CONTENTS
Moose Jaw Judo Club Wins Provincial Title
Regina Pat Canadians Win Telus Cup
New Elementary School in La Loche Celebrates Indigenous
Culture
Report Alerts Bird Enthusiasts to Conservation Issues
Smile Cookies Campaign Raises Money for Charities and
Community Groups
Honouring Survivors during Sexual Violence Prevention Month
Saskatchewan Shows Remarkable Economic Growth in 2024
National Unity and Relationship with Federal Government
Food Prices and Affordability Measures
Support for Ukrainian Refugees
Tuition Costs and Funding for Post-Secondary Education
Access to Health Care in the North
Canadian Sovereignty and Relationship with Federal
Government
Motion No. 4 — Concerns with Federal Energy Policies
FIRST
SESSION — THIRTIETH LEGISLATURE
of
the
Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan
DEBATES
AND PROCEEDINGS
(HANSARD)
N.S. Vol. 66 No. 32A Thursday,
May 1, 2025, 10:00
[The
Assembly met at 10:00.]
[Prayers]
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of the Environment.
Hon. Travis
Keisig: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I ask leave for an extended introduction.
Speaker
Goudy: — The Minister has requested leave for
an extended introduction. Is leave granted?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Hon. Travis
Keisig: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you to all of my colleagues. Today I am
honoured to introduce Matt Morrison, the chief executive officer of PNWER [Pacific NorthWest Economic
Region]. Give a wave, Matt. And joining him today is Scott Hunter from the
Ministry of Trade and Export Development from the Government of Saskatchewan,
director of US [United States] relations. They are here today with the Pacific NorthWest Economic Region, or PNWER.
PNWER
is a public-private partnership of governments, businesses, and non-government
organizations from the northwest region of our continent of North America. PNWER includes the American states of Alaska, Idaho,
Montana, Oregon, Washington; the Canadian provinces British Columbia, Alberta,
Saskatchewan; and the territories of Yukon and Northwest Territories.
Combined, Mr. Speaker, we are the 11th
largest economy in the world. We have a common cause to promote growth, to
promote competitiveness through regional collaboration and the reduction of
trade and regulatory barriers. And, Mr. Speaker, that could not be more
relevant today.
I’ve had the honour of serving as
Saskatchewan’s representative, and I’m looking forward to the 2025 Annual
Summit in Bellevue, Washington. PNWER has and will
continue to make significant contributions to the strong and enduring
partnership of our two great nations, and I would ask all members of this
Assembly to join me in welcoming these very distinguished guests to the
legislature here today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina South Albert.
Aleana Young: — Thank you very
much, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you, on behalf of the official opposition
it’s my pleasure to join with the minister opposite and welcome Mr. Morrison
and — forgive me; I only got the first name — Scott to this, the Legislative
Assembly of Saskatchewan.
The work that we do as part of PNWER and the work that PNWER
does overall is so valuable. And more now than ever, the importance of
bilateral collaboration, of strengthening those relationships, strengthening
those economic ties, doing what we can to reduce uncertainty, reduce trade
barriers and build that collaboration, that co-operation, that understanding
that is so critical, not just to the economy of Saskatchewan but the economy of
the 10 other members that the minister spoke of.
So on behalf of the official opposition,
hope you enjoy a beautiful albeit a little bit rainy day here in Saskatchewan,
and we look forward to the conference this summer. And thank you for all of
your work and your service to this important organization.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Canora-Pelly.
Sean Wilson: — Mr. Speaker, to
you and through you, up in your gallery I’d like to introduce to you the former
MP [Member of Parliament] for Yorkton-Melville, Garry Breitkreuz.
Garry was first elected in 1993 in the
newly formed Yorkton-Melville riding and had served there till 2015. Garry had
been known to be the most outspoken member of the House of Commons on his
opposition to the Canadian gun registry. He still resides in the riding and has
been a real help for me. So I invite all members to welcome Garry to his
Legislative Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Mount Royal.
Trent Wotherspoon:
— Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On behalf of the official
opposition, it’s an honour to join with the member to welcome Garry Breitkreuz to his Assembly to thank him for his service as
a Member of Parliament and his service to this province, Mr. Speaker. And I ask
all members to join with me in welcoming Garry Breitkreuz
to the Saskatchewan Assembly.
And, Mr. Speaker, while on my feet I’d
like to also welcome the esteemed Fred Bradshaw, MLA [Member of the Legislative
Assembly] for Carrot River for many years. He’s got his Riders tie on back
there, Mr. Speaker. He looks younger these days than when he served in here.
He’s still making great brownies and butter tarts, Mr. Speaker.
He sent me a message a few weeks back,
Mr. Speaker — I know we don’t like to get into text messages too much in this
Assembly — but the picture was of a bunch of fish that had been caught, but
there was still no proof that he had caught any of them, Mr. Speaker. And we’re
still looking for confirmation on that. I ask all members to welcome Fred
Bradshaw to his Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Justice.
Hon. Tim
McLeod: —
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you, it gives me great
pleasure to introduce 34 grade 12 students from A.E. Peacock Collegiate in
Moose Jaw who are accompanied here by their teacher, Carrie Kiefer. Mr.
Speaker, Ms. Kiefer regularly brings her classes to this Assembly to watch
question period and they are always very well prepared.
It is the highlight of my week to be
able to meet with them, and I look forward to doing that today and very much
look forward to answering their questions. So if all the members of the
Assembly could please join me in welcoming these students from A.E. Peacock
Collegiate in Moose Jaw.
Speaker Goudy: — I recognize the
member from Saskatoon Chief Mistawasis.
Don McBean: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. To you and through you, I’m very pleased to introduce to the
Legislative Assembly a good friend and good citizen of Saskatoon, Doug Fast.
He’s over on the other side keeping track of us.
And Doug and I first met when I was
teaching his daughter. And I think he just wasn’t sure that I could look after
her when we went on camping trips, so we bonded around the campfire making sure
everyone stayed in their tents. And from that introduction, he’s become a great
friend. He and his wife, Gail, and the whole family are good friends of my
wife, Valérie, and I.
Doug, I knew he worked on the railway. I
knew he was a big union guy, and driving down this morning I got the details on
that. You know, he started as a brakeman in ’79 — he wants us to know that
there are no brakemen anymore; there are just train persons on the trains — and
worked his way up from that to be a locomotive engineer when he retired in
2015. Big union guy, TCRC, if you don’t know — just
as I didn’t know just a couple of hours ago — Teamsters Canada Rail Conference.
He was very involved in that as a health and safety rep, legislative rep, local
chairperson.
Lived in Caswell Hill on the west side
for the longest time. And recently in retirement, in order to have a lock-key
type residence, he — shame — moved over to the east side of Saskatoon, and he
unfortunately landed in the riding of Willowgrove.
And I’m just so sorry that the minister
from Willowgrove is not here today to acknowledge and
to repeat the introduction, but on behalf of myself, my family, please welcome
Doug Fast to his Legislative Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from White City-Qu’Appelle.
Brad
Crassweller: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you, seated behind me in the east
gallery here, we have 47 students from Emerald Ridge Elementary School in White
City accompanied by their teachers: Mr. Longstaff, Mrs. Sullivan, and Mrs.
Beck.
And, Mr. Speaker, as I almost look at
them — because I can’t quite see them but I know they’re there — as I look at
this great group of students, one word comes to mind and that is “potential.”
There is so much potential sitting in both of these galleries right now. We
have future doctors, teachers, nurses, engineers, trade workers, small-business
owners, farmers, ranchers, and even some lawyers, I would dare say. So much
potential. Truly amazing.
And I look forward to getting together
with these guys after question period for some good questions and of course
some ice cream. And I’d ask all members to join me in welcoming these students
from Emerald Ridge Elementary School in White City. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — And I haven’t met them yet, but I’m
hearing that there’s a home-school group from Kinistino
here. Is that true? There they are. And I’m looking forward to catching up with
you after question period this morning.
I think Melfort won the lottery when we
inherited Kinistino from Batoche. And appreciate
having you as part of our constituency, and welcome to your Legislative
Assembly this morning. Hope you enjoy the proceedings and look forward to a
visit afterwards.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the member from
Cumberland.
Jordan McPhail: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. It’s an honour to rise today to present a petition to the Government
of Saskatchewan calling for the recognition of the Timber Bay residential
school as a provincially run residential school, release the school records, a
formal apology, and compensation to the survivors.
The undersigned residents of Canada wish
to bring the attention of the following: that survivors of the Timber Bay
residential school have been denied the Indian residential school settlements
that other sites received on the basis that the school was run by the province
of Saskatchewan rather than operated by the federal government; and that the
Timber Bay residential school is the only residential school in Canada with an
open RCMP [Royal Canadian Mounted Police] investigation surrounding historical
crimes.
I’ll read the prayer:
We, in the prayer
that reads as follows, respectfully request that the Legislative Assembly of
Saskatchewan call on the Government of Saskatchewan to recognize the Timber Bay
school as a provincially run residential school, release the school records to the
survivors, offer the students of this school a formal apology, and compensate
the survivors.
The signatories of this petition reside
in Air Ronge. I do so present.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Athabasca.
Leroy
Laliberte: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to present a petition to the Government of
Saskatchewan calling for duty-to-consult legislation.
We, the undersigned residents of the
province of Saskatchewan, wish to bring to your attention the following.
Saskatchewan needs legislation to ensure the provincial duty-to-consult is
fulfilled and carried out in the honour of the Crown. The Sask Party government has voted against the duty-to-consult legislation. The Sask Party government did not follow its own guidelines on
consulting with inherent and treaty right holders while drafting the current
duty-to-consult policy.
The Truth and
Reconciliation Commission of Canada Call to Action no. 47 has called all
levels of government, including the provincial governments, to reform laws,
policies, and strategies that rely on outdated and backwards principles of
sovereignty for the Indigenous peoples and lands.
With that I will read the prayer:
We, in the prayer
reads as follows, respectfully request the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan
to call on the Government of Saskatchewan to ensure duty-to-consult into law by
enacting meaningful duty-to-consult legislation.
The undersigned signatories reside in
Yellow Quill. I do so present.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Chief Mistawasis.
Don McBean: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. It is my privilege to present a petition to the Legislative Assembly
of Saskatchewan calling for mandatory intimate partner violence education.
We, the undersigned residents in the
province of Saskatchewan, wish to bring the attention of the following.
Saskatchewan has the highest rate of per capita intimate partner violence, IPV,
also known as domestic violence, in Canada. The economic impact of IPV can be
over $7 billion a year. A large portion of tangible IPV costs are paid for
by the government for items like criminal and civil justice and health care.
Annual estimated losses to employers can
be $77 million over Canada. Workplace orientation would include all
genders from all walks of life in all areas of the province. Employers and
employees need to know the signs of IPV and where to call for help. Education
is the key to changing the rates of IPV.
And I read the prayer:
Respectfully
request the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan to call upon the Government of
Saskatchewan to immediately mandate education on intimate partner violence that
it be included in the orientation process for all new employees across all
workplaces in the province.
The signatories of this petition reside
in Saskatoon. I do here submit.
[10:15]
Speaker Goudy:
— I recognize the member from Moose Jaw Wakamow.
Megan
Patterson: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In April Moose Jaw hosted provincials for the sport of
judo. Congratulations to all the athletes from across the province who came to
compete. Two judo clubs from Moose Jaw sent athletes: Control Jiu Jitsu and the
Moose Jaw Koseikan Club. Athletes from both clubs had
a great showing. They had fun, were competitive, and improved their skills.
