CONTENTS
Volunteers Show Community Pride at Harbour Landing Cleanup
Day
Partnership with Saskatoon Tribal Council Helps Address
Housing Needs
Saskatchewan Offers a Wealth of Options for Summer Tourism
Melfort Mustangs Win Canterra Seeds Cup
Saskatoon Basketball Player Leads Briercrest College to
Men’s National Championship
Mental Health Week Encourages All to Shed Masks and Support
Mental Wellness
Opposition’s Out-of-Province Election Expenses
National Unity and Economic Development
National Unity and Provision of RCMP Services
National Unity and Support for Treaty Rights
Impact of Tariffs and Support for Film Industry
Measures to Prevent Spread of Measles
Bill No. 604 — The Referendum and
Plebiscite (Keep Saskatchewan in Canada) Amendment Act
COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE ON BILLS
PRESENTING REPORTS BY STANDING AND SPECIAL COMMITTEES
Standing Committee on Crown and Central Agencies
Bill No. 14 — The Power Corporation Amendment Act,
2025
PRESENTING REPORTS BY STANDING AND SPECIAL COMMITTEES
Standing Committee on Crown and Central Agencies
PRESENTING REPORTS BY STANDING AND SPECIAL COMMITTEES
Standing Committee on Human Services
Bill No. 18 — The Regulated Health Professions Act
PRESENTING REPORTS BY STANDING AND SPECIAL COMMITTEES
Standing Committee on Human Services
PRESENTING REPORTS BY STANDING AND SPECIAL COMMITTEES
Standing Committee on Intergovernmental Affairs and Justice
FIRST AND SECOND READINGS OF AMENDMENTS

FIRST
SESSION — THIRTIETH LEGISLATURE
of
the
Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan
DEBATES
AND PROCEEDINGS
(HANSARD)
N.S. Vol. 66 No. 35A Wednesday,
May 7, 2025, 13:30
[The Assembly met at 13:30.]
[Prayers]
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the
Minister of Social Services.
Hon. Terry Jenson: — Well thank you, Mr. Speaker. I
request leave for an extended introduction.
Speaker
Goudy: — The minister
has requested leave for an extended introduction. Is leave granted?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Hon. Terry Jenson: — Well thank you, Mr. Speaker. And to
you and through you, I’d like to welcome and introduce some individuals from
the Saskatoon Tribal Council this afternoon.
Up in the west gallery in the very back
row, I’m pleased to introduce Tribal Chief Mark Arcand, Mona Mcleod,
Saraih-Dawn Matthews, and Shantelle Watson. And I’m also going to take a few
minutes to individually acknowledge them and some of their accomplishments.
Mr. Speaker, it’s an honour to introduce
Tribal Chief Mark Arcand of the Muskeg Lake Cree Nation, who is currently
serving his third term as tribal chief of the Saskatoon Tribal Council. Chief
Arcand’s leadership has been instrumental in addressing homelessness, expanding
youth programs, and building strong partnerships with government and community,
including leading the creation of the STC [Saskatoon Tribal Council] Emergency
Wellness Centre to support individuals who are facing homelessness in Saskatoon.
Mr. Speaker, Mona Mcleod, a support
worker with STC’s sawêyihtotân outreach team. Mona’s journey from addiction to
homelessness to recovery is a testament of personal strength and power of
community support. Today she helps others facing similar struggles and is here
today with her daughters Katasha and Denisha.
Mr. Speaker, Saraih-Dawn Matthews is a
program manager for STC’s sawêyihtotân program. Saraih-Dawn brings a wealth of
lived experience and compassion to her leadership role, focusing on providing
culturally safe care and support for individuals facing mental health,
addiction, and housing challenges.
Shantelle Watson is the chief executive
officer of STC with over 25 years of leadership experience. Shantelle has been
instrumental in building educational, technological, and economic opportunities
for First Nations communities.
Mr. Speaker, these individuals do
extremely important work in Saskatoon and for Saskatoon, and I look forward to
highlighting more of this in an upcoming member’s statement. Please join me in
welcoming them to their Legislative Assembly.
And, Mr. Speaker, while I’m on my feet,
I’d like to welcome and introduce some guests in your gallery this afternoon,
representing the Square One Community, an organization dedicated to supporting
those experiencing homelessness in Moose Jaw. Della Ferguson is board Chair and
has dedicated 38 years to the human service sector and is a passionate advocate
for mental health and wellness. She has been instrumental in the development of
the Square One Community and is a founding board member.
Maxton Eckstein is general manager and
has 10 years of experience in social services, specializing in supporting
individuals experiencing chronic homelessness. He has played a key role in
establishing Square One’s supportive housing program and currently chairs the
social housing advisory committee.
Tori Gibson is an intensive case manager
and has extensive experience working with the chronically homeless population,
having previously worked with Regina’s New Beginnings shelter and Creative
Options Regina. She provides essential housing and support services to Moose
Jaw’s most vulnerable.
Tiara Wolff is also an intensive case
manager and is a recent addition to Square One’s team. She brings valuable
experience from Regina’s Street Culture Project and Phoenix Residential homes
program where she supported individuals facing homelessness.
Mr. Speaker, I ask that all members join
me in welcoming these dedicated individuals to their Legislative Assembly
today.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the
member from Cumberland.
Jordan McPhail: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s an
honour to join the member opposite in welcoming Tribal Chief Mark Arcand and
some of his leadership here to the Legislative Assembly. I’ve seen Mark
throughout the years.
He might have remembered me a little bit
shorter than I am now at some of our winter games and summer games. From my
understanding, he might have seen me on the hockey ice and the track and field
in some clothes much smaller than I have to wear today. I haven’t kept up with
my hockey and my track.
But I know we’ve seen each other
throughout the community. And I want to thank him and his team here for their
leadership in bringing culture and community together and making sure that
folks have access to services throughout Saskatoon. And I just ask that they
join our team on this side and welcome them to this, their Legislative
Assembly. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the
member from Moose Jaw Wakamow.
Megan Patterson: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and
through you, I’d also like to extend a warm welcome to our friends from Square
One. Square One is an important association in my home riding of Moose Jaw
Wakamow. I would like to thank Della Ferguson and Max Eckstein for identifying
a gap in our community, putting a plan together under an organization to
address it. I would like to thank Tori Gibson and Tiara Wolff for their
important work as intensive caseworkers, working with those in need to help
them live a better quality of life.
Together we can make Moose Jaw stronger
and an even better place to live. I ask you to join me in welcoming our friends
from Square One.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the
member from Regina Wascana Plains.
Brent Blakley: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On behalf of
the official opposition, I would also like to welcome the folks from Square One
from Moose Jaw and just highlight the important work that they do in the field
of housing and homelessness, and just again welcome them to the Assembly today.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the
Minister of the Environment.
Hon. Travis Keisig: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Request
leave for an extended introduction.
Speaker
Goudy: — The minister
has requested leave for an extended introduction. Is leave granted?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Hon. Travis Keisig: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and
through you, first of all I want to thank my colleagues for allowing me an
extended introduction. Today we are joined by a fabulous group of students from
Ituna School. So this is the grade 8 class, Mr. Speaker. They are joined by
their teacher Mrs. Morvik and their parent chaperone Mrs. Keisig.
There is many new members in the
Chamber, Mr. Speaker, so I’m just going to start from the beginning. My father
attended Ituna School, I attended Ituna School, and both of my daughters
graduated from Ituna School. So it’s a very special school to me. They have
always been able to attract incredible, talented teachers to work in there and
have done a fantastic job shaping the next generation of students from that
school.
I reached out to the principal, Mr.
Speaker, and asked the principal for a great school project: to ask the
students to find their local MLA [Member of the Legislative Assembly] and send
a message to him and why they should be recognized on the floor of the
Legislative Assembly. Had fantastic answers, very creative and very
interesting.
First of all we have to recognize Sophia
Kiemele. She is going to volleyball championships right away and she guarantees
that they’re going to win a gold medal if she gets recognized on the floor of
this Chamber.
We also have Thaya Jankoski, Mr.
Speaker. I’m going to be quick. She needs to be recognized because she loves
coming to our house for Halloween but I’m never at home to see her, so she’s
going to have the opportunity to see me here today. And her brother loves our
dog Margo, so that’s always great to see.
And we have to save the best for last,
Mr. Speaker. Sadie Keisig, she needs to be recognized because that there, Mr.
Speaker, well that’s my cousin.
So anyway to you and through you, Mr.
Speaker, welcome these grade 8 students to this, their Legislative Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the
member from Regina Mount Royal.
Trent Wotherspoon: — Thanks, Mr. Speaker. Request leave
for an extended introduction.
Speaker
Goudy: — Member has
requested leave for an extended introduction. Is leave granted?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Trent Wotherspoon: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s a
pleasure to have a couple young cool guys that have joined us here today up in
your Assembly, Mr. Speaker. And it’s my honour to introduce two guys that have
made this community and this province a better place. Two good friends up
there, Mr. Speaker.
One of them has been a friend to all of
us, and that’s Mark Docherty, who’s served his province and served in this
Assembly as Speaker of course, as minister, as MLA, Mr. Speaker. And Doc did a
lot of good for the community outside of that as well, Mr. Speaker — years of
really exceptional service and leadership to many of the most marginalized and
at risk throughout this province, has led some really innovative programs, is a
very good person, a servant of this province. And it’s my privilege to welcome
him to the Assembly.
He’s a fellow Campion grad, same rugby
team that we were a part of. He was an incredible athlete back in the day, Mr.
Speaker, ran Ironmans, incredible athlete, an incredible rugby player as well.
But certainly has always worked to make his province a better place. I ask all
members to join with me in giving Mark Docherty a very warm welcome.
Seated beside him, Mr. Speaker, is a
good friend of Mark’s and a good friend to many as well, someone I’ve been
lucky to get to know. But together these two once owned The Venue. It was a
music institution in this community back in the day, Mr. Speaker. They were the
owners, Mr. Speaker.
But before I go on about that, Bob
Vancise too has had a full career as a teacher, continues to teach at Winston
Knoll here in the community, and alongside of that has worked at Paul Dojack
Youth Centre and worked with the most vulnerable as well. Him and Mark have
sort of been kindred spirits in both their service in the community and also
their love of music, Mr. Speaker. So I want to thank Bob for that service.
But I want to identify he’s a pretty
cool guy as well, Mr. Speaker. And we sat with you, Mr. Speaker, and had a
little lunch here today, ate some salami and some pickles and told some stories
and listened to some Tragically Hip in the Speaker’s office here today. The
Speaker wanted to know what this music we were talking about was all about.
But back in the day, before The Hip were
anything, Bob Vancise brought them to Regina, Saskatchewan — their first time
here — to play at The Venue. They released Up to Here the next year, so
this was 1988. And he continued to book The Hip at that venue and built a very
deep and lasting relationship with Gord Downie and the band as well, but very
close relationship with Gord Downie.
In fact he talked about the booking.
First time he had them here, he booked them for $467, I think Doc told me, at
The Venue. And that went on to be thousands as it went, booked them multiple
times. Also booked like the Odds, the Skydiggers, Barenaked Ladies, and many
more, but maintained that friendship with Downie all the way through. Any time
Downie was coming through Saskatchewan, he’d have dinner with Vancise’s family.
They’d have a whole lot of fun together, I know, Mr. Speaker.
Vancise is also well known for hitting
the stage for two songs — I believe “American Exit” and “Trickle Down” — back
in the day at The Venue. So we have a bit of a legendary guy in the Chamber
here, Mr. Speaker.
I want to ask all of the members of this
Assembly to give Bob Vancise a very warm welcome to his Assembly, to thank him
for his service to young people and to our community, and for all the ways that
he’s enriched our community through music and building that vibrant community
as well, Mr. Speaker. I ask all to join with me in giving a warm welcome to my
friend Bob Vancise.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the
Minister of Remote and Rural Health.
Hon. Lori Carr: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker,
to you and through you, I too would like to join in in welcoming Mark Docherty
back to his Legislative Assembly.
Having the opportunity to work with him
for a few years and maybe take a couple of road trips on some of our
legislative work, we had many hours to sit and talk together in the vehicle and
he was a wealth of information for me. And I just want to extend my gratitude
for that. Welcome him back to his Legislative Assembly today.
And of course a first opportunity to
meet Bob, but welcome to your Legislative Assembly as well. Everybody please
join me in welcoming these gentlemen here today.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the
member from Regina Coronation Park.
Noor Burki: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and
through you, I will join my colleagues and members opposite, to welcome our
ex-Speaker Mark Docherty who was in my constituency from Regina Coronation
Park.
I will tell you that Mark served our
community, our constituency, in a very nice way. He supported a lot of
separate, small schools for funding. And we had a lot of issues; as a new
immigrant when you’re settling up you’re going to get a variety of issues. And
Mark was always up to the front to listen to the people and helping out to his
community.
[13:45]
Not only that one, so I will say that
when I was meeting with him at many events and I was asking questions from him,
that Mark, I can see you at each and every community event; you are doing a
great job. And his answer was that, Noor, if you are a public person, public
representative, you have to be always within community. Which is a great lesson
that I learned from him, and I will try my best to follow his footprint.
And I will request all members to join
me to welcome Mark Docherty for his services and welcome him to his Legislative
Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the
Minister of Trade and Export.
Hon. Warren Kaeding: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and
through you, I would like to introduce, seated in the west gallery, 32 students
from Langenburg Central School. Now, Mr. Speaker, I have not done my homework
like the Minister of Environment here, so I’m aware that they’re accompanied by
their teachers Laura Sveinbjornson, Kristine Neustaeter, and Kasen Garnett, and
parent chaperone Bobbi Jo Weber.
Now a few of you may remember, Laura is
a recent graduate of the Saskatchewan Teachers’ Institute on Parliamentary
Democracy here a couple of weeks ago, played a very influential role here. I am
looking forward to having a very engaging conversation I’m sure with these
students from Langenburg Central School. I would certainly ask all members to
welcome them to their Legislative Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the
member from Saskatoon Fairview.
Vicki Mowat:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you, I’d like to join in with the
members in welcoming Mark Arcand to his Legislative Assembly and the team from
the Saskatoon Tribal Council, and congratulate Tribal Chief Arcand on his
re-election. As our senior member from Saskatoon here, we’ve appreciated the
opportunity to have many conversations.
Appreciate all the work that’s happening
with STC and the tour that we received, I think back in the fall, of STC
Wellness Centre. So thank you so much for that and congratulations on your
re-election, and I’d ask all members to join me in welcoming Chief Arcand to
his Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Martensville-Blairmore.
Hon. Jamie
Martens: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to introduce the witty and charismatic
Lisa Hoskins, which is my CA [constituency assistant]. She’s sitting in the
gallery over there and she has worked in this building for many years. She
worked here during the Devine era and then again later on in life as well as
the protocol office, and was David Buckingham’s constituency assistant at some
point, and then of course mine.
So I’m very, very happy to have met her
and we share a lot of common goals and sarcasm. So it’s wonderful to have her
in the House today. I ask all of you to welcome her here today. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Westview.
April
ChiefCalf: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would also like to join with my colleagues in the
Legislative Assembly today to welcome Chief Mark Arcand and the other folks
from the Saskatoon Tribal Council. My husband used to work for the Saskatoon
Tribal Council, and I know all too well what an excellent organization it is
and the wonderful services that they provide to people in Saskatoon. And I
would just like to take this opportunity to thank them for their service to
people in Saskatoon and welcome them to the Legislative Assembly today. Thank
you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Athabasca.
Leroy
Laliberte: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Again with my colleagues and the members opposite, I
want to make welcome to Tribal Chief Arcand and his group. The advocacy that
Chief Arcand has done, not only in Saskatoon but with the other Nations in this
province, throughout the province, is amazing, Mr. Speaker. So I want to say
welcome to Mark and his group.
têniki. Merci. Miyo kîsikan’si. Thank
you so much for the work that you’ve done.
And I want all members to say thank you
to Mark and appreciate his work, because our colleagues here see the work that
he has done throughout the years, Mr. Speaker. And so I just want to say
welcome to your Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Speaker, I
would just follow a number of members here today in welcoming people to their
Saskatchewan Legislative Assembly, starting with our students from both Ituna
and Langenburg, Mr. Speaker. Thank you for making the effort to come and see
the proceedings here that have been happening for over a century.
I don’t know Bob Vancise, but it sounds
like quite a lifetime of fun. But I do know the gentleman sitting to his right,
Mr. Speaker, Mr. Mark Docherty, who sat in your chair, was a seatmate of mine
for a period of time. And I think it’s very incumbent on myself on behalf of
the government to thank Mark for his service to the community and his service
as an elected public servant in the province of Saskatchewan as well.
Mr. Speaker, I want to make note as well
of the folks that are here from Moose Jaw with Square One as well as the
Saskatoon Tribal Council and the services that they’re providing in their
communities as we work together across Canada to, you know, add to the supports
that are in our communities for families, Mr. Speaker, families that may
unfortunately have an individual that might be struggling with, you know, some
type of mental health, maybe all too often addictions challenge.
And so from the community of Moose Jaw,
Mr. Speaker, I want to say thank you to those that are involved with the Square
One program. And I want to thank those that are involved in providing those
services in Saskatoon as well.
I do have one issue though with Tribal
Chief Mark Arcand and that is, as he well knows, Mr. Speaker — and the member
from La Ronge had mentioned being on the ice — if you were on the ice with
Mark, you would have met him as he looked down his elbow at your jaw, Mr.
Speaker. If you’re younger than him, he would have been on the bench coaching,
telling someone to look down their elbow at your jaw as well.
A very avid hockey player, Mr. Speaker,
he still plays to this day, but a very avid advocate and works very hard at
providing services for not just the Indigenous community in Saskatoon and their
member communities, Mr. Speaker, but for everyone that needs it. So thank you,
Mark, for your leadership with the Saskatoon Tribal Council. And thank you,
everyone, for attending here today.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. It is an honour to join with the Premier and all of the members who
have already risen to invite a number of guests to this their Legislative
Assembly.
I want to say first to Tribal Chief
Arcand and the folks from the Saskatoon Tribal Council, welcome and thank you
for the incredible work that you do in your community providing services. I
have never played hockey with Tribal Chief Arcand, but I certainly have watched
him very thoughtfully talk about the issues that he sees in his community, and
what they are very ably doing to address them in the best way that they can,
Mr. Speaker. And I think that kind of leadership is incredibly important.
Speaking of someone whose leadership
I’ve been able to see up close, former Speaker Docherty. Mr. Speaker, I know we
sat on separate sides of the House, but we had opportunity to work together way
back when. And if he says anything mean about me, he hired me twice. So that
means we had a lot in common or he had bad judgment, Mr. Speaker.
In all seriousness, someone who cared
deeply, cares deeply, whether it was the folks that he worked with and most
importantly served at Dales House, the people that he served as the member for
so many years in this community, that kind of leadership is incredibly
important.
And I would say, you know, the
leadership shown by the community-based organizations that we have here, this
is the best of who we are, Mr. Speaker. And how incredibly proud I am that we
have a bunch of young leaders who are here to witness this and think about
their own ways that they want to become leaders in our province and give back.
And I think they’ve got some fantastic role models with us here today.
With that I would invite all members to
join me in welcoming these guests, these leaders to their Legislative Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — And I
would also like to say welcome, Laura. It was good to have you
back. She was a great part of the SSTI [Saskatchewan Social Sciences Teachers’
Institute on Parliamentary Democracy], whatever that stands for. We still
haven’t decided.
And you know, we’ve got a member in the
Speaker’s gallery that . . . I thought I was going to show him up one
day. I figured, you know, I’m going to hot-dog it a bit. We were going to visit
the Albanians and I thought, ah, we’re going to go visit the Albanians. And I
lived in Albania, speak a little bit of Albanian, so I thought I’m going to,
you know, hot-dog it with this member at an Albanian event.
And so I thought I’d be their welcome
guest, that we’d hit it off. And I found out that you don’t upstand this man
with groups of immigrants, with groups of volunteers, with just about any
organization in the city of Regina that I’ve been to with this man as he’s
taken me under his wing and along to. You learn from him. You don’t upstage
him.
And, Mark Docherty, I want to thank you
for your friendship and for all that you’ve done for me. When I saw how the
Albanian community looked up to you and loved you and embraced you, I learned a
lesson that it doesn’t take the language or knowing about their culture; it
takes about time and it takes relationships that are built over time. And so
thank you for all that you’ve taught me in this building.
I think I once was standing at the wrong
chair, tried to give a member statement, and you taught me a lesson that we
could all learn without having to be the one to stand up — you have to be in
your chair to speak and be recognized by the Speaker. And so you taught many
things in life to me, but most of all how to be a good friend and how to
represent your constituency well. So bless you in your future.
And your friend here, Bob, good to meet
you. Had a great time learning a little bit about culture with you and the
member from Regina here as well. So you two, welcome to your Legislative
Assembly. And please, all, welcome them to this place. And with that we’ll move
to presenting petitions.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon University-Sutherland.
Tajinder
Grewal: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise to present a petition to open up vacant Sask
Housing units for occupancy.
