
capacity of about 318,000 barrels. Inter Pipeline Ltd. is a crude oil gathering
system, carrying oil from the Kindersley-Kerrobert region to the Enbridge
system. Alliance Pipeline operates an integrated natural gas system delivering
Western Canadian natural gas to the United States.
These companies help manage the flow of
our energy commodities across North America and to markets around the world.
The location of the Kerrobert Terminal strengthens the stability and the
reliability of Saskatchewan as a major player in Canadian energy production and
distribution. For the province of Saskatchewan, it is an investment that
demonstrates a commitment to the energy sector that we can safely transport and
market our commodities to the world. It demonstrates that private enterprise
joins with the province of Saskatchewan, demonstrating that we are a safe,
strong, and secure place to invest.
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Mr. Speaker, the oil and gas sector in
Saskatchewan wants to help with economic growth. They want to continue
contributing to advancements in health, education, and our entire provincial
economy. Mr. Deputy Speaker, that can happen with pipeline capacity expansion.
But, Mr. Speaker, the pipelines are
full. We need to — and they want to — expand their capacity both east and west.
The oil and gas companies that supply the pipeline systems with product want to
expand, particularly into Saskatchewan. In an effort to get more west central
Saskatchewan oil to market, Strathcona Resources has purchased the Hardisty,
Alberta rail terminal, the largest crude-by-rail terminal in Western Canada.
Without additional pipeline space, the
demand for crude by rail will continue to increase, and the ability for our
rail-dependent industries to transport to market will be increasingly
difficult. The need for increased pipeline space is a required element to
stabilize the movement of our mining, manufacturing, forestry, and agricultural
products to market.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, on this side of the
Chamber, we have the desire to unlock the full potential of our province’s
economy, including the energy sector. And it is not a pipe dream. It is a
reality. Companies that produce and transport our energy products are willing
and ready to invest to continue contributing to our prosperity. They see
Saskatchewan as a safe, secure, and stable partner, a partner that shares the
same goals for a strong economy, safe environmental protections, and a secure
energy future. We are a leader in carbon capture technology. So what is
standing in our way?
Standing in our way is uncertainty —
uncertainty with federal policy, uncertainty about the removal of policies that
restrict our exports from moving freely across this country and through the
ports to the markets around the world, uncertainty that comes from policies and
protectionist red tape that exists in provinces that stand between our products
and the tidewater ports that are our conduit to the world.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, as a province we
understand the importance of maintaining policy that promotes pipeline
investment. The oil infrastructure investment program was recently extended
until March 2029, providing support for qualifying oil and CO2
pipeline projects within the province to encourage infrastructure development
and investment.
In fact our Premier has been a very
vocal supporter of large, interprovincial pipeline projects in all directions.
Our Premier has explicitly backed the recent proposal for a new oil pipeline to
the British Columbia coast, advocating for federal approval, arguing a West
Coast pipeline is of national interest.
The Northern Gateway pipeline was
originally approved in 2014 by the National Energy Board. However the NDP stood
in this House and voted against supporting the construction. Following a change
of our federal government, the project was cancelled in 2016. This cancellation
was followed by the implementation of a series of strict federal regulations
designed to prohibit further development or expansion of our oil industry and
restrict further development of pipelines and port facilities along Canada’s West
Coast.
The current provincial NDP government in
British Columbia have said that they do not and will not support any pipeline
project application. In 2024 the lack of Western Canadian pipeline access to
tidewater cost the Saskatchewan oil producers $1.6 billion in lost revenue
and the Government of Saskatchewan approximately 130 million in lost
taxes, royalties, and other revenue.
So, Mr. Speaker, it is very interesting
to read the wording of support we see from the Saskatchewan NDP as it is
specifically for a pipeline to the East Coast with no mention of a West Coast
pipeline. A quote by the member from Regina University: “We need to focus on
diversifying our markets — and that starts with building a pipeline to Canada’s
East Coast.” This statement is consistent with current NDP policy. No mention
of a pipeline to the West Coast.
Why would you not support further
development to the West Coast? Why would you not contact your NDP colleagues
and promote the importance of further West Coast pipeline development? Why
would you not support a pipeline that has once been approved, and in favour for
an East Coast pipeline that requires a proponent and has already once been
rejected?
This Saskatchewan Party government’s
policies and actions are not talking points. These are clear and concise
policies that align with our goal to keep Saskatchewan strong, safe, and
secure.
[Interjections]
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I’ll ask the members to pay
attention to the speech that’s being given and keep your comments for later.
Thank you.
Kim Gartner: — Our policies are
open, transparent, and stable. They are part of what we openly believe. You can
ask any one of the members on this side of the House if they support our oil
and gas industry and the pipeline systems that safely transport its product, and
you will receive a clear, concise, affirmative answer.
So tar sands and no federal plan to transition out of oil
is the context in which we are talking about investing millions of public money
into increasing our capacity to move raw bitumen? Absolutely it should be
opposed.
The
members opposite refuse to separate themselves from their waffled past and
continue to support a state-led economic policy.
Mr.
Speaker, the upstream oil and gas industry employs 26,250 families and workers
here in Saskatchewan. The companies and their employees continue to contribute
to the social and economic fabric of every Saskatchewan community. They are our
neighbours, they are our community members, and they are our fundraising
partners, and they desire to continue contributing to the prosperity of our
province.
Therefore,
Mr. Deputy Speaker, it is my pleasure to move:
That this Assembly call upon the Government of Saskatchewan
to support the development of a new Canadian pipeline to carry Saskatchewan oil
to the West Coast of Canada.
Thank
you.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — It has
been moved by the member from Kindersley-Biggar:
That this Assembly call upon the Government
of Saskatchewan to support the development of a new Canadian pipeline to carry
Saskatchewan oil to the West Coast of Canada.
Is
the Assembly ready for the question? I recognize the member from Regina
University.
Sally Housser: — Thank you very much, Deputy Speaker. I
could not be more delighted to rise today to speak in favour of this motion by
the government that calls on itself — the government — to support something
that I thought we already did.
And
I know that I’ve only been here for just over a year, but perhaps I
misunderstood what 75‑minute debate was about. I thought it was putting
forward something where there was a disagreement so that we could actually
debate it, you know, as we did with the foreign ownership of land. We agree
with APAS and SARM and the producers that there’s a problem. The government
doesn’t, and we debated it as such, you know. But far be it from me to try to
unpack the multi-layered complex strategy of some of the finest political minds
that I know we have over there on the other side.
Mr.
Deputy Speaker, suffice it to say that I could not be more delighted to rise,
and for myself and my colleagues to once again — once again publicly, with
industry here in the House — talk about our support for getting our product to
market for the construction of more rail, more pipe to the West Coast, and
support for our industry and support for our industry workers. Any day that I
get to talk about the oil and gas industry is a good day for me.