Congratulations to the Moose Jaw Koseikan Club, who defended their provincial club title.
The Koseikan Club is home to four of the six
nationally ranked judo athletes in Saskatchewan. Avery Gibney is a member of
this club. She is 19 years old and has her second-degree black belt. Avery is
currently ranked seventh in her category in Canada.
Avery has a great role model in her
mother, Destiny Diehl, who also has her second-degree black belt. Destiny
placed fifth in the 2024 world veterans championship. Destiny is fulfilling her
passion to promote and improve the status of women’s judo in Saskatchewan. She
is a high-performance coach with the Koseikan Club
and has coached internationally with Team Canada.
The lessons of judo — adaptability,
discipline, and courage — empower these athletes to succeed in life. Please
join me in celebrating all judo athletes, coaches, and organizers in this
province.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Mount Royal.
Trent Wotherspoon:
— Mr. Speaker, I rose in this Assembly a little over a week
ago to send our best wishes to the Regina Pat Canadians as they headed off to
compete in the Telus Cup, Hockey Canada’s U18 [under 18] National Championship. And today I rise to
celebrate and welcome home the Pat Cs as national champions. They defeated the
Chevaliers de Lévis
3 to 2 in overtime in the final.
As I’ve shared, this Pat Cs squad is a
remarkable team, led on the bench by Coach Ryan Hodgins, on the ice by Coach
Logan Mehl and by Maddox Schultz, a phenom, a
generational talent. Maddox rifled home the OT [overtime] tournament winner,
and he lit up and led the tourney in scoring with 20 points as an underage
player — and the youngest player, at 15 — in the U18
National Championship. He was rightly named Tournament MVP [most valuable
player]. Eli Johnson led the way on defence and was named Top Defence. Taylor Tabashniuk was rock solid between the pipes with a .951
save percentage, and went undefeated.
The Pat Cs team is stacked from top to
bottom with talent and grit. They are champions and they’ve become legends,
winning the national championship a record five times now for the Pat Cs.
I ask all members of this Assembly to
join with me to celebrate the Regina Pat Canadians as national champions — the
players, the coaches, the proud parents, and all that have contributed to the
success of this team and these players. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Batoche.
Darlene Rowden: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. I’m thrilled to announce the completion of the Nįtélazёtúë
Elementary School. This 5548 square metre school located next to Dene High
School is designed to accommodate approximately 475 students from
pre-kindergarten to grade 6. Its architecture, developed with community input,
beautifully celebrates Indigenous culture and the natural beauty of the area.
This facility provides students with a
safe and positive space to learn and grow. Northern Lights School Division
board Chair Joey McCallum expressed pride in the project, highlighting the
benefits of the modern facility with its enhanced cultural and learning spaces.
Mr. Speaker, since 2008 the Government
of Saskatchewan has committed approximately 2.8 billion towards school
infrastructure projects, including 71 new schools and 31 major renovation
projects. This new school demonstrates our government’s unwavering commitment
to investing in education and stands as a shining example of what can be
achieved through collaboration and shared vision.
I want to thank the Northern Lights
School Division and local community partners for helping make this happen. The
completion of this new school in La Loche is a
momentous occasion for students, families, and the entire community. Together
we are building a brighter future for our children and our communities. Thank
you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Walsh Acres.
Jared Clarke: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. On October 8th, 2024 the third edition of The State of Canada’s
Birds report was released. It is built from 50 years of bird monitoring
data and seeks to answer the question, how are Canada’s birds doing?
There are a few key take-aways from the
report. One, conservation works. Waterfowl species like ducks and geese have
increased by 24 per cent, thanks to concerted efforts. However these gains are
poised to be erased by the government’s new agricultural water stewardship
policy, which will see many wetlands in the province drained.
The other key take-away is that
grassland birds are in crisis. These are our prairie birds, the birds we share
this land with — western meadowlarks, greater sage grouse, burrowing owls. This
group of birds have declined by 67 per cent. That means if you went for a drive
in 1970 and found 100 meadowlarks, today on that same drive you would find only
33.
In 1873 the chestnut-collared longspur
was described as the most abundant grassland songbird in Saskatchewan. It is a
beautiful sparrow-sized bird with a magical call found only on native prairie
grasslands. Its population has declined by 95 per cent and is now listed as an
endangered species.
These birds are disappearing before our
eyes. What is this government doing to ensure the soundtrack of the prairies
doesn’t fade to a deafening silence? Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from White City-Qu’Appelle.
Brad
Crassweller: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On Monday, April 28th I had the privilege of going to
the Tim Hortons in Balgonie to help decorate Smile Cookies.
The first-ever Smile Cookie campaign
took place in 1996 and raised funds to support Hamilton’s children’s hospital.
Since then the annual Smile Cookie campaign has raised more than $130 million
for charities and community groups.
The Smile Cookie campaign runs from
April 28th to Sunday, May 4th. One hundred per cent of the proceeds are donated
to local charities that are selected through an application process and chosen
by the restaurant owners. I would encourage all members to buy some Smile
Cookies that help great charities and community groups throughout our province.
This year the cookies we decorate in
Balgonie and Emerald Park are going to support the Edenwold
Early Years & Youth Centre, an incredible asset in the community of Edenwold, not to mention the great constituency of White
City-Qu’Appelle. This year they believe they will raise over $20,000 for the
centre.
I’d like to thank Tim Hortons and the
many workers and the volunteers and the rookie cookie decorators for a job well
done to put a smile on so many faces. I must also mention, with the
encouragement from the member from Moosomin-Montmartre — who I will also add in
is the Deputy Whip so I will listen to him — that currently Moosomin-Montmartre
is in first place as far as cookies sold.
So I would ask all members to help White
City-Qu’Appelle to give Moosomin-Montmartre a run for their money and buy more
cookies because, after all, we are close to the city so you’ll save gas. Please
join me in congratulating our entire province for their support of this great
initiative. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Southeast.
Brittney Senger: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I rise to recognize May as Sexual Violence
Prevention Month.
Sexual violence is a serious and
pervasive issue in Saskatchewan. Our province has the highest rate of
gender-based violence and interpersonal violence in Canada. It rates more than
double the national average. We have the second-highest rate of sexual violence
in the country and the third-highest rate of human trafficking.
These alarming statistics underscore the
urgent need for action. Age-appropriate sexual-assault and abuse-prevention
education is critical to preventing, identifying, and reporting sexual
violence. By fostering awareness and equipping individuals with knowledge, we
can work toward meaningful change and reduce these devastating numbers.
I stand with survivors and support the
imperative work of organizations like Sexual Assault Services of Saskatchewan
who provide healing, education, and advocacy. Ending sexual violence starts
with honouring survivors’ strength and courage. Everyone in Saskatchewan
deserves to live free from violence. This month is a vital opportunity to
listen to survivors, learn from their experiences, and commit to action today
and every day. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Prince Albert Carlton.
Kevin Kasun: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. Our Saskatchewan demonstrated remarkable economic growth in 2024,
achieving the second-highest growth rate in Canada. Our province’s growth rate
has more than doubled the national average, thus highlighting Saskatchewan’s
strong economic performance. Statistics Canada reports Saskatchewan’s real GDP
[gross domestic product] growth rose by 3.4 per cent, significantly surpassing
the national average of only 1.6 per cent.
Mr. Speaker, this growth was largely
driven by substantial 13.2 per cent increase in the construction industry. In
March 2025 our job growth saw significant gains with an increase of 19,800 new
jobs, bringing the total number of employed people in Saskatchewan to 606,300.
Saskatchewan had the third-lowest unemployment rate amongst the provinces at
4.9 per cent, well below the national average of 6.7 per cent.
This government is committed to
maintaining this momentum and creating an environment that encourages
investment and job creation in this province. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — Sorry, just a quick statement before
question period and later on 75‑minute debate. Just a quick
. . . We’re all . . .
An
Hon. Member: — Leave granted.
Speaker
Goudy: — Thank you for that. We all have
privilege in this Assembly to debate issues freely. In doing so, let me ask us
all to remember that we shouldn’t be using provocative and inflammatory
language and make a conscious effort to refrain from intemperate and personal
attacks.
In general I believe that we should
attempt to afford the general public, our staff, and other government leaders
the same courtesies we extend to ourselves here in this Chamber of not
impugning bad motives or motives different than those acknowledged by a member
in this Chamber.
So
thank you very much. And I look forward to question period.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the Leader of the
Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Speaker, I’m a
proud Canadian, and Canada will never be the 51st state. Saskatchewan is an
incredibly important part of this country. Mr. Speaker, that should never
change. Today I say clearly to those who seek to divide and break our country
that they’re wrong. And I tell those who are in positions of power, who are
stoking the flames of separatism that they should be ashamed of themselves.
With all of that in mind, Mr. Speaker,
to the Premier I ask this: will he stand in this House today and condemn all of
those who are using their positions of influence to break up this beautiful
country?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Well, Mr. Speaker,
I would say all of the suggestions, conversation around separation on the floor
of this Assembly is coming from the members opposite. Mr. Speaker, there is
this straw man argument really that is being put forward that it’s either the status
quo or separation.
Well the Government of Saskatchewan is
not interested in separation, and the Government of Saskatchewan certainly
isn’t interested in the status quo either, Mr. Speaker, status quo where our
province is being treated unfairly by a federal government for close to a
decade now, supported every step of the way by the NDP [New Democratic Party].
And what we saw, we saw in this most recent federal election was 65 per cent of
Saskatchewan people didn’t vote for that status quo either, Mr. Speaker.
But it is not a straw man argument where
it’s status quo or separation. We don’t like either of those. We think there is
an opportunity, Mr. Speaker, and we truly believe and always have believed —
right to the founding principles of this party — that there is an opportunity
for Saskatchewan to continue to grow and prosper in its economy, to grow its
population, grow our communities, reinvest back into those communities, all
within a strong, united nation of Canada.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Speaker, I do
not support this status quo, but I cannot support so-called leaders who can’t
find the courage to condemn those who are trying to break up our country. The
Premier can’t do it. He’d rather play politics and pander to his base, pander to
separatist sentiments. Mr. Speaker, that is shameful. And it’s shameful that
Danielle Smith’s friends in Alberta are currently gathering signatures on a
referendum to break up our country.
[10:30]
Mr. Speaker, that is wrong, it’s
serious, and it’s something that should be shot down clearly and immediately.
It’s bad for jobs, it’s bad for investment, and it is bad for the future. Will
the Premier tell the people of this province today clearly, will he clearly
tell people in this province that he will never initiate a vote on Saskatchewan
leaving Canada?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — [Inaudible] . . .
referendums, plebiscites. They’re there for people to have a voice, Mr.
Speaker. I think what the Leader of the Opposition may be referring to is
Alberta people are gathering signatures, Mr. Speaker, to have their voice
heard. I don’t know what that number is or who is even doing it, but I can
assure you that it’s not the Government of Alberta doing it.
Nor is it the government of anywhere
when people are coming together to have their voice heard, of which the NDP is
now committed to shutting down, shutting down the voices that people have
through legislative ability, Mr. Speaker, through legislative ability. And in
fact, in Saskatchewan, our plebiscite legislation was last changed in 1996
under an NDP government. That legislation is there for a reason, for the people
of this province to have a voice, Mr. Speaker, that voice that the NDP would
take away.
But again I say, Mr. Speaker, it is the
position of the government that this is not a two-option argument. It is not
the status quo or separation. Policies matter so very much. Saskatchewan today
has over double the national rate of GDP growth in this province due to policy
decisions that have been made by this government, not just this year, but over
the last decade and a half. Policies matter, Mr. Speaker, and this is a
government that is always going to provide the people of Saskatchewan with a
voice at election time or any time they choose.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Speaker, this
is not about the status quo. This is about showing some courage and some
leadership to stand up against separatists, but that Premier is failing. He’s
failing to stand up to Danielle Smith, who wants to tear the country apart.