The undersigned residents of the
province of Saskatchewan wish to bring to your attention the following: that
both the Provincial Auditor and the Saskatchewan Urban Municipalities
Association have observed approximately 3,000 Sask Housing units are currently
vacant across Saskatchewan, including about 129 units in Prince Albert, 218 in
Saskatoon, and 700 in Regina; that some of these units require renovation, but
the Sask Party government has cut the maintenance and renovation budget
approximately 40 per cent; that thousands of people in Saskatchewan are
unhoused. According to the provincial point-in-time counts, these numbers are
growing year over year.
With that, Mr. Speaker, I will say the
prayer that reads as follows:
Respectfully
request the Legislative Assembly call upon the Government of Saskatchewan to
renovate Sask Housing units that require renovation, make units available and
affordable, and ensure that all the currently vacant Sask Housing units are
occupied as soon as possible.
The petition has been signed by
residents of Regina. I do so present.
Speaker Goudy:
— I recognize the member from Regina Pasqua.
Bhajan Brar: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this past Saturday, May 3rd, I had the pleasure of
participating in the Harbour Landing Community Association cleanup day.
Environmental stewardship is a cause I care deeply about, and I was proud to
join with the volunteers to help tidy up our neighbourhood.
Mr. Speaker, it was a beautiful day out
on Saturday, and it was heartwarming to see so many families stop by the
Harbour Landing School parking lot to pick up gloves and garbage bags before
heading out to clean the streets and parks. Mr. Speaker, this speaks volumes
about the pride that people of Regina Pasqua take in their community. And in
conversations I had with the constituents that day, it was clear that they are
excited for more shared community spaces to enjoy once the new joint-use school
is completed.
[14:00]
I want to commend Rene and the entire
Harbour Landing Community Association for planning a successful event. I look
forward to working with them more in the future. I ask all members of the
Assembly to join me in thanking the Harbour Landing Community Association and
all the volunteers — like my CA Andrea, my brother Lahora Brar, Bahadar Toor,
and my two grandsons named Gurnoor and Mahtab — for all the work that they do
to make our community a better place. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Carrot River Valley.
Terri Bromm: — Mr. Speaker, I
rise today to recognize the importance of partnerships in addressing the need
for safe shelter. We are committed to continuing our work with all levels of
government and community partners.
One of our trusted partners is Saskatoon
Tribal Council. Operating under a continuum of care model, STC offers outreach,
emergency shelter, and supportive housing. The Emergency Wellness Centre
provides 24‑hour enhanced shelter, including meals, case management, as
well as cultural, mental health, addictions, and housing supports. Since 2021
the EWC [Emergency Wellness Centre] has referred 384 individuals and 173
families to housing.
sawêyihtotân is an outreach project that
uses a holistic, inclusive approach based on Indigenous values and teachings.
This supports people with street and hospital outreach, daily health home-based
check-ins, transportation, and meal delivery. This year alone close to 3,000
individuals have benefited from the outreach program, and 250 have been housed
through transitional and supportive housing programs. Kotawān provides 55
supportive housing units with on-site support services based on individual
needs to help tenants maintain stable housing.
Our government values its partnership
with STC. It is partnerships like these that demonstrate the impact to make
positive change. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Chief Mistawasis.
Don McBean: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. I rise today to share my great privilege, pride, promise of being the
shadow cabinet minister for tourism of this amazing and diverse province.
You know, I lived down east for 15 years
and often had to listen to people describe how they’d driven through
Saskatchewan or flown over Saskatchewan, which most often resulted in my
vociferous efforts to help them learn that, yes, Saskatchewan offers the beauty
of the prairies but also the magnificent northern lakes, Canadian Shield, and
so many other jewels of geography.
But of course it’s more than that; it’s
the people. The rich range of experiences, adventure, activity. We’re friendly,
maybe even more friendly than Maritimers. Decades ago I spent five summers as a
fishing guide at Wollaston Lake, and if that’s not training for a now shadow
cabinet minister of tourism, what might be?
Of course there’s also years in the
Southwest, summers working in the Department of Highways, more intimately
building grain bins and enjoying a family original cabin for decades at Cypress
Hills park.
Now summer is arriving. I have a new
car. I am so motivated to get out and explore so much more that the province
offers: the smaller centres’ summer festivals, Swift Current pioneer days to
bring back memories of being in the marching band. I am thrilled to be part of
the effort in promoting and celebrating this amazing province, and I encourage
all to join me. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Weyburn-Bengough.
Michael Weger: — Mr. Speaker,
organized sports — and hockey in particular — teach you life lessons. One
lesson is the ability to be humble in victory and gracious in defeat. In a
display of grace today, I will be highlighting the amazing hockey season that
your Melfort Mustangs have had.
For the 2024‑25 season, the
Melfort Mustangs were guided by SJHL [Saskatchewan Junior Hockey League] Coach
of the Year, Trevor Blevins, as they responded with a 46‑8‑0‑2
record and a first-place finish in the Sherwood division. On April 27th your
Melfort Mustangs clinched the SJHL Canterra Seeds Cup with a win in the fifth
game of the series over my Weyburn Red Wings, making the Mustangs the first
SJHL team to win back-to-back championships since Blevins and the Mustangs did
it in 2015 and ’16.
The Weyburn Red Wings, Mr. Speaker, also
had a great season. Their Viterra division-leading 35 regular season wins were
the most for the team in the last nine years, and their appearance in the
finals was the first since 2012.
This past Sunday I attended the Red
Wings awards banquet, where Coach of the Year finalist Cody Mapes delivered an
emotional speech to his team and their supporters as he highlighted how they
“chased a feeling” deep into the playoffs.
Well now it is up to your Melfort
Mustangs to keep chasing the feeling as they represent the Saskatchewan Junior
Hockey League at the Centennial Cup Junior A national championship from May 8th
to 18th. On your behalf and on behalf of all members of this legislature, I
would like to wish the Mustangs all the best as they represent our great
province over the next couple weeks.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Eastview.
Matt Love: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. It is my honour to recognize a young leader from Saskatoon Eastview
who had a big year on the basketball court leading to incredible team and
individual achievements.
Jude Shepherd-Hills just wrapped up his
final year at Briercrest College and during his senior season with the
Clippers, he led the men’s team to their first-ever ACAC [Alberta Colleges
Athletic Conference] Championship. Just days later, Jude was recognized
nationally as the 2025 Canadian Collegiate Athletic Association Men’s
Basketball Player of the Year.
As the league noted, “Jude embodies
everything the CCAA is looking for in a player of the year: excellence on the
court, leadership within his team, and a commitment to both athletic and
academic success.”
Beyond the court, Jude is an honour roll
student in the classroom. He mentors younger teammates and youth in Saskatoon,
including his younger brother Owen, who one day might just surpass Jude as the
all-time leading rebounder at Briercrest.
I had the honour of teaching both Jude
and Owen when they were in grade 9. I know the family well, although I take no
credit for their success, but I know they’ve both got incredible things ahead
for them as young leaders in our province.
I’d like to invite all members of this
House to help me congratulate Jude on his incredible senior season and to wish
him well as he enters training camp with the Saskatchewan Rattlers and pursues
a professional career. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Kelvington-Wadena.
Chris Beaudry: — Mr. Speaker, this
week from May 5th to 11th, we observe the Canadian Mental Health Association’s
Mental Health Week. The CMHA [Canadian Mental Health Association] has chosen
the theme Unmasking Mental Health to encourage us to recognize and address the important
responsibilities we all share in supporting mental wellness within our
communities.
Mental health challenges are a reality
for many Canadians. However managing these challenges often comes with the need
to mask our true feelings, leading to isolation and suffering. Here in
Saskatchewan we must take on the responsibility to create environments where an
individual does not feel the need to hide behind a mask.
The CMHA plays a vital role in
empowering individuals to face these challenges head-on. They provide vital
resources, education, and advocacy that equip people with the tools they need
to understand and manage their mental health better. Through workshops and
community engagement, CMHA encourages individuals to take ownership of their
mental health, fostering a sense of agency and resilience.
As we recognize Mental Health Week, let
us commit to our responsibilities not only to ourselves but to one another.
This means listening to those who struggle, advocating for mental health
resources, and supporting initiatives through organizations like the CMHA.
Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Batoche.
Darlene Rowden: — Mr. Speaker, it is
my privilege to report to the Saskatchewan legislature that the Leader of the
Opposition had a very successful trip to Alberta. She was in Calgary on very
important business to thank all of her campaign workers.
Mr. Speaker, according to Elections
Saskatchewan, 70 per cent of all the NDP’s [New Democratic Party] election
expenses were spent outside the province of Saskatchewan. From Brandon to
Winnipeg to Vancouver, the Leader of the Opposition spent money everywhere
except right here in the province.
Mr. Speaker, there was one particular
province that was near and dear to the leader’s heart or should I say, wallet —
Alberta. The Leader of the Opposition’s provincial campaign director was from
Calgary; her videographer, Lethbridge; her day planner, Calgary; her war room
director, Edmonton; her local campaign manager, Calgary. Even hairspray and
scarves for the NDP campaign were purchased from Alberta. With all the money
and time the leader has invested in Alberta, it’s no wonder she keeps
pretending to be the Alberta Opposition Leader.
Will the Leader of the Opposition
remember she’s in Saskatchewan? Or will she keep asking questions about the
Alberta Premier? We are about to find out.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the Opposition Leader.
Carla
Beck: — Oh, Mr. Speaker, the member’s got
me. The member’s got me. I just got back from two jam-packed days meeting with
energy leaders in Calgary. And, Mr. Speaker, every single one of those leaders
said that we are at a critical time, a time where we can get things done, and
where we need to get things done — more pipelines, more rail lines, more power
lines.
But,
Mr. Speaker, you know what they also said? They said that talk of separation is
bad for business at any time, but especially now. It kills jobs and it kills
investment.
So will the Premier stand in his place
right now and tell investors and tell workers, tell Saskatchewan people that he
is opposed to any vote on Saskatchewan leaving Canada?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Speaker, the
party that wants everyone to stop talking about separation certainly can’t stop
talking about separation.
Mr. Speaker, in this province for about
40 years now there has been legislation in place that allows people to have a
voice between elections through petitioning for a referendum. Mr. Speaker,
every four years, as we know, people across Canada and this province, they have
a voice to elect the party that they would like to govern them for the next
four years. Mr. Speaker, that has taken place.
The legislation is in place in
Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker. If there are the required number of people that sign
the petition for that event to happen, Mr. Speaker, in this province, the
people of Saskatchewan will have a voice under this government. They will not
be silenced, as the members opposite would like to see.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Neither will they
be led by any clarity by that Premier, Mr. Speaker, about the damage the talk
of separation is going to do to our province. Mr. Speaker, five days to find
his feet. Words are not actions.
And here’s the thing: people are
worried. They’re concerned about that Premier’s ability to do what he says,
especially when we look at the people that he’s surrounded himself with. Mr.
Speaker, those who are leading the charge for separation in this province have
said that his member for Yorkton is “one of us.” They also take credit for
getting the member for Martensville-Blairmore elected.
To the Premier: how many members of that
government support tearing this country apart?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Speaker,
yesterday I saw Donald Trump take credit for electing Mark Carney. People can
take credit for whatever they think, Mr. Speaker.
The fact of the matter is, in each of
those cases, in each of those constituencies, whether it be
Martensville-Blairmore or Yorkton, is those Saskatchewan Party members won the
election because they had more votes than the NDP or any other party, Mr. Speaker.
The reason they had more votes is because they are part of a party that stands
up for Saskatchewan families’, communities’, industries’ interests at every
opportunity and has over the last 10 years; unlike the NDP, Mr. Speaker, who
have supported those very Liberal policies that have caused that anger and have
caused that frustration that we are seeing in many parts of Canada, Mr.
Speaker.
And so the NDP opposition’s solution to
that, Mr. Speaker, is to silence those individuals by taking away, by taking
away their opportunity to have a voice in between elections, Mr. Speaker. What
we’ve seen over the course of this session is an NDP opposition that repeatedly
stands up and says, we need to silence the voters, Mr. Speaker, because they
don’t agree with us; we need to condemn those very voters because they
don’t . . .
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Speaker, I can
speak for myself. And I can get on my feet and say clearly that I will never
vote to separate from this province, and I’ll tell you the same thing about
every one of these members, Mr. Speaker. But I am not sure that that Premier
can say the same for his team, for his cabinet, Mr. Speaker.
[14:15]
Later today I’m going to introduce a
bill to keep Saskatchewan in Canada. He’s got a chance to put his rhetoric into
action, Mr. Speaker. I’m going to ask him to lead by example. Will he allow a
free vote on my legislation so we can see once and for all who actually over
there wants to keep Saskatchewan in Canada?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Should the
silence-Saskatchewan-people bill ever get to a vote on the floor of this
Assembly, it can certainly be a free vote, Mr. Speaker. The fact of the matter
is this a government that is not interested in silencing Saskatchewan voters.
This is a government that is not interested in condemning people, Mr. Speaker,
whether it be the Premier of Alberta, the president of the United States.
And this is also a government, Mr.
Speaker, that is not interested in banning the services that are being provided
to Saskatchewan people from corner to corner, from community to community
across this province. That’s what we’ve heard about this session from the
opposition party is their ambition to silence, Mr. Speaker, to condemn people,
and ultimately to ban services.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina South Albert.
Aleana Young: — Well thank you
very much, Mr. Speaker. If that Premier cares so very much about free speech,
let’s have a free vote. But, Mr. Speaker, that Premier will not allow his
members to have a free vote on whether or not we support Canada. And what a
shame, because I know how all 27 members on this side of the House would vote.
And now, Mr. Speaker, earlier this
morning I was happy to attend a meeting, along with my colleagues, with our
friends the United Steelworkers. And there, Mr. Speaker, president Scott Lunny
made it clear that talk of separatism is going to act as a barrier to getting
more pipelines, more rail lines, more power lines built.
So, Mr. Speaker, with the United
Steelworkers front of mind for members opposite, will the Premier tell the
separatist members of his own caucus and those who helped elect them that there
will not be a vote on separating from Canada?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of CIC [Crown Investments
Corporation of Saskatchewan].
Hon. Jeremy
Harrison: —
Well thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I can tell the members of this House how
proud I am, how hard this government has worked to attract investment to this
province — at historic levels, Mr. Speaker, at levels never before seen in this
province.
Our GDP [gross domestic product] has
grown in this province to $80 billion. The last year of the NDP
government, Mr. Speaker, what was it? It was $17 billion, Mr. Speaker.
That is a direct result of the work that this government has put into international
engagement — fully opposed by the NDP. Advocating for pipeline construction,
Mr. Speaker — fully opposed by the NDP. And fighting against the carbon tax
every step of the way — fully supported by the NDP.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina South Albert.
Aleana Young: — Thank you very
much, Mr. Speaker. The question was about investment in Saskatchewan, about
jobs for steelworkers in Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker. But every day, every day
it’s just more chaos and concern from the Sask Party government.
Weeks ago we had the member from
Humboldt-Watrous stand and say hateful, bigoted things in this House, and all
the while we’ve learned that members from Yorkton and Martensville-Blairmore
have been actively working with self-identified folks looking to organize to
separate from Canada.
The Premier is clearly losing control of
his team after having lost . . .
Speaker
Goudy: — I’m going to ask the member
. . . There are so many accusations going back and forth on what
members are standing for on both sides of the House. I’m going to ask that we
all refrain from making comments concerning whether someone is a separatist or
not. That is not debate for government business, so I’m going to ask that
questions and answers focus on the business of the government.
So please restate your question, member
from Regina South Albert.
Aleana Young: — Thank you very
much, Mr. Speaker. The role of any government should be about protecting this
province, protecting the economy. We cannot do that if investment in jobs and
people will flee if there are forces out there organizing, pushing for support
for Saskatchewan to leave Canada. Is this the calibre of leadership that people
in Saskatchewan can expect?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Deputy Premier.
Hon. Jim
Reiter: —
Let’s look at where Saskatchewan is on the job creation front, Mr. Speaker. On
GDP, Mr. Speaker, the Minister of CIC spoke about the situation just a few
minutes ago, Mr. Speaker. We are at or near the front in every leading economic
indicator in this country because of the focus we put on economic development,
Mr. Speaker.
I will agree with one thing. I don’t
very often agree with the members opposite. I will agree with them on one
thing: discussion about separatism isn’t good for business, Mr. Speaker. Isn’t
it ironic that the only members in this House that want to discuss that issue
are the members opposite that are trying to muzzle people, Mr. Speaker?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina University.
Sally Housser: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I joined the Leader of the Opposition for the last two
days in Calgary meeting with Canada’s energy leaders, having meaningful
conversations about the future of oil and gas in this province. In every
meeting our leader’s message of pipelines, rail lines, and power lines was
crystal clear and well received. And their message was crystal clear that
separatism is bad for business.
The Sask Party government’s record of
getting pipelines built is one of failure, but hope springs eternal that they
might get the job done at some point. But you know what would make getting a
pipeline built even harder? New international borders to our east and west
drawn by separatists. Flirting with separatism makes it harder to get pipelines
built. What doesn’t the Sask Party understand about that?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Finance.
Hon. Jim
Reiter: —
Mr. Speaker, I don’t know whether to laugh or cry at that question. For crying
out loud, Mr. Speaker, for years this government has looked for markets
overseas to help our business community. Every trade mission that any minister
on this side of the House or the Premier went on was criticized by members
opposite. It was called a junket and a waste of money. Now suddenly they want
to . . .
[Interjections]
Speaker
Goudy: — Order, please. Let’s have decorum.
Let’s have listening to questions and answers.
Minister of Finance, please.
Hon. Jim
Reiter: —
Mr. Speaker, now suddenly they’ve found the value in opening other markets
instead of relying on just one customer, Mr. Speaker. What a unique idea they
suddenly stumbled on.
For crying out loud, Mr. Speaker, this
is ridiculous. Their stance, they try to avoid it now, but their stance on the
carbon tax and on pipelines for many years, Mr. Speaker, is a matter of
documentation. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina University.
Sally Housser: — Thank you very
much, Mr. Speaker. It was particularly lovely to see so many people in Calgary
that I’ve actually worked with across the oil and gas industry.
Mr. Speaker, the Sask Party isn’t
focused on the future; they’re focused on legitimizing a fringe separatist wing
as the Premier faces a leadership review. We have the most innovative oil and
gas companies in the world operating in our province. But like every industry,
they need stability and predictability if they’re going to choose to invest
here. A referendum on separatism would drive investment out of Saskatchewan,
killing jobs and shutting down production.
Will this Sask Party government show
leadership, provide certainty for our oil and gas sector, and say that
separatism is a non-starter in Saskatchewan?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Finance.
Hon. Jim
Reiter: —
Mr. Speaker, I’ve had the privilege over the years to meet many, many times
with leaders in the oil and gas industry, and they know which government and
which parties support their industry, Mr. Speaker. That is a matter of public
record.
Mr. Speaker, again I would just point
out the irony that the people who are saying talk of separatism is bad — which
I agree with, Mr. Speaker — are the only ones talking about it. Here’s a great
idea, Mr. Speaker. If they don’t want to talk about it, stop.
Mr. Speaker, the Premier’s made it
abundantly clear. He’s answered questions in the House. I’ve answered questions
in this House . . .
[Interjections]
Speaker
Goudy: — I don’t know who needs to use their
mouths to listen, and it just seems like it’s going on and on. So please, let’s
have listening for the questions and listening for the answers. Next question,
please.
I recognize
the member from Saskatoon Silverspring.
Hugh Gordon: — Mr. Speaker, the
Sask Party government’s weak response to separatism is concerning. I used to
serve and protect Canadians as a member of the RCMP [Royal Canadian Mounted
Police], and I wore that uniform with pride. It was an honour and a privilege
to wear the red serge, and it is beyond disrespectful that this Sask Party
government is so dismissive of the oath that these officers have taken to
protect not just this province but this . . .
Speaker
Goudy: — Okay, I am going to ask the member
to apologize and withdraw that any member is disrespecting our RCMP officers in
this province.
Hugh Gordon: — I apologize and
withdraw it.
Mr. Speaker, how does the Premier plan
to replace all the amazing work done by the RCMP if he won’t stand up against
separating from Canada?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Justice.
Hon. Tim
McLeod: — Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
And we certainly agree that there is some fantastic work being done across this
province by our RCMP members. Mr. Speaker, that is exactly why our government committed
to fund the full annex of RCMP officers that we are allotted under the national
agreement, Mr. Speaker. That’s another 250 RCMP officers that we are prepared
to fund provided we get them from Ottawa, Mr. Speaker.
In the meantime we will fund an
additional 100 municipal police officers. We will fund 70 marshals, Mr.
Speaker, to add boots to the ground to make sure that we have safe communities
for our citizens. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Silverspring.
Hugh Gordon: — And that takes us
to the heart of the matter now, doesn’t it, Mr. Speaker? Mr. Speaker, the RCMP
are part of our national identity. But if Saskatchewan separates, there would
be no RCMP in Saskatchewan and there’d be no Depot Division in Regina. Separation
is a threat to all RCMP officers and their jobs, and it’s a bad deal for
Saskatchewan.
Canada is the greatest country in the
world, and my love for Canada is not conditional. Every member in this Assembly
should be able to say the same. Why can’t the Premier?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Policing and Corrections.