You
know, back in the late spring or early summer, myself and the Leader of the
Opposition and my colleague from Saskatoon Riversdale had a great trip to
Calgary. And in that trip we met with leadership from Enbridge, leadership from
Cenovus, leadership from CAPP [Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers],
EPAC [The Explorers and Producers Association of Canada], many other industry
professionals. And it was clear that we need to be building more infrastructure
everywhere in this country, but there absolutely was consensus that the place
to start was Western Canada. And we said in that room, like we consistently say
in the public and the media and here in the House, that we agree, that we need
more capacity going west.
We
are consistent in that in the room. You know, I always am baffled at how the
government refuses to take yes for an answer. You know, there’s so many things
in this House that we disagree massively on — their failure on health care,
their failure on education, their failure on affordability — but this is one
where there’s a level of consensus. And you would think that a government would
take yes for an answer and actually do the work and get a pipeline built.
In
the generation that they have been in government, the only thing that they have
seen built, Justin Trudeau had to buy for them, right. So I mean I am
consistently baffled by that, how we don’t see them actually working with
. . . and continuing to try to drive a partisan wedge where there
isn’t one instead of getting the job done.
Yeah,
you know, the one thing where we might not agree on this one is who should be
building this pipeline. We think it should be built by Saskatchewan steel with
Saskatchewan steelworkers, the best in the country, some of the best in the
world, Mr. Speaker. But unfortunately this province signed an MOU [memorandum
of understanding] with Ontario that specifically says new pipelines and rail
projects will be built with Ontario steel.
And
I just do not understand how our Premier . . . Did he not read the
document? Was it a mistake? Did he ask Ford to correct? And what does he have
to say to the steelworkers, our hard-working steelworkers here in Saskatchewan?
That yeah, that if they do actually manage to get something moving, that yeah,
that that steel is just going to come from Ontario. It makes no sense to me,
Mr. Speaker.
You
know, here the Saskatchewan NDP has repeatedly called. Back in March our leader
wrote to every federal leader calling for all sorts of infrastructure projects,
but quite specifically the need for more energy infrastructure and quite
specifically the need for more pipelines. We have called for expanding access
to global markets for Saskatchewan products, investments in trade-enabling
infrastructure like ports, rails, pipelines, and power lines.
You
know, Mr. Speaker, I didn’t come from an oil and gas family but I married into
one. My father-in-law founded Seven Generations Energy in Alberta. I’ve had the
opportunity to work as a consultant lobbyist for Enbridge over the construction
of Line 3, you know, and worked with many other industry clients like Imperial
Oil as well.
I
am so proud of what we have to offer the world here in Saskatchewan, and we
know we need more of it. And not just here in Saskatchewan for our own power
needs, but we want to be in a position where we can export as well, where we
become that energy leader and energy superpower in Saskatchewan. And we have
that ability.
And
I think it’s very frustrating for those of us in the House here to stand up,
acknowledge that, say that repeatedly, consistently. And the government knows
this, right? The government knows this. They bring up resolutions that didn’t
make it to the floor let alone be debated, let alone be voted on, that our
members in their wisdom voted so low on the priority list that they didn’t even
make the floor. They know that. And I get it. I get, you know, again this is
dizzying political minds and the strategy over there. I get what they’re doing.
I understand it.
[11:30]
But
it is frustrating when something so important that should not be a partisan
debate in the House — support for our energy industry, support for our energy
workers, support for getting our product to market — is used as such a cynical
wedge. You know, a cynical wedge.
And
you know, this is . . . again being baffled by this being the debate.
I tell you what. We’ve been . . . even last time, like, 75‑minute
debates where we go, oh, that’s a good one and who’s going to talk and then how
. . . And it shouldn’t probably be how 75‑minute debates work,
where the government presents something and we’re all absolutely delighted on
this side of the House to be able to talk about that. I mean, keep it coming.
You know what I mean?
You
know, you could put one forward next on maybe support for food banks that have
the highest rates of use in the country, or you know . . . Anyways
keep it coming, Mr. Speaker. We’d love to see it.
You
know, one thing that we’re disappointed to see — and again this goes back to
this government being in power for a generation and their inability to actually
get projects done — very disappointed to see that Alberta’s kind of western
pipeline doesn’t appear to be in the latest list of approved major projects.
Again we’re completely unsure of what Saskatchewan’s major projects that were
submitted were because the government has refused to release the list.
But
you know, the government says to us, like talk to your people. And I think it’s
a better question is — they’re in government — of who they’re talking to. And
the relationship with the federal government has been so broken through sabre
rattling and chest pounding under this government that it has made it even
harder for us to get the job done here in Saskatchewan, right. We need to have
a government that is focused on actually getting results for the people of
Saskatchewan instead of this consistent gamesmanship that we see, this
consistent partisanship that we see.
Well
I think the people of Saskatchewan want to see the members opposite and this
government say, look, the NDP agrees with us that we need to get this done. We
have cross-partisan agreement and acceptance. That happens so rarely in the
Westminster system here, and they’re squandering that opportunity and
squandering the resources we have and the ability to actually build things and
get things done, Mr. Speaker.
You
know, so I’m looking forward to the questions we have. I don’t think I’ll be
particularly shocked with anything we stand up with. But maybe this time
they’ll have more than one or two written down from the issues managers
opposite, Mr. Speaker. But I very much look forward to this debate.
Again
as I’ve said, any time that myself and my colleagues get to stand up and once
again, Mr. Speaker, put on the record our support for our energy industry, our
support for building trade-enabling infrastructure, our support for oil and
gas, and our support for oil and gas workers is always going to be a fantastic
day. And so once again, on the opposition side, we support this motion that
calls on the government for the government to support a pipeline to the West
Coast of Canada.
I
look forward to the debate, Mr. Speaker, to hear from my colleagues, to hear
from them opposite. But I would urge them to take yes for an answer, move ahead
of this partisan debate, and get the job done. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from White
City-Qu’Appelle.
Brad Crassweller: — Thank you, Deputy Speaker. I look
forward to the opportunity to address you today, and I want to take you
actually back to the last time I addressed you in a 75‑minute debate. And
I want to bring up one word I spent most of my time talking about, and that
word was commitment.
Mr.
Deputy Speaker, we talked about the fact that commitment is a really
interesting word. It’s a word that’s real easy to say, but it’s not so easy to
actually make good on many times. Many times if you look around our world,
you’ll see commitment to many varying degrees. But along with that, Mr. Deputy
Speaker, you see the ramifications or the consequences of that varying degree
of commitment. And I fully believe that commitment can make or break a
business, can make or break a sports team, and make or break relationships.
Commitment is vital. Matter of fact, it’s crucial to success in life.
And,
Mr. Speaker, we saw a great example of this, this past weekend, with the Riders
in the Western Final. And, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I would ask you, how many of us
thought it was a good idea to go for it on 3rd and 10? I was yelling at my TV,
we should go for it. Don’t kick a field goal; we got to go for it. Or go for it
on third down instead of punting it away. The time was running out, Mr.