He’s also failing to address the
cost-of-living challenge that Saskatchewan people are facing today. Yesterday
the child advocate tabled a report in this Assembly. In that report the issue
of parents who called her office because they couldn’t afford, Mr. Speaker, to
feed their kids, she reported that has doubled in the last year. In a province
as rich as this, in the breadbasket of the world, this simply cannot stand.
How does the Premier defend the fact
that the Children’s Advocate says that the issue of parents who can’t afford to
feed their kids has doubled in our province?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — When it comes to
the Children’s Advocate’s recommendations, or any other independent officers,
Mr. Speaker, government is always looking at those recommendations closely,
most certainly, and making every attempt to achieve positive outcomes with
respect to those recommendations.
Policies do matter, Mr. Speaker, which
is why we ran the last provincial election on a policy of continuing to have
Saskatchewan as the most . . .
[Interjections]
Speaker
Goudy: — I’m going to ask both sides to
listen to the questions and the answers.
Mr. Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Speaker,
policies do matter, with respect to Saskatchewan continuing to be the most
affordable place in the nation to live. And we ran on a platform of ensuring
that is the case, not just this year but years into the future.
Yes, us in this province, families, are
experiencing cost-of-living pressures, like they are across Canada. But we do
see all too often, Mr. Speaker, comments that come to the floor of this
Assembly that just are incorrect. It wasn’t long ago we saw the opposition say,
well food inflation is at its highest rate in 50 years. That simply isn’t true.
It is across Canada, Mr. Speaker, but not in Saskatchewan.
And today what we see is the economic
growth rate in the province is over double the national average. In fact it’s
about half actually of what the NDP got in the most recent federal election in
this province, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Speaker, I
want to point out that the Minister for Trade and Export Development, when
faced with the reality that people can’t feed their kids in this province,
says, well we won.
Mr. Speaker, he needs to understand that
people in this province have the highest level of economic anxiety in the
country and the Children’s Advocate is raising the alarm about parents who
cannot afford to feed their kids. Yet they stand up day after day and
congratulate themselves and tell us everything is just fine. Mr. Speaker, the
reality is they have no plan to offer any cost-of-living relief and they block
affordability measures time after time.
Does the Premier acknowledge that we
have a problem? And what exactly is he going to do to ensure that next year no
parent in this province has to reach out for help because they can’t feed their
children?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — The most recent
balanced budget that was introduced and passed on the floor of this Assembly,
Mr. Speaker, had many cost-of-living initiatives in it, initiatives that the
Saskatchewan Party campaigned on in the most recent election and the
Saskatchewan Party government delivered on in this budget. Which is unlike
other NDP governments across the nation that backtracked on their campaign
promises to the people that elected them, Mr. Speaker, in the name of President
Trump’s tariffs.
But what we saw in this last budget was
tax incentives, Mr. Speaker, that are not only going to help families, they’re
going to help first-time homebuyers. They’re going to help students. They’re
going to help seniors. There are tax incentives in this particular balanced
budget, Mr. Speaker, that are going to benefit each and every person in the
province of Saskatchewan.
What we’re seeing today — if I can come
back to the fact that policies matter, Mr. Speaker — when we look at the rise
in inflationary pressures that families are feeling, policies do matter.
Policies and decisions have been made at the federal level, endorsed by and
voted for by the NDP every step of the way the last four years. Those policies
are causing inflationary pressures across the nation. Thankfully Saskatchewan
is lower than the national average. And in economic growth we’re double the
national average, Mr. Speaker. And our growth rate is half the entirety of the
NDP’s support in this province in the last federal election.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Rochdale.
Joan Pratchler: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. Absolutely policies matter. But what matters more is kindness. Mr.
Speaker, there’s no excuse for children going hungry.
Saskatchewan, yes, it is a rich
province, and we have an abundance of wealth and talented people. And no one
should have to struggle to put food on the table for their children. But under
the Sask Party’s watch, the issue of parents calling
the Children’s Advocate for help has doubled. This is shameful, it’s sad, and
above all, it’s just simply heartbreaking.
What does the minister say to those moms
and dads and grandmas and grandpas all over our province who don’t know if
they’ll be able to afford groceries or rent at the end of the month?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Finance.
Hon. Jim
Reiter: —
Mr. Speaker, we recognize the inflationary pressures and the problems that
those cause for families in Saskatchewan. That’s why we made affordability one
of the forefront measures in the most recent budget, in fact the only balanced
budget in the country, Mr. Speaker.
The Premier talked about some of these
in the previous answer, Mr. Speaker. One of the standout parts of the budget, I
believe, is the changes to income tax. There’s no better way to make life more
affordable for people than letting them keep more of their own money, Mr.
Speaker.
As far as the lower income people, Mr.
Speaker, since we’ve been given the privilege of forming government in 2007,
we’ve dropped many low-income people off the tax rolls that were previously
paying income tax. When all the changes in the budget are implemented, this
year 166,000 less people will be paying income tax in Saskatchewan than when we
formed government in 2007. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Rochdale.
Joan Pratchler: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. I don’t think some of those families can wait until that all happens.
I’ll take the word of the independent
Children’s Advocate every day of the week. Here’s what she said in her report:
“There is no question that the failure to meet children and youth’s basic needs
have compromised their well-being and fundamental human rights to live to their
full potential.”
How can the Sask
Party, after almost two decades in power, defend this record of failing our
children?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Finance.
Hon. Jim
Reiter: —
Mr. Speaker, again we absolutely recognize inflationary pressures and the
impact they have on all the citizens of Saskatchewan. That’s why a number of
measures . . . I talked about income tax but a number of measures
we’ve taken for a long time now.
There’s been no carbon tax charged on
home heating, and most recently, the only carbon tax-free jurisdiction in the
country, Mr. Speaker. That lets people keep more of their own money in their
own pockets. We think that’s important because people know best what to do with
their own money, Mr. Speaker.
So many of these inflationary pressures . . .
When you talk about policies matter, they absolutely do. Policies of the
federal government have driven so many of these inflationary pressures, Mr.
Speaker, those policies, which were derived from the federal government and
supported by the NDP every step of the way.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon
Churchill-Wildwood.
Keith Jorgenson:
— Mr. Speaker, Vladimir Putin’s illegal war rages on. Yesterday alone, Russia
conducted more than 100 drone strikes on innocent Ukrainians. Since the war
began, almost 10,000 displaced Ukrainians have come here to Saskatchewan to
seek shelter from this horrible war.
And I would agree with the members
opposite that policies do matter. With that in mind, I regret to inform this
House that effective today, this government’s policy was to cut funding to
critical services provided to displaced Ukrainians. Mr. Speaker, it is cold and
it is callous.
Why would the government cut funding for
victims of war who fled to Saskatchewan for safety?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Finance.
Hon. Jim
Reiter: —
Mr. Speaker, this government has cut no support for the Ukrainian refugees.
This government has a track record of incredible support for the Ukrainian
refugees. Mr. Speaker, any of the cuts the member opposite is referring to must
be federal. But again we stand on our record. We have given incredible support
to our friends in Ukraine and the refugees that are welcome guests in
Saskatchewan.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon
Churchill-Wildwood.
Keith
Jorgenson: —
Mr. Speaker, I’m a bit surprised. This government cut funding to the Ukrainian
Canadian Congress’s settlement support program. Six staff members of UCC [Ukrainian Canadian Congress] were laid off. The
Premier claims to stand with Ukraine but his actions indicate he’s doing
anything but that.
In March the Premier committed to
opening Saskatchewan for more Ukrainian refugees should they continue to come
from this illegal Russian invasion. But today that funding provided to the
Ukrainian Canadian Congress, which provides unique support and settlement
services, has been cut.
Can the government explain where these
displaced Ukrainian people living in Saskatchewan are supposed to turn for
assistance now?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Finance.
Hon. Jim
Reiter: —
My goodness, Mr. Speaker. Why didn’t the member indicate that in the first
question? What he’s talking about is ridiculous. This government has put
immense supports in for our friends from Ukraine who’ve been affected by this
tragic war, Mr. Speaker, the refugees here.
The cuts, as he calls them that, it was
a program in place, Mr. Speaker, because there was an influx of Ukrainian
refugees. That has dwindled in recent days because of changes by the federal
government. All those supports that our friends from Ukraine need will be in
place. We’re happy to help. We’ll continue to help, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon
Churchill-Wildwood.
Keith
Jorgenson: —
Mr. Speaker, it gets even worse. When there is a death of a displaced Ukrainian
person living here in Saskatchewan, the UCC works
around the clock to notify the next of kin and provide them with their deceased
loved one’s belongings and ashes.
Mr. Speaker, I know this because I had
an employee, a Ukrainian employee, that got cancer, and the UCC
helped her and her family through an absolutely impossible time when she was
critically ill. This funding cut is horrific on so many levels, Mr. Speaker.
Will the Sask
Party immediately reverse these cuts today and actually stand with the people
of Ukraine?
[10:45]
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Parks, Culture and Sport.
Hon. Alana
Ross: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In 2024‑25 our province invested nearly
$13 million in settlement supports. This funding is provided through
settlement agencies located across the province, including direct funding to
the Ukrainian Canadian Congress.
Other supports we’ve had the privilege
of providing include partnering with Ukrainian Canadian Congress of Saskatchewan
and providing $350,000 in funding to support the successful resettlement of
Ukrainian refugees in our province; $100,000 to support humanitarian efforts in
Ukraine; amendments to allow for health coverage for Ukrainian refugees;
displaced Ukrainians can apply for Saskatchewan income support programs or the
Saskatchewan assured income for disability program; expanded the child basic
benefit to eligible Ukrainian families; and made changes to allow Ukrainian
refugees to exchange their passenger vehicle licence for a Saskatchewan
driver’s licence.
We have done much to support the
Ukrainian families who have unfortunately made their way to Canada. Thank you,
Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina South Albert.
Aleana Young: — Thank you very
much, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the minister detailing last year’s support in
the budget. But right now, today, let’s talk about another group of people
being failed by this government: post-secondary students, our future leaders.
Students already report massive amounts
of financial insecurity, and yesterday we learned that the Sask
Party funding cuts have led to a massive tuition increase at the University of
Regina.
Can the minister explain why he’s
choosing to punish Saskatchewan students already drowning in debt?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Energy and Resources.
Hon. Colleen
Young: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As we all know, universities are autonomous
institutions and set their own tuition and fee rates which reflect their costs
of delivering sustainable quality programs. Saskatchewan’s domestic graduates
and international student tuition rates remain among the lowest in the country.
And as part of the ’25‑26 budget, a permanent increase of
$12 million, adding a one-time increase of 6 million to help
post-secondary institutions manage increasing costs and support financial
stability.
But even more than that, Mr. Speaker, is
our government extended the multi-year funding agreement for an additional
year. And in that agreement the MOU [memorandum of understanding] stipulates
tuition increases are capped at 4 per cent maximum per academic year.
To ensure we are helping our
post-secondary students we continue to invest in financial supports to empower
students to participate in and complete post-secondary education. And this year
our government is providing more than 113.4 million to direct supports.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina South Albert.
Aleana Young: — Thank you very
much, Mr. Speaker. Well I guess everything’s fine then and the government is
just happy to pass the buck to universities and pass the buck to students who
again are drowning under a mountain of debt. These are students. This is our
future workforce, Mr. Speaker.