Hon. Tim
McLeod: —
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and the Premier and the Deputy Premier and
just about every other member on this side of the House who has answered
questions recently has made this very clear, Mr. Speaker. We have made that
very clear, Mr. Speaker. We are not interested in separation, Mr. Speaker, but
we’re also not interested in the status quo.
And in the same respect, Mr. Speaker,
when it comes to RCMP officers, we’re not interested in the status quo there
either. We want more, Mr. Speaker, and that’s why we’re advocating for more. We
have former RCMP officers on this side of the House as well, and we have great
relationships with Assistant Commissioner Blackmore, who is currently
recruiting more RCMP officers, Mr. Speaker. We are very interested in adding
more of the great service that our RCMP officers provide across this province.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize
the member from Athabasca.
Leroy
Laliberte: —
Mr. Speaker, the Premier says he’s entertaining talk of separatism because he
knows . . . he wants to respect the people of this province. He
should start by respecting the First Nations and treaties the Crown has signed
with them, Mr. Speaker.
Indigenous leadership in this province
has been clear. Separating from Canada is a violation of First Nations’
inherent and treaty rights. Does the Premier understand he’s threatening the
rights of every Indigenous person in this province by entertaining the talk of
separatism?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Justice.
Hon. Tim
McLeod: —
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. As we have said many times, Mr. Speaker, on
this side of the House we are not interested in separation from Canada. We are
interested in a strong and united Canada, and being a meaningful contributor
and taken seriously as a member of a strong and united Canada, Mr. Speaker.
That is what the premise of this government is, and that’s what it will
continue to be. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Athabasca.
Leroy
Laliberte: —
Mr. Speaker, this isn’t a matter of opinion. It is the law and it is against
him and against those separatists, Mr. Speaker. He doesn’t have the right to
change the terms of those treaties. This government doesn’t have the right to
change those treaties whatsoever, Mr. Speaker. Danielle Smith, Donald Trump
absolutely do not have the right to change the terms of those treaties, Mr.
Speaker.
Will the Premier, Mr. Speaker — and I’m
asking the Premier — finally stop taking cues from Danielle Smith and
threatening our treaty and inherent rights?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Justice.
Hon. Tim
McLeod: — Thank you,
Mr. Speaker. And again, Mr. Speaker, nobody on this side of the House is
threatening treaty rights. We take treaty rights very seriously. We take the
duty-to-consult very seriously, Mr. Speaker. All of this line of questioning is
a straw man argument created by the opposition, Mr. Speaker. They continue to
throw out the straw man and then attack the straw man, Mr. Speaker.
[14:30]
Nobody on this
side of the House is talking about separation. The only talk is coming from
that side of the House, Mr. Speaker. Thank you.
Speaker Goudy: — I recognize the member from Athabasca.
Leroy
Laliberte: — Mr.
Speaker, there are 74 First Nations in this province, Mr. Speaker. The Sask
Party has no respect for the treaty inherent rights, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker Goudy: — I would ask the member to apologize and
withdraw that statement and move on to another question.
Leroy
Laliberte: — Mr.
Speaker, I apologize for that.
Mr. Speaker,
they brought forward their separatist white paper, the direct reference to the
Trudeau white paper that proposed erasing First Nations people from Canada.
They plowed through the Sask-first Act, Mr. Speaker, plowed through the first
Act with zero consultation to the people that were going to be affected by it
the most. It’s all part of a pattern, Mr. Speaker.
Will the
Premier — and I’m asking the Premier, Mr. Speaker — admit that the Sask Party
does not care about our treaty inherent rights?
Speaker Goudy: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Thank you very much. And I welcome the
question from the member from Athabasca, and I encourage him after question
period to go out and ask Tribal Chief Arcand with respect to the partnerships
that this government has with the Saskatoon Tribal Council, whether it be on
providing supports in the city of Saskatoon or whether it be providing supports
and partnerships in Saskatoon Tribal Council member communities, Mr. Speaker.
I would point
the member from Athabasca to the community of Whitecap where we have jointly
funded, Mr. Speaker, jointly funded a virtual care facility with Dr. Mendez,
who is running and operating that virtual care facility, Mr. Speaker, a service
that the members opposite openly have moved to ban here in the province, ban
that service from not only the Indigenous communities that are receiving that
virtual health care, but communities like Gravelbourg here in the province, Mr.
Speaker.
You add to that the announcement just
this past week with Meadow Lake Tribal Council on renewable wind and energy in
this province, Mr. Speaker. You look at the One Sky partnership project in
Prince Albert, Mr. Speaker. When it comes to reconciliation, economic
reconciliation, or working alongside our Indigenous people and our Indigenous
communities, Mr. Speaker, this government is very proud to stand on the record
that we have.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon Stonebridge.
Darcy
Warrington: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This just in: in the latest round of devastating tariff
announcements the Sask Party has failed to plan for, Donald Trump is
considering a 100 per cent tariff on films produced in countries outside the
United States, countries like Canada. I hope the minister doesn’t need me to
tell her that this would devastate Saskatchewan’s film industry. What will that
minister do to fight this industry-killing tariff?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Parks, Culture and Sport.
Hon. Alana
Ross: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We are proud to support the strong and growing film
industry here in Saskatchewan. At this point no details have been provided on
how these tariffs would be implemented, or on which products that they would be
placed upon. Creative Saskatchewan has met with other jurisdictions in Canada
to discuss the impacts of this decision.
At this time we still do not have any
details on this implementation process. We will continue to work with the
creative sector, support a film industry in Saskatchewan. Saskatchewan remains
attractive to the film industry with diverse landscapes and skilled labour. We
will continue to be a place where producers and investors choose to film. Thank
you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Fairview.
Vicki Mowat: — Mr. Speaker, the
SHA [Saskatchewan Health Authority] is warning people in Rosthern about an
exposure to measles after there have already been 12 cases in Saskatchewan this
year. Measles is highly contagious and extremely dangerous, especially to
children. It kills between 1 and 3 children per 1,000 infected, and it causes
permanent brain damage to several more.
Fortunately there is protection against
it. We had once eradicated measles, and we can do it again through
vaccinations. The measles vaccine is safe, it’s effective, and it’s free. This
exposure happened in the Premier’s own riding. Will he advise his constituents
to vaccinate themselves and their kids today?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: — Mr.
Speaker, we have been clear right from the beginning of the fall season that
while measles is a highly contagious disease, Mr. Speaker, it is preventable
through vaccination.
You know, Mr.
Speaker, before this fall the last measles case that we had in this province
was back in 2019. I have been very clear with stakeholders, community leaders,
First Nations and Métis leaders around the province, Mr. Speaker, as well as
the public, that vaccination is the best defence against measles.
I had
Vice-Chief David Pratt from the FSIN [Federation of Sovereign Indigenous
Nations] in my office this week, Mr. Speaker. We spoke about how we’re going to
encourage everybody in this province to consider the vaccination for their
children to keep them safe from measles, Mr. Speaker. I can tell you that the
Saskatchewan Health Authority has increased advertising in community
publications right around the province to make sure the public is aware of the
risk and aware of the vaccination options. Thank you very much.
Speaker Goudy: — I recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Speaker, I move that Bill No. 604,
The Referendum and Plebiscite (Keep Saskatchewan in Canada) Amendment
Act be now
introduced and read a first time.
Speaker Goudy: — It has been moved by the Leader of the
Opposition that Bill No. 604, The Referendum and Plebiscite (Keep
Saskatchewan in Canada) Amendment Act
be now introduced and read a first time. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to
adopt the motion?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — Carried.
Deputy
Clerk: — First
reading of this bill.
Speaker Goudy: — When shall this bill be read a second time? I recognize
the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — At the next sitting of this Assembly.
Speaker Goudy: — Next sitting.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Justice.
Hon. Tim
McLeod: — Mr. Speaker,
I move that Bill No. 22, The King’s Bench Amendment Act, 2025,
bilingual, be now introduced and read for a first time.
Speaker Goudy: — It has been moved by the Minister of Justice
that Bill No. 22, The King’s Bench Amendment Act, 2025 be now
introduced and read a first time. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt
the motion?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — Carried.
Deputy Clerk: — First reading of this bill.
Speaker Goudy: — When shall this bill be read a second time? I
recognize the Minister of Justice.
Hon. Tim
McLeod: — Mr. Speaker,
I request leave to consider all stages of Bill No. 22, The King’s Bench
Amendment Act, 2025, bilingual, immediately.
Speaker Goudy: — The minister has requested leave to consider all
stages of Bill No. 22, The King’s Bench Amendment Act, 2025
immediately. Is leave granted?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker Goudy: — Leave has been granted. The minister may proceed
to move second reading.
Hon. Tim
McLeod: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that Bill No. 22, The King’s Bench
Amendment Act, 2025, bilingual, be now read a second time.
Speaker
Goudy: — The minister has moved second
reading of Bill No. 22, The King’s Bench Amendment Act, 2025. Is
the Assembly ready for the question?
Some
Hon. Members: — Question.
Speaker
Goudy: — The question before the Assembly is
the motion moved by the Minister of Justice that Bill No. 22, The
King’s Bench Amendment Act, 2025 be now read a second time. Is it the
pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — Carried.
Deputy
Clerk: — Second reading of this bill.
Speaker
Goudy: — To which committee shall this bill
be committed? I recognize the Minister of Justice.
Hon. Tim
McLeod: —
Mr. Speaker, I designate that Bill No. 22, The King’s Bench Amendment
Act, 2025, bilingual, be committed to the Committee of the Whole on Bills
and the said bill be considered in Committee of the Whole on Bills immediately.
Speaker
Goudy: — This bill stands committed to the
Committee of the Whole on Bills.
Deputy
Clerk: — Committee of the Whole on Bills.
Speaker
Goudy: — I do now leave the Chair for the
Assembly to go into Committee of the Whole on Bills.
Deputy Chair Beaudry:
— The item of business before the committee is Bill No. 22, The King’s
Bench Amendment Act, 2025. Clause 1, short title, is that agreed?
[Clauses 1 to 3 inclusive agreed to.]
Deputy
Chair Beaudry — His Majesty, by and with the advice
and consent of the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan, enacts as follows:
Bill No. 22, The King’s Bench Amendment Act, 2025. I recognize the
Minister of Justice.
Hon. Tim
McLeod: —
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I move that the committee report the bill without
amendment.
Deputy
Chair Beaudry: — It has been moved that the committee
report Bill No. 22, The King’s Bench Amendment Act, 2025 without
amendment. Is that agreed?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Deputy
Chair Beaudry: — Carried. I recognize the Minister of
Justice.
Hon. Tim
McLeod: —
Mr. Chair, I move that the committee rise, report progress, and ask for leave
to sit again.
Deputy
Chair Beaudry: — It has been moved by the minister
that the committee rise, report progress, and ask for leave to sit again. Is
that agreed?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Deputy
Chair Beaudry: — Carried.
[The Speaker resumed the Chair.]
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the Chair of Committees.
Chris Beaudry: — Mr. Speaker, I am
instructed by the committee to report Bill No. 22, The King’s Bench
Amendment Act, 2025 without amendment.
Speaker
Goudy: — The Minister of Justice may proceed
to move third reading.
Hon. Tim
McLeod: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that the bill be now read a third time and
passed under its title.
Speaker
Goudy: — It has been moved that Bill
No. 22, The King’s Bench Amendment Act, 2025 be now read the third
time and passed under its title. Is the Assembly ready for the question?
Some
Hon. Members: — Question.
Speaker
Goudy: — Is it the pleasure of the Assembly
to adopt the motion?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — Carried.
Deputy
Clerk: — Third reading of this bill.
Speaker
Goudy: — When shall this committee sit again?
I recognize the Minister of Justice.
Hon. Tim
McLeod: —
Next sitting, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — Next sitting.
Speaker Goudy:
— I recognize the Chair of the Standing Committee on Crown and Central
Agencies.
Doug Steele: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. I’m instructed by the Standing Committee on Crown and Central Agencies
to report Bill No. 14, The Power Corporation Amendment Act, 2025
without amendment.
Speaker
Goudy: — When shall this bill be considered
in the Committee of the Whole on Bills? I recognize the Minister Responsible
for SaskPower.
Hon. Jeremy
Harrison: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I request leave to waive consideration in Committee of
the Whole on this bill and that the bill be now read the third time.
Speaker
Goudy: — The minister has requested leave to
waive consideration in the Committee of the Whole on Bill No. 14, The
Power Corporation Amendment Act, 2025 and that the bill be now read the
third time. Is leave granted?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — The minister may proceed to move the
third reading.
Hon. Jeremy
Harrison: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that the bill be now read the third time and
passed under its title.
Speaker
Goudy: — It has been moved by the minister
that the bill be now read the third time and passed under its title. Is the
Assembly ready for the question?
Some
Hon. Members: — Question.
Speaker
Goudy: — Is it the pleasure of the Assembly
to adopt the motion?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — Carried.
Deputy
Clerk: — Third reading of this bill.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Chair of the Standing Committee on
Crown and Central Agencies.
Doug Steele: — Mr. Speaker, I am
instructed by the Standing Committee on Crown and Central Agencies to report
Bill No. 15, The Alcohol and Gaming Regulation Amendment Act, 2025,
a bilingual bill, without amendment.
[14:45]
Speaker
Goudy: — When shall this bill be considered
in Committee of the Whole on Bills? I recognize the Minister Responsible for
Saskatchewan Liquor and Gaming Authority.
Hon. Alana
Ross: —
Mr. Speaker, I request leave to waive consideration in Committee of the Whole
on this bill and that the bill be now read the third time.
Speaker
Goudy: — The minister has requested leave to
waive consideration in the Committee of the Whole on Bill No. 15, The
Alcohol and Gaming Regulation Amendment Act, 2025 and that the bill be now
read the third time. Is leave granted?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — The minister may proceed to move
third reading.
Hon. Alana
Ross: —
Mr. Speaker, I move that the bill be now read the third time and passed under
its title.
Speaker
Goudy: — It has been moved by the minister
that the bill be now read the third time and passed under its title. Is the
Assembly ready for the question?
Some
Hon. Members: — Question.
Speaker
Goudy: — Is it the pleasure of the Assembly
to adopt the motion?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — Carried.
Deputy
Clerk: — Third reading of this bill.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the Chair of the
Standing Committee on Human Services.
Michael Weger: — Mr. Speaker, I am
instructed by the Standing Committee on Human Services to report Bill
No. 18, The Regulated Health Professions Act
without amendment.
Speaker
Goudy: — When shall this bill be considered
in the Committee of the Whole on Bills? I recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I request leave to waive consideration in Committee of
the Whole on this bill and that the bill be now read a third time.
Speaker
Goudy: — The minister has requested leave to
waive consideration in the Committee of the Whole on Bill No. 18, The Regulated Health Professions
Act and that the bill be now read the third
time. Is leave granted?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — The minister may proceed to move
third reading.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that the bill now be read the third time and
passed under its title.
Speaker
Goudy: — It has been moved by the minister
that the bill be now read the third time and passed under its title. Is the
Assembly ready for the question?
Some
Hon. Members: — Question.
Speaker
Goudy: — Is it the pleasure of the Assembly
to adopt the motion?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — Carried.
Deputy
Clerk: — Third reading of this bill.
Speaker Goudy:
— I recognize the Chair of the Standing Committee on Human Services.
Michael Weger: — Mr. Speaker, I am
instructed by the Standing Committee on Human Services to report Bill
No. 19, The Regulated Health Professions Consequential Amendments Act,
2025, a bilingual bill, without amendment.
Speaker
Goudy: — When shall this bill be considered
in Committee of the Whole on Bills? I recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I request leave to waive consideration in Committee of
the Whole on this bill and that the bill now be read a third time.
Speaker
Goudy: — The minister has requested leave to
waive consideration in Committee of the Whole on Bill No. 19, The
Regulated Health Professions Consequential Amendments Act, 2025 and that
the bill be now read the third time. Is leave granted?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — The minister may proceed to move
third reading.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: —
I move that the bill now be read a third time and passed under its title.
Speaker
Goudy: — It has been moved by the minister
that the bill be now read the third time and passed under its title. Is the
Assembly ready for the question?
Some
Hon. Members: — Question.
Speaker
Goudy: — Is it the pleasure of the Assembly
to adopt the motion?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — Carried.
Deputy
Clerk: — Third reading of this bill.
Speaker Goudy:
— I recognize the member from Martensville-Blairmore.
Hon. Jamie
Martens: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am instructed by the Standing Committee of
Intergovernmental Affairs and Justice to report Bill No. 7, The Court
of Appeal (Residency) Amendment Act, 2024, the bilingual bill, with
amendment.
Speaker
Goudy: — When shall this bill be considered
in Committee of the Whole on Bills? I recognize the Minister of Justice and
Attorney General.
Hon. Tim
McLeod: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I request leave to waive consideration in Committee of
the Whole on this bill and that the bill and its amendments be now read a third
time.
Speaker
Goudy: — The minister has requested leave to
waive consideration in the Committee of the Whole on Bill No. 7, The
Court of Appeal (Residency) Amendment Act, 2024 with amendment and that the
bill be now read the third time. Is leave granted?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — When shall the amendments be read
the first time? I recognize the Minister of Justice.
Hon. Tim
McLeod: —
Mr. Speaker, I move that the amendments be now read for a first and second
time.
Speaker
Goudy: — It has been moved by the minister
that the amendments be now read the first and second time. Is it the pleasure
of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — Carried.
Deputy
Clerk: — First and second reading of the
amendments.
Speaker
Goudy: — The minister may proceed to move
third reading.
Hon. Tim
McLeod: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move that the bill be now read a third time and
passed under its title.
Speaker
Goudy: — It has been moved by the minister
that the bill be now read the third time and passed under its title. Is the
Assembly ready for the question?
Some
Hon. Members: — Question.
Speaker
Goudy: — Is it the pleasure of the Assembly
to adopt the motion?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — Carried.
Deputy Clerk: — Third reading of this bill.
Deputy
Clerk: — Committee
of Finance.
Speaker Goudy: — I do now leave the Chair for the Committee of
Finance.
Subvote
(EX01)
[15:15]
Deputy
Chair Beaudry: — The
business before the committee are the estimates for Executive Council. The
first item of business are the main estimates for Executive Council, vote 10,
found on page 47 of the Government of Saskatchewan Estimates books.
Before we
begin, I would like to advise the Committee of Finance of the process. First I
will invite the Premier to introduce his officials, followed by calling the
estimates. Then the Premier can make his opening remarks. Will the
Premier now introduce his officials.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Thank you very
much, Mr. Chair. And thank you to all the members for attending this year’s I
guess finalization of our budget estimates, Mr. Speaker, for the balanced
budget that was delivered on the floor of this Assembly just over a month ago
now if I recall.
I have a number of officials with me
here today. I’m honoured for them to join me, Mr. Speaker. Just back here is
Mr. Myron Soloduk. He’s the executive director of corporate services with
Executive Council. In front of Myron is my deputy minister, Mr. Speaker, and
someone whose work I appreciate so very much as I do her very cheery, gracious
disposition that she approaches the Premier with each and every day, Mr.
Speaker. But it’s Raynelle Wilson. And this province is very, very well served
by having Raynelle Wilson as the head of our public service.
Mr. Speaker, to Raynelle’s right, to my
left is my chief of staff, Jared Dunlop. Behind Jared is Ashley Wass. Now
Ashley’s last name has been a point of contention mainly because I have been
unable to pronounce it for years, Mr. Speaker. I got it wrong one year, calling
her Ashley “k-nize-lee.” The next year I think I got it correct as I called her
Ashley Knisley. And now she went and got married, Mr. Speaker, and is Ashley
Wass. So if she just would have done that a few years earlier we would have
never had these challenges, Mr. Speaker. But Ashley is a very valuable member
of our team.
To my right . . . Before I get
to that, behind Ashley is Sean Wilson. Sean Wilson is the director of House and
business research, Mr. Speaker. And I failed to mention what Ashley does, and I
ask her every day, what is it exactly you do around here? Mr. Speaker, she’s
the executive director of issues management, of which she informed me this
morning, when there’s a problem she fixes it.
So it’s a very straightforward flat org
chart in the Premier’s office, Mr. Speaker, which is a conversation that I and
the gentleman to my right have often. Reg Downs is the special advisor to the
Premier, Mr. Speaker.
He was the special advisor to the former
premier, very much been a part of this government, part of this party, Mr.
Speaker, for literally decades now. And we’re very thankful for what Reg has
given back, from my perspective not only to the Saskatchewan Party but has
provided in guidance to the Saskatchewan government and ultimately to the
people of Saskatchewan, of which we are going to have the opportunity to debate
for the next three hours or so. So thank you, Mr. Chair.
Deputy
Chair Beaudry: — Executive Council, vote 10, subvote
(EX01), central management and services. The Premier may proceed with his
opening marks.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Thank you again,
Mr. Chair. With respect to this year’s budget, Mr. Speaker — and I’ve spoken to
this a number of times — when we go back to just under a year ago, we were in
the midst of a provincial campaign, Mr. Speaker. We since then have had a campaign
in the USA [United States of America] as well as a federal campaign here in
Canada.
Canadian people I think have seen enough
campaigns for a period of time. I know I certainly have, Mr. Speaker. But in
that particular campaign we had ran on a commitment to affordability in this
province. It was a commitment to ensure that, and a realization that
Saskatchewan is the most affordable place in Canada to live, Mr. Chair, and we
wanted it to remain that way.