Speaker. But you know what? Coach Mace was committed. He was committed to his
defence. He was committed to his plan. He was committed to his strategy. And in
the end, Mr. Deputy Speaker, it worked out pretty well.
But
today as we enter debate, I want to pick up where I left off and actually take
this concept and this word, commitment, a little bit further because, again, we
spend a lot of time talking about commitment. We could talk about varying
levels of commitment, degrees of commitment to different ideas and projects,
whether it be a sports team, a business team, relationships. Again, commitment
is vital, crucial to success.
But,
Mr. Deputy Speaker, I think we need to take it further because what is
critically important is a commitment to the right things, a commitment to the
right policies, a commitment to the right actions. And, Mr. Deputy Speaker, the
problem is many times, people and organizations are committed, but they’re
committed to the wrong things. We see this in every aspect in life.
And we can joke about sports teams, but
many times in life people find themselves committed to things that are
ultimately very damaging and destructive to themselves, to their families, to
their communities, and even to an entire nation. But, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I’m
proud to say that this government has a history — and I would say it’s a long
history — of being committed to the right things.
I’d have to take you back and we could
talk about the fact that this government is committed to economic growth and
job creation through the private sector, not government, as the engine of the
economy.
Well, Mr. Speaker, how has that
commitment worked out? Well we have one of the strongest GDPs [gross domestic
product], some of the lowest unemployment, the best credit rating in Canada,
the most affordable place to buy a home, to live and work and raise a family.
Mr. Speaker, we’ve made record
investments in education and health care, and it’s only due to the strong
economy that we see here in Saskatchewan, which is only due to a commitment to
the right things along the way. So, Mr. Speaker, the things that I’m going to
share with you in just a minute are only possible because this government long
ago was committed to the right things, the right policies, the right direction
at the right time, enabling us to build — and listen to this, Mr. Deputy
Speaker, this is amazing — enabling us to build, renovate, or replace 115
schools since 2008, and enabling us to build, renovate, or upgrade 31
hospitals, long-term care centres, and integrated facilities throughout our
province since 2010.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, that’s only made
possible by a strong economy which comes from a commitment to the right things.
The other bookend of that first commitment, Mr. Deputy Speaker, that I just
talked about, is that this government is also committed to the constant
improvement of Saskatchewan’s economic and social conditions within a strong
and unified Canada. Again, Mr. Deputy Speaker, a commitment to the right
things, to the right policies, to the right relationships.
With our trade offices around the world,
for example, those relationships and that commitment made so long ago is paying
off in dividends, huge dividends, Mr. Deputy Speaker. And this government and
the policies and the laws that have been put in place over the years are
working, and that’s why we have a strong economy. That’s why we have safer
communities, and that’s why we have a secure future.
You see, Mr. Deputy Speaker, it’s a
commitment. And our government is renewing those commitments, signing a
memorandum of understanding with Alberta and Ontario to start a feasibility
study for the advancement of an east-west energy corridor. Our government is
supportive of an economic corridor that runs from Alberta to Southern Ontario —
an economic corridor that will continue to grow our economy, to grow the
economy of other provinces — because we’re committed to the constant
improvement of Saskatchewan’s economic and social conditions, as well as those
of our neighbours in this great nation we call Canada.
Building an east-west corridor, Mr.
Deputy Speaker, would be a nation-building project that would support a more competitive and resilient Canadian economy
and would bring us closer to our goal of becoming an energy superpower as our
Prime Minister has indicated. Mr. Deputy Speaker, we’ll continue to be
committed to the right things at the right time. And right now, one of those
things is another pipeline to the West Coast. We’re Canada’s second-largest oil
producer, the sixth-largest onshore producer in Canada and the US [United
States], where we have estimated oil reserves of almost 1.6 billion
barrels.
Mr. Deputy
Speaker, our Saskatchewan has excellent refining and upgrading capacity and an
extensive network of pipelines. We have robust production capabilities
currently averaging 440,000 barrels a day, and we’re on target to produce
600,000 barrels per day by 2030. Mr. Speaker, it’s all supported by competitive
royalties, established infrastructure, and enhanced recovery technologies. This
key energy sector in Saskatchewan offers significant opportunities for
investment. But, Mr. Deputy Speaker, we need another pipeline. We need to get
to tidewater. We need to diversify our markets. And once again, this government
is committed to the right things, the right direction at the right time.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, I want to quote
something out of the National Post, and here’s what it said:
The real
“double-talk” comes from those who acknowledge Canada’s productivity crisis and
over-dependence on the US economy and then do nothing to support the best idea
to address these problems, namely pipelines to the West Coast and new markets
in Asia.
Again, this government is committed to
the right thing at the right time.
I’m going to share another quote with
you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, from Lisa Baiton, president and CEO of the Canadian
Association of Petroleum Producers. Here’s what she said: “Saskatchewan is a
jurisdiction that understands the importance of policy alignment, regulatory
efficiency, and investment attraction.”
Mr. Deputy Speaker, what she’s saying is
the Government of Saskatchewan is committed to the right direction, to the
right policies at the right time to enable growth, to stimulate growth.
She says this: “To support this
ambition, Saskatchewan has introduced a suite of forward-thinking policy tools
designed to stimulate private sector investment.” One of the things we
committed to long ago, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
She goes on to acknowledge that the
revenue generated for this province funds such initiatives that I just spoke
about — new hospitals, new schools, new infrastructure, more social programs.
You see, Mr. Deputy Speaker, it’s not just this government that stands up and
acknowledges that these type of commitments generate revenue that allows us to
invest into many areas for the betterment of everyone in this great province.
She refers to them as dividends of responsible development, and I couldn’t
agree more. The Government of Saskatchewan remains committed to developing a
positive climate for new and established oil and gas companies.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, with all that I’ve
just talked about, we can see that not only do we need another pipeline to the
West Coast, but we’re also ready to fill it, and by doing so will benefit the
entire province in so many areas of need — from building more hospitals and
schools to continue to improve our infrastructure, to keep Saskatchewan growing
and improving, to continue to be the best place in Canada to live and work and
raise a family.
Mr. Speaker, just this past weekend
Nathan Rourke, the quarterback for the BC Lions, after scoring a touchdown
looked into the camera and he said, it’s our time. Mr. Speaker, he was wrong,
because with 11 seconds left in the game, Trevor Harris and Tommy Nield
completed an incredible comeback to correct the story to say, no, it’s our
time; it’s Rider time.
But I will agree, Mr. Deputy Speaker,
that BC and Alberta and Saskatchewan should work together with regard to a new
pipeline to the West Coast. Mr. Deputy Speaker, it’s our time. And that’s why I
support this motion brought by the member from Kindersley-Biggar:
That this Assembly
call upon the Government of Saskatchewan to support the development of a new
Canadian pipeline to carry Saskatchewan and Alberta oil to the West Coast of
Canada.
Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, for your
time. God bless you and God bless Saskatchewan.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod:
— I recognize the member from Saskatoon Riversdale.
Kim Breckner: — Thank you, Mr.
Deputy Speaker. And I’d like to thank my colleague, the MLA from Regina
University, for clarifying the absurd notion of this motion. I thought I just
had pregnancy brain. I was looking at it and like, yeah, okay. Sounds good. But
I guess I’ll find something to debate here.
[11:45]
First of all, let me be perfectly clear.
The Saskatchewan NDP supports the development of a new Canadian pipeline to
carry Saskatchewan oil to the West Coast of Canada. We support it because we
support getting our resources to tidewater to access global markets and secure
the best return for the people of this province.
In fact our vision goes beyond just one
project. We have consistently called for the expanding access to global markets
for all Saskatchewan products. And that requires strategic investments in the
trade-enabling infrastructure that makes it possible, not just pipelines but
ports, rail lines, and power lines.
But, Mr. Deputy Speaker, there’s a
crucial element that this government consistently overlooks. When we talk about
building a pipeline, we’re not just talking about moving a product. We’re
talking about building something, and that building should be done by
Saskatchewan hands. It should be done with Saskatchewan steel and by the best
steelworkers in the world right here in this province.
Let me be clear again. We want pipelines
built by Saskatchewan steelworkers. This isn’t just a sentimental motion; it’s
an economic imperative. Using Saskatchewan steel would create jobs, stimulate
our local economies, and be a point of immense provincial pride. It’s a
win-win. Maybe here I’d insert a sports metaphor, but I don’t really have one
handy.
Yet what do we see from this Sask Party
government? A pattern of failure and missed opportunities that have left our
workers and our industry behind. Let’s look at their record. While it’s
refreshing to see the Sask Party champion a pipeline through Western Canada, it
was as recently as February — well into the US tariffs war — that the Premier
championed building a pipeline to the US. And while he championed more
dependence on the US economy, he failed to stand up to Trump on tariffs. And
we’re still seeing the results of this Premier’s inaction on tariffs.
This is a government that, in their most
recent budget, provided no measures to address the impact of these
international tariffs and no contingency plan to protect our industries.
They’re simply not prepared for the realities of this global economy.
Also this is a government that has a,
for some reason, secret priority list of infrastructure projects that they’ve
provided to the federal government, but they have point-blank refused to tell
the people of Saskatchewan, the very people that they serve, what projects are
on the list. What are they hiding? Is the new West Coast pipeline even on that
list? We don’t know.
And, Mr. Deputy Speaker, this is a
government that talks a big game about Saskatchewan jobs. But when it comes to
actually planning for a pipeline, like the one in the recent memorandum of
understanding between Ontario and Alberta and Saskatchewan to build the
pipeline east, what happened? They handed our pipeline jobs to Ontario. They
signed on the dotted line that that manufacturing and fabrication work would be
sent down the line. They are not standing up for steelworkers in this province,
even though doing so would massively boost our provincial economy.
Let’s talk about their actual 18‑year
record on pipelines. They’ve been in the government for nearly two decades. In
that time . . .
[Applause]
Kim Breckner: — Okay, great. How
many pipelines have you built? Yay, still waiting.
I mean, there was one. There was one.
But who paid for it? The Trans Mountain pipeline expansion, who paid for it?
Who navigated the complexities and the hurdles to get it past the finish line?
It was the federal government under Justin Trudeau. I know, Trudeau bad, boo.
And this government takes a victory lap for a project they didn’t plan, didn’t
pay for, and didn’t build. News flash: to build a pipeline, you can’t just say
all pipelines are pre-approved. It takes real planning, real commitment, real consultation
with the stakeholders. A commitment — something something sports, you know.
The Sask Party government’s record is
one of inaction and outsourcing. They’ve had 18 years to champion a new
pipeline to the West Coast, and we have nothing to show for it but empty
rhetoric.
Now they have a new ally in Ottawa. They
have a Conservative leader, Pierre Poilievre, who they stand with, who they
champion. He too talks a great game about pipelines.
So I have a simple question for the
government: have you asked Pierre Poilievre to get a new pipeline to the West
Coast? Have you presented him with a concrete plan? Have you demanded his
commitment? Because if you have and one isn’t being announced, it can only mean
one of two things. Either you haven’t actually asked, or you have and Pierre
Poilievre just can’t deliver. So which is it? Are you failing to ask, or is the
federal government ally failing to deliver? Saskatchewan people deserve an
answer.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, the contrast could
not be clearer. The Sask Party offers words. The Saskatchewan NDP offers a
vision and a plan. We envision a province where our resources get to market,
creating wealth that benefits every single citizen. We envision a province
where the infrastructure we build — the pipelines, the power lines — are
constructed with Saskatchewan steel by Saskatchewan workers. We believe in a
future where we don’t just extract resources but we build things, we
manufacture things, and we create lasting value right here at home.
We support this motion because it aligns
with our long-held principles, but a vote for this motion is not an endorsement
of this government’s failed record. It is a call for them to finally do their
job. It is time for this government to stop the secrecy, stop outsourcing our
jobs, and start fighting for Saskatchewan workers with the same passion we on
this side of the House demonstrate every single day.
And I can’t help but to notice that this
government is stuck in the past again. I think I heard something about 1975. Oh
my goodness. Let’s get a bit more recent. When I say that the Saskatchewan NDP
has a plan for the future, supports our resource industry, we can look as
recently as this century.
In 2005 Premier Calvert changed the
royalty structure. That structure is largely in place today. It’s a structure,
a royalty structure, a leasing structure that enabled oil and gas development.
We became a have province. We ran a surplus. I just pulled up this article
from, you know, several years ago but more recent than 1970‑whatever,
from the Saskatchewan Chamber of Commerce, where they say:
In 2003 and 2005,
the NDP government made major changes to the potash production tax system to
help the industry realize its immense growth and potential in Saskatchewan. The
province is now seeing results from these initiatives. The economic spinoff in jobs
created by the industry’s increased capital investment and capacity is
spreading wealth across the province.
From
the Saskatchewan Chamber of Commerce. So maybe we need to stop . . .
Well I shouldn’t give the government advice, but I can’t help myself. They do
need it. And perhaps instead of looking back, I don’t know . . . How
long ago was 1970 — 30, 40? Fifty years. Maybe they should look back on the
past 18 years. Yeah. I mean even the past seven. Let’s look at the past seven.
The government talks about trade
diversification. We’ve actually seen trade diversification decrease over the
past seven years. The plan isn’t working. We need to be more ambitious, we need
to be more future focused. And for that I support this motion, and in doing so
I call this government to get to work.
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Moosomin-Montmartre.