We have so much opportunity here in
Saskatchewan. But we have a government that isn’t supporting their education
and is actively cutting funding to their schools — tuition hikes at the U of R
[University of Regina], tuition hikes at the U of S [University of
Saskatchewan], staffing cuts at Sask Poly. When will
this government stop putting the hammer to post-secondary students,
post-secondary institutions, something that is so important to the future of
Saskatchewan?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Energy and Resources.
Hon. Colleen
Young: —
Mr. Speaker, this year’s budget will provide 577 million in operating
funding to support our post-secondary education institutions and, as I
mentioned, as part of that budget a permanent increase of 12 million —
that’s a 2.2 per cent increase — adding a one-time increase of 6 million
to help post-secondary institutions manage increasing costs.
Part of the MOU and the agreement that
was put in place stipulates tuition increases are capped at 4 per cent max per
academic year. And the MOU helped support long-term financial sustainability
and ensured access to quality post-secondary education remains affordable to
students.
Since 2008‑09 our government has
invested 880.65 million in infrastructure funding at post-secondary
institutions, and the opposition never once mentioned post-secondary
institution funding in their platform.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Cumberland.
Jordan McPhail: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. Mr. Speaker, health care in northern Saskatchewan is an absolute
disaster under that minister. Instead of staffing up and training local First
Nations and Métis people to work in health care, the Sask
Party is sending webcams and travel nurses. It is a slap in the face to the
patients and the people of northern Saskatchewan. When will the Saskatchewan
Party make sure that the people in northern Saskatchewan can get the health
care that they need when and where they need it?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, let’s be very clear about what was
proposed by the opposition this week in this legislature. The opposition
proposed yesterday to ban virtual care for rural and northern communities.
Let’s be very clear about . . .
[Interjections]
Speaker
Goudy: — I would ask for order in the
Chamber, please.
Minister of Health.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It was proposed by the opposition to ban virtual care
for rural and northern communities. That is something we are not going to do.
We are not going to end the virtual physician program. We are not going to
limit options for front-line health care workers and patients in this province,
Mr. Speaker. We’re going to continue to work to provide better access to health
care in this province for people regardless of where they live.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Cumberland.
Jordan McPhail: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. Maybe if that minister asked the northerners how their hospitals are
running rather than how the walleye are running, he would understand the issues
in northern Saskatchewan health systems.
Mr. Speaker, that minister found his
feet to talk about virtual care. That might work in the South, but it sure as
heck doesn’t work in the North. How on earth does this Sask
Party expect northern people to connect into a doctor’s appointment through
Zoom when they can’t even get access to reliable internet?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. You know, it’s interesting. Since the NDP’s motion
yesterday myself and my colleagues have heard from leaders across the province
about not ending virtual care in this province as the opposition proposed on
the floor of this Assembly yesterday. Guess what, Mr. Speaker? We’re not going
to do that.
So here we have an opposition suggesting
what to do that is opposite to what physician leaders in the Saskatchewan
Health Authority say, opposite to what municipal leaders and health care
leaders in this province want so they can provide better access, Mr. Speaker.
We’re not going to do what the opposition wants to do. Thank you.
Speaker Goudy:
— I recognize the member from Regina South Albert.
Aleana Young: — Thank you very
much, Mr. Speaker. It’s my pleasure to be on my feet for what is my favourite
part of every week, the 75‑minute debate. And what a topic we have before
us here, Mr. Speaker.
But before I dive into the meat of this
motion, I thought I would get a few things out of the way. Now, Mr. Speaker, we
hear time and time and time again from members opposite some things that are
inconsistent with the public record and indeed the record in this House. So I
want to make sure the members opposite — the member from P.A. [Prince Albert]
Carlton, plug in that earpiece — listen up, so that no member opposite is in
danger of misleading the House by misspeaking on something that has already been
clarified.
Now, Mr. Speaker, there is a lot to be
frustrated with in this country. We’re going to talk about a lot of it later,
Mr. Speaker. Bill C‑69, not something supported by either party in this
House. The carbon tax, consumer or industrial, also not supported by any party
in this House. The oil and gas cap, the clean electricity regulations, not
supported by any party in this House. And lest I forget, the methane cap as
well, also something not supported by either party in this House. The tariffs
on canola, not supported by either party in this House.
Mr. Speaker, when it comes to the ills
that impact this province, there’s actually a great deal of unity on decisions
that have been unilaterally implemented by the last federal government on this
province. So there is great cause for dissatisfaction. And I’m glad, Mr.
Speaker, and thankful to members on both sides that I was able to speak to that
on the floor, make sure once again that it’s on the record so members opposite
aren’t confused and potentially misspeak about the views and values and positions
of the official . . .
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — As I was taking my position at the
Chair, the term “mislead” was used, and now “misspoke.” That is not appropriate
language to be using. It is not the intent of anybody in this Chamber to
mislead, so please refrain from using those words, please.
Aleana Young: — Absolutely, Mr.
Speaker. I hear you loud and clear. I’d hate for anybody accidently to do
anything ever in this House. Because all is not calm on the western front. I
think that much is clear, Mr. Speaker.
But you know, I’m an adopted westerner,
Mr. Speaker, as members opposite like to remind me. I didn’t have the privilege
of being born in Western Canada, Mr. Speaker. I was born out east. I moved here
after meeting a very, very handsome, kind, wonderful, hard-working man from
Saskatchewan and chose to make this my home, have my children here, start a
business, raise my family, and serve this province. And I’m grateful for that,
Mr. Speaker. And I’m grateful for everything that this province provides, not
just for those of us who live here but to this country.
But, Mr. Speaker, I do feel that sense
of alienation from Ottawa, which is incidentally my hometown. I do feel it, Mr.
Speaker, and I appreciate that. But for all of the frustrations that I have
felt as a Western Canadian, it doesn’t make me hate my country, Mr. Speaker. It
doesn’t make me hate my fellow countrymen, doesn’t make me want to break up or
destroy this beautiful project, this beautiful country that we have here —
Canada.
And yet we have actors right now who are
trying to do that, Mr. Speaker. President Trump south of the border has been
quite clear and quite vocal in his interest in destroying the Canada as we know
it, Mr. Speaker. And we’ve had some frustrations on this side of the House.
We’ve been quite clear with what we have seen as a weak answer from members
opposite, from this Premier when it’s come to facing those threats, which
started with the Premier talking about a Team North America approach.
Yes, the United States is our biggest
trading partner. But, Mr. Speaker, there can be no Team North America approach
with a president who wants us to become a state. We’re a sovereign nation.
There can be no Team North America approach.
This government, we felt, has been
carrying water for President Trump, a government who said we should take him
seriously but we can’t take him literally, Mr. Speaker. And yet time and time
again we see the president south of the border being quite clear in his
language, his unique language and way of speaking, that his intent is to make
Canada the 51st state in some sick, twisted, kind of 21st-century,
manifest-destiny spheres of influence.
[11:00]
And meanwhile we’ve seen this Premier
and this government go arm in arm with Preston Manning, a former leader in this
country. And you know, Preston Manning in speaking about this country recently
— I’ll quote from the National Post two days ago, Mr. Speaker — he
wrote, “Large numbers of westerners simply will not stand for another four
years of Liberal government, no matter who leads it.” He goes on that if Carney
were to emerge victorious from Monday’s election, “he would then be identified
in the history books tragically and needlessly as the last Prime Minister of a
united Canada.”
This is who the Premier chose to spend
time speaking at his conference. And I remember the Manning Centre conferences,
Mr. Deputy Speaker. They actually used to be about religious pluralism. They
were really interesting, the Manning Centre back in the day, but now it has
really taken a turn to what, I would suggest, is an ugly, divisive rhetoric
focused on breaking up Canada. Because again, Mr. Speaker, I have not liked
every government or every prime minister who has served this country, but I
respect my country and I respect my fellow countrymen. And I’m not interested,
Mr. Speaker; we’re not interested in breaking it up.
And now to the west of us, we see
Danielle Smith, Premier Smith sabre-rattling — it’s far from subtle, Mr.
Speaker — about western separatism and holding a referendum. Her government is
actually currently introducing legislation to make it easier for citizens in
that province to come forward and have a referendum focused on seceding from
Canada. And, Mr. Speaker, again have frustrations with your neighbours; that
doesn’t mean you break up the country.
And let’s just take a brief visit to
some of the things that Premier Smith has done or focused on in her term in
office because I do think it’s relevant, Mr. Speaker. Because we’ve seen this
Premier follow Premier Smith time and time again.
We’ve seen it with the Alberta revenue
agency, and here we have the Saskatchewan revenue agency still being pursued by
this government in this budget. We saw it with the Alberta sheriffs, now
modelled with the Saskatchewan marshals force. We saw it with the Alberta
sovereignty Act and The Saskatchewan First Act. I suppose we also saw it
almost in the inverse here with Bill 137 punching down at vulnerable trans
children in Saskatchewan, now being modelled by Premier Smith in Alberta.
There is a lot of commonalities between
these two leaders in Premier Moe and Premier Smith. The same Premier Smith, Mr.
Speaker, who also said that Ukraine was to blame for the invasion by Russia.
She thought they deserved it; they were asking for it. This is on the record,
Mr. Speaker. She’s been quite clear.
This is the same premier who blamed
cancer patients for getting cancer, who interfered in a criminal investigation,
falsely claimed to have Indigenous heritage. I don’t really want to get into
the whole Lake of Fire debacle, but that was something. She said she wasn’t
going to cross the floor; then she crossed the floor. She spent
$80 million on children’s painkillers that came too late and couldn’t be
sold, talked about feeding tainted meat to the homeless, and spreads World
Economic Forum conspiracy theories. And you know, is in lockstep with folks
like Ron DeSantis and Kristi Noem, her heroes.
So this is a premier, Mr. Speaker, with
whom we would have a lot of disagreement. And this is a premier, Danielle
Smith, who our Premier here in Saskatchewan has followed.
And you know, recently this week, Mr.
Speaker, Premier Moe has talked about the guiding principles of the
Saskatchewan Party, the founding principles of this party. I’d submit, Mr.
Deputy Speaker, that this party as it exists today is very, very different from
those founding principles outlined in that document, Mr. Speaker. This is a
government that has spent their political capital and their legislative agenda
on some wild things, Mr. Speaker — Bill 137 to start with.
This is a premier who on the last
election night chose to speak not to his province as a whole but to the Buffalo
Party voters. The same Buffalo Party which in Alberta, just next door, has
rebranded themselves as the Republican Party. The same Buffalo Party that just
this year held a separatist conference here in Regina. This is a Saskatchewan
Party government that spent taxpayer dollars funding a tour by the late MLA
Lyle Stewart and Allan Kerpan, a known Wexiteer and separatist — former MP, former MLA — touring
the province stirring up separatist talk.
This is a premier who couldn’t say no to
folks who were concerned about chemtrails, and this is a premier who has left
the door open to seceding from Canada — left the door open. It shouldn’t be
that hard just to say no. An important thing for any politician to do, Mr.
Deputy Speaker, is to say no, and I appreciate it’s a lot harder to say no to
people you disagree with than it is to say no to your friends. But I’d submit
that’s an important, if not necessary, skill.
And this is a government, Mr. Deputy
Speaker, that is now claiming that they’re focused on what matters to
Saskatchewan people, that they spent the last election campaigning on
affordability. Well frankly, Mr. Speaker, every person in this province knows
what the Premier said his first priority would be coming out of the election.