And so we had put forward a number of
metrics, Mr. Chair, that were going to ensure that Saskatchewan continued to be
the most affordable place in Canada for a family or for an individual to live,
understanding that all Canadians, including those in this province, are
experiencing costs-of-living pressures unlike maybe what we’ve seen in recent
history. And that’s true across the nation. It’s true in Saskatchewan, but
fortunately we have the economy and a government that is committed to ensuring
that affordability remains paramount as a commitment of this government.
Thankfully, Mr. Chair, as in the Speech
from the Throne and ultimately the budget, we were able to deliver on every one
of those commitments that we had made in that campaign, every one of those
affordability commitments. And that isn’t the case across Canada, and we’ll get
to that over the course of the next few hours, Mr. Chair. We are and always
have been a government and a party in this province that when we make a
commitment to the voters and to the people who we represent, we make every
effort possible to ensure that we are able to deliver on the commitments that
we make.
Mr. Chair, when it comes to increasing
affordability in Saskatchewan, I’ll just highlight a number of the commitments
that were made. It started for our students, post-secondary students, with an
increase to the grad retention program, a 20 per cent increase from 20,000 to
24,000. There’s a low-income tax credit that was increased by 20 per cent over
the course of the next four years, and we started on that course in this
particular budget.
We reduced the income tax that people in
this province are paying, removing a further 54,000 people off the income tax
roll altogether. This is the most significant income tax reduction that
Saskatchewan families and individuals have experienced since 2008, when we
removed 108,000 people off the provincial tax rolls altogether.
There’s a first-time homebuyers tax
credit to ensure that those people that are living and working, those young
people that may be finishing post-secondary education or coming out of their
grade 12 education and entering the workforce, have an opportunity to buy a
home. And this is increasingly a challenging opportunity across Canada and
around the world.
We’ve increased the personal care home
benefit, Mr. Chair, for, you know, those parents and grandparents of ours that
require that added level of care. That’s up by $1,000 a month. I think that’s
just over a 30 per cent increase to that program.
Those living with autism will have an
increase to the individualized funding that we had started a number of years
ago and provided to families where they have a child that is living with
autism.
There’s increases to the disability tax
credit, the caregiver tax credit, and increases to the SAID [Saskatchewan
assured income for disability] program again, which was brought in under this
government, Mr. Chair.
And I think the most significant
increase was removing the carbon tax off every home heating bill in the
province of Saskatchewan, whether that be electricity or natural gas, mirroring
the federal government’s move on their home heating carbon tax abatement, which
largely benefited those in Atlantic Canada.
As we found our way through the campaign
and election night, Mr. Chair, and I said this — full disclosure — we were
hopeful that we would have won more seats, Mr. Chair. And with that we listened
very carefully to the people of this province. And I think that’s important, to
allow Saskatchewan people to have a voice and to listen to what they are saying
and, where you can as a government, represent the wishes.
So we expanded, in the Speech from the
Throne, very much expanded I think, to quite a degree beyond that affordability
campaign that we had ran. We made commitments around accessing a health care
professional in this province. We had made commitments around accessing a
surgery in a timely manner in this province, Mr. Chair. And this budget is
delivering the funding, a $485 million increase in funding to ensure that
that is going to be the case in the months and years ahead.
Mr. Chair, we heard very succinctly and
clearly from Saskatchewan people that we need to work alongside our school
divisions and our educators to ensure that our children have access to the
top-tier education in the nation. That’s why you have seen as well in this
budget funding to expand the specialized support classrooms — specialized
support classrooms that are going to help us improve our K to 3 [kindergarten
to grade 3] outcomes of our students who are also our children and our grandchildren,
Mr. Chair. And that’s why you’ve seen yet again this year, on top of last year,
a significant increase in the education budget.
Last but not least, and we’d embarked on
this effort prior to the campaign; however I think you saw us bring together
multiple departments in government or ministries in a very holistic way to
address community safety. It’s our firm belief, Mr. Chair, that families will
be able to go out after supper and go to the park and feel safe wherever they
might live in the province.
We all know and are aware of the
poisonous drugs that have made their way into our province and our communities
and our nation, Mr. Chair. And there has been much talk of that as that was
related to the first round of tariffs that the president of the United States
had brought forward.
We have been addressing that with a very
focused two-level approach. The first is recovery, intensive recovery supports
for Saskatchewan people that might need it, and not the 28‑day alcohol
program that we often have seen over the last number of years. And we have
about 450 or 500 of those seats that remain in the province. But our goal is to
build a 500‑seat capacity in this province of that intensive
rehabilitation or those intensive recovery beds, which fits into our
recovery-oriented system of care. And, Mr. Chair, that is our focus, is to
provide that recovery opportunity for all that need it in the province.
Then provide access for people. As a
former minister of Rural and Remote Health and the current Minister of Rural
and Remote Health have often said, and the former former minister of Rural and
Remote Health and Mental Health and Addictions has said, is we do need to meet
people where they are. And we need to provide them an access point to those
beds. The urgent care centre on north Albert Street here has and is an access
point to that mental health and those addictions supports for people when they
need it.
Mr. Chair, you saw a pilot program in
Saskatoon and Regina with respect to complex-needs shelters that are there that
are providing not only security for those that may be a danger to themselves,
to someone else, but are also providing health care supports to ensure that
those that may be in an intoxicated state from the poisonous drugs that are in
our communities, Mr. Chair, that they will have the health care that they
require at that point in time.
And last but certainly not least, in
those complex-needs shelters is addiction referral services, people that are
providing the options for those that may be at the lowest point in their life —
just been arrested, maybe having, you know, close to an overdose that
particular day — to allow them and to provide them with the referral services
so that they know what addictions recovery services are available to them.
And thankfully we have the economy that
we do that we’re able to make those investments. And this will be a government
that is going to continue to work, and work very hard, to provide that recovery
capacity and provide those access points for Saskatchewan people to find the
recovery that they need.
Alongside recovery is enforcement. It
was up today in question period with respect to, you know, this government’s
commitment to enhancing the numbers, increasing the numbers of police officers
that are working in our communities. And the RCMP commitment that we have made
since 2011 has been to increase our RCMP forces by 185 individuals. With that
has come the warrant enforcement and suppression team, the crime reduction
team, the SCAN [safer communities and neighbourhoods] teams that are offering,
I think, an improved and great service in many communities across the province.
[15:30]
Add to that a further commitment just
recently of another 185 RCMP officers coming into our communities to keep our
communities safe. Add to that 100 municipal officers into those seven
communities that have their own municipal police service. And then add to that
70 Saskatchewan marshals, which will be there to support our municipal officers
should they need 10 or 20 or 30 officers in a short period of time, will be
there to support our RCMP enforcement officers, each and every one of them, as
well as the service proper, Mr. Chair, in any community that they serve across
this province.
Mr. Chair, this is certainly a
commitment to increasing the enforcement and keeping our communities safe,
getting the drugs out of the hands of the drug dealers, getting the drug
dealers out of our communities, and offering a recovery opportunity to everyone
that needs it.
Mr. Chair, none of that is possible —
those are four points that I think broadly were covered in this budget and the
focus of this government moving forward through this calendar year and this
fiscal year — that is possible if you don’t have a strong and growing economy.
And we can be so very thankful in this
province that we always seem to be one, two, or three with respect to the
metrics, the measurable metrics on the Saskatchewan economy alongside other
provinces in Canada. I think just recently our GDP growth was 3.4 per cent year
over year. Mr. Chair, that was just below Prince Edward Island, and Prince
Edward Island is not the largest province in the nation, Mr. Chair.
So we can be very proud of this
province, that we are, you know, the second-fastest-growing economy in the
nation this past year. It shows in the number of jobs. It shows in the number
of people that are here — 1.25 million people that now call Saskatchewan
home.
But the metric that I watch very
carefully is what I refer to as our export value, which is the source of
essentially all of the wealth in our communities. Largely how we create wealth
in this province is we grow stuff, we produce stuff — food, fuel, and
fertilizer — and we ship it to 160 countries. In 2007 that export value was
about $17 billion. In 2018 it had grown to about $31 and a half billion.
And the last three years running, it’s in that 45 to $50 billion.
Now you add to that the next 3, 5, and
10 years, and this is what makes me very excited about where this province is
going. You add to that a new potash mine, the largest one in the world. You add
to that a new OSB [oriented strand board] plant. You add to that at least one,
possibly two, new uranium mines in the province. You add to that a net zero
copper mine that’ll be operating in this province.
You add to that a canola crush facility
just outside the city of Regina. You add to that the doubling of the Richardson
facility, the doubling in production and value of the Louis Dreyfus facility at
Yorkton, among many, many other investments that have been made in the oil and
gas industry, have been made in the mining sector, have been made in the
agricultural value-added sector, and the protein fractionation industry.
It really is an exciting time when you
look at that 45 to $50 billion that we’ve been able to acquire, and I say
Saskatchewan people have been able to grow to. That is going to be 55 and 60
and $65 billion into the very near future. And that is an exciting time.
Not for a washed up old soul like me, Mr. Chair, but for the youth. For the
youth that are looking to build a career and to have a family and to raise that
family in a community where they were raised in this province, Mr. Chair, or to
stay right here at home in Saskatchewan, which hasn’t always been the case for
Saskatchewan people.
And so very thankful for this government
to play a small role in the policy development that is attracting that
investment. That investment thereby is creating those jobs that is driving the
economy in this province. I’m very proud to be part of a government that plays
a very small role in listening to Saskatchewan people, always listening to the
voice of Saskatchewan people, and making those investments that are important
to the people and the families that live in this great province, Mr. Speaker.
As I said, as we go through our budget
deliberations, these last three hours of budget deliberations, the focus of
those investments as it pertains to this budget have been with respect to
ensuring that Saskatchewan remains the most affordable place in Canada to live;
ensuring that Saskatchewan families and residents have the opportunity to have
access to a health care provider; ensuring they have timely access to a
surgery; ensuring that our students, in particular in the K to 3 space, have
every opportunity for a positive outcome; Mr. Chair, last but not least,
providing those recovery opportunities and the enforcement that is required to
keep our communities safe so that people actually want to live in a
Saskatchewan community.
So with that, Mr. Chair, I turn it over
to you. And I look forward to the questions from likely the Leader of the
Opposition for the next bit.
Deputy Chair Beaudry:
— I recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Thank you, Mr.
Chair. Thank the Premier and his officials and all members of the Committee of
the Whole. We’re looking forward to the debate, the questions here today, getting some answers to
those questions, Mr. Chair. There’s no doubt that this has been a chaotic time,
a difficult time on so many levels — tariffs, threat of tariffs, elections,
geopolitical concerns.
But there’s
also something that is equally clear at this time, Mr. Chair, and that is that
there’s a lot of opportunity in front of us, that this is a province that is
rich in resources. It’s a proud history of making it through difficult
challenges, but mostly a province that is rich in terms of the people who live
here, how much they care about this province and about this country, Mr.
Speaker.
And I know
that I have a whole team of MLAs here who also care deeply about this province,
about this country, and who are very much focused on that bright future that we
all want for our kids in this province.
Mr. Chair, I
think that there’s been a lot of concern this spring about the Premier’s focus,
that he might be distracted by things like talk of separatism, Mr. Chair, that
what we have in front of us is a budget that simply doesn’t reflect the reality
that we see in this province right now, a budget that doesn’t reflect the
threats of tariffs or even the reality of tariffs and the impact of the chaos
that we’ve seen in this province.
There’s a
concern that there’s more focus and there has been more focus on messaging
about a balanced budget than there has been in actually planning, making sure
that this province is in a position to be able to weather the threats that we
see around us, and that we’re in a position to be able to make the investments
that are so desperately needed at this time.
There are concerns. The Premier noted some of
them. I’m hoping to get some answers from him today. And I’m hopeful that the
Premier and I are going to have a good debate today, Mr. Chair, because
certainly people in this province want to hear the answers. They want to see
all members of this Assembly not focus on spin, not focus on talking points.
The Premier has said it himself. This isn’t
about words; this is about action. We’re hoping to get some of those answers
today and I look forward to the debate. Thank you.
Deputy
Chair Beaudry: — I open the
floor to questions. I recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Chair, one of
the things that we’ve heard consistently from the Premier is that the Chinese
tariffs — tariffs on peas, perhaps most notably on canola, pork — are the
biggest economic threat to this province. And there’s certainly no doubt that
the impact of these tariffs have been a source of incredible concern, have
already had impact on producers here in this province, something that has been
signalled not recently, but going back to last year.
What we’re looking for, Mr. Chair, is
detailed assessment of the impact of these tariffs on this province. We’re
looking for particulars. How many jobs have been lost, could be lost? What’s
the economic loss impact of these tariffs that remain in place?
We will continue to work to have them
removed, but we’ve already heard from producers in this province that this has
been a devastating blow in a series of difficult blows. One of our most
important crops, has been for over a decade in this province, something that
producers in this province rely on to give them the returns that they need.
What
we’re looking for is the modelling, the scenarios that the Premier has done,
his government has done. And please walk us through all of those details. We’re
looking for specific figures on jobs and overall impact to the GDP in this
province.
Hon. Scott Moe:
— Mr. Speaker, with respect to jobs, it is a little bit of a difficult number
to track given the private nature of the industries that are operating in the
canola industry and the various direct and indirect employment that it does
provide. But I would maybe just start with respect to the value of the industry
— and I spoke in my opening comments about the source of our wealth being that
export value — 45 to 50 billion the last number of years. And
17 billion in 2007. And here’s a relative number: the ag exports in this
province this past year, past couple of years, is about 20 billion. In
fact last year there were 20.2 billion.
And that’s by, yes, producing more
canola and other products, but also by increasing the value of the products
that we’re selling. And one of the areas where we are increasing that value is
canola oil and canola meal, which the Leader of the Opposition is rightfully
asking this question about because of the 100 per cent tariff by the country of
China on Canadian canola oil and canola meal — as well as peas, pork, and
seafood products — which came up on our first ministers’ call as recently as
this morning.
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So I’ll walk through the past year. And
what happened was the Canadian government had made a decision to put a 100 per
cent tariff on Chinese EVs [electric vehicle], Mr. Chair. The response from China, as all too often is . . .
We see this in China and India and other nations. When there is a rift or a
disagreement between our nation of Canada and the nation of China, it all too
often is Canadian agriculture that bears the brunt of any counter-tariffs. And
all too often, I think when you consider about half of the value of crop
agriculture in Canada is coming from this province, it’s all too often
Saskatchewan that is bearing the brunt of those tariffs.
And we have
had issues, tariff-related issues and non-tariff-related phytosanitary issues,
etc., with China in years gone by, even during my time, short period of time
being in this particular position. We’ve also had similar challenges with
India. So as I get into a USA tariff conversation, and the situation we find
ourselves with China today, this isn’t our first time. However I would say this
is a more extensive and expansive tariff, and it’s to a much larger degree.
So last year
the previous Ag minister, when this decision was made around Chinese EVs and
the Canadian tariff on those cars, the Ag minister at the time very quickly
wrote the federal Ag minister and said, “This is going to precipitate a
response. We’re very concerned about what that response will be.” And his
concerns came to fruition a number of months later.
I, myself,
have written to the federal government on a couple of occasions. I’ve met with,
as has the Minister of Trade and Development met with the Canadian ambassador
to China, as well as the Chinese ambassador to Canada. I think I will be
meeting with the Chinese ambassador to Canada in the not-too-distant future
again. The Minister of Trade and Export, as well as other ministers, have met
with a number of consuls from China as well,
Mr. Chair.
In addition to that, I very publicly and
in direct conversations with Prime Minister Carney — when he was a new prime
minister, prior to the election writ — had raised the fact that I’d asked him
to reach out to President Xi in China to start the discussions moving forward.
We found ourselves in a national writ campaign. We know the results of that
election. We’ll likely get to indirectly talk of those in the next bit, Mr.
Chair.
But I’ve also spoken with the Prime
Minister since his successful re-election in the most recent federal election,
and he has advised me that our government is reaching out to the Chinese
government on this very topic. At the end of the day, at the sub-national level
we can use our contacts to educate and advocate, and we’ve done this in the US
[United States]. It’s a little bit different on how you might do that in a
country like China, but it does need to be the Prime Minister and the national
government that opens up these conversations with President Xi and his
government.
Mr. Chair, I mentioned at the outset
$20.2 billion is our ag exports. Our exports to China, in total, are about
$4.4 billion. We would be quite likely the largest Saskatchewan province
when it comes to the value of products that are finding their way to China.
Certainly the largest per capita, but I think we might be the largest by volume
as well, Mr. Chair. And of that $4.4 billion of Saskatchewan export value
that goes to China, 3.7 is canola — seed, meal, and oil.
From my understanding, seed is still
finding its way to that market as well as other markets around the world. We
have three forms of products, which is the advantage of climbing the value
chain. I’ve talked with, as have the ministers talked with a number of ag
exporters, ingredient exporters here in the province. And we are finding our
way with various products, not only into China but into other markets as well
that are then finding their way into, you know, backfilling some of the markets
that are left open.
So this is not an ideal situation. It
certainly isn’t. And you know, my immediate ask is, you know, remove the EV
tariffs on Chinese EVs that are coming into this country. However as a
Canadian, I understand that that isn’t as simple as it might sound. And as a
Canadian, you know, we’ll work alongside the federal government as long as they
are doing their level best to represent Saskatchewan farmers and the
Saskatchewan folks that work in the canola crush industry.
And so we’re doing just that, engaging
on all fronts, whether it be through the ambassadors of various countries,
whether it be through our own federal government, or whether it be through the
industry contacts we have, to have these tariffs removed sooner rather than
later.
Deputy
Chair Beaudry: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Thank you, Mr.
Chair. I certainly understand the timeline and the situation here. Back last
year around August we saw these concerns starting to be raised. We saw calls by
the official opposition federally to mirror the United States’ policy on 100
per cent tariff on Chinese vehicles, and certainly understood — as many did —
that to do that was likely to put a target on our producers here in this
province.
Like the Premier, I wrote a letter too.
I wrote a letter to all of the federal leaders outlining a number of concerns,
but one of them explicitly was concerns about those tariffs, and certainly have
done that again since.
The
question though, Mr. Chair, that I think is really important because I did hear
some global numbers in terms of the value of exports to China and the value
globally of all of our canola exports to China. But specifically what I’m
asking about, and this is where I’d like some clear answers — again to get to
the veracity of the budget numbers that we saw in front of us; remember this
has been a known concern for some time — is what is the dollar number when it
comes to the impact of these tariffs on GDP, on revenue for the government? And
is that reflected in the budget that we see in front of us?
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Chair, just to
correct one of my statements. In the last answer, I talked about
$4.4 billion being the total exports to China, which is true. I then said
3.7 billion was canola products. It’s 2.7 billion, pardon me, is
canola products. There’s 3.7 billion of ag products. And then I’m assuming
the rest, 3.7 to 4.4, would be potash and other items as well.
When it comes to the impacts of the
tariffs that China has placed, thankfully through industry — through industry
utilizing some of the contacts that we as a government have worked alongside
industry to open up in other countries, backfilling some of the markets, as I
said, sending some different products, such as seed versus oil and meal, into
China, meal that I think is also, in fairness, being moved into the US which is
the other significant market for meal — we haven’t experienced, you know, the
wrath of . . . [inaudible] . . . that one would have feared
as of yet.
However in saying that, there’s some
additional elements, I think, to the conversation around canola seed with some
anti-dumping tribunals that have been decided on in China and that the concern
is great. And it appears that the Prime Minister is going to be engaging as
soon as he is able with President Xi and the Government of China. That’s the
path through this, is to engage nation to nation. I mean that’s the path that
we certainly will support.
We had done some analysis with respect
to the US tariffs which had came in at about 25 per cent. But we do about
$30 billion in exports to the US; as I said about 4.4 to China. Different
mix, of course, but somewhat proportional. And the 25 per cent tariff, if it
was fully annualized in the US would be an $8.2 billion hit to the value
of our exports. That’s significant when I mentioned earlier that we’re in that
45 to $50 billion of export value today; 15, 16 years ago we were in that
$17 billion. So it’s a very significant amount.
It would reduce the GDP in the province
by about $5 billion, $4.9 billion. That’s almost a 6 per cent
decrease in the GDP. We’re not used to saying decrease in this province, but
this would be an ultimate decrease if that 25 per cent tariff was annualized
over a full 365 days. And it would reduce revenues to the provincial budget by
$1.4 billion. That would be a fully annualized 25 per cent tariff across
the board on every product that we export, the $29.4 billion of products
that we export to the USA for the entirety of a year. Thankfully none of that
has come to fruition.
In fact through our last industry round
table that we had, and I suspect energy leaders would have said the same in
Calgary — that the Leader of the Opposition has met with recently — that we
haven’t been experiencing, not only the 25 per cent tariff largely on the
products that we ship to the US but not even the 10 per cent tariff that we had
worked through our advocating and educating members of the Trump administration
and the federal government of all levels in the US on.
Largely in fact the vast majority — not
all but the vast majority — of products that are heading to the US are not
experiencing either of those tariffs.