Kevin Weedmark: — Thank you very
much, Mr. Deputy Speaker. The question before us is support of development of a
new pipeline to carry Saskatchewan oil to the West Coast of Canada.
It’s an important question. The lack of
pipeline capacity has created a huge disparity in the value of oil produced in
Saskatchewan compared with oil produced just south of the border, and that has
cost Saskatchewan billions of dollars. And it continues to cost Saskatchewan
more than a billion dollars a year in lost sales. It’s cost Saskatchewan jobs,
it’s cost Saskatchewan tax revenue, and it has limited the growth potential of
the oil industry and the province.
But this is part of a larger question
which will define Saskatchewan’s future: whether our governments will unleash
our potential or restrain it.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, few places on earth
are as blessed in natural resources as we are here in Saskatchewan. We’re
blessed with vast farm land, with uranium vital to powering the world, with
potash that helps farmers feed the world, and with rare earth minerals that
will drive the next generation of technology. And yes, we have oil — ethically
produced, responsibly produced oil that can power economies, support families,
and build communities for generations to come.
But Saskatchewan oil doesn’t have enough
access to global markets through Canada’s West Coast. A new pipeline to the
West Coast isn’t just about oil. It’s about opportunity, about giving
Saskatchewan the infrastructure it needs to compete, to grow, and to lead.
And the numbers are truly staggering,
Mr. Speaker. In 2024 alone, the lack of pipeline capacity cost Saskatchewan oil
producers $1.6 billion in lost revenue. And that same year, the lack of
pipeline capacity cost the Government of Saskatchewan $130 million in lost
taxes, royalties, and other revenue. And we don’t have to guess at the impact
of greater pipeline capacity on the price paid for Saskatchewan oil. We can
look at the facts.
We can look at the example of the Trans
Mountain pipeline expansion, the TMX [Trans Mountain Expansion], and we can see
exactly what happened when we have added pipeline capacity. In the months
leading up to the start up of the TMX, the price differential between Western
Canada Select, the price paid for Western Canadian oil, and West Texas
Intermediate had widened to an average of 18.70 a barrel from September 2023 to
April 2024. And after the start up of TMX, that differential narrowed to an
average of just $12 US a barrel from June 2024 to July 2025.
With oil production growth expected in
the coming years, more pipeline capacity will be needed or we’ll be back in the
same situation — a rising differential. And the time to act is now.
So we have seen the benefits of the TMX,
but believe it or not, Mr. Deputy Speaker, not everyone was in favour of the
Trans Mountain Expansion. The member for Regina Elphinstone-Centre wrote on
Facebook, “Any political agenda that takes climate change seriously doesn’t
have any room for the Trans Mountain Expansion, and most regular people
understand this intuitively.” Well I’m glad that the decision on the expansion,
which has benefited Saskatchewan, was not based on that member’s intuitive
knowledge.
But I take it that member is not
interested in the growth of the Saskatchewan oil industry and the Saskatchewan
economy, as she also wrote, “If our society relies on a destructive, finite
resource, boom-bust economy to fix income inequality, that’s a big problem. But
it’s not a reason to keep pumping oil.” And that seems to be a common attitude
on the other side of the aisle. The member for Regina Walsh Acres wrote on X,
“You can’t address climate change by extracting more oil.”
Mr. Speaker, our government doesn’t
disparage our resources or the people who develop them because we understand
the importance of what they can add to our province. We have amazing resources
under our feet, and we are a province built by resourceful, resilient, and
determined people. We have oil field workers who put in long hours in the
coldest weather imaginable to provide for their families. I know many people in
my constituency who make their living pipelining, working on the rigs, and I
know that it can be incredibly hard work. I was fortunate to visit a couple of
oil rigs this summer and learn more about just how difficult that life is.
We have innovators, Mr. Deputy Speaker,
who find new ways to do things better, cleaner, and more efficiently. Including
my home community where IJack is manufacturing equipment in Moosomin that’s
making a huge difference in the efficiency of the oil industry and is selling
those products — engineered, designed, manufactured in Moosomin — all around
the world. We have entrepreneurs and community builders who see opportunity
where others see obstacles.
These are the same people who will build
Saskatchewan’s future if we let them. But for that to happen, governments must
be partners, not barriers. And too often the federal government has put up
barriers to the pipelines that can safely get our oil to market. Without
pipelines, demand for crude on the rails increases, and our rail-dependent
industries pay the price — mining, manufacturing, forestry, and agriculture.
[12:00]
And transporting oil by rail puts lives
at risk. A few years ago, we hosted a pro-pipeline rally in Moosomin that
attracted leaders from across the country. That very day of the rally, an oil
train derailed at St. Lazare just across the border of Manitoba, and one of our
organizing committee members missed the rally because he was responding to that
derailment. That kind of incident can happen in any community along the rail
lines. And because of that, getting the oil off of rail and into pipelines is something
that will benefit our economy, something that will free up rail capacity for
other goods, but also a matter of safety, meaning less oil travelling through
Saskatchewan communities on rail.
And that’s unfortunate because every
time we block a pipeline or stall a resource project, we’re not just blocking
that project. We block jobs. We block hope. We block the chance for communities
to thrive. When we hold back the energy sector, we’re not just holding back
companies. We’re holding back workers, communities, and regions that depend on
resource development. We’re holding back the tax revenue that pays for
everything we need in this province. We’re holding back opportunity for the
next generation.
Imagine what Saskatchewan could do if
our energy could flow freely to tidewater through a new pipeline to the West
Coast. Imagine the jobs created not just in oil and gas, but in construction,
manufacturing, transportation, and service industries that support those
projects. Imagine the investment that would flow into Saskatchewan communities,
supporting small businesses, strengthening local economies, and giving young
people another reason to build their future right here at home. Imagine the
royalties and tax revenues that could go toward better health care for our
seniors, better schools, and better infrastructure for our communities.
And all it takes is for government to
get out of the way, to trust the people who have built this province from the
ground up. Mr. Speaker, government’s job should be to set the stage for
success, not to script the play. We should ensure that development is safe,
responsible, and sustainable. But we should never let regulation become
strangulation. And, Mr. Speaker, we saw with Energy East and with previous
proposals for pipelines to the West Coast that the federal government extended
regulations to the point where projects couldn’t move forward. In those cases,
federal regulation became strangulation.
Mr. Speaker, this government has always
advocated for pipeline construction. And in many votes in the House, the NDP
has opposed it in the past. The opposition NDP stood in this House and voted
against supporting construction of the Northern Gateway pipeline, as approved
by the National Energy Board, and voted against the promotion of the Keystone
XL pipeline as well.
Mr. Speaker, the world needs more
Saskatchewan, and a new pipeline to the West Coast is one way of delivering
just that. And economic growth, resource development, and prosperity are not
ends in themselves. They’re the tools, the means by which we build a better
life for the people we serve.