Every person in the province knows that
that Premier did not campaign on affordability, on health care, on crime —
priorities that matter to Saskatchewan people. This is what we should be
focused on. We shouldn’t be having to have a debate on western separatism, on
how closely we’re going to be holding hands with Premier Smith. Because this is
not just objectionable, Mr. Deputy Speaker; this is bad for the province and
it’s bad for the economy.
And let’s not forget — because I’ll
admit, Mr. Speaker, any opportunity I have to reread this quote into the
legislature, I am going to take it — what emerged from that summer succession
tour, Mr. Deputy Speaker, but Drawing the Line: Defending Saskatchewan’s
Economic Autonomy, a document that was called, by Alberta economist Trevor Tombe, “insane and completely uncredible.”
It’s a new low in political communications in Canada. It is
doubtful that any government in the history of confederation — federal,
provincial, or municipal — has published something so badly written.
He
goes on, “The text is not so much spoiled by errors as composed of them, and
the run-on sentences meander more than the South Saskatchewan River.”
Mr.
Speaker, this is what that government gets up to when they’re left to their own
devices. Separation is bad for this economy, Mr. Speaker, because there’s three
things that industry and investment hate — uncertainty, uncertainty,
uncertainty. And what they can be sure on is that on this side of the House
we’re certain about our role in a united Canada.
So
with that, Mr. Speaker, I am going to move that:
The Assembly opposes Donald Trump’s threats to make Canada
the 51st state and also opposes the threats of western separation supported by
Alberta Premier Danielle Smith and others.
Mr.
Speaker, it is my pleasure to move this motion and I look forward to the debate
today. Thank you.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Dakota-Arm River.
Barret Kropf: — Thank you,
Mr. Deputy Speaker. It’s a privilege to be on my feet today for the 75‑
minute debate. It’s no secret, Mr. Speaker, that prior to being elected to this
seat by the great folks of Dakota-Arm River, that my coaching career unfolded
at hockey arenas, sometimes in front of tiny crowds of less than 100 people and
at other times in front of thousands. Sometimes those games I coached at were
in small communities in Saskatchewan, while other times they are in far-flung
nations such as Kazakhstan, Estonia, or in the Czech Republic.
But the very best moment of every game, Mr.
Speaker, without question, the absolute best part of every game played here in
Canada or abroad was the players come storming out onto the ice at the start of
the game. The crowd cheers, the players do a quick hot lap around the ice, and
then Canadian pride takes over. The crowd gets on their feet, the players come
to a stop at the blue line, and as the players rock back and forth in
anticipation for the greatest moment in sports, Mr. Speaker, I too find myself
rocking back and forth.
And we all find that we turn our face to the
flag and the music begins as “O Canada” blares out. I can’t sing very well, Mr.
Speaker. I’m actually terrible. But let me tell you I sing the Canadian
national anthem on the bench so loud because it’s the nation that my
forefathers came to for freedom and opportunity. And I will never be ashamed of
such an incredible flag or song.
Mr. Speaker, maybe it’s from coaching for so
many years, I’m not sure, but I have garnered the ability to block out the white
noise around me during those games. I don’t hear the yelling of fans or the
blaring of music. I just get myself into the zone as the coach.
Now my wife would say it’s not just during the
games that I can’t hear the noise around me, but that’s another discussion for
another time. The point is, Mr. Speaker, when it comes time to perform, myself
as a coach or my athletes, we find ourselves in the zone. We do not get distracted by side noise,
background noise, or opponents chirping or panicking. We just block it out
because of the consistent, steady game planning that we get into the zone.
Mr.
Speaker, I would suggest that our government is in the zone. We are dialed in. Our leadership, from Premier Moe through the
Finance minister and all of our cabinet ministers and colleagues, we are dialed in. Because Saskatchewan has what the world needs,
Mr. Speaker — food, fuel, fertilizer, forestry, and so much more. And as such,
we don’t get annoyed by the US making comments or by pundits suggesting that we
will lose Canada or become the 51st state. In fact, Mr. Speaker, I would
suggest through our strong, steady leadership and vision, that it’s
Saskatchewan that’s actually holding this nation together, not being torn apart
as this opposition continues to suggest.
Last
week I had the opportunity to meet the High Commissioner from Sri Lanka, the
High Commissioner from Pakistan, and the ambassador from Ecuador. They spent
the day here at the legislature, and I had the chance to enjoy a few meals with
them, hear their stories, hear their challenges, and we encouraged each other
to keep being leaders. As we were enjoying some of the finest cuts of
Saskatchewan beef, I asked the three of them, why have you come to
Saskatchewan? Why did you land here in Regina and not other parts of Canada?
And without hesitation they said two reasons: number one, because you have what
our country needs, and number two, your province is financially stable.
So,
Mr. Speaker, because our government has been laser-focused on developing trade
offices around the globe and fostering relationships to deliver to the world
more of what they need, these markets can be enjoying what farmers in our
province produce. Mr. Speaker, every day 275 million people eat chickpea
curry for breakfast in the nations of Sri Lanka and Pakistan — 275 million
daily breakfasts. That’s incredible news. That’s an example of our government
not panicking over one election cycle down south, but rather it’s 18 years of
consistent, steady growth of our exports to the world.
But
let’s bring things home and give you an example of a story right here in
Saskatchewan. Some of our pushbacks against US tariff measures was to make sure
that we had procurement right here from Canada and where we could, procurement
from Saskatchewan. In combination with that, one of our tariff pushbacks was to
stop buying alcohol from the USA [United States of America].
So,
Mr. Speaker, I have an incredible success story to share with you, and it
covers all three of these tariff measures that we have taken: (1) it fills the
void left by stopping US alcohol purchases, (2) it brings procurement to
Canada, and (3) it brings procurement here to Saskatchewan. And actually, Mr.
Speaker, the fourth one that ran into it is a story of job creation here in
Saskatchewan.
Let
me introduce to you Mr. Barry and Kathy Williams, owners of So So Beverages right here in Saskatchewan. They own and
operate establishments in Asquith and Aylesbury, and they are the creative
geniuses behind Bigfoot Vodka. You’ve likely heard their creative advertising
on the radio or seen their fantastic marketing campaigns across the province.
Mr.
Speaker, they purchase their natural grain spirits from the community of Unity
and the farmers that are nearby, creating great-paying rural jobs in their
community. And they distill the grains in the
community of Asquith, again creating more rural jobs.
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Their
sales have become monstrous. They have in their first year cracked
$1 million sales, then in their second year, $3 million in sales. And
this year, Mr. Speaker, in 2025, they are projecting sales to be north of
$5 million just here in Saskatchewan. They have 600 locations that they
distribute to in Saskatchewan, and all those clients want product certainty.
So
So Beverages wants local partnerships. And they’ve
made a long-term commitment to our province because of things like our 1 per
cent sales tax rate and, more importantly, Mr. Speaker, as Barry Williams told
me, they love the collaboration that happens in the Saskatchewan business
community. So much so, Mr. Speaker, that they have now gone national and are
going to throw a lifeline to actually Manitoba and Alberta to help keep
businesses alive there by getting some of their bottling done to meet the need that
the growing business has to distribute across Canada — a Saskatchewan company
committed to the province and throwing lifelines around the country because of
their vision to grow a Saskatchewan-born-and-raised company with strength of
operations and being a rural job-creation machine.
If
you need more proof, Mr. Speaker, of our Saskatchewan government’s commitment
to being a leader in the nation, I’d ask you to look no further than the
inflationary, job-killing carbon tax that’s crippled our nation for the better
part of the last decade.
It
was at the genesis of that NDP-supported carbon tax where the then Sask Environment minister from Shellbrook stood up for
Canada and stood up when nobody else would. He stood up with the courage of
Saskatchewan, he stood up to defend the nation of Canada, and he walked out of
that railroading session where the tax was announced.
Thirty
days ago, Mr. Speaker, this non-stop, steady, sturdy, strong voice of
leadership from our Saskatchewan government planted our flag once again, and we
became the first province in Canada to be completely carbon tax free.
So,
Mr. Speaker, there’s no question where our loyalty as a government sits. We are
proudly Canadian, and we will lead with great courage to assure that
Saskatchewan remains the hope and opportunity for everyone around the world.
Later
tonight, Mr. Speaker, I’m going to get the opportunity to travel to Chicago to
attend a Midwest legislators’ conference and it will provide me with the
opportunity to continue building partnerships with US elected officials, just
like so many of my other ministers here and colleagues have been able to travel
and shore up relationships down in the States, making sure that everyone south
of us understands how tightly woven together our economies are and how damaging
their tariffs could be.
Our
ministers have also gone abroad, solidifying existing trade partnerships, and
to explore new trade partnerships around the world. Because this government is
committed to remaining a vital part of the world economy with our food, fuel,
and fertilizer using our resources to create a strong economy that allows us to
be a leader that Canada needs us to be.
We
have had today in the Chamber the CEO [chief executive officer] for PNWER here with us today, who highlighted the fact that it
was the work of our Premier and our ministers who successfully lobbied US
elected officials to understand how integrated our economies are and help bring
successful conclusion to those needs.
How
successful has Saskatchewan been, Mr. Speaker? Well numbers don’t lie. This
morning, StatsCan released the GDP numbers for Canada and while Canada’s GDP
growth is 1.6 per cent, it was Saskatchewan with a growth rate of 3.4 per cent.
To
that, Mr. Speaker, I say let the anthem ring from coast to coast to coast, and
sing it loud and proud for all the world to hear. We are Saskatchewan proud.
God bless Canada, our home and native land.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from Regina
Northeast.
Jacqueline Roy: — Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. It is my
great privilege and honour to enter into this debate. I think the member from
South Albert did a great job of clarifying — right off the start so we didn’t
get muddled in anything — what we agree with on both sides of the House when it
comes to the economy. So I will not be distracted by the red herrings thrown by
the other side, trying to get us off track in this debate.
Let’s
get back to what the motion is about:
That the Assembly opposes Donald Trump’s threats to make
Canada the 51st state, and also opposes the threats of western separation
supported by Alberta Premier Danielle Smith and others.
Let’s
get back to the question. Mr. Deputy Speaker, those who seek to divide and
break up the country are absolutely wrong. It is our duty as elected officials
to make things work. Governments disagree on policy issues all the time. They
have throughout the great history of this province and this country, and they
will continue to do so. And, Mr. Speaker, quite frankly that is sort of the
spirit and intent of the Western parliamentary system, is to have that debate,
is to have that disagreement. But every time somebody doesn’t like an election,
they can’t just carve up the country and disagree. They can’t just yell, “I’m
taking my ball home and I don’t want to have any more of this whatsoever.”
Mr.
Deputy Speaker, it’s really, really hard to get an audience from the Premier,
and I understand why. He is a busy man, for sure. But the issues that I see
here in my community, in my constituency, in Regina — houselessness, people
that are in constant pain that can’t talk to the Premier about surgeries, kids
that have no support — yet we see the Premier spending his time to get an
audience with separatists on the weekend and with Preston Manning. That has
lasting repercussions, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
The
decisions that we make as politicians about who is deserving of our time and
when they are deserving of our time, and why we go visit people — those have
lasting repercussions. They have lasting repercussions. We’re busy people.
There’s people suffering here in our province that need our attention, and yet
visiting western separatist people . . . There’s a perhaps better use
of our time.
What
do I see, Mr. Deputy Speaker, what do I see across my riding and across this
great province, is a renewed sense, a renewed sense of pride in Canada. And the
decisions once again that we make as politicians as to who gets an audience
with us matters. Where we place our priorities matters. Certain places where we
put our priorities means that it’s bad for jobs, bad for investment, bad for
the economy, bad for the future, and bad for trade here in Saskatchewan.