An
Hon. Member: — It was 10.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Ten years of
procurement to ensure that we’re providing that steady hand in that industry,
the steel industry, to keep people employed there through quite an uncertain
time at the moment. And this is, you know, an opportunity for us to have the
Crown utilities really working for industries that are employing people in the
province of Saskatchewan.
I’ve said often as well, as we find our
way through our relationship with our largest trading partner, which is the
United States of America, that we will find a path there. And I think in light
of yesterday’s meeting between the Prime Minister and the president, that path
isn’t certain as of yet. But I think it’s in a much more positive space than
maybe it was just a couple of months ago.
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Our most urgent and pressing negotiation
and engagement that has to happen has to be between the new Prime Minister that
we have in this nation, Prime Minister Carney and his government, and the
federal government . . . President Xi and his government in China. I
have discussed with Prime Minister Carney since the election results and since
his re-election what opportunities that the province might have in supporting
the federal government in that work. And he’s also discussed some of the initiatives
that the government’s undertaking.
Deputy Chair Beaudry: —
I recognize
the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Chair, I did
hear somewhere in that answer, despite the fact that we’ve been asking for a
very long time, there perhaps was some modelling annualizing threats of
tariffs. I didn’t hear an annualized number on the Chinese tariffs, but I now
did hear some numbers, Mr. Chair, around an annualized number on the 25 per
cent threatened tariffs.
It’s not just the imposition of the
tariffs that is having economic impact, though. We’ve seen, for example, citing
in part economic uncertainty, the announcement of the indefinite pause on two
canola crush plants in this province, Mr. Chair, something that . . .
You know, rightfully the announcement of those plants was met with a lot of
excitement. A lot of jobs potential, value-add potential in our province,
something that we do need to be putting forward and making happen for the
people of this province. But this is another one of those impacts of the chaos
and the threat of tariffs that we see from south of the border.
I’m going to go back to the steel
tariffs because this isn’t theoretical or hypothetical. We do have tariffs on
steel. And I’m glad members opposite . . . They didn’t get the same
welcome the last time those members were here in the Assembly asking good
questions about the fact that their members on the pipe side of that point had
been out of work, hundreds of members right here in Regina who’d been out of
work on the pipe side for years. Now we have a 25 per cent tariff on steel. The
steel-side guys who ship everything down to the US, they’ve got a lot of
concerns, a lot of economic uncertainty.
And
you know, this isn’t — as I said, Mr. Chair — a hypothetical at this point. And
I wonder, the question I’m going to ask the Premier is, is the assessment on
the economic impact, particularly when it comes to those jobs and the GDP
impact of the steel tariffs here on the people of this province . . .
I think highlighting all of this is the concern this government — and you heard
the Premier say this earlier — continues to pretend that we have a balanced
budget. So I’m looking forward to some details to show that the Premier has
more than that spin in his assessment and the planning that went into preparing
this budget.
Deputy Chair Beaudry:
— I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Chair, with
respect to not only Evraz but more broadly the steel industry across
Saskatchewan, Canada, and North America, which is extremely integrated
. . . And I’ve been to Washington a number of times, you know,
speaking just to how integrated it is across the 49th parallel.
Pardon me. Just a clarification with
respect to the modelling stats around the US tariffs and the cost to the
exports, the GDP in Saskatchewan. I read that actually from page 45 of the
budget, and so that’s where it can be found, Mr. Chair.
But to the steel industry, as I said,
the 25 per cent tariff that the steel industry has applied is the most
significant tariff, I think, that is actively impacting an industry today.
However the most significant tariff that could impact the canola industry, very
quickly, would be that Chinese tariff on canola oil and meal, and that’s one
that we’re working very feverishly with the federal government and anyone we
can to have lifted.
But back to the steel situation. I had
mentioned we had pulled forward significant years of procurement in the
provincial government, in the provincial Crown utilities actually, to purchase
10 000 tonnes of steel from Evraz. That will and is helping protect 400
jobs at Evraz steel, and that’s using the strength of our economy and the Crown
utilities that we have to protect Saskatchewan jobs and Saskatchewan industries
and all the indirect jobs that . . . And I think we can agree there’s
many, many hundreds if not thousands of indirect jobs in other steel
manufacturers across the province, in the transportation of bringing in the old
cars and such that are recycled at this plant in Regina.
But ultimately at the end of the day
. . . And this is a question I’ve been asked over the last number of
months, you know, in the face of the threatened US tariffs on Canada and
virtually every other country around the world, the Chinese tariffs — we’re
having some conversations with India, Mr. Chair, moving forward as well — is,
you know, what are you going to do, or the federal government going to do, to
support industries?
And you know, when you look at where
Saskatchewan is today with a $50 billion, roughly, export value and a
$20 billion budget which includes the investments in health care and
education, investments into giving those a hand up in our communities,
corrections, policing, enforcement — all of that — what’s left of that budget,
even if you allocated all that was left over after those vital services that
our communities need, you aren’t going to purchase your way through a
significant tariff battle. You’re going to have to use in a very innovative way
the strength of the economy that you have to find your way through that.
And that’s what we’ve done with this
Crown procurement and pulling that forward a number of years, is use the
strength of purchasing power that we have through the Crowns, product that
we’re going to purchase anyway, pull that forward to support and protect those
Canadian jobs.
Ultimately at the end of the day, when
you look back over the past number of years and you look ahead over the next
few years and you look at what Evraz in particular does, is they build pipe for
Crown utilities, yes, but for the energy industry as well, significant amounts
of pipe for the North American energy industry. And so we have, where we can,
facilitated opportunities with that industry on projects that are happening,
but we have also been relentless in our advocacy for any and all energy transportation
projects wherever they may go.
And this is part of some of the challenging
environment that we see in, I would say, the Prairie provinces largely, but in
Saskatchewan is what concerns myself, is policies that have come from our
federal government. And I’ll use energy transportation, pipelines as an
example.
We have seen the Northern Gateway
pipeline was cancelled. We’ve seen the Energy East pipeline was deemed to have
no . . . Well Bill C‑69 was introduced and the proponent walked
away and the federal government said there’s no proponent for that project.
Well obviously not, Mr. Chair, because you changed the rules to which they can
actually build that project by. And we saw KXL [Keystone XL] as well on-again,
off-again depending on who’s in power in Ottawa and who’s in power in
Washington.
The one that we did see built at an
inflated cost, a larger cost than what was initially anticipated, was built by
the federal government because they had introduced, I would say largely, Bill C‑69
which is an unworkable and untenable bill for the energy industry, the mining
industry, and many other investments that are being attracted into not only
Saskatchewan but across Canada. That’s the only project that has been built in
the last bit.
And there is room, I think, today for
more. I think Northern Gateway needs to come back into the conversation, Energy
East potentially. If Eastern Canadians are looking for that project, we’d be
happy to engage on that project. But ultimately you’re going to see more
capacity heading south as well. They are our largest trading partner. That’s
where our 10 to $15 billion dollars of oil goes each and every year from
this province and will continue to go for years into the future.
You know, I would point out there’s a
renewed vigour . . . And I commend them for finding a way on the
pipeline topic. But simply all the members on that side of the House haven’t
always been and probably aren’t today, in some cases, supportive of actually
getting pipelines built in this province. There’s been statements made on the
floor of this Assembly, Mr. Chair, that most certainly don’t speak to
supporting the construction of pipelines and thereby, I would say, most
certainly don’t speak to supporting the workers just north of the city at Evraz
steel as well.
And I quote one from the member from
Elphinstone: “Any political agenda that takes climate change seriously doesn’t
have space for the KM Trans Mountain Expansion and most regular people
understand this intuitively.” Mr. Chair, what I would say . . . I
don’t laugh at the 400 Evraz jobs, Mr. Chair, many thousands more indirect jobs
that are there, Mr. Chair. And I don’t laugh at the oil field jobs and the
production jobs, Mr. Chair, that have been in an extremely challenged
environment the last number of years due to decisions just like this and egress
challenges that they most certainly have had.
We have just south of here, to my
knowledge the only net zero oil company operating in the Weyburn-Midale oil
field using enhanced oil recovery, using the carbon dioxide off of our Boundary
dam 3 coal-fired plant. That isn’t enough carbon for them so they’re buying
more from the gasification plant in the US. There’s an opportunity to use
technology, Mr. Chair, to not only increase the production but to increase that
production in a sustainable way, more sustainable than anywhere else on earth.
Some of the investments that are being
made by companies like Strathcona, Cenovus up in the North Battleford to
Lloydminster area, are pretty exciting as well and the thermal projects I’m
speaking to that have reduced methane emissions since 2015 — not a long period
of time — by some 65 per cent and investing literally billions of dollars a
year in new projects in that area.
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And I saw a couple of them just a couple
of weeks ago when I was up in that area with my family, Mr. Chair, a couple of
new ones that are coming on. There is no other industry that I’m aware of that
can stand up and say, we have reduced our methane emissions by 65 per cent
since 2015 — that’s less than a decade, about a decade — reduced their methane
emissions by that very significant amount.
Just back quickly then to, you know, how
we’ve prepared for this by not only introducing a balanced budget on the floor
of this Assembly but introducing the only balanced budget in the nation of
Canada. And within that balanced budget we’ve kept every election commitment
that we made. Not every province can say that. First of all no other province
can say they balanced the budget, and not every province can say that they kept
their commitments.
And we’ll start with British Columbia,
going west to east. They have a just about $11 billion deficit, and
reduced a number of their commitments that they had made in their most recent
election in the name of handling the Trump tariffs, President Trump’s tariffs.
Alberta, a $5 billion deficit; Manitoba, 800 million, Mr. Chair.
Ontario, they haven’t tabled their budget yet. It’s been a deficit situation
for a number of years now. Quebec, 13.6 billion — that’s after receiving
their equalization cheque. New Brunswick has just over a half-a-billion-dollar
deficit. Nova Scotia, $900 million deficit. Newfoundland and Prince Edward
Island haven’t tabled their budgets as of this information being provided.
So very proud to be in Saskatchewan
where we have a balanced budget, kept the commitments that we made to the
Saskatchewan voters. Puts us in a very strong position to manage not only the
challenges coming this next year but beyond.
Deputy
Chair Beaudry: — I
recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Well, Mr. Chair,
there’s a lot to unpack in that. First of all I’ll address the Premier’s
comment about that modelling thing on page 49 of the budget, Mr. Chair. It’s in
the budget but it’s not actually in the budget. And I think that’s the problem,
Mr. Chair, and really lays bare the farce that they continue to uphold that is
that this is a balanced budget.
Mr. Chair, let me just say clearly: I’ve
sat here since 2016; I’ve supported pipelines the whole time and those
important unionized workers who make that pipe, Mr. Chair.
And I’ll also say this: I’ve seen enough
budgets, enough so-called balanced budgets turn out to not be so balanced by
the time we end up around to the next year. Sometimes it only takes the first
quarter, Mr. Chair, to blow a big hole in it, sometimes the first week or
couple of days. I think last year — certainly not in an era like we have right
now — we saw a billion-dollar swing in their budget. So colour me skeptical,
Mr. Chair, when it comes to their numbers on that side.
I’m glad that the Premier finally has
seen fit to sign on and support our hire Saskatchewan plan. I think that’s
fantastic news. But in there is an admission that they had the ability to do
this the whole time, Mr. Chair; that we could have been looking at those
contracts for steel; that we could have made sure that there was work, putting
those hard-working folks up at Evraz to work this whole time. But they chose
not to, Mr. Chair.
So maybe what I’m going to come around
to, because the Premier is using a lot of stats there and I know, you know, you
want to put your best foot forward here. But maybe it’s not a surprise as to
why, despite many claims and press releases and speeches about balanced budget,
we rarely see them from this government. But also their claims about job
creation in this province, when you hold them up to the light, particularly the
record of that Premier, don’t really, Mr. Chair, hold up that well.
What we see, and I said I would hold the
Premier to account when it comes to his record on job creation, doesn’t hold up
that well. Doesn’t hold up well to other governments. Doesn’t hold up well to
the last premier of this province, Mr. Chair. In fact under that Premier’s time
as the Premier of this province we have the, not second-to, but the lowest
full-time job growth under this Premier’s watch. I wonder if the Premier has
any insight as to why that’s the case?
Deputy Chair Beaudry:
— I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Chair, I would
just say, back to page 45 of the budget with the statistics I’d put out of the
impact of what a full 25 per cent annualized over 365 days, an entire fiscal
year, the impact it would be to our GDP, our exports, and ultimately to the provincial
revenue line item in the budget.
I’d also point out that, with the
exception of steel, of which we’re managing by pulling that Crown utility
procurement forward, they haven’t happened yet. That might be the reason
they’re not in the budget, Mr. Chair.
What we saw yesterday — and we’re
hopeful that the relationship is improving between . . . the previous
relationship that we had between our outgoing prime minister and the new
president of the United States — it seems to be improving, and judging by the
first ministers’ call we had this morning, I think that seems to be the case.
And we are hopeful and we’ll do what we can for that to continue into the
future using the various contacts that we have.
So that hasn’t been realized as of this
point, Mr. Chair, which is largely the reason that you don’t see it included in
the actual line items of the budget. But it has been modelled as to what that
impact would be to provide that information to Saskatchewan residents. And I,
you know, I take with note, and I can understand why that might not have been
understood by the members opposite, because during the most recent campaign,
they had happened to reverse their revenue and expense numbers, Mr. Chair, to
come to a balanced situation. And so a little different way to get there, but
all the power to them. It didn’t fool the Saskatchewan people certainly, Mr.
Chair.
But on to the question with respect to
jobs. Since 2018, you know, I talked about the source of our wealth being that
export value. Seventeen billion dollars was our export value in ’07, 31 in
2018, and 45 to 50 today, and going up years into the future now with the
investments that we see in this province. Jobs, 2018 till recently, Mr. Chair,
were up just over 50,000 — 52,000. Pretty challenging time for, you know, two,
two and a half years in that space I would say, not just in Saskatchewan but
across Canada.
Largely we’re leading the nation in this
metric, whether it be the increase in jobs year over year or whether it be the
low unemployment rate that we have in the province. In fact on April the 4th of
this past year, the Government of Saskatchewan had put out a press release,
which I will just quote the first paragraph:
Statistics Canada’s
[they’re a pretty reliable source — their] latest labour force numbers show
continued growth in Saskatchewan with 19,800 jobs added year-over-year in
March, leading the nation with a 3.4 per cent job growth rate.
That’s the same growth rate as our GDP
growth rate, actually. 3.4 per cent GDP growth rate as well, Mr. Chair. So,
“3.4 per cent job growth rate.” I get sidetracked with these positive economic
stats, and I apologize. “Saskatchewan also had the lowest unemployment rate
among [all] provinces at 4.9 per cent, well below the national average of 6.7
per cent.”
These are, you know, due not solely, but
in a large part, economic statistics like this, the 3.4 per cent GDP growth
rate year over year, the 3.4 per cent job growth rate year over year. They
continue to increase in our export value year over year over year. They are due
to policies that are attracting investment, global investment, to this
province, policies that are then being put in place by the provincial
government that are, I’d say, inspiring and providing the opportunity for
people to stay here and to move here, to live in a Saskatchewan community.
And that’s largely the focus of the
balanced budget and the investments that were made in that budget this very
spring, Mr. Chair. And it’s going to largely direct the focus of this
government, not only over the course of the next year, but that growth focus is
going to continue to be the north star for this government on behalf of the
people of Saskatchewan that we represent for as long as they provide us with
the honour of being seated to the right of the Speaker.
Deputy Chair Beaudry:
— I recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Chair, the
question was about asking the Premier if he had any insight as to why he
happened to preside over the worst full-time job creation record from 2018 to
2024, but perhaps mystery solved, Mr. Chair. And I would just note that COVID
happened across the country. This is across-the-country comparison over that
time period.
But in the interest of time I’m going to
move on. And I’m going to go back to a question because we talked a little bit
about this but I didn’t hear an answer from the Premier on this particular
issue. I think we’ve got some agreement about the need to scrap the EV tariffs,
that this is something that has reasonably, foreseeably, caused a
counter-tariff on many items, but particularly canola when it comes to this
province.
Deputy
Chair Beaudry: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Chair, not
only Mr. Poilievre but to the former prime minister, Prime Minister Trudeau was
difficult to deal with. You know, I’ll make no bones about it. And I don’t know
if he didn’t understand the perspective that we brought on certain conversations
or if he wasn’t interested in the actual impacts of some of the policy
decisions that was being made.
I probably made one error in this space,
and you know, I didn’t contact Jagmeet Singh. I didn’t think he mattered really
in the scope of things. However, you know, looking back, I likely should have
because it was Jagmeet Singh that provided Justin Trudeau with a majority
government the last four years. Canadians didn’t provide him with that; Jagmeet
Singh and the NDP did.
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And I made an error. And I hereby, you
know, would apologize to the people of Saskatchewan. The next time that the NDP
— and that might be as soon as the first vote in the House — provide the
Liberal government with a majority, an ongoing majority, I won’t make that
mistake again. I will contact not only Prime Minister Carney, which I’ve done
already; contact the Leader of the Official Opposition, which is Pierre
Poilievre.
But I’ll also contact whoever
. . . and I think they have a new leader now, the NDP, who have found
their place in political history of thinking they provide the balance of power,
which doesn’t always end well for the minority partner in that agreement. And I
think we saw that with about a 7 per cent popularity vote across the nation by
the NDP in the most recent election.
Deputy
Chair Beaudry: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Uh-oh, Mr. Chair,
now I’ve done it. We’re trying to focus on the future here, and now I’ve got
the Premier back in his old talking points there.
But I’m going to mention something. The
Premier made sort of a passing comment about equalization. A lot of new members
in this Assembly. Maybe some things that aren’t known to all members, I won’t
make assumptions, and certainly those at home. There was a time that we had a
court case for a fairer deal when it came to equalization, something we agree
with. I think something that’s incredibly important when we look at the kind of
investment that we’re going to need to build that infrastructure to make sure that
we’re in a good place in this province going into the future.
Mr. Chair, what some might not know the
reason why that court case was dropped. Someone who I think members opposite
are certainly very familiar with — I honestly don’t remember if he’s on the
payroll anymore or not — over there as a consultant, but there was a decision
made when Prime Minister Harper was in power. I think it was a pinkie swear
promise that this would all get sorted if we just dropped that court case. That
didn’t happen, Mr. Chair.
So I’m focusing on the future. The past
is the past. I do want to ask the Premier this question. What is he prepared to
do, what’s he going to do to ensure that this province gets a fair deal on
equalization this time so that the people of this province won’t be ripped off
by Ottawa anymore?
Deputy Chair Beaudry: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Chair, my understanding — I wasn’t here when
that occurred — was the advice that was provided to the government was that
wasn’t going to be a successful challenge.
Ask what we
are doing today with respect to what we view as an unfair equalization program
— which has changed to some degree under various stripes of government,
admittedly, over the last number of years — is just this past year we’ve
intervened and joined Newfoundland in their challenge of the equalization
formula. Mr. Chair, this came after, I’d say, significant discussions that I’d
had with then premier Andrew Furey. And we look forward to intervening in that
case successfully and changing the discussion around how we equalize not only
payments but services across the nation of Canada. And I think it’s high time
that we can agree on that discussion needs to happen.
Deputy Chair Beaudry: — I recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Imagine where they’d be if they didn’t drop it.
But, Mr.
Chair, I’m going to ask one really, really important question. We’ve discussed
— the member from Batoche mentioned, the Premier’s mentioned — I was in Calgary
the last number of days having a lot of conversations with workers, with
industry groups, with constituents about this time that we find ourselves in
right now. I think I mentioned it in my opening statements. There are a lot of
challenges. I think we’ve canvassed many of them today already; threats coming
from a number of different directions.
It’s
incredibly important right now that we control what we can control because the
other part of this is that we do have — as I’ve said, if there’s a silver
lining — we have as close to a consensus in this country as most of us can
remember in our lifetimes about some of the things that need to happen: the
investments in trade-enabling infrastructure;
making sure that we expand port capacity and reliability of those ports; that
we reduce interprovincial trade barriers and make sure that we’ve got the free flow
of goods east to west to the north; expanding markets. We are proud of what we
produce, mine, grow in this province, what we export, and how we produce those
goods. So I think there’s a fair amount of consensus there.
I’ve even got the minister for — I got
this wrong last time — the member for Meadow Lake standing up for good old
union jobs at Evraz, which is fantastic, Mr. Chair. But the other part of that
right now . . . [inaudible interjection] . . . I’ll let him
get himself on the record, and then we’ll go. So the member from Meadow Lake
really wishes he could ask some questions. Soon, soon you’ll be able to do
that, member from Meadow Lake.
But here we go. The question I want to
ask, this was also very clear. As much as we have a consensus right now,
there’s also a danger. The number one thing that we need to do — and the
Premier has talked about this — is not, not engage in just words. There is an
imperative right now that we get things done. That we show good will, show that
there has been a reset to show the stability that we need to attract
investment. And also to show Canadians that a whole bunch of leaders across
this country learned their lesson in this last election, that we understand
that some things like the unity of this country, the future of this country can
be bright, but it’s not going to be bright if we continue to bicker and don’t
focus on the future.