Mr. Speaker, the promise of Saskatchewan
has always been simple. If you work hard, if you dream big, anything is
possible. Let’s build the pipelines, unlock the potential, and trust the people
of Saskatchewan. Between the resources under our feet and the resourcefulness,
resilience, and drive of Saskatchewan people, there’s no limit to what this
province can achieve. And that’s why I support this motion and a new pipeline
to the West Coast of Canada. Thank you very much.
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from Regina
South Albert.
Aleana Young: — Why thank you so
very much, Mr. Deputy Speaker. It’s another 75‑minute debate, my
favourite time of the week, Mr. Deputy Speaker, and I think it’s incumbent on
me to once again remind government members this is supposed to be fun. This is
supposed to be enjoyable, a nice cathartic end to the week. But again we see, as
my colleagues have canvassed, a bit of a peculiarity today, Mr. Speaker.
As was noted by the member from Regina
University, typically 75‑minute debates are, you know, an opportunity for
us to debate matters on which we disagree. But despite the best efforts of
members opposite to not listen to the 30 minutes of debate thus far, this is
actually a matter on which we agree, Mr. Deputy Speaker. And we do agree that
this motion — again calling on the Government of Saskatchewan to support the
development of a new Canadian pipeline to carry Saskatchewan oil to the West
Coast — is great.
It is odd, of course, Mr. Deputy
Speaker, that the Government of Saskatchewan feels the need to call on the
Government of Saskatchewan to support this. You know, there have been some
questions today on which side of the House supports the development of a new
pipeline to the West Coast, Mr. Speaker. And based on the text of this motion,
I’m going to suggest that it’s members on the government side who seem to need
reassurance as to whether or not the Government of Saskatchewan actually
supports this endeavour. Crack research team over there, Mr. Speaker, as the
saying in this House so often goes.
You know, my colleagues have canvassed a
pipeline to the West Coast very, very thoroughly. But I want to take a little
dance through what was mentioned, I believe, by both members on my side, which
was the unusual occurrence this summer in which Premier Moe stood next to
Premier Ford in a news release on July 22nd titled, “Saskatchewan joins Ontario
and Alberta in agreement to build new energy and trade infrastructure.”
I saw this and I was like, great, let’s
get things built. More pipelines, rail lines, power lines. But it was peculiar,
Mr. Speaker. In reading this press release again from the Government of
Ontario, from the Office of the Premier, which says, and I will quote:
“As the world
grapples with President Trump’s unfair tariffs, it’s more important than ever
to build a resilient and self-reliant economy here at home,” said Premier Ford.
[I agree.] “This agreement sends a clear message [he goes on]: Ontario,
Alberta, and Saskatchewan are ready to get shovels in the ground and move
forward on projects that will secure our long-term prosperity.”
Again, no disagreement there, Mr.
Speaker. And then in the very next paragraph, it says at the very top:
Today’s MOU calls
for the new pipelines to be built using Ontario steel along a route that will
connect Western Canadian oil and gas to new and existing refineries in southern
Ontario, as well as a new deep-sea port in James Bay.
Now, Mr. Speaker, I’m not precisely
clear what facility in Ontario Premiers Ford, Smith, and our very own Premier
Moe think will be building pipelines with Ontario steel, because it’s actually
Interpro Pipe and Steel here in Regina, here in Saskatchewan, that builds the
pipe necessary for pipelines. It’s not a mill in Ontario.
And it’s peculiar, Mr. Deputy Speaker,
to see the Premier of Saskatchewan again sign on to this — he’s quoted in the
very next paragraph — sign on to this press release from Premier Ford saying
that new pipelines will be built with Ontario steel. That’s peculiar, Mr.
Speaker. Yeah, frankly it is unbelievable.
I know members opposite are proud of the
fact that they’ve managed to find Evraz on a map recently. But let’s be clear,
Mr. Speaker, that these pipelines, whether they be going west or east, should
be carrying Western Canadian oil and gas to markets, and they should be built
using Saskatchewan steel.
This isn’t just about supporting local,
Mr. Speaker. They’re the only game in town. They’re the only plant that could
be building this. So again, it’s very, very unusual to see the Premier of
Saskatchewan again stand up, sign a news release with his name, throwing the
hard-working men and women of our local steel mill under the bus, sending their
jobs to Ontario, to plants that don’t currently exist.
But, Mr. Speaker, this speaks to this
government’s record when it comes to actually getting things built and focusing
on the economy of Saskatchewan. I dug into this MOU, Mr. Speaker, which again,
you know, speaks to the necessity of building new energy and trade
infrastructure. But again, Mr. Speaker, it has Saskatchewan in third place.
Every mention of Ontario, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Saskatchewan comes third.
It speaks about unlocking the potential
of Alberta’s energy sector and embracing Ontario’s manufacturing sector, and
Saskatchewan throughout is an afterthought. And far too often, that is this
government’s strategy across the country when it comes to building this
critical infrastructure and when it comes to promoting the necessary industrial
growth that we need to see here in Saskatchewan.
In this province we believe in a few
things, and I like to choose to believe that members on all sides believe this.
We believe in the value of our land and we believe in the promise of our
people, Mr. Deputy Speaker. And we shouldn’t just be selling what we dig up. We
should be building. We should be refining. We should be processing, innovating,
and employing right here in Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker. That’s why the natural
resources that we’re blessed with here in Saskatchewan are critical to building
a prosperous and wealthy province.
There’s no disagreement in this House,
Mr. Speaker, whether it’s oil and gas or whether it’s the potash industry —
which again, it was this government who raised the royalty rates on the potash
industry not eight short years ago. We don’t have to go back to the 1950s. It
was former minister Eyre, Mr. Speaker, who raised those royalty rates on the
potash industry. And they were not thrilled about that, Mr. Speaker. Yeah, they
were quite unimpressed. I think I have a quote here. What did they say? Nutrien
said that “with these changes, Saskatchewan’s potash production will be subject
to the highest royalty and tax rates in the world.” And what a shame, Mr.
Speaker.
But far too often, whether it’s potash,
whether it’s oil and gas, whether it’s forestry, whether it’s the bounty of all
that we have in this province, this government’s plan is to tax more and
deliver less for Saskatchewan people. They have delivered zero pipelines in
nearly two decades in office, Mr. Speaker. None.
They have a record currently of
cancelled megaprojects: canola crush plants, biodiesel, the mill in P.A.
[Prince Albert] — which I believe this government campaigned on reopening in
2007, probably 2011, 2016. I remember in 2020, the moves with the wood
allotment, and yet here we are again. Oh, and 2024 I think they also moved the
wood allotment again. I’m seeing some nods from members from P.A. opposite, Mr.
Speaker.
Yet here we are. Stalled industrial
growth. Stagnant wages plummeting below Western Canadian averages. We see head
office jobs moving. We see no pipelines built to the West or the East Coast
under this government. We see, again, the Premier of Saskatchewan signing on to
an MOU which commits to building new pipelines not with Saskatchewan steel but
with Ontario steel, Mr. Speaker. Tax more, deliver less — that is the plan of
this government.