Not
only that, Mr. Speaker, but it’s our job as elected officials, it’s our job as
a government to make people not only feel a sense of pride but feel a sense of
being at home and feel a sense that they are okay. And right now when I speak
to people in my riding, they’re not feeling okay. They’re not feeling okay at
all. And why is that? They are not seeing a strong enough condemnation of
Donald Trump by this Sask Party government.
Mr.
Speaker, negotiating from a position of silence and avoidance, the
I’ll-take-my-ball-and-go-home approach is not what we are called to do as
politicians, is not what we are called to do as elected officials. And this
politician, for one, has had it. Because this government is trying to keep the
extreme right in the tent at the expense of the economic health of this
province and the mental health of the residents of this province, who need
their leaders to stand up.
I
respect all my colleagues in this House, Mr. Speaker, and I respect many of the
sentiments shared by the member of Dakota-Arm River. But I do have cause for
great concern when we say things like, not panicking over one election down
south. Not panicking over one election down south. Other comments from other
ministers about Chicken Little, implying that the sky is falling and how that’s
not a good thing; we shouldn’t worry. And just today in the House the Premier
said about the federal election, we don’t want separation but we don’t want the
status quo.
Why
does that worry me? Because I’ve been losing sleep at night for the past two
weeks, listening to Danielle Smith’s rhetoric. And it’s this type of “we don’t
want separatism but we don’t want the status quo” rhetoric that deeply troubles
me. The Premier also said that referendums are there for people to use. Well,
Mr. Deputy Speaker, what we know, what we know for a fact is that Danielle
Smith actually changed, without much notice to anybody, the way referendums
work in Alberta.
The
way referendums now work in Alberta is that you only need 10 per cent of the
people to agree to one. You now have 120 days to get there instead of 90, and
you don’t need people from various parts of Alberta, from various areas, from
various ridings to agree to that referendum. That was scrapped entirely. It
could just be 10 per cent of people from one area of the province.
Why
is that deeply concerning? Take Back Alberta founder David Parker said on
Wednesday of this week that his online petition for a referendum on Alberta
sovereignty had collected more than 80,000 signatures in less than 36 hours,
and he expects to hit that magical 200,000 mark by the end of the week. He
actually took pride in throwing it in people’s faces that now he can have a
referendum.
Once
again Danielle Smith has said that she personally supported Alberta staying in
Canada. She wouldn’t stand in the way of a citizen-led referendum, but she’d be
setting up a post-election panel that will give the citizens a chance to put
forward potential referendum questions. She will absolutely get that panel
going. Premier Smith will get on a panel after lowering what it takes to have a
referendum in this province. Shame. Indeed, shame.
So
when the Premier says, “we don’t want separatism but we don’t want the status
quo” two days after a federal election, and then we hear referendums are there
for people to use them, what I am hearing is a dangerous resemblance to the
rhetoric we see coming from Danielle Smith, somebody who wants the police
force, her own police force, to replace the RCMP — my father is a former RCMP
veterans’ committee Chair; doesn’t stand well with me — says she won’t cross
the floor but, you know, then she crosses the floor; calls unvaccinated people
the most discriminated group in her lifetime; falsely claims to have Indigenous
heritage; threatens to sue the CBC [Canadian Broadcasting Corporation] for
publishing her own words; says we need to fundraise for health care; called for
the defunding of a bunch of public schools.
This
is not who people in our province want our Premier to align with. Please, Mr.
Deputy Speaker, all I’m asking is for the Premier to reconsider this for the
good of our entire province. Thank you.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from Martensville-Blairmore.
Hon. Jamie Martens: — Thank you,
Mr. Speaker. I am pleased to stand on my feet today in response to the idea of
becoming the 51st state. Let me respond clearly, without hesitation: we are not
interested in becoming the 51st state no matter who proposes it, even if it’s
the US president. This isn’t about politics and partisanship. It’s about
sovereignty, identity, and pride.
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Canada and every province within it is built on
values we hold dear — universal health care, diplomacy, and a deep respect for
peace and order. We don’t need to trade those values for attention, power, or
proximity to a larger stage. Some may say we’d benefit from the influence of
opportunity, but we already have it on our own terms.
In Saskatchewan we have what the world needs.
Mr. Speaker, we don’t measure our worth by our size or by who we stand next to.
We measure it by how we treat people, how we lead with principle, and how we
stand up together when someone suggests we’re better off being something we’re
not. We’re not here to be absorbed. We’re here to be respected. Canada is not a
side project. It is a nation, a proud one, and we intend to keep it that way.
Mr. Trump, we’d like to say we’d appreciate the
offer, but Canada’s doing just fine as it is, thank you. We’ve got health care,
clean air, good manners, and more canola than we know what to do with. Becoming
the 51st state? Thanks, but we prefer not needing to explain to Congress what
poutine is. We’ll keep the snow, the peace, and our own flag.
And last time I checked, Mr. Speaker, we live
in Saskatchewan, Canada. So why are we being asked to condemn comments from
other provincial leaders, not to mention leaders from other countries? Because
the real issue at hand is, we should be asked that we work with our newly
elected Prime Minister
in making sure that he truly understands what Saskatchewan needs, and comes to
the table ready to build a relationship with Western Canada. You know, Western
Canada, the place where the mountains touch the sky, the prairies never end,
and even the moose have better views than most people. Yeah, it’s just casually
outdoing the rest of the world. It’s no big deal.
I’d
like to invite Mr. Carney to the Canadian Prairies. You know, the provinces of
Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and Alberta — the ones who are often underestimated but
they’re nothing short of incredible.
Then
there’s the people. The prairie folk are known for their grit, their kindness,
their honesty. In small towns and big-hearted cities you’ll find a sense of
community that’s hard to match. The Prairies aren’t flashy and they don’t need
to be. They’re the backbone of Canada. They’re steady, strong, and stunning in
their own way.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, fear is a powerful tool and some
people use it when they run out of facts. Constantly warning that our province
might separate only creates division and anxiety. We’re stronger when we focus
on the real solutions and not stoking panic. Our future shouldn’t be built on
fear. It should be built on unity, respect, and shared vision for progress. We
are for Saskatchewan, not against it. And that just shows in how hard we work
to better the services for our residents every day.
What do threats really mean? Well threats are loud.
They’re designed to rattle us and to provoke fear, to force reactions instead
of reason. But what do threats actually mean? Well often they are weapons of
the weak, not of strength but of desperation. When someone threatens it’s
because they’ve run out of dialogue, out of diplomacy, and out of facts.
Threats are meant to divide, to make us second-guess
our values, and question our unity. But we don’t move forward as a society by
giving in to fear. We move forward by standing firm in what we believe, by
choosing courage over panic,
and by responding with calm, informed strength. Real leadership doesn’t bark
threats; it builds trust. Real citizens don’t crumble under pressure; they rise
with purpose.
Mr.
Deputy Speaker, I like to speak highly of this province and the great people in
it. I like to speak about the positives, the positives that this province has,
which is affordable cost of living, strong job opportunities, quality of life,
education incentives, community and cultural pride, and not to mention an
amazing government, one that sticks up for its citizens time and time again. A
government who truly values what Saskatchewan has to offer, not only on the
world stage but right here at home.
And
you know, Mr. Speaker, it’s the people. That’s our true treasure. I don’t know,
Mr. Speaker, but I’d like to say we’re in a pretty good spot when it comes to
this Premier. He does not falter and stands up to Ottawa, not to mention
negotiations with our trading partner down south. He has continued to educate
and advocate on our behalf, like opening 11 trade offices around this world.
Our Premier has proven how dedicated he is to serving the people of this
province. He has proved, any challenge that stands in our way he deals with it
head on.
This
government will always have the interest of Saskatchewan people first and
foremost. When Saskatchewan people express what they want, we listen. It’s just
as easy as that. And what I know, Mr. Deputy Speaker, is that we will not give
up on Saskatchewan.
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Athabasca.
Leroy
Laliberte: —
Thank you, Deputy Speaker. I rise today and feel deeply privileged to take part
in the 75‑minute debate, Mr. Speaker.
I love our province, Deputy Speaker. I
love our country. I love the people in it. And you know, there’s been so many
discussions based on separation in this province and separation from the
province of Alberta separating, you know, and turning into the 51st state. And
this has been a conversation that people have had throughout the province, and
now people in the North are also having this discussion. And there’s been a lot
of talk about it up in that area, Deputy Speaker.
In Saskatchewan I want to
. . . You know, as the First Nations and Métis relations shadow minister
I felt deeply honoured, deeply privileged to be offered that position, because
I come from a long line of resilient people in my family, and something that
we, you know . . . I’m proud Cree Michif
from northwestern Saskatchewan, from Beauval.
Mr. Speaker, in Saskatchewan there are
74 First Nation communities — great people, very kind. There are six numbered
treaties that I wish to acknowledge here this morning, Mr. Speaker, as I begin
my remarks: treaties 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, and 10.
These treaties, Mr. Speaker, were
negotiated, agreed upon between the First Nations and the Crown. The First
Nations have continued advocating the province and the nation to honour them.
This is something that there was a lot of conversation about. There is no room
for any threats or discussion on western separation without the consultation to
the First Nations and Métis communities.
I’m going to go even further with that
statement, Deputy Speaker, and join my thoughts to express them from the
Indigenous MLAs throughout the West that say that there is no room for any
discussion on western separation without the consent of over 70 First Nations
in the province, and the Métis Nation.
And I want to state first-hand again,
and make this . . . I want to make this statement that the NDP did
not support any idea of Canada becoming the 51st state. This is something we
talked about right from the beginning, Deputy Speaker.
Now I don’t know who Alberta Premier
Danielle Smith is consulting with in the strong Indigenous community of
Alberta, but I can guarantee that this Premier and the government have not
consulted or received consent from any First Nation leadership or any leadership
from the Métis Nation. And I know without a doubt, Deputy Speaker, that the
First Nations and Métis communities would never agree to this idea.
So I challenge the government and
reaffirm the Indigenous community in this province by voting in favour of the
motion being brought forward by the member from Regina South Albert. We
condemned Donald Trump and his actions, threats against Canada, Deputy Speaker.
We have, while the Sask Party supports Donald Trump
and those who donate to him.
You know, there was a lot of debate
based on the American contracts that haven’t been scrapped, for example. This
is something that I’ve seen in here and I was quite a, you know . . .
And we also introduced a buy local day bill that supports local businesses
here. That was our responsibility as MLAs in this province is to support the
people of Saskatchewan, Deputy.
We want to strengthen the economic ties
in Canada and overseas. You know, Donald Trump has been really pushing this
51st state on our province, and yet our Premier won’t condemn that. I also wish
to send a message to US President Trump today in the Chamber, a message that
the Premier and the government won’t bring up, that on this side of the
Assembly we’re not afraid to speak about, Deputy Speaker.
Indigenous peoples have called these
lands since the time immemorial. We have survived these lands for generations,
even in the midst of an attempt to wipe out Indigenous people using colonial
tactics. Indigenous people will now not allow President Trump to dictate his
way into making Canada the 51st state, Deputy Speaker. And there’s no way our
sovereign Indigenous nations will risk the unsteadiness and havoc that the
president is bringing to the neighbours in the south.
Now when we talk about the separation,
like I said, I’m proud to be from this province, a beautiful province. And I’m
also very proud to be Canadian. I have friends right across this country,
Deputy Speaker, people that I’ve worked with, people that I’ve had the
opportunity to consult with for many years. And we had so much conversation
regarding this.