Without fail, in all of those
conversations, all of those meetings, this was also clear — stability matters
right now. The last thing that we need is to handle with kid gloves those who
are musing or working to rip our country apart. This is a time for leadership.
Absolutely people should have their voice. People should be able to express
that. But leaders also have a responsibility to say clearly this is wrong
headed; this is going to hurt us and not help us.
So my question is about the bill I
introduced earlier today, a bill that would double that threshold, that would
signal clearly — to the people of this province, to investors, to those who are
seeking to expand their investment in our province — that you don’t have to
worry about separatism in this province. That we have leaders at all levels who
understand the importance of providing that stability, of signalling very
clearly that we will remain as part of Canada. That we need a reset, but talk
of separatism is not on the table.
My question to the Premier: is he
prepared to pass that bill and send that important signal to those who are
watching us very closely right now?
Deputy
Chair Beaudry: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — This has always
been a government that has been focused on stability and certainty attracting
that investment to create those jobs, to expand our economy, to expand the
opportunity for our children to have that chance to have a job in maybe the
community where they were raised, but certainly in the province of
Saskatchewan. And my generation didn’t quite have that chance, Mr. Chair.
I would say that that certainty has very
much been at the centre of our focus on how do we grow that opportunity in
Saskatchewan. That’s why we had taken a number of policy positions, whether it
be with respect to opposing the carbon tax, whether it be with respect to
always advocating for pipeline infrastructure. Yes, we agree with the quality
of rail service that we have for the industries that we have. We also agree
with getting some of that oil product off the rail so that we can open up
additional capacity for our potash mining and ag industry here in the province,
Mr. Chair.
We’ve been against policies like the
clean electricity regulations, which are unattainable. It would cost
Saskatchewan residents an additional $18 billion. Against policies that
have been enacted and layered on time and time again that are impacting the
investment environment in this province. And we welcome, we welcome, the
new-found realization — I think precipitated by the election and the threat of
tariffs by President Trump in the United States — we welcome the new-found
support for many of these policies by many Canadians that previously may have
supported parties like the NDP and the Liberal Party, Mr. Chair, but even
officially the NDP Party here in this province.
With respect to the bill, I won’t speak
for everyone on this side. But I know how I’ll be voting on that particular
bill, and it won’t be in support of doubling the threshold for people’s voice
to be heard in this province. That is something simply that I don’t support
fundamentally. And I think many Saskatchewan people would agree with not
supporting a bill that is essentially going to double the threshold on
silencing them and silencing their views, silencing their voice in the four
years between the time when there’s an election, when they have a choice on who
is going to represent them. And that is ultimately what this bill does.
We had for 40 years a piece of
referendum legislation in place in this province that has 15 per cent of the
voters would sign it, would trigger a plebiscite. Mr. Chair, what’s being
suggested in this bill is that that increases to 30 per cent — increasing that
threshold significantly; doubling it, 100 per cent increase — effectively
removing the voice of Saskatchewan people.
And so I won’t be supporting that bill.
I doubt whether anyone on this side is going to be supportive of that bill for
good reason, not because I tell them but because their constituents would say,
no, I don’t think that’s a very good idea, Mr. Chair.
And I would say this when it comes to
leadership. Leadership is not about instilling your ideological wishes and
policies on the people that you serve. Leadership is listening. Listening to
those individuals — listening to parents across this province, listening to
people that are working in the oil industry, listening to people that have been
impacted by the policies that have been supported by the NDP every step of the
way.
And I would hope, Mr. Chair, I would
hope after the most recent visit to Alberta, where we heard there was many
meetings with energy leaders like Naheed Nenshi or David Eby or Rachel Notley —
your true energy leaders in the nation of Canada — that there’s a realization
by the Leader of the Opposition and other members that were in attendance, Mr.
Chair, that the policies that have been supported by the NDP, the policies that
have achieved them about a 7 per cent national support in the most recent election,
just simply aren’t the policies of Canadians. And they simply aren’t the
policies that are going to ensure that in this province we can continue to grow
and expand and be a vibrant contributor to a strong, united nation of Canada.
Deputy
Chair Beaudry: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Carla Beck:
— Mr. Chair, I guess I’ve got him into his feels and into his old talking
points now. But let’s be clear about this because the Premier tried to
characterize that bill as something it simply is not. That bill is not any
attempt to silence people. People are welcome to have their views. It certainly
doesn’t do what the premier in Alberta just did, was really pave the way to
reduce that threshold by half in their province. What it does is acknowledge
the gravity of the question of separating from this country . . .
Well the minister, Mr. Chair, wants to chirp from his seat.
You know what? What I’ll say to the
member from North Battleford, you know what? Take that message to the industry
leaders who are trying to attract investment to this province and see what that
means to them, what that kind of upheaval and lack of stability means when
we’re trying to attract investment to this province. And if the Premier wants a
list of those who I met with, I would be very happy to provide that to him.
I’m going to move on — as much fun as
this is, Mr. Chair — because something that the Premier said in the preamble
was about focusing on affordability, focusing on affordability for families.
It’s a good talking point. I think it gets head nods, that we should care about
people’s ability to pay their bills, people’s ability to feed their kids in
this province.
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Unfortunately like many of the other
answers, there are a number of facts that suggest maybe the Premier and this
government isn’t doing such a great job on that. Recently we had a report
tabled in this Assembly by the Children’s Advocate that outlined the fact that
the issue of parents who don’t have enough money to support their kids, to feed
their kids has tripled, tripled over the last year, Mr. Chair.
Now we’ve been propositional. Take the
PST [provincial sales tax] off of children’s clothing. Take it off of the food
items that this government expanded it to. Do something to provide
affordability relief because let me tell you what. If you have double the
number of parents who can’t feed their kids in your province, you’re doing
something wrong. What’s his plan to make sure that we can address this issue?
Deputy Chair Beaudry:
— I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Just quickly on
the previous question, and then I want to read in some of the affordability
initiatives that are here, Mr. Chair. I’ll just get to that in a minute.
But just a comment on the 30 per cent
threshold that’s being suggested by the opposition. On the threshold — 30 per
cent of the entirety of the number of electorate in the province, Mr. Speaker.
That’s quite a criteria to hit. Even 15 per cent, I think, is a significant
criteria to hit. We’ve seen no such moves in this province on lowering that, as
was alluded to, as the province of Alberta has moved forward. I don’t know that
it’s passed yet, but it has moved forward.
But here’s an example of just how
significant that 30 per cent of the electorate — not of the folks that showed
up to vote in the last election but of the entirety of the electorate — the NDP
hasn’t achieved that in 20 years in this province. So by those same metrics
they would also be silenced and nobody should listen to them.
And I don’t know that this bill will
pass because, as I said, I certainly won’t be supporting it in any way. But
they might think of a friendly amendment to their own bill so that they can
find their own voice, Mr. Chair, and have that listened to by Saskatchewan
people.
But on to the question with respect to
affordability, Mr. Chair. And I would just start this by saying that the
minister and this government takes the recommendations not just of the
Children’s Advocate but of all of our independent officers very seriously, Mr.
Chair. And we work very hard to achieve alongside the recommendations that are
made, but alongside also maybe community-based organizations or families of
those that are impacted by those policy decisions, those funding decisions, and
by the recommendations, achieving the recommendations that the independent
officers put forward, Mr. Chair. We try to find a resolution to that and find,
really, a striving for a better province and a better living environment in all
of our communities than even we have today.
So with respect to affordability
. . . And we ran an entire election on this, and we did okay in that
election, Mr. Chair. Well with respect to families, we lowered the personal
income tax. We indexed for a family of four, for example, we indexed that
personal income tax, able to save $3,400 over the next four years.
We have actually the second-lowest
utility bundle in Canada, so again our Crown utilities not only pulling forward
procurement to salvage jobs and to save jobs in a challenged, tariff-fuelled
environment today, they’re also offering the lowest utility bundle in the
nation of Canada.
We reduced the education property tax. I
remember, you know, years ago this was long asked for by multiple meetings —
SUMA [Saskatchewan Urban Municipalities Association] meetings, SARM
[Saskatchewan Association of Rural Municipalities] meetings — oft refused by
the NDP government for 16 years. And it wasn’t until I believe 2008 that it was
actually fixed.
I think the Deputy Premier actually was
involved as the Legislative Secretary at that time, and so I’m dating him back
to the beginning of his career, Mr. Chair, but in some of that work in not only
fixing the education property tax but introducing the municipal revenue-sharing
program, the only program of its kind today. And that was reduced again this
year.
We doubled the active families benefit
and increased the income threshold to $300 per child. There’s a children’s drug
plan that was introduced by our government, was increased. The first-time
homebuyers tax credit: it increased from $10,000 to $15,000. The SSI [secondary
suite incentive] grant, the PST rebate on new home construction — any homes
over $46,000, which is many of them, if not all of them. The home renovation
tax credit, Mr. Chair, was brought in. Families can claim up to $4,000 a year.
The $10‑a-day child care program.
We were the third province to sign on to that program, Mr. Chair, which will
expire next spring, of which we are actively working with the federal
government. Today it’s been mentioned, and once they have a minister, we will
work with them on renewing that program. But we’ll be renewing it with some of
the parameters and some of the asks that our child care providers and parents
have had over the last number of years, operating the program that we have.
There’s the insulin pump program, the
continuous and flash glucose monitor program, the autism individualized funding
I mentioned before, access to fertility treatments, prescription drugs,
low-income tax credits for families. That benefit is going to increase from
$800 to $1,050 for a single parent with one child, and it’ll increase from
$1,110 to $1,470 for a family of four.
All in all, two and a half billion
dollars each and every year, Mr. Chair, that is included in this budget in
affordability measures for Saskatchewan people and Saskatchewan families in
this year’s balanced budget. That remains, and that’s something we’re very
proud of. And we’re proud to be a part of a government that has not only
introduced that two and a half billion dollars of affordability measures and
maintained it each and every year due to the strength of our economy, but to
increase it, delivering on each and every campaign commitment that we made to
the people that we serve.
Deputy Chair Beaudry:
— I recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — You know, Mr.
Chair, a question and a concern brought to the floor of this Assembly by one of
the independent officers that the Premier says he takes seriously, a concern
about people in this province. A tripling of the numbers, at least reported
numbers, of people who can’t feed their kids. It’s a heck of a look to take a
stroll down memory lane and give yourself, you know, a pat on the back and a
cheer about that.
I was sincerely looking for a little bit
of contrition, to an understanding that this is a serious issue. You know, as
much as those tax breaks, the tax credits, might be welcomed, there are very
few stores that I’m aware of where people can exchange those promises or those
tax credits at tax time to feed their kids. That was what the question was
about. But anyway, I’m going to move on to something else.
Admittedly there was a federal election
in the middle of this announcement, and the question I’m asking today, but this
is around AgriStability and proposed changes. Looking at the . . .
The minister from Meadow Lake is about to tell me how much of an expert he is
in ag.
But I’m going to ask the question
because, Mr. Chair, it’s a question that producers in this province, APAS
[Agricultural Producers Association of Saskatchewan] and many others, want to
know. There was an offer — again, admitting and full recognition that this
happened before with a new minister, and there’s been an election in between —
but proposed changes, changes that are frankly long overdue when it comes to
AgStability.
My
question to the Premier is about progress towards getting that deal. And what
the province is prepared or required to put up in terms of their investment to
see those changes, that assurance, that improvement to that program for
producers in this province.
Deputy
Chair Beaudry: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Chair, I’ll
give a little bit of information on some of the discussion with respect to
AgriStability. It came from the federal government. But I will add the caveat
that it’s dated as of now, dated to a prime minister and an ag minister ago and
an election ago and even a number of months beyond that. But some changes that
were made to the AgriStability program in the not-too-distant past was changing
the reference margin, increasing the reference margin of 70 to 80 per cent. Mr.
Chair, that resulted in — I have it here — about $16 million in additional
payouts to Saskatchewan farmers.
In fact, you know, in certain areas of
the province the last three years haven’t been that good. In many areas of the
province it’s been all right. But in certain areas they’ve had a few years of
difficulty with respect to weather. We’ve seen that in the bottom line in some
of the provincial budgets. Not that it’s the provincial budget paying farmers,
but we’re accessing that fund and it needs to be accounted for. That is funded
by the federal-provincial government as well as our producers.
So there was a proposal that was put
forward some months ago by the federal government . . . maybe I’ll
say the previous federal government, but it’s somewhat the same federal
government but the previous prime minister, Mr. Chair, and the previous Ag
minister, to move that reference margin further to 90 per cent, understanding
that it’s something we would look at and we did start to look at, because this
is a cost-shared program — 60 per cent federal, 40 per cent is provincial. And
then there’s a producer portion as well.
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The contact has been made with the
federal government in the lead-up to the writ, to the call of the election. And
we understand at that point in time the governing party was going through a
leadership election. And the reach out has occurred even since then, and it
will again when we have a cabinet appointment under the new Prime Minister. But
the information that we’d received in the lead-up to the writ from the federal
government was essentially there’s no direction being provided on moving the
reference margin from 80 to 90 per cent. And certainly there has been no
funding that has been authorized to even have those conversations with the
provinces.
And so I think we eagerly anticipate
this would be a file that we’d pick up on very quickly after a cabinet
appointment. And hopefully a new Ag minister is briefed on his file, and this
particular AgriStability proposed change as well, so we can move forward with
the federal government. And I would say this: we’ll always move forward in the
best interests of the producers in this province.
And when it comes to the business risk
management programs, whether it be AgriStability, AgriInvest, or the crop
insurance programs that we have, they’ve been greatly enhanced over the last
decade and a half under this government. And they need to be, because the value
per acre of products that we’re growing is substantially higher today than it
was 10, 15, and 20 years ago. And so the insurance product that is available
has also needed to increase alongside the value of our production, again going
back to my initial statements about the value of our export wealth in this
province.
That’s in stark contrast to prior to
’07. There’s years . . . And I remember the former member from
Melville-Saltcoats, a founding member of this party with . . . I
don’t know. Very booming voices that come out of Melville and Saltcoats, Mr.
Chair. You know, I can remember him standing in this House as Ag minister and
talking about how the NDP didn’t fund their portion of the crop insurance
program for a number of years. Thankfully, Mr. Chair, and I think in fairness,
everyone is in favour of funding that program today. We’ll pick up where we
left off with the federal government when they have some direction with a new
leadership at the helm of the Liberal Party and at the helm of the federal
government.
But always our primary goal is not for
farmers, yes, to have access to business risk management programs, which are
essentially insurance programs for them, but it’s always our goal for them to
be able to access markets, markets around the world, the highest value markets.
Because we have some of the highest value, highest quality, most sustainable
product that you can find on earth when it comes to the food and ingredients
that we’re producing. We want to make sure that they have access to those
markets wherever they might be. And we work very hard on that.
And that has been a focus of this
government in opening up trade offices. The members opposite prior to election
of President Trump didn’t like those trade offices. They like them a lot more now,
Mr. Chair. But we’re always working to advocate those relationships on behalf
of the industries that are exporting those products to over 160 countries all
around the world.
Deputy
Chair Beaudry: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Thank you, Mr.
Chair. Really quite a simple question about progress towards that deal, if the
province was going to sign on. I hear that there’s some willingness and want to
do that, which I’m glad to hear because producers in this province want to know
that as well.
Also embedded in there was a bit of a
question about whether there was allocation in this budget to cover some of
those costs. I’m going to assume not, but I also am going to assume they’re
going to tell me that that budget is balanced. But I’ve made my peace with
that, Mr. Chair.
I’m going to move on to another
important question. We’ve heard the Premier acknowledge the importance of
independent officers of this Assembly and note his respect. And I believe him
that that is a respect that he holds, as we all hold as members here. These are
incredibly important roles, independent roles on behalf of the people that we
all serve in this province.
I’m
going to go to something that the Provincial Auditor noted in her report that
found that the Sask Party government simply isn’t doing enough to investigate,
to prevent illegal foreign farm landownership. The question that I want to ask:
since that finding has come to light a number of recommendations were made. Has
the government undertaken any of those recommendations? Have they made progress
towards them? And if they haven’t, Mr. Chair, given the respect and importance
of this issue, upholding the law of this province, why haven’t they done that?
Deputy Chair Beaudry: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Thank you, Mr. Chair. And I really appreciate this
question because I think this is an important question. And I think there’s
always room for the government to be working in this space of not only just
farm landownership, but foreign landownership in the province.
I think we
have a solid foundation in this province when it comes to who owns the land in
the province. For example, you’re not allowed if you’re not a Canadian citizen
to own more than 10 acres. It prohibits things like pension plans, large trusts
from owning large tracts of land in the province. And the security board can
request at any time statutory declarations with respect to a number of things,
like your citizenship, who’s funding the land, Mr. Chair.
I talked
earlier about the value of our exports, the value per acre of agriculture
products. As we see agriculture grow and prosper to many degrees across this
province, as we see the interest in foreign investment into the mining sector,
you know, various other ag value-added sectors, Mr. Chair, it’s incumbent on us
to always be looking at the ownership rules for land that we have.
For example, when a potash mine
. . . And we’ve had a couple in the last number of years that have
built new potash mines here in the province. When they come in and want to
build a new mine, they need to buy more than 10 acres of land, and so they need
an exemption from the Ministry of Agriculture. When a uranium mine starts up,
they need an exemption if they’re going to purchase and own more than 10 acres
of land here in the province.
So when a foreign entity comes in, we
need to be . . . So those ones get exemptions I think because of the
massive number of, you know, many hundreds if not thousands of people they’re
going to employ. They’re going to add to, you know, our provincial wealth and
the opportunities, the GDP and that export wealth in the province. I don’t
think anyone would argue those investments deserve an exemption under the laws
that we have.
However it’s there to prevent, you know,
large investment funds, in particular investment funds that may be non-Canadian
with the investors they have, or out-of-nation non-Canadians from investing,
wealthy non-Canadians investing in large tracts of farm land, tying that land
up so that our youth, our Saskatchewan people, don’t have the opportunity to
farm. And we see the value of farm land increasing and increasing
significantly.
So the auditor’s recommendations were
made with the most recent report, and I don’t have that report in front of me.
I am assured by the Minister of Agriculture that the ministry is working very
hard, not only with the ag industry but with the auditor, on achieving answers
and achieving the recommendations as they were set out.
The audit that was performed did not
find any confirmed instances of unauthorized foreign ownership. However in
saying that, I would say there’s three instances that were mentioned by the
auditor.
And so for example, and I don’t know the
details of each of these instances but for example, a Canadian may have
non-Canadian children that inherit the land when the Canadian individual passes
away, for example. And that would be a place where the Farm Land Security Board
would weigh in and ask that owner that inherited the land and say, you’re not a
Canadian and you would need to divest that property. And there would be set
terms with respect to how that works.
That’s one example as to why the Farm
Land Security Board is working with these three individuals. And I don’t know
the details of each, but that is the number that they’re working on here today.
And the only exemptions that are
provided are in the greater-good interest of the community where those
investments are being made, the greater good, the interests of the province.
And as I always say, what’s good for a Saskatchewan community and good for the
province of Saskatchewan certainly is good for the nation of Canada.
Deputy
Chair Beaudry: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Chair, I’m
glad that the Premier is going to give the suggestion and the advice to, I hope
I heard him say, ensure that we have the oversight. Remember, this isn’t about
changing necessarily laws; this is about enforcing the laws that we have. That was
the concern.
He has the ability to do that. Sometimes
we get votes passed on the floor of this Assembly, and I’m proud of the member
from Regina Pasqua for doing that. But the government has this ability, in all
sincerity, that we look forward to further progress on those changes.
[17:15]
But something that the Premier mentioned
around value-added ag leads into my next question. Certainly we hear a lot of
talk at the national level about the auto industry and how integrated it is
with the United States, which is absolutely the case. But for cattle producers,
for ranchers, that is also very integrated and we hear this all the time.
And you know, one of the things we could
do, and one of many things we could do, to support those producers is ensuring
that they have options when they’re going to sell their animals — value-added
processing here at home and expanding the meat-packing industry on large and
small scale. Something that’s really, really hard to do right now, Mr. Chair,
in part because we essentially have a duopoly that really suppresses the price
of those cattle in Canada and often move to suppress start-ups who look to enter
that space.
It’s our producers who have fewer
options — and with the uncertainty at the border, have even fewer options right
now — that suffer. They often find themselves in a depressed cattle-price
situation certainly with that uncertainty. And we hear this time and again. I
know the minister has as well and I know he cares about this. How do we improve
those options for producers? How do we sell more of what we grow here in this
province? The best beef in the entire world. I think we can all agree on that.
My
question is, what is the Premier going to do to deal with this anti-competitive
behaviour by the meat processors, the large meat processors? And when will we
see a plan to support local meat processing, large and small, across
Saskatchewan?
Deputy
Chair Beaudry: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Thank you, Mr.
Chair. It’s been a relatively positive year, in particular in cattle livestock
production this year, and I would say a long time coming as there’s been many,
you know, skinny years with respect to the cattle pricing that we’ve seen.
Maybe I’ll start with a few of the
programs that the government has put forward. I actually remember one of these
that I did some work on when I was the Legislative Secretary to the Ag minister
at the time. It was the late Lyle Stewart, a great representative on the floor
of this Assembly and for the folks of Lumsden-Morse.