So I’m pleased that we have the
opportunity to stand and agree that the Government of Saskatchewan should
support the development of a new pipeline to carry Saskatchewan oil. Whether it
be to the West Coast, Mr. Speaker, the East Coast, there’s no disagreement on
this side.
What you will find on this side of the
aisle, Mr. Speaker, is great impatience because the people of this province
have been waiting for 18 years for this government to act, for this government
to build the relationships necessary to get industry truly going here in
Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker. And they quite simply have failed.
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — The 65‑minute period has
expired. The 10‑minute question-and-answer period will begin. I recognize
the member from Prince Albert Carlton.
Kevin Kasun: — Thank you, Mr.
Deputy Speaker. During the opposition’s 2025 convention, their party advocated
for a resolution that calls on the government, and I quote, “take ownership of
public socialized oil and gas sector.” Yes-or-no question to the member from
Saskatoon Riversdale: do you believe in socializing oil and gas sector in
Saskatchewan like your colleagues do? Yes or no?
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon Riversdale.
Kim Breckner: — Thank you, Mr.
Deputy Speaker. The question was, something something, do I socialize like my
colleagues do? Okay, which one of you commies wants to socialize? No, I don’t
think myself or any of my colleagues wish to socialize our resource industry.
[12:15]
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I
recognize the member from Regina University.
Sally Housser: — Thank you very much, Mr. Deputy Speaker. This is an
odd one, but it’s just that the wording of this motion in addition to its
intent is baffling to me. So I would love it if the member for
Kindersley-Biggar could just walk me through the thought process on the
government calling on itself to support a pipeline to the West instead of, say,
calling on the federal government to do so. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from Kindersley-Biggar.
Kim Gartner: — Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. And I want to thank
the member opposite for the question. You know, if debate was a drama class
homework assignment, we know the members opposite definitely have an advantage.
But the question to me is to explain . . . The member from Saskatoon
Riversdale also doesn’t like to have history lessons.
Well history
is important, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Knowing your history and what previous NDP
governments have done to our oil and gas industry is
important. Their past is what they are. It is what their policy began as an
idea and became a reality, Mr. Speaker.
We don’t build pipelines. We promote
policies to encourage pipeline development.
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon Riversdale.
Kim Breckner: — Okay, I’m asking
the question. Where does the member for White City-Qu’Appelle expect the steel
for any future pipelines to be produced?
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from White
City-Qu’Appelle.
Brad
Crassweller: —
Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. As I’ve already said, this government has been
committed throughout our time governing this province, and this government will
continue to be committed to the energy sector in any and every way possible,
giving them the tools they need to succeed, to continue to make Saskatchewan
the best place to live and work and raise a family.
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Dakota-Arm River.
Barret Kropf: — Thank you, Mr.
Deputy Speaker. To the member from Saskatoon Riversdale: your colleague from
Saskatoon Nutana said, and I quote:
The global oil and
gas market is undergoing a massive shift, which is making our domestic market
less competitive. Instead of pipelines, we should be building an east-west
electricity grid.
Do you support these comments opposing
pipeline development made by your colleague?
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon Riversdale.
Kim Breckner: — Thank you, Mr.
Deputy Speaker. Maybe if I say it very slowly it’ll sink in. The Saskatchewan
NDP supports a pipeline to the West Coast of Canada.
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from Regina
South Albert.
Aleana Young: — Thank you very
much, Mr. Speaker. I have a question. We’re talking a lot about competitiveness
here in Saskatchewan, so my question is for the member to Moosomin. Now just
last year, I believe it was March 31st, this government said that as of April
1st Saskatchewan would be the first carbon tax-free jurisdiction in Canada. And
yet, before . . . Oh, oh, oh. Wait, wait. To the member from P.A.
Carlton, before you clap for yourself, I have been unable to get the Minister
for Environment to clarify for me what legislative or regulatory mechanism the
Government of Saskatchewan used to eliminate their very own Sask Party carbon
tax.
So to the member for Moosomin: can you
tell me, does the carbon tax exist in Saskatchewan? Yes or no?
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Moosomin-Montmartre.
Kevin Weedmark: — Mr. Speaker, I’ll
maybe bring the topic of debate back to what we’re talking about today, which
is a pipeline to the West Coast. And we on this side, Mr. Speaker, have always
stood for pipelines. We have always stood for construction of a pipeline to the
West Coast, Mr. Speaker.
I will remind the members opposite that
six years ago we had an effort in my hometown in Moosomin to try to restart the
national conversation on pipelines. We called it Energy East 2.0. We had a
massive event in Moosomin. The federal Conservative leader showed up; leaders
from across the country showed up; the premier of Nova Scotia came to Moosomin,
Saskatchewan, to show his support for a new pipeline.
And, Mr. Speaker, there’s one group in
this House that did not show up. Lots of members on this side showed up. There
was no opposition there at all. They did not show up for that event to stand up
for Saskatchewan.
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from Carrot
River Valley.
Terri Bromm: — Thank you, Mr.
Deputy Speaker. One more time to the members opposite for clarity. To the
member from Saskatoon Riversdale: do you believe in socializing the oil and gas
sector in Saskatchewan like your colleagues do? Will you denounce your
colleagues who do support the socialization of our resource sector as proposed
at your recent convention?
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon Riversdale.
Kim Breckner: — Mr. Speaker, the
question has been asked and answered.
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from Regina
South Albert.
Aleana Young: — Mr. Speaker, it
seems that the Government of Saskatchewan can’t find enough to talk about when
we’re talking about building pipelines. What a heady day for the opposition
here in the House, Mr. Speaker.
To the member from Moosomin: is the
member aware, has the Premier of Saskatchewan picked up the phone, called
Pierre Poilievre, and asked for his support on building a pipeline? If so, why
hasn’t he gotten it done?
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Moosomin-Montmartre.
Kevin Weedmark: — Thank you very
much, Mr. Deputy Speaker. Our government has gone on the record and has worked
with other provinces to try to promote nation-building projects like pipelines.
We recently signed a memorandum of understanding and the opposition likes to quote
from a news release about that memorandum of understanding.
But in that memorandum of understanding,
our province, Alberta, and Ontario are going to work collaboratively to launch
a preliminary joint feasibility study this year in order to help move a private
sector-led investments in rail, pipeline, and port projects across the country.
So our government is standing up. Our government is working with governments at
all levels to try to move pipelines and other nation-building projects forward.
Thank you.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from Moose Jaw Wakamow.
Megan
Patterson: — Thank you,
Mr. Deputy Speaker. To the MLA from Saskatoon Riversdale: if the Saskatchewan
NDP so strongly support a West Coast pipeline, why don’t they work with their
BC NDP counterparts and Premier Eby to convince them of the national benefits
of a West Coast pipeline?