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And you know, it seems pretty surprising
that this government has not delivered Saskatchewan from any protection of the
tariffs, because there’s a lot of businesses that are being affected by this
already, you know. And it’s our responsibility to be able to support them.
I want to talk about separatism. The
Saskatchewan NDP, our side of the Assembly, does not support Saskatchewan or
Alberta separating from Canada, Deputy Speaker. It supports the collaboration
and expansion for pipelines, railroad, power. One of the things that I wanted
to bring up while I was here too, Mr. Deputy Speaker, is that this government
spoke so much about pipelines, but there hasn’t been any consultation with the
Indigenous community. And if they’re separated, how is that going to work? How
is that going to work in this country? It won’t work.
As
this discussion on western separation began, my thoughts immediately went to
the Elders, because a lot of the Elders in my area didn’t understand what that
meant. They stood beside a lot of the people in this province and they fought
battles together. You come up to my home community and you’d see all of the
veterans that fought for this province and fought for this country, alongside a
lot of family members here in the Assembly. And the talk about separating from
this country makes no sense to me.
I wondered what the old ones would be
feeling during a time like this. I also thought about the young people and the
future that they might have. I don’t wish for the Indigenous young people to
live a life of uncertainty, because this is something that we’re seeing right
now, uncertainty. And it’s uncertainty from this government, especially in a
political climate brought forward by the US president and now by the Alberta
premier.
I can with 100 per cent talk about the
certainty that we, as the NDP official opposition, bring to the table. And
that’s for us to work together and make sure that the Saskatchewan residents
are heard. Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker.
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from Kelvington-Wadena.
Chris Beaudry: — Thank you, Mr.
Deputy Speaker. Mr. Deputy Speaker, I have to tell you, the last two Thursdays
that Chair has just been filled with incredible wisdom and beauty.
You know, some of my colleagues have
already mentioned this, but hot off the presses, Mr. Deputy Speaker, we just
found out that Saskatchewan was second in real GDP growth across the nation at
3.4 per cent — more than double the national GDP growth of 1.6 per cent. I
don’t know if you know this, Mr. Deputy Speaker, but Sask
real GDP reached 80.5 billion in 2024.
Saskatchewan is one of the foremost
leaders in sustainable food, fuel, and fertilizer. These three industries are
key to our economic strength and growth. They are key drivers to our economy.
As a resource-rich province, Saskatchewan’s economy heavily relies on
agriculture, mining, and energy sectors, which are often vulnerable to
fluctuations in international trade policies. Recognizing this vulnerability,
the provincial government has implemented several initiatives aimed at
enhancing its economic resilience and mitigating the impacts of tariffs imposed
by the United States.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, let’s talk about our
economy. Saskatchewan is a province that has always prided itself on resilience
and collaboration. That can be seen in many ways, those being our new
all-time-high population of 1.25 million people, or that we are second
among the provinces with total capital investment, reaching nearly
20 billion in 2024. Mr. Deputy Speaker, there were more than 70
large-scale investment projects in Saskatchewan by private companies, with a
potential investment commitment of $42 billion. Saskatchewan has the
second lowest net debt to GDP ratio among the provinces.
Mr. Deputy Speaker, we support the
federal government in the use of targeted counter-tariffs, but we do not
support the use of export tariffs. For far too long, businesses in our province
have been at the mercy of external pressure that seeks to undermine this
government’s progress. We’ve seen the detrimental effects of unilateral tariffs
and trade, which highlights the need for targeted counter-tariffs, and we
support the federal government in deploying these measures as they protect our
interests without resorting to the harmful practice of export tariffs.
Now, Mr. Deputy Speaker, I’ve said it
before and I’ll say it again. Third time’s the charm here. Mark Scholz, the
president of the Canadian Association of Energy Contractors, said in this
building and in Calgary at the CAOEC [Canadian
Association of Energy Contractors] luncheon, and I quote, “Everyone in the room
know it’s the advocacy and diplomatic work of this Premier and this government
who have kept the tariffs on the energy sector at their current level.”
One of the significant strengths of
Saskatchewan lies in its rich natural resources, particularly in potash,
grains, and energy production, including oil and natural gas. The provincial
government is taking deliberate steps to promote these industries, making them
more competitive on the global stage by investing in infrastructure
improvements such as transportation and logistics. Saskatchewan has improved
the efficiency of moving goods to market, reducing operational costs for
producers. This solid infrastructure not only aids in the domestic market, but
also positions Saskatchewan exports favourably in the face of American tariffs,
allowing the province to remain competitive.
One of these programs is the low
productivity and reactivation oil well program, a Crown royalty and freehold
production tax volumetric drilling incentive for low-producing, suspended, or
inactive horizontal oil wells. Mr. Deputy Speaker, this government listens to
industry. We listen to experts in their industries. This is an example of that.
Now,
Mr. Deputy Speaker, a lifetime ago I remember throwing tongs, scrubbing shacks,
and doping pipe on the rigs. So much has changed in the oil and gas industry
since the first time my boots hit a rig floor. And I’m not sure if you’re
aware, Mr. Deputy Speaker, of what a cathead is, but the first rig I was on was
one of the last rigs in Canada to have a cathead. It’s almost like a tire rim
welded to the side of an engine, spinning at really high rpm [revolutions per
minute], which you wrap a rope around that’s attached to a clevis, which you
hook your drill pipe up on the pipe floor and you use it to pull it up the vee-door
to the floor.
Now
this practice was eliminated shortly after because it’s extremely dangerous — a
practice that was there for many years. Well, Mr. Deputy Speaker, in this
ever-changing industry that’s changing faster today than it ever has, we have
to listen to the experts in the industry. And here we do, and it’s paying dues
in the province of Saskatchewan.
Our
administration has also taken significant steps to ensure that Saskatchewan’s
businesses thrive through increased procurement efforts. Take for example our
procurement of steel from Evraz, demonstrating not
only our commitment to local employers but also our dedication to fostering a
robust economy within our own borders. By supporting these local businesses, we
effectively strengthen our economy and decrease our reliance on external markets,
including markets in the United States.
Another
way this government is protecting all of us from tariffs was by delivering a
balanced budget and putting Saskatchewan in a position of strength. Our
government understands that economic expansion is not solely achievable through
the US market. That’s why we are actively focused on reducing Saskatchewan’s
reliance on exports to the US by increasing our presence in international
markets. Securing sales to a more diverse set of global partners will enhance
our economic stability.
In
addition to these economic strategies, we must look to expand vital
infrastructure projects. This government continues to push forward with plans
for developing our ports, pipelines, and rail systems — essential projects that
are vital, not only for Saskatchewan but also for Canada as a whole. We need to
ensure that our province remains a key player in the national framework,
promoting trade and commerce across borders, not just with the US but globally.
Furthermore, our Premier and government,
in their vision for Saskatchewan, has emphasized the importance of a strong and
united Canada, a principle we hold dear as the Saskatchewan Party. Indeed we
have not once suggested that Canada should become the 51st state. Those words
have arisen repeatedly from the opposition’s commentary. Instead our Premier
just reminded us the other day of our party’s eighth guiding principle: “The
constant improvement of Saskatchewan’s economic and social conditions within a
strong and united Canada.”
We strive for a continuous improvement
of Saskatchewan’s economic and social conditions. This co‑operative,
diplomatic spirit with the rest of the country is paramount in addressing any
concern.
As
a government, we stand firmly opposed to the carbon tax that affects every
individual and family in Saskatchewan. You can see our efforts at work, as
Saskatchewan has been carbon tax free now for 30 days. We recognize that the
carbon tax places an undue burden on our residents, impacting their purchasing
power and the livelihoods of everyone every day. The removal of the carbon tax
has allowed us to work towards a sustainable economic environment that grants
our citizens stability and growth, making everyday necessities more affordable
for everyone.
Mr.
Deputy Speaker, I want to address the notion that our neighbours to the west
pose a threat to us directly and immediately. The political landscape can often
be treacherous, especially in times when true leadership is required. Good
thing we have that in Saskatchewan. However I must remind this Assembly that
the only party stoking the flames of fear is in fact the opposition itself. The
opposition has said we’re in a crisis where a crisis does not exist, while our
government focuses on addressing real issues that affect the people of
Saskatchewan and our economy.
In
conclusion, the motion presented by the opposition reflects tactics that seek
to mislead the public about our intentions as a government. We will continue to
work alongside other premiers, federal ministers, and Canadian business leaders
to engage the US government constructively, emphasizing the harm tariffs will
cause to not just Saskatchewan but the entire Canadian economy.
Let
us remember now more than ever that our focus must be on uniting our province
and ensuring the prosperity of our citizens, rejecting divisive rhetoric, and
standing firm on our guiding principles. For the sake of Saskatchewan, let’s
move forward together proudly as part of this great country while nurturing our
own unique identity. Thank you.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Canora-Pelly.
Sean Wilson: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to just add a few points to our tariff plan.
Yeah, our government is aligned with all other provinces in the need to take
counteraction against unjustified tariffs, including stopping the purchase of
US alcohol and reviewing all government procurement to prioritize Canadian
suppliers, within the goal of reducing or eliminating US procurement.
We
support efforts to increase procurement from Saskatchewan-based employers, like
the recent announcement by the Saskatchewan Crowns to increase procurement of
steel from Evraz in Regina. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — The 65‑minute period has
expired, and the 10‑minute period, question-and-answer period, will
begin. And I recognize the member from Weyburn-Bengough.
Michael Weger: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. With the
Liberal Party having completed
their takeover of the NDP, we now know for certain that there is no difference
between the two parties. Now it’s time to find out what these members opposite
really believe in. Did they support the Liberal-NDP in the election, or did
they support the actual Liberals?
To
the member from Athabasca: did you support the federal candidate in the North
that has previously been a Liberal, then an NDP, and now a Liberal?
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Athabasca.
Leroy Laliberte: — Thank you for the member opposite’s
question, Deputy Speaker. You know, it’s pretty funny that we actually got to
this point. I knew the question was going to eventually come, Mr. Speaker. But
you know, us as northerners, one of the things that was done for a long time is
that our people collaborated, and we listened to people and we listened to our
Elders, their many teachings, Mr. Speaker.
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I
haven’t once came into the Assembly . . . [inaudible] . . .
and talked about who it was that I was going to vote for during the election.
All I did say, Mr. Speaker, was that the people of the North would eventually
have their voice in the Assembly and also that in the House of Commons, Mr.
Speaker.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from Regina
South Albert.
Aleana Young: —
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. Second day in a row, there’s an awful lot to
unpack from the comments put on the record by the member from
Martensville-Blairmore. She talked about how, you know, when you run out of
facts, you run on fear. So the Premier ran out of facts when he didn’t run on
cost of living, health care, or crime in the last election but instead change
rooms?
She
said people in Saskatchewan are in a pretty good spot. Did she mean the hungry
children, Mr. Speaker, referenced today in question period? She said the
Premier’s out educating on our behalf all around the world, Mr. Speaker. Was
that what the Premier was doing when he made us an international laughingstock
by defending Colin Thatcher for five days?
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I fail to see how that question
related to the motion. I’ll ask another question to be asked, please. I recognize
the member from Carrot River Valley.
Terri Bromm: —
Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. The opposition has certainly changed their tone
since the American election. The member for Regina Elphinstone has said, “Any
political agenda that takes climate change seriously doesn’t have space for the
KM Trans Mountain expansion.” And that same opposition opposed Saskatchewan’s
representation at COP28 [Conference of the Parties
28]. Those members also ran on a platform that included a commitment to cut
Saskatchewan’s international trade offices in their recent platform. But now
what? They suddenly support international engagement and want pipelines.