But first was what’s known as the SLIM
[Saskatchewan lean improvements in manufacturing] program. It’s the
Saskatchewan lean improvement program. It is a program actually that provides
funding for existing processing facilities to upgrade their equipment to be as
efficient as possible for expansions that they may have. And that is our goal,
is to expansion, again to climb the value chain, whether it be in crop
agriculture or animal agriculture. And that’s why the SLIM program has been
brought into effect.
There’s another program, and this is one
I had done some work on as the Legislative Secretary years ago. It was known as
the SVAI [Saskatchewan value-added agriculture incentive] program or the
value-added ag investment program. That program provides for new or existing
investment. I believe it’s a 15 per cent tax credit on up to $400 million
of investment; 400 to $600 million, that climbs to 30 per cent; and
anything over 600 million is a 40 per cent capital tax incentive moving
forward. And that really is there to incentivize investment in all value-added
agricultural investments including in the livestock sector.
We’ve seen some of this investment be
capitalized on. I’d say most recently, a few years ago, I was in Moose Jaw at
Donald’s Fine Foods, a place at full capacity now. It employs 200 people. They
made a $60 million investment, made use of these particular programs in
that investment. It’s the largest investment in the history of the company. And
they had moved into what was a shuttered cattle livestock plant and converted
it to a pork processing facility in Moose Jaw. And so we’re thankful for that investment
from the family operating Donald’s Fine Foods and very much thankful for the
200 or so jobs that are there.
We had some focus and provided some
focus in the ministry to continue working with the industry on adding value to
ag products in Saskatchewan — again whether it’s crop products or whether it’s
meat products or livestock products — around some of the targets that we had
wanted to achieve by 2030 in our plan for growth.
Now these targets were worked
. . . We worked with the industry to set these targets. And these
targets then drive some of the aforementioned investment incentives that we
have in place. And these targets, I think, in fairness are helping us make some
decisions around some folks that at times need to go above that 10‑acre
landownership that we talked about earlier in the case to create something like
200 jobs in the meat-packing industry.
So the first target we had was to double
the meat processing and animal feed value revenue to more than a billion
dollars in the province. We achieved that goal in 2023‑24 fiscal year,
achieved $1.3 billion actually in that particular year. A second target
that we had in that plan for growth was to increase crop production to
45 million metric tons — we’re getting close to achieving that — but then
to achieve livestock cash receipts of $3 billion in the province. And that
goal was achieved and actually went by it significantly in 2023, with
$3.54 billion.
And it’ll be interesting to see what
that number is this year as we see, you know, finally some fair cattle prices,
I think. And I’ve talked to a number of ranchers across the province that are
happy to finally see what I think is a fair price, and I hope it stays here
into perpetuity and finds its way up from this point in time.
So a couple of targets that the
government had put forward in our plan for growth. Two out of three of those
targets are already achieved, so we may have to reset those targets alongside
our ranchers and the packing industry and the value-added ag industry. And a
couple of incentives that are being provided by the Ministry of Agriculture
and, more formally, the Government of Saskatchewan.
Deputy Chair Beaudry: — I recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Chair, I’m going to ask a question to address
something that I think we can all agree impacts people right across this
province. When we look at the rates of mental health and addictions in our
province, we need to do better, simply.
And, Mr. Chair,
I’ll acknowledge that these solutions are not simple. And they don’t belong to
any party; they don’t belong to any one ministry. This has to be a
whole-of-the-province approach to seeing effective
intervention on something that, I think, we all should be able to agree can’t
continue to happen in our province. Because right now in our province, we are
losing young people. We are losing people of all ages to suicide, to overdose,
to some of the most difficult lives that any of us could imagine living —
houseless in communities, sleeping rough right through the wintertime, Mr.
Chair — to the extent that we’ve actually seen a decrease in life expectancy in
this province.
You know, often when you’re a parent,
you think of, you know, what do you want most for your kids. I think we all
mostly want the same things. You want your kids to be happy. You want them to
be healthy. You want them to have a better life than you did. And generation
after generation in this country we’ve made good on that promise. We’ve seen
improved quality of life. We’ve seen increased life expectancy. But, Mr. Chair,
we’re not seeing that right now.
And I will acknowledge this is an issue
across the country. It’s an issue that’s struggled with in many, many places.
But that doesn’t absolve us of responsibility as legislatures here in this
province to do everything we can to turn those numbers around. Where my
frustration comes in, Mr. Chair, is the fact that we slow-walked watching this
epidemic of poison reach us when we should have learned the lessons that other
jurisdictions were screaming at us.
You know, I was first elected in 2016 —
and some of my colleagues were here, looking the wrong direction perhaps — when
that was the case. And I’ve talked about this on the floor of the Assembly
before. We had a meeting with the then chief of police in Saskatoon, looking at
very real crime numbers, shocking crime numbers, for not just Saskatoon but
surrounding areas. Property crime, violent crime. We have the highest crime
severity in Canada on many measures. This isn’t the province that we grew up
in.
[17:30]
And there’s no doubt that we need more
police, more boots on the ground, especially if we are not going to learn the
lessons and change some of the policies that have led us here in the first
place. We will never have enough police until we address some of the systemic
issues that are driving this mental health and addictions crisis in our
province.
We support having more police. Everyone
wants to feel safe in their community and in their homes. I don’t ever want to
think about my parents on the farm waiting for 40 minutes for a call when
they’re in danger longer. But until we have a rethink and start addressing both
the root causes of crime, mental health and addictions, listen to those voices
on the front lines, listen to those in communities, change some of the terrible
policies like the changes to the SIS [Saskatchewan income support] program that
everyone told this government was going to have exactly the impact that it has
had, until we all work together — not give ourselves platitudes and pats on the
back and say we’ve got the most important and ambitious this and that, and
actually start measuring ourselves by how well we are turning those very
important statistics around for people — we will have failed.
So simply put, let’s stop with the
siloed thinking. Let’s stop with the self-congratulations and sound bites. And
my question to the Premier is, when will we see a real, effective, measured
plan to get tough not only on crime but the root causes of crime in this
province?
Deputy Chair Beaudry:
— I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — I will begin with
just very quickly what we are not going to do in the province. And I think in
fairness we’re seeing provinces that have ventured down this path, like British
Columbia, with respect to legalization, safe supply of hard drugs. It’s just simply
not the path that we’re going to take in Saskatchewan and never will take as
long as we have the honour to be the government.
Our goal is actually to eradicate those
hard drugs from our communities, from our province, and we’ll do our level best
to eradicate them from Canada if other provinces are going to work alongside of
us. We’re not going to make them more available to kill family, community
members, and friends of ours. We’re going to do our level best to ensure they
are not available, Mr. Chair.
And I would say, really three spaces
here. One is the recovery-oriented system of care. Two is enforcement. There is
a third space — and this is one of the points that I had brought up on the
first call that I had post-election with Prime Minister Carney, and we’ll be
following up with some recommendations that we have — but is changes to the
Criminal Code of Canada for repeat offenders, for property crime that is
often fuelled by addictions, virtually always fuelled in some way by
addictions, and for the actual trafficking of and moving those drugs in and out
of our Canadian communities. So recovery, enforcement, Criminal Code of Canada.
First, when it comes to recovery, our
commitment of what was a 150‑bed commitment, we achieved that. I think
the last I heard, 264 is the bed count that we’re at, on our way to 500. When
we hit 500 I quite likely would say that we will have to increase that target
and keep building those beds. And that is unfortunate, because what that means
is that people are going to be in those recovery beds. It means they need to be
in those recovery beds. And that is a place that we want to make available to
everyone that needs it in Saskatchewan. And so first you need the capacity. And
we’re doing our level best to invest in that capacity, and it’s being built as
quickly as people are available to staff and to provide the care that’s
required in those beds.
Second to that is providing, and I
talked about this a little bit in my opening comments, but to provide access to
that system, to meet people where they are, which is various places. And I’ve
talked to friends that . . . Listen, when it comes to mental health
challenges and addictions, I don’t think there’s a family in here — and if
there is, be blessed — that isn’t impacted in some way by a family member or a
close friend, by mental health and addictions. It’s all too common today and it
impacts so many families, if not virtually every family or friend group across
this province, including mine. Mr. Chair, we need to provide access to those
recovery beds, and we’re doing that in various ways. We’re doing that by
actually bringing together the access system in the province so that when a bed
is available there’s an individual that is going to be able to find their way
to that bed.
Two, I mentioned in my opening comments
the urgent care centre here which is part about relieving some of the pressures
in our emergency rooms here in Regina, and the numbers show that it is doing
that. But the other side and the second entrance to that urgent care facility
is about mental health and addictions access. It’s about when someone may be
having a mental health crisis or has entered unfortunately a life of addictions
and is ready to make a change. And too often we see that individual arriving in
the emergency room of one of our hospitals, and I would say nowhere better than
this city right here can we agree that that is not the place for someone that
is having a mental health crisis on any particular day of their life, or
unfortunately has entered a life of addictions. That’s not the place for them
to enter the health care system.
That urgent care centre is a place where
they can take them by the hand and provide them with the professional health
care services that they require. And that is the goal, and that is why we have
taken what was a pilot project and we’re going to build another one in Regina.
We’re going to open two in Saskatoon, one in Prince Albert, North Battleford,
and Moose Jaw to serve the people of Saskatchewan not only in an urgent care —
not emergent but urgent care — situation, but also to provide that access point
for Saskatchewan residents that may require some health care treatment when it
comes to mental health and addictions.
I think the next step and the next
opportunity is to start to have a dialogue on how we can open up those access
points in all of our primary health care facilities in the rural areas and
urban areas of the province as well. To really open up the dialogue around, how
are we accessing mental health care treatment? How are we accessing those
recovery beds that we are building here in the province? But first we need the
capacity, and second we need to open up the access points.
The other one I mentioned is the
complex-needs shelter, and this is a place that the result is a little bit
different than I had anticipated. And I spoke about this in the opening
comments, but it warrants being repeated. In that shelter, people that are
coming in are essentially under arrest. There is security in that shelter.
There is health care supports in that shelter so that if someone is in
potentially an overdose situation, they have the health care supports to do
everything they can to keep them alive. That matters.
They also have addictions
. . . I would say what matters equally as much is there’s addictions
referral supports in there, and that’s where the conversation can start. And as
I said, you know, an individual that may be at the very lowest point of their
life, maybe for a multiple time, now has the guidance on . . . You
can be released from this shelter at the 23‑hour mark in three different
ways. The first is a family member comes and gets you. Second is a police
officer comes and gets you and releases you, as you came in under arrest. And
the third is you can self-refer to addictions services. And it’s 85 to 95 per
cent of those individuals at that point, at that very low point in their life,
are self-referring themselves to some type of addictions services. That’s
something this government is proud of, is providing and making those services
available. We need to do more of that.
When a Saskatchewan resident is reaching
out at a very low point in their life, we need to do our level best to make
those investments for those mental health services and supports or those
addiction recovery beds to be available for that individual when they want to
make that change. And that is what we are going to continue to embark on and
continue to do.
Alongside that, we continue to make
investments in law enforcement. This was a significant difference in the most
recent campaign that we had ran. The members opposite ran on doorbell cameras,
Mr. Chair, providing doorbell cameras for, I think, the entirety of the
province. We had made a significant commitment to continue to invest in actual
enforcement officers, police officers of various different enforcement
agencies, to keep our communities safe.
Where I live, we are policed by the
RCMP. Mr. Chair, here in Regina it’s the Regina Police Service, a municipal
police force. As I said, we’ve added professional teams and added members over
the course of the last 10 years into the warrant enforcement and suppression
team, the crime reduction team, the PACT [police and crisis team] teams, many
other professional teams, specialized teams that are offering services to
Saskatchewan communities and Saskatchewan people, 180 officers into those
teams.
In addition to that, a commitment for an
additional 185 officers. This is what we’re waiting for the federal government
to fund their 30 per cent portion of. In addition to that, 100 per cent, and I
. . . This is actually an important point. When it comes to the 100
municipal officers, those are 100 per cent provincially funded. Unprecedented
in the province for the province to step in and fund 100 per cent of the cost
of municipal police officers, 100 of them across the province to keep our municipalities
and keep Saskatchewan people safe.
Underlying and supporting the RCMP
officers, and underlying and supporting those municipal police officers, is 70
additional Saskatchewan provincial marshals in the provincial marshals service.
And they are there to add significant numbers in a short period of time into a
community when they may be needed.
And you think of, you know, some of the
challenges we’ve had, for example in the James Smith community, Mr. Chair, how
quickly you could have the marshals in that community. You think of some of the
challenges that we have in some of our urban centres. You could bring the
marshals in in very short order and have a significant presence supporting the
municipal police service, supporting the local RCMP service in that presence,
preventing further challenges, Mr. Chair.
And so our commitment I think in this
space to the police officers that are working, regardless of whether it be a
municipal officer or an RCMP officer, is not only are we going to invest in
you, we’re going to invest in another individual to work alongside you to
support you in what you do. Our commitment to the people of this province, when
it comes to enforcing the laws that are in their community, is that we are
going to invest in ensuring that your community is safe.
What we have added to that, to that
significant investment in recovery and enforcement, is additional consequences.
For example, those that are going to move drugs around between our communities
and make that poisonous substance, whether it be crystal meth or fentanyl,
available to our family members, our community members, and friends of ours
that unfortunately may be entered into a life of addictions, well they’re going
to have an immediate $1 million fine now. And we’re going to take those
drugs away from those people, and we’re going to take those people that are
. . . We’re talking about eradication of those drugs from our
communities. That’s the goal. That’s why these investments were made.
And that brings me to the third topic.
The third topic is we are going to need changes to the Criminal Code of Canada.
And I have raised this with the former prime minister and now the current Prime
Minister. We need changes to the Criminal Code of Canada. And there were some
made in the space of bail reform, but there needs to be more to keep our
officers safe, to keep our Canadian community members safe. There needs to be
changes with respect to the consequences when it comes to property crime.
Because all too often, virtually always, property crime is the result of a life
of addictions and supporting that life of addictions.
And there needs to be significant
consequences for those individuals that are bringing these poisonous drugs into
our nation and into our Canadian communities. We’re committed to that. We’re
committed to the investment, and we’re also committed to working alongside this
new Prime Minister and the federal government in ensuring the changes that need
to be made to the Criminal Code of Canada are going to help us support
Canadians and Saskatchewan residents in removing this poisonous substance from
our communities.
All the while we invest in every
recovery opportunity for our friends and for our family members that
unfortunately may have had a mental health challenge and unfortunately have
entered a life of addictions. We are focused on that recovery-oriented system
of care today, and we will be years into the future.
We are seeing in Alberta a bill being
introduced with respect to compassionate intervention. You’re seeing that
discussion start to happen in British Columbia, and I think you’re going to see
that discussion, which will be the next discussion, in provinces across Canada.
And it’s one that we most certainly are paying attention to, watching, in this
province as we build out that recovery-oriented system of care capacity, the
access points, but also increasing enforcement opportunities, supporting our
police officers across this province with additional recruits in the years
ahead.
[17:45]
Deputy Chair Beaudry:
— I recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Chair, with
all of the respect, I’m going to give the Premier some room here. I’m going to
take him at his word. I think he wants to believe that what he’s said perhaps
is accurate, an accurate reflection of what’s going on there. I think I’m being
generous. And I understand. I understand that this issue, this impacts families
certainly of those who sit in this legislature, families right across our
province. And no one wants to see this happen that they’ll be the victim of
crime or fall into addiction, struggle with mental health. None of us want to
see that happen.
But, Mr. Chair, we just saw a
. . . I lost track of how long that answer was, you know, defending
the policies of this government, painting a picture that frankly is not based
in the reality of those who are seeking help for themselves or their loved ones
in this province. That’s not based in reality. And I would suggest — and I know
the Premier’s not in the habit of taking any advice from members opposite — but
on this one, don’t take our word for it. Be curious about how those great plans
are actually working out on the front line. Because they’re not, Mr. Chair.
They’re not. And you are not going to be able to build a plan without the input
of those on the front line, those families who have lost loved ones and those
who have been putting up their hand for over a decade saying, you’ve got a
crisis on your hands in this province. I’m going to move on, Mr. Chair, but I
hope the Premier takes me up on that advice.
Now something we haven’t canvassed that
much today but I think is incredibly important. And there are a lot of issues.
One of them is around mammograms. Again an announcement sort of after the fact.
After we let the wait-lists for urgent mammograms and biopsies in this province
run out of control, this government reached for a private solution out of
province.
Most recently we heard that there were
515 Saskatchewan women who’ve had to go to Calgary for breast health care. That
includes those urgent mammograms and those biopsies. And I’ll tell you what. I
think we all understand that if you had the means to do so and you were facing
a diagnosis like this, folks would do everything they can. But here’s two
things. Not everyone can afford to take the time away or to pay out of pocket
to go get that care. And here’s the most important thing: they bloody well shouldn’t
have to.
So you know, I also spent some time very
recently in Calgary, in Alberta. And they’re certainly talking about separatism
there. But they’re also talking about private health care and contracts with
private health care providers in Alberta right now. There are concerns about
this system costing more than solutions in the public system, and there are
very real concerns about allowing these contracts to continue. It’s decimating
our ability to staff up in the public care system where most people want to be
able to get their health care close to home without paying out of pocket. I
digress.
Can the Premier update the numbers when
it comes to the number of mammograms and biopsies performed out of province?
And when will women in this province be able to get the care that they need
here at home?
Deputy
Chair Beaudry: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Thank you, Mr.
Chair. Numbers are just a touch dated — they were provided in the House here
the other day — but as of January 22nd, there’s 539 patients that have been
referred, had the option to be referred to the clinic in Calgary. Of those,
about 472 patients have already had their diagnostic procedure completed in
Calgary, Mr. Chair. And there’s some travel costs that are provided to each of
those individuals if they should choose to go to Calgary to have that
diagnostic service provided.
We also saw in the most recent campaign
— again delivered with funding in this budget — the ministry and the SHA, the
Saskatchewan Health Authority, are working very hard alongside the physicians
and all our health care workers to stand up and really have a fully
functioning, operating breast health centre here in Regina. The reason that
that is such a priority here in Regina is because of the success that it’s
seeing in Saskatoon, the breast health centre there. And this will really, I
think, alleviate and provide a much-needed — I was going to say valuable — but
a much-needed and required service for largely women across, not just in the
Regina area, but across the southern portion of our province.
And I can personally testify to the
quality of service that is provided by the breast health centre in Saskatoon as
I today, in this day, have someone very close to me that is utilizing those
services, and I’m so very thankful that they are there. I’m also equally
thankful that they are available now and will be increasingly available here in
Regina for, you know, women across the southern portion of our province. Mr.
Chair, that is a significant investment.
The Minister of Health and I, and some
others, were talking some time ago about — and I think there was a physician
that was part of that conversation with the Minister of Health as well — and
the question came as to, you know, once the Regina breast health centre is up
and operating, will you cease the opportunity for those publicly procured but
privately delivered mammograms in Calgary? I don’t know if we will. This
government very much is about providing an all-of-the-above service that we
can, Mr. Chair.
And when it comes to accessing, as I
said, a medical health professional in our post-election commitments, accessing
surgeries, you need to have the diagnostics in order to access that surgery in
a reasonable amount of time. And if we aren’t able to drastically reduce the
wait-lists that we have through the investments made in the breast health
centre here in Regina, my encouragement to the Minister of Health, the SHA —
and we’d obviously take the advice of health care professionals as well — but
would be to continue to procure that capacity on behalf of women that need that
service, and continue to provide not only the option but provide the travel
costs as well to Saskatchewan women. And I say that, as I say, this is again
. . . You know, cancer is something that again has touched virtually
every family in this province.
So I think this is a good question and a
fair question. And not only, you know, it allows the government the opportunity
to talk about the investments made in the breast health centre which I think
are incredibly important, in particular when you consider the linkages, the
genetic linkages and such with breast and ovarian cancer. But also the
conversation around, you know, would the government, whoever they might be in
years into the future, continue to add capacity of all options they have?
And so the question equally available
for the members opposite to answer is, would they continue to use those options
whether they be procuring additional — not either-or but additional —
availability of scans for Saskatchewan women to keep our wait-list as low as
possible when it comes to accessing mammograms? Or is that another health care
service that they would look at banning here in the province?
And we certainly will not. We’ll be
looking at all options that we have available to provide as rapid a service as
we possibly can to the people of Saskatchewan, in particular women in
Saskatchewan.
Deputy Chair Beaudry:
— Just to leave time for final statements, I would ask if this can be the last
question.
Carla Beck: — So many questions
left, Mr. Chair. Okay.
Deputy Chair Beaudry:
— I recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Very informative
walk through women’s breast care from the Premier, Mr. Chair. But this is, you
know, seriously this is something that too many people in our province are
impacted by.
The Premier suggests that it’s a
good-news story that we’ve got women flying, driving, to Calgary; that we’re
paying 10 times more for those mammograms as opposed to what we would pay in
the public system; that women are often left without their supports, far away
from home, when they get the worst diagnosis of their entire lives, Mr. Chair;
and also that we are poaching valuable health care workers from our public
system that would allow women to be able to receive that care and that
diagnosis near home.