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Riversdale.
Kim Breckner: — Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. It doesn’t
seem to be getting through. Maybe en français [Translation: in French] this
time.
Le NPD
[Nouveau Parti démocratique] de la Saskatchewan appuie toutes les
infrastructures favorisant le commerce, y compris les pipelines énergétiques.
[Translation:
The Saskatchewan NDP supports all infrastructure that favours commerce,
including energy pipelines.]
And we have been clear about this to all
members of provincial governments, federal governments. In advance of the
election we sent out a letter calling for this trade-enabling infrastructure.
We have been very clear on this, in multiple languages now, that we support a
pipeline to the West Coast.
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from Regina University.
Sally Housser: — Mr. Speaker, I see
we’re getting down to our time here, but the member from Moosomin mentioned
this MOU that we talked about a fair amount today, and seeing as how we’re in
the habit of re-asking questions here, I would like to get a little more
specific.
What does he have to say to the
steelworkers at Evraz about the Premier signing over their jobs to Ontario and
building . . .
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — This 75‑minute debate period
has expired.
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from Regina Walsh Acres.
Jared Clarke: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. I rise today to move second reading of Bill No. 606, The Provincial Health Authority (ER Closure right-to-know)
Amendment Act.
I
think this is really about patient safety, Mr. Deputy Speaker. We have seen far
too many instances in this province in the last eight years where folks show up
to their local hospital and find a piece of paper on the door telling them that
it’s closed. And so again we want to talk . . . This bill is a
band-aid mechanism, a short-term fix to try and give Saskatchewan people more
transparency about whether or not their hospital is open.
We
have seen an increase of 800 per cent in hospital closures in the province
during the Premier’s time in office. This is a significant increase to hospital
closures, and I think really puts folks who live in rural Saskatchewan in a
really hard place. In a number of instances — and we’ve talked about those in
the Assembly here — there have been instances where a person goes to their
local hospital only to find a closed sign on the door redirecting them to
another hospital, them driving to that second hospital only to find another
piece of paper on the door telling them that that hospital is also closed.
These
errors, I would call them, are going to cost someone their life or cause very,
very serious health implications for someone’s loved one. These situations
should not be happening. Saskatchewan people deserve better than that. They
should be able to trust their government that health care will be there for
them when and where they need it.
And
so this bill that I’m moving second reading of today tries to implement some
transparency for people so in the moment of an emergency, ensuring that all
health care professionals know when the hospital closures are happening so
communities, health centres in other communities already know that the hospital
in another community is closed so they aren’t directing them to the wrong
place, but also for EMS [emergency medical services] and all of those other
health care professionals that are part of an emergency response team.
This
information is pretty basic. People deserve to have this information. They
don’t deserve to, in an emergency with a child or a parent, drive in an
emergency to their hospital to find a piece of paper on the door telling them
that it’s closed. This is happening far too much in this province, Mr. Speaker.
And so really want to see this bill passed.
You
know, the SHA used to disclose this information, Mr. Deputy Speaker. They used
to disclose on their website all of the temporary closures that were happening
in the province. And then at some point there was a policy change that
eliminated that, and so only really long-term closures were posted on SHA’s
website. And again I don’t understand why that policy change would happen. I
believe people in rural Saskatchewan deserve to know whether their hospital is
closed or not. And so we’re trying to get to a place where they get that
information.
I
know one of the other issues that’s really concerning too, Mr. Deputy Speaker,
around the current state of things in health care here in Saskatchewan is the
erosion of trust that local community members feel in their health care
facilities. Because they don’t know if their hospital is going to be open or
closed, people are making decisions in the moment to, in many cases, bypass
their local community and head to somewhere else where they feel that there
will be care for them when they need it.
And
so it’s really an unfortunate reality that health centres and hospitals in
rural Saskatchewan are facing, in that their own communities are losing trust
in them. I think this bill would go a long way in helping to restore that trust
and building towards fixing health care in this province.
I
know we’ve been out, my colleagues from . . . The member from
Saskatoon Churchill-Wildwood, the member from Regina Elphinstone-Centre, and a
number of other folks have been out across the province, talking to health care
workers, talking to community members about those health care needs. And across
the board I’ve got to say, Mr. Speaker, people are supportive of this bill.
They think it’s kind of a common-sense, no-brainer kind of bill that would
allow community members to know whether they should be going to their local
hospital or not.
[12:30]
There’s
a lot of options in terms of how this could be deployed. I mean we have a great
website in Saskatchewan, the Highway Hotline, where you can actually see the
snowplows actually like going down the road on the app.
So
I think there’s lots of apps on smartphones that talk about drug alerts and
notify communities about dangerous drugs in the communities. There’s the
SaskPower outage map that is, you know, kept very up to date on power outages
and when they expect to be back in service and all of those things. There’s a
lot of options. There’s a lot of templates that could be used.
I
think Saskatchewan people deserve to know when their hospital is open or
closed, especially in an emergency. And I just think this is a bill that needs
to come in. Saskatchewan people deserve it. And I think of, you know, as a
parent of two kids or as a son to my parents, who may at one point need
emergency care, I want to make sure that that care is going to be there for
them. I want to make sure that I know I’m going to take them to the right
place. And I think every person in Saskatchewan deserves that information and
that transparency from this government.
So
with that, Mr. Speaker, I’m pleased to move second reading of Bill No. 606, The Provincial Health Authority (ER Closure right-to-know)
Amendment Act.
Thank you.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — It has been moved that Bill No. 606 be now read a second time, The Provincial Health Authority (ER Closure
right-to-know) Amendment Act. Is the Assembly ready for the
question? I recognize the member from Regina Douglas Park.
Nicole Sarauer: — Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I appreciate the
opportunity to enter into the debate on this legislation. And I very much thank
my colleague, the member for Regina Walsh Acres, for his work in putting
forward this bill, a very practical bill that we know the people of
Saskatchewan have been calling for. They want this enshrined in legislation,
not just in policy, so that there is accountability for government to make sure
that this happens.
So I thank the member for his hard work in consulting
with respect to this legislation. I’m looking forward to further debate on this
bill. And I am now prepared at this stage to move to adjourn debate on this
legislation.
Deputy Speaker B.
McLeod: — The Opposition House Leader has moved to adjourn
debate. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — Carried. This House now stands
adjourned until Monday, November 17th . . . [inaudible interjection]
. . . Oh, I’m sorry. I’m sorry. I recognize the Government House
Leader.
Hon. Tim McLeod: — You stole my thunder, Mr. Deputy
Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker, I move that this Assembly do now adjourn.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — We’ll just blame that on the rookie
sitting in the Chair. The member has moved to adjourn debate. Is it the
pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — Carried. This House now stands
adjourned until Monday, November 17th at 1:30. And we’ll all look forward to a
Rider victory on Sunday. Go Riders!
[The
Assembly adjourned at 12:33.]
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