To
the member from Regina Northeast: why did it take the opposition so long to
support our government on international trade office and policies that matter?
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from Regina
Northeast.
Jacqueline Roy: — Well thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is a
pleasure to rise and to answer a question. Quite frankly I’m not sure how the
other one didn’t apply on our side, but absolutely, oh yes. All right, let’s
answer the question then.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — Questioning the Speaker’s decision
is not appropriate. I’ll ask you to carry on with your question, please.
Jacqueline Roy: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker,
what we are debating today is that the Assembly opposes Donald Trump’s threats
to make Canada the 51st state. And as I stated in my last reply, continuing to
insert red herrings into the debate that have no place there is absolutely not
going to distract me. And quite frankly, Mr. Deputy Speaker, it is a little
tiring to hear from the side government about how we simply don’t know about
the economy on this side and about stating things that aren’t in fact factual.
So
I could go into a 20‑minute discussion and debate about this, or I could
simply say that, yes, we know what the heck we’re doing on this side with the
economy, and no, this isn’t a debate about every little nitpicking thing that
is good or bad that side government thinks that they can throw at us. Let’s get
on with the next question.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Athabasca.
Leroy Laliberte: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So I spoke
about there’s Treaties 2, 4, 5, 6, 8, and 10 in this province, Mr. Speaker. Can
the member from Martensville-Blairmore please tell me if there was any
consultation done with that, what the separation of our province . . .
do to this country? . . . [inaudible] . . . Also economic
impact and separating from Canada and their response, was it a terrible idea,
Mr. Speaker?
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Martensville-Blairmore.
Hon. Jamie Martens: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thank you
to the member opposite for the question. I appreciate that question. And on
this side of the House we have never discussed the fact about separation. There
is no speaking about separation. And there is no consultation, of course,
because there is no talking about separation.
We
absolutely hold all of our communications and relationships with all of our
treaties very seriously. And if there was any speaking on any part of anything
that we do in this government, we do consult, Mr. Speaker.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from
Canora-Pelly.
Sean Wilson: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Two parties ran on fear in the last election, the NDP
and the Liberals. Now that the NDP have been essentially taken over by the
Liberals, it is clear that they’re one and the same. Despite our government
being consistently opposed to tariffs and Donald Trump’s annexation comments,
the opposition NDP continue to spread fearful rhetoric, just like their federal
counterparts.
To
the member from Regina Northeast: in this past election, did you support the
Liberal, NDP parties that ran on fear? Or did you support the Conservative
campaign that focused on hope?
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — That question was listed for the
member from Regina Northeast, and I’ll ask her to respond now. Thank you.
Jacqueline Roy: — Merci, monsieur. [Translation: Thank
you, sir.] Well I guess that’s what those eyebrow looks at me were about
before, that I would be getting a question. Mr. Speaker. We’re in a crisis
where a crisis doesn’t exist. Can we get back to what’s at hand here? And can
we actually seriously look at this debate? Because quite frankly, I don’t think
it’s funny. And quite frankly, I don’t think the rhetoric from the member opposite
and the little eyebrow glances are funny. Thank you.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod:
— I recognize the member from Regina South Albert. Thank you.
Aleana Young:
— Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. To the member from Martensville-Blairmore:
would she confidently go out onto any corner in her constituency and defend
this government spending a million dollars for a junket in Dubai?
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I
recognize the member from Martensville-Blairmore.
Hon. Jamie
Martens: — Thank you,
Mr. Speaker, and I thank the member opposite for the question. I am absolutely
happy to go out onto any corner of my constituency and absolutely defend
everything that we do as a government, because we do it for the people of
Saskatchewan.
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — I recognize the member from Kindersley.
Kim Gartner: — Mr. Deputy Speaker, it was just released today that
Saskatchewan had the second-highest economic growth in Canada in 2024 at 3.4
per cent, more than double the national average of 1.6 per cent, creating more
opportunities and jobs for Saskatchewan residents . . .
Deputy Speaker B. McLeod: — The 75‑minute period has expired.
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — I
recognize the member from Cut Knife-Turtleford. My apologies, sir.
James
Thorsteinson: —
Thank you, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I am honoured today to rise to highlight an
extremely important issue for our province. Mr. Speaker, at the conclusion of
my comments today, I will be moving a motion that will seek to work
collaboratively to undo some of the harmful policies that have been implemented
on the province of Saskatchewan and our nation as a whole over the last decade.
Mr. Speaker, for 10 years we had a
federal government that felt it could impose its will on the province of
Saskatchewan. It completely disregarded provincial jurisdiction. The Trudeau
government, propped up by Jagmeet Singh and the NDP, brought forward numerous
regulations that handicapped the people, businesses, and industries that make
Saskatchewan home.
The first of these that comes to mind is
of course the carbon tax. Even how the carbon tax was announced was a slap to
the face to the people of Saskatchewan. At a meeting of provincial
environmental ministers, which was supposed to be about discussing how to
address climate change and any potential carbon-pricing scheme, then federal
minister of Environment Catherine McKenna rolled a TV in for them all to watch
Justin Trudeau announce that they were implementing the carbon tax without
consultation to the provinces.
Our minister of Environment at the time,
now our Premier, was the first person to show his opposition to the way in
which this was being announced and implemented and walked out of the room. He
said, “I guess there’s no point in us being here then, is there?” That is what
Justin Trudeau considered to be consultation.
Mr. Speaker, we were the first province
to take the federal government to court over the federal imposing the carbon
tax on the people of Saskatchewan, an effort that the opposition called a
pointless crusade. I can assure you of one thing, Mr. Deputy Speaker: the
residents of our great province did not feel it was pointless, and neither did
the many other jurisdictions that joined us in our fight as we took it all the
way to the Supreme Court.
Now I know the consumer carbon tax is on
hold, and hopefully it will stay that way into the future, but there is still
the industrial carbon tax which will drive up costs of everything we as
Canadians consume. It’ll drive up steel used in the car you drive, the
pipelines that move our oil, the rail cars that move our grain and potash, and
so much more. And let me tell you, Mr. Deputy Speaker, the companies that are
buying the steel to build those products will not be absorbing that cost. They
will be passing that cost on to the consumer. It’ll drive up the cost of fuel,
fertilizer, concrete, electricity. All of those increased costs will get passed
down to you and I, the end consumer.
Speaking of electricity, Mr. Speaker,
that’s another area where the federal government has intruded on provincial
jurisdiction. It’s clearly set out in the Constitution that power generation is
under the purview of the provinces. Justin Trudeau’s clean electricity
regulations are not only unrealistic; they’re unconstitutional.
Our government fully intends to continue
to provide the residents of Saskatchewan with affordable, reliable electricity
from a variety of sources now and into the future, sources that include a
mixture of renewables such as wind, solar, and hydro, as well as continuing to
use our bountiful supply of natural gas and coal and potentially nuclear.
Mr. Speaker, the Trudeau Liberal
government attacked our hard-working oil and gas workers as well as the
Saskatchewan economy by imposing rules and regulations that would cripple that
industry. Bill C‑69, commonly known as the no-more-pipelines bill, would
make it virtually impossible for any new pipeline development to move our
product to tidewater. This has a devastating effect on our energy sector that
has to look for other options of moving their products to their customers. Of
course that means a lot more of what I like to call mobile pipelines — long
trains of car after car after car of high-quality crude oil moving across the
country.
Mr. Speaker, that also has an effect on
other industries as well due to our limited rail capacity. Many other
industries use our rail system to move their product to port as well. Taking
some of that capacity away to move something that is easily and safely moved
via pipeline creates rail backlogs and customer uncertainty.
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Think of all the agricultural products
we produce right here in Saskatchewan that would benefit from access to more
shipping availability — wheat, canola, canola oil, peas, durum. I could go on
and on. None of these products can be moved efficiently or economically by any
method other than by rail.
Other Saskatchewan industries also use
rail to get their products to their customers. Our potash and forestry sectors
use rail because, quite frankly, rock and two-by-fours don’t fit down a
pipeline.
Mr. Speaker, another way in which the
Trudeau Liberal government punished our energy sector is by imposing the
methane regulations which is, make no mistake, a production cap on oil and gas.
Saskatchewan produces the most sustainable oil anywhere in the world. What the
methane regulations do is limit the potential growth of an industry that is
leading the world in environmental sustainability.
Now, Mr. Deputy Speaker, our GDP numbers
were just released today, and our province is second in the country at 3.4 per
cent of real GDP growth — over double what the national average is. Imagine how
great that number could be if all of these harmful policies imposed by the
Trudeau-Singh coalition government weren’t in effect.
Now, Mr. Speaker, I’ve spent a lot of
time talking about what the former federal government, led by Justin Trudeau,
has done that has negatively impacted Saskatchewan. But today there’s a new
government and a new Prime Minister. Some people are concerned that this is the
same old Liberal government of the past, and are talking about them taking
immediate and serious action. Let me assure you, Mr. Speaker, that our
government, particularly two of us sitting here in this corner, are not running
and lighting our hair on fire and running for the exits.
Now is not the time for overreaction and
panic. Now is when true leaders work collaboratively to come up with solutions
that work for the benefit of all Saskatchewan residents. Our Premier and our
government are prepared to do just that. Prime Minister Carney has stated
repeatedly, both during the campaign and since being elected, that he wants to
work with all provinces to build a better, stronger, more unified Canada. I
sincerely hope that’s the case, Mr. Speaker, and that the Prime Minister will
direct his government to abandon all of the harmful policies set out by his
predecessor. Then and only then will Canada truly become a stronger and more
unified nation.
Now, Mr. Speaker, it’s clear that the
Liberal takeover of the NDP is complete. After listening to former NDP MLA
turned Liberal MP Buckley Belanger on the Evan Bray show earlier this week, I’m
hopeful that this is the case. Mr. Belanger spoke of looking forward to working
with the provincial government on many fronts, particularly when it comes to
our natural resource sectors. I’m confident that this messaging came from the
top and hope that all the Liberal MPs have received the memo.
Policies matter, Mr. Deputy Speaker. The
harmful policies of the past must be removed and quickly in order for our
province and our nation to become the energy powerhouse we can and should be.
As our Premier has stated, now is an opportunity for Prime Minister Carney to
hit the reset button, to fix the federal government’s relationship with
Saskatchewan, and to work together to build a strong and growing Saskatchewan
with a strong and united Canada.
Mr. Speaker, that is why I am moving the
following motion:
That this Assembly
call upon the new Liberal Government of Canada to stand up for Saskatchewan by
eliminating Bill C‑69, the industrial carbon tax, the methane cap, the
oil and gas cap, and the clean electricity regulations.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — Thank you. It has been moved by the
member from Cut Knife-Turtleford that:
This Assembly call
upon the new Liberal Government of Canada to stand up for Saskatchewan by
eliminating Bill C‑69, the industrial carbon tax, the methane cap, the
oil and gas cap, and the clean electricity regulations.
Is the Assembly ready for the question?
I recognize the Deputy Government House Leader.
Hon. Lori Carr: — Well thank you,
Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I couldn’t agree with him more, and I adjourn debate.
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — The member has moved to adjourn
debate. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — Carried. I recognize the Government
House Leader.
Hon. Tim
McLeod: —
Thank you very much, Mr. Deputy Speaker. I move that this Assembly do now
adjourn.
Deputy
Speaker B. McLeod: — This House now stands adjourned
until Monday at 1:30. Have a great weekend, and safe travels everyone.
[The Assembly adjourned at 12:22.]
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