One of the things that is going to
determine whether any of our needed expansion in health care is going to be
successful is a real plan to staff up, to retain those valuable health care
workers that we already have in our province, something that we’ve done a
terrible job of. We’re losing more of those workers out of province than any
other province.
And a real plan to ensure that we have a
grow-your-own health strategy as my colleague, the deputy leader, has been
calling for, a solution built with communities and health care providers,
something they’ve been calling for, for years.
You know, it’s not just the deputy
leader, although she does know her stuff. And it’s not just our associate
critics and our Rural and Remote Health critics that have been calling for
this, and front-line health workers. This is something that the Provincial
Auditor has called for, as well as something that’s promised in the health
human resources plan, Mr. Chair, and that is the need to recruit, train, retain
more First Nations and Métis health care providers in this province.
A real plan, not waving and giving
platitudes to the most ambitious or whatever it is they say every time they
wave that plan, but actually building a plan — this is important — with those
communities. A real plan that is actually going to see more First Nations and
Métis health care providers in our province.
[18:00]
We don’t see a plan so far, as I’ve
said, Mr. Chair. The auditor has noted the lack of a plan as well. When are we
going to see from that government an end to the platitudes and a real plan to
develop, retain, recruit, train First Nations and Métis health care providers
in this province so that people right across this province can get the care
that they need close to home, when and where they need it? When will we see a
plan, Mr. Chair?
Deputy
Chair Beaudry: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Just to update
with some numbers on the referrals and the procedures completed in Calgary, as
per the first question. The information I provided I believe was current as of
January 22nd. This is updated information: there’s been 590 referrals, 550
procedures completed.
Mr. Speaker, when it comes to health
care, investments in the health human resource plan that we have in this
province, we’ve been really enacting and funding with well over
$100 million in funding in the last few years. It’s really focused in four
different areas — to train, to recruit, to retain, and to incentivize those
hard to recruit — whether it be location or disciplines or specialities that we
have.
Mr. Chair, when it comes to training, we
talked prior to the election of the 850 additional seats that were provided to
various advanced ed institutes, about $20 million in specific Indigenous
funding that’s being provided to those institutes, Mr. Chair. And I think, in
fairness, some commitments coming from the Saskatchewan Health Authority on the
levels of hiring not just Saskatchewan-trained graduates but Indigenous-trained
graduates here in the province. Dumont Technical Institute, for example, has a
commitment from the Saskatchewan Health Authority over the next five years to
hire 450 health care grads from that institute.
I think of some of the partnership work
that we’re doing with SIIT [Saskatchewan Indian Institute of Technologies] and
today Saskatoon Tribal Council Chief Mark Arcand was here. And I think of first
the Virtual Health Hub. Fortunately it won’t be banned under this government.
That was one of the banned services suggested by the members opposite.
But that partnership with the federal
government and Whitecap Dakota First Nation and Dr. Mendez, who is operating
and really steering the health care portion service of that ship — providing
service to a number of Indigenous communities as well as the community of
Gravelbourg and has the potential to provide to many more communities — and has
already through Dr. Mendez some, I think, some global partnerships on health
care advancement, research, and such. And he’s an interesting and an innovative
guy. If you haven’t had the opportunity to meet Dr. Mendez, he definitely
thinks outside of the box.
That, alongside with the partnership
that we have with Ahtahkakoop Cree Nation in the urgent care centre in
Saskatoon, that is a tripartite partnership. And let me just say on a personal
note a great thanks both with his representation and advocacy for SIIT but also
that particular project on behalf of his home First Nation, but to the late Ray
Ahenakew and his family, who certainly worked very hard and was very passionate
and dedicated to that facility coming forward in partnership with Ahtahkakoop
Cree Nation through Ahtahkakoop Cree Developments.
As I said earlier, that will have and
really be a replica to some degree of what we see down here in Regina in the
urgent care centre with the urgent care being provided to alleviate some of the
pressures in our emergency rooms, but also with the access for mental health
care and addictions services, Mr. Chair.
But in addition to that, there is a
partnership with SIIT coming into that space as well to train, to offer
training courses, and to offer practicums operating in that environment in the
urgent care centre, training additional Indigenous people and providing them
with jobs through the SHA, maybe not even just in that urgent care centre but
providing them that practicum experience to work wherever we have an
opportunity across the province.
So again, thinking a little bit outside
of the box in the way of the partnerships that we are striking and forming, and
in that case, thank you to the late Ray Ahenakew, really a mentor and an
Indigenous Elder that I relied on for many years on his opinions, guidance, and
phone calls when he thinks I may have made the wrong move or the wrong
decision. He provided very sage but direct advice, Mr. Chair. But a couple of
examples there.
More broadly to the health care system
as a whole . . . This is a fair question because the Saskatchewan
Health Authority, the recruitment agency of Saskatchewan, the Ministry of
Health, and I would say more broadly all of us involved in our communities
. . . And there’s local recruitment committees. I was Chair of one
prior to being elected in 2011 in the community in the region where I live, Mr.
Chair. We all have some significant work to do. This is a very fair question in
an environment across Canada where it’s very competitive in attracting health
care professionals into any province in Saskatchewan. So we have some work to
do.
We are going to need 500 staff to staff
the expansion of the Victoria Hospital in Prince Albert — expansion of beds,
expansion of services — largely for northern residents so they won’t have to go
to Saskatoon but can access those services right closer to home in Prince
Albert. We are going to have to staff the urgent care centres that we are
talking about. And I mentioned all of the communities where those urgent care
centres are going to be provided.
And as we look ahead . . . And
it is working, I think. Earlier we were talking about the breast health centre
in Regina. The minister’s informed me that it is 100 per cent staffed today and
it’s up and operating. That’s a good thing for women throughout southern
Saskatchewan. It’s a good thing for families. And I can say this as somewhat of
an extension of one of those women. It’s a good thing for families, Mr. Chair,
because it is certainly often people that we so much love that are undergoing,
you know, the treatments that thankfully are available in this province.
So as we continue to look ahead with
that health human resource plan and continue to expand the training seats that
we have, building our own capacity within the province — I see a lot young
folks here today — so that they have an opportunity if they want to work in
health care, be it LPN [licensed practical nurse], RN [registered nurse],
physician, specialist, whatever that might be, paramedic, advanced care
paramedic, whatever that might be, they’ll have the opportunity to access that
training and have the opportunity to have a job here in Saskatchewan upon the
completion of that training.
We see the expansion of the nurse
training program with the campus in downtown Prince Albert. We see the
expansion of the nurse training program in all of our major institutes. We see
the expansion of not only the training seats in the College of Medicine — I
believe it’s at 105 if I’m not mistaken here today; that was 60 when we formed
government — the expansion I would say equally important, maybe even more
important, of the residency seats associated with the College of Medicine, Mr.
Chair, which were again 60 in 2007 when we formed government because
. . .
And the reason I know this is I was a
volunteer working as the Chair of our recruitment agency locally, and so that’s
where I met the likes of Max Hendricks, who was head of what was known as the
Physician Recruitment Agency of Saskatchewan at the time. Went on to be
saskdocs and now the provincial recruitment agency. But now our residency seats
thankfully are not 60 — 140 I understand this coming year funded in this
balanced budget that was presented on the floor of this Assembly.
Mr. Chair, when it comes to recruiting
those folks . . . And I’ll start with physicians, but I want to get
to nurses as well. 196 physicians have been recruited by the Saskatchewan
Health Authority from April 1st, 2024 till March 31st, 2025 — 196 physicians.
More work to do, but a significant number. Of those, 51 were family physicians
recruited from the University of Saskatchewan’s residency program, and 31 other
specialists, so 77 per cent of the entirety. And so we have some work to do
there as well. I’d like to see that number up to 90 per cent or higher, as high
as we can get it.
And I have a nursing number here
somewhere that I’ve already misplaced. Right here, Mr. Chair. 1,006 this last
year, practising registered nurses, RNs, were brought in in 2024. That included
63 nurse practitioners. Mr. Chair, that’s who I see is a nurse practitioner.
Mr. Chair, over the last two years,
2,000 registered nurses been brought into the province. Mr. Chair, I think
there is greater opportunity, when you look at the four points of the
recruitment plan that we had put forward — in particular in training our youth
who are our children and grandchildren and giving them the opportunity to not
only train in Saskatchewan but have a career in a Saskatchewan community — that
opportunity is greater today than it has ever been in the history of our
province.
Now we have some work to do
collectively, I would say all of us as community members, as members of this
province — for sure the SHA, the Ministry of Health, the minister. Government
has, you know, an additional responsibility of recruiting hundreds of health
care workers over the next number of years to staff the infrastructure that we
thankfully are able to build within this balanced budget that was provided to
Saskatchewan people, on behalf of Saskatchewan people, on the floor of this
Assembly. But thankfully, I would say as well we have a plan in place to do
just that.
[18:15]
Mr. Chair, this is a far sight from when
this government was elected. And I’m not going to go back and talk about the
NDP of years ago. People can make their own decisions with respect to the
record of that party when it comes to health care and the record of this
government over the last 16 years and the investments that we have made —
whether that be a hospital in Moose Jaw; whether that be a children’s hospital
in Saskatoon; whether it be a hospital we see being built in Weyburn,
Saskatchewan; or whether it be the investments we’re making in long-term care,
notably in La Ronge is having a brand new long-term care facility. The
fundraising group for the furnishings in that facility were down here on budget
day, and we were happy to host them, Mr. Chair.
But continued investments in rural
health care facilities, in access to health care professionals in both rural
and urban environments, and using every tool available, every tool available in
providing additional services and providing a better service to the people of
Saskatchewan.
So much work to do; so fair question.
This is a government that certainly is committed to doing it, and certainly is
committed to doing it within the strong growing economy that we have. In fact I
would say the only reason that we’re able to make that commitment, Mr. Chair,
is because we have one of the strongest economies in the nation of Canada. And
it’s through that economy that we’re making those very investments that we had
the opportunity to talk about here today, investments in ensuring that our province
that we know, love, and work in and live in remains the most affordable
province in the nation of Canada. Ensuring that our province, Mr. Chair, people
that live here, have access to a medical health care professional when they
need it and they have access to a surgery should they need it.
People in this province and our children
who are students in our schools have the very best opportunity for the highest
outcomes, in particular in that K to 3 space, because we know the successes in
post-grade 3 are greatly increased when you come out of grade 3 reading,
writing, and adding at that level.
And I would say equally as important to
any of those other investments is investing in the safety of our communities
and the recovery unfortunately of our brothers and sisters, friends and family
members that have in some way had a mental health challenge and all too often
succumbed to a life living with addictions.
Mr. Chair, it is only through the
strength of that Saskatchewan economy that is the north star of this government
and the north star of everyone that sits on this side of the House, that we can
continue to foster that investment environment so that we can make those
investments that are so valuable to the people that we represent.
Deputy Chair Beaudry: — Seeing as we’ve reached the end of the
question-and-answer period, I would ask the officials to leave so that we can
begin voting on estimates.
Is subvote
(EX01), central management and services in the amount of $6,357,000 agreed?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Deputy Chair Beaudry: — Carried. Is subvote (EX03), communications
office in the amount of $1,158,000 agreed?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Deputy Chair Beaudry: — Carried. Is subvote (EX04), cabinet planning in
the amount of $769,000 agreed?
Some Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Deputy Chair Beaudry: — Carried. Is subvote (EX06), members of the
Executive Council in the amount of $155,000.
This is a statutory amount. No vote is required.
Is subvote (EX05), cabinet secretariat
in the amount $541,000, agreed?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Deputy
Chair Beaudry: — Carried. Is subvote (EX08), House
business and research in the . . . Oh sorry.
Is subvote (EX07), Premier’s office in
the amount of $534,000, agreed?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Deputy
Chair Beaudry: — Carried. Is subvote (EX08), for the
second time, House business and research in the amount of $273,000, agreed?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Deputy
Chair Beaudry: — Carried. Is subvote (EX10),
intergovernmental affairs in the amount of $2,929,000, agreed?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Deputy
Chair Beaudry: — Carried. Is subvote (EX12),
Lieutenant Governor’s office in the amount of $753,000, agreed?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Deputy
Chair Beaudry: — Carried.
Resolved that there
be granted to His Majesty for the 12 months ending March 31st, 2026, the
following sums for Executive Council: $13,314,000.
Is that agreed?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Deputy
Chair Beaudry: — Carried. There being no further
business before the committee, I would invite a member to move that the
committee rise, report progress, and ask for leave to sit again. I recognize
the Government House Leader.
Hon. Tim
McLeod: —
Thank you, Mr. Chair. I move that the committee rise, report progress, and ask
for leave to sit again.
Deputy
Chair Beaudry: — It has been moved by the Government
House Leader that the committee rise, report progress, and ask for leave to sit
again. Is that agreed?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Deputy Chair Beaudry:
— Carried.
[The
Speaker resumed the Chair.]
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. Just quickly, and I know the officials have left, but perhaps they’re
still listening or maybe they’re watching a hockey game or something, Mr.
Speaker. I wanted to say sincerely thank you. Thank you to the Chair, to the
officials that were here today. And thank you to the Premier for the debate,
for the answers or the approaches towards answers, but sincerely thank you for
your service, and to all members for that.
I really want to say one thing clearly.
I want to thank my colleagues here, Mr. Speaker. I apologized to them; I didn’t
get to all of their questions today. That doesn’t mean they weren’t important,
but it just means maybe I was getting longer answers than I expected, Mr.
Speaker.
I also want to say thank you to the
team, my team who didn’t join me in here today, but who were very instrumental
not only in the work that I did today but the work that we do every day in this
Assembly, Mr. Speaker. You couldn’t ask for a better, more hard-working crew.
And although we have increased our numbers, I still see when the caucus staff
come in to the Assembly, we’re still a bit outnumbered but we’re getting
closer, Mr. Speaker.
We’re not content. We’re not content
with that election result, but we’re not content with the status quo in this
province, Mr. Speaker. This is a team that will continue to ask the hard
questions, continue to look for answers, continue to hold the government to
account, Mr. Speaker. That’s a choice, whether they answer the questions or
not.
I know what we’re focused on. This is a
team focused on the future of this province, not content with talking points
and flapping around self-congratulatory messages. Actually digging in and doing
the work. We’ll continue to ask the hard questions, Mr. Speaker. We’re going to
continue to do that.
Today we thank the members of this
Assembly, committee, the officials for being here. We’re going to continue to
focus on that bright future that we see for all people in this province. Thank
you.
Speaker
Goudy: — And the final statement from the
Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Well thank you,
Mr. Speaker. And I appreciate just a couple of minutes to essentially say thank
you to a number of folks.
And I’d start with all the building
staff that work here not just today but every day. And I had the opportunity to
make a brief introduction of Ralph, who was a fixture in this building for so
many years. But there’s so many others that, you know, keep this building in
the pristine condition that it is. It makes, I think, not only us proud that
work in it but all Saskatchewan residents proud that we have a facility like
this, a piece of infrastructure like this to debate, yes, policies of the
province moving forward, but I think it’s really indicative of our province,
who the people are, and where we’re going to.
To all the officials in this Assembly
that allow us to do our work each and every day: very shortly we’re going to
leave you alone for a few months, but not quite yet. But I do thank you for all
of the work you do, whether it be on the floor of this Assembly, in committee.
And the House leaders assured me that there’s additional work that happens
beyond those two rooms, a lot of it, Mr. Chair. And I’m gracious and thankful
for it.
The officials that joined us here today
for our Executive Council estimates. Raynelle Wilson — our public service is
led incredibly well by Raynelle, who is a very passionate yet compassionate
person with all she does each and every day, most certainly with her approach
to myself.
Myron Soloduk that joined us; Jared
Dunlop, my chief of staff; Reg Downs, who has been a fixture in this building
for many years and I would say an asset to the people of Saskatchewan with his
very sharp policy mind.
Ashley Boha; Ashley Anderson — I have an
office full of Ashleys now. We’re going to start renaming them shortly, Mr.
Chair. And then of course our House business team led by Ashley Wass, who wrote
this note and made sure that she got her own name in there, Mr. Chair. And I
finally have her last name correct. But I really appreciate the work the
entirety of the Ashleys provide on behalf of the people of the province.
And alongside Ashley is Sean Wilson, who
is sitting at the back here; Paul Ripplinger; and Keenan Boutilier is back
working with us, and we really appreciate him and the work that he had done for
years previously. And I appreciate the fact that he’s back with us now.
There’s a number of staff members,
they’ve left now but were watching . . . All but one have left. Two.
Watching in the gallery. Didn’t get the memo. All the staff members that work
on both sides of the House, in fairness, whether it be the caucus office staff
or the ministerial office, thank you to each of them for what they do, and for
their families in supporting them in that work.
[18:30]
I do want to say a thank you to all
elected members. I’ll start with the opposition members. Thank you not only for
what you do . . . Each of you were elected by your citizens and on
behalf of your citizens. And I think in large, this province is served well by
the elected members that we have here when you compare and contrast with, you
know, some of the elected parliaments that we see happening in not just other
areas of Canada but other areas of the world. And so I want to truly thank you
for not only running in this last election, if it was your first, but thank you
for the service that you provide.
And through you, I say thank you to your
families. Nobody, regardless of where you sit on the floor of this Assembly,
serves without the love and support of their family, and I through you would
say thank you to yours.
To the Leader of the Opposition, I’ll do
one quick slight, but I’ll include the member from Rosemont in this as well as
the Deputy Premier. I’m fortunate tonight. My hockey team played last night and
likely will play tomorrow night, but the Deputy Premier, the member from
Rosemont, and the Opposition Leader have no such dilemma this season, Mr.
Chair.
But I do want to thank the Leader of the
Opposition and equally thank, through her, her family — children and husband,
spouse, and you know, other family members that support the work that she does.
That is some of the most important work in a democracy. The opposition
certainly has a role in a functioning democracy, and Saskatchewan is served
very well by this Leader of the Opposition that is here today. And so I thank
her for her very dedicated service to the people of Saskatchewan, and I say
that very sincerely.
I also want to thank all of the members
on this side of the House. We’re probably biased with the teams that we have,
and I certainly am, but I want to thank all of the members on this side of the
House.
We have a number of new members, and I
want to thank each of you for running in that election. I want to thank you for
just how quickly you’ve been able to pick up and cut your teeth with what
happens in this facility, in this building, in this system of governance that
we have. It’s not all written down and there’s no manual. You’ve got to kind of
sort through it as you find your way. And you certainly are doing all of that.
And I likewise want to, through you,
thank your families. It isn’t without them. You don’t get to be here without
them, and that’s all I can say is they are the support mechanisms behind all
that happens on the floor of this Assembly.
Last but not least, I want to just say a
special thanks to the folks that built the document that we were here to debate
today: the budget. And so a number of ministry officials. And I had — I don’t
know if it was a privilege, an opportunity, or a sentence — to sit on treasury
board for a number of years. Mr. Speaker, I want to thank all of the ministry
officials that I know worked very hard in bringing the very best information,
whether it be revenue projections, whether it be expense sittings that we go
through ad nauseam really, with the various ministers and ministries. But thank
all the Finance officials for the work that they do. I don’t think a Finance
official has been on a holiday to Mexico in January for however long this
province has been here and we’ve been going through that process, Mr. Chair.
Also our treasury board members, a
number of members that sit on treasury board. You also don’t get to go on a
winter holiday anywhere as well because you’re in conducting the business of
formulating and bringing together not only this budget but doing your level
best to keep whatever budget year we’re in on track as well.
And the leader and the glue and one of
the individuals that, in my opinion, is one of the hardest working individuals
in the Government of Saskatchewan — next to yourself, of course, Mr. Speaker —
would be the Deputy Premier and the Minister of Finance in the Government of
Saskatchewan. And I thank him not only for this budget — because it’s balanced;
it’s easier to be thankful when it’s balanced — but I thank him for all of the
work and the effort that he does not just as the Minister of Finance but as a minister
of a number of other portfolios. He’s a real leader and a mentor for many in
our caucus and in this building, Mr. Chair. Thank you, Minister, for what you
do.
With that, Mr. Speaker, I would just
close with a special thanks to you. I don’t think you particularly sought out
or thought that you were going to be the referee of the Legislative Assembly
here. There’s been some changes, I think, in the conduct of individuals on both
sides of this House. And it’s not perfect, but I would say that — my opinion,
which is worth nothing, Mr. Speaker — I would say the conduct that I see
happening in the debate that’s happening across the floor of this Assembly is
maybe better than it has been in years gone by. And much of that credit not
only goes to the Leader of the Opposition, but much of that credit goes to you
as well. And so I thank you.
And I thank your family for supporting
you not just in being a member and a representative for the community and
surrounding area of Melfort, but I thank them for supporting you in sitting in
the chair that you’re sitting in. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Chair of Committees.
Chris Beaudry: — Mr. Speaker, I’m
instructed by the committee to report progress and ask for leave to sit again.
Speaker
Goudy: — And when shall the committee sit
again? I recognize the Government House Leader.
Hon. Tim
McLeod: —
Next sitting.
Speaker
Goudy: — Next sitting. And it now being past
the ordinary time of adjournment, this House stands adjourned until tomorrow at
10 a.m.
[The Assembly adjourned at 18:37.]
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