CONTENTS
Innovative Seed Farm Recognized for 55 Years of Service
Silverspring Community Association Appreciated for Their
Good Work
Cancer Society’s Daffodil Month Is a Call to Action
Bust the Winter Blues Festival Brings Joy to Northerners
Edenwold Early Years & Youth Centre Helps Children
Learn
Northerners Take Lengthy Trips for Affordable Groceries
Saskatchewan’s Resource Sector Continues to Set New Records
National Unity and Relationship with Federal Government
Child Care Agreement with Federal Government
Health Care Staffing and Access to Health Care
Proposed Purchase of ISC Shares
Investigation of Saskatchewan Marshals Service Employee
FIRST
SESSION — THIRTIETH LEGISLATURE
of
the
Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan
DEBATES
AND PROCEEDINGS
(HANSARD)
N.S. Vol. 66 No. 30A Tuesday, April
29, 2025, 13:30
[The
Assembly met at 13:30.]
[Prayers]
Speaker
Goudy: — So in accordance with the Board of
Internal Economy directive #23, Caucus Accountability and Disclosure, I hereby
table the audited financial statements for the term of October 26th, 2020 to
October 27th, 2024 as prepared by the Saskatchewan Party caucus.
And in accordance with the Board of
Internal Economy directive #23, Caucus Accountability and Disclosure, I hereby
table the audited financial statements for the term of October 26th, 2020 to
October 27th, 2024 prepared by the New Democratic Party caucus.
Speaker
Goudy:
— I recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I ask leave for an extended introduction.
Speaker
Goudy: — The minister has requested leave for
an extended introduction. Is leave granted?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: —
Well thank you, Mr. Speaker. April is Daffodil Month and the daffodil
symbolizes hope for people living with cancer. And with two in five
Saskatchewan residents expected to be diagnosed in their lifetime, cancer will
impact all of us and our families. Today I’m honoured to welcome five
remarkable individuals from the Canadian Cancer Society sitting up in the west
gallery, each carrying powerful stories and a shared mission to change the
future of cancer in Canada.
Srini Correa is a volunteer, a young
widow, and a single mother. She lost her husband, Eshan, to colon cancer when
he was just 29 years old. And during his chemotherapy they welcomed their son,
Laurenso, a miracle child who now gives Srini the strength to advocate for
early detection and prevention in young adults so fewer families have to face
what they did.
Emeka Elemamba is a father, a community
leader, and a fierce advocate. When cancer took a beloved family member during
the pandemic, Emeka stepped in to raise her six-year-old daughter. That loss
became his calling to fight for a world where no child has to grow up without a
parent because of cancer. And I just want to quickly thank Srini and Emeka for
sharing their powerful stories with me earlier today when we had an opportunity
to meet.
Also joining us today is Robin Speer,
who’s a board member and long-time volunteer. He’s driven by the faces and
names of the loved ones that he’s lost. And with decades of experience in
public policy, he’s using his voice and his heart to raise funds and awareness
across Saskatchewan. And I’ll just stop and say, Mr. Speaker, Robin is a proud
constituent of The Battlefords and has done really incredible work in bringing
the CIBC Run for the Cure to our home community. We’ve had two editions now;
I’ve had the privilege of attending both. And Robin has done such a great job
engaging survivors and patients and families in our community, and many thanks
to Robin for that.
Also joining us is Andrea Seale, CEO
[chief executive officer] of the Canadian Cancer Society, who has dedicated her
life to making Canada more compassionate, just, and healthy. She leads with
vision, with empathy, and a strong belief in the power of people to create
change.
We also have Angeline Webb joining us,
senior manager of advocacy, who has spent more than 20 years fighting for
prevention, equity in access. And she stands up for those navigating their
cancer journeys, making sure no one is left behind.
These five individuals remind us what it
means to turn grief into purpose and purpose into action. Mr. Speaker, I would
ask all members to join me in welcoming these guests to the Saskatchewan
legislature.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Walsh Acres.
Jared Clarke: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. I want to join the minister in welcoming these fine folks to the
Saskatchewan legislature today. I’d like to welcome Srini, Emeka, Robin,
Andrea, and Angeline.
Cancer is something that has profoundly
touched my family, and so it is very personal to us. And my family is
navigating some of those challenges of having cancer in the family right now.
So it is with great enthusiasm that I welcome you here on behalf of our team
and thank you for the work that you do.
I hear the commercials on the radio
talking about how many people are touched and diagnosed by cancer every day and
every year in Saskatchewan. And it is something that I don’t wish on any
family, but I am grateful for the fact that you are here doing this work. And
thank you for your advocacy on this as well. It’s something that no family
should have to go through, and I’m very grateful, again, that you’re doing this
work.
So on behalf of our team, the official
opposition, thank you and welcome to the Saskatchewan legislature.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Government Relations.
Hon. Eric
Schmalz: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you, I’d like to welcome several
individuals who are seated in your gallery here today. They are officials with
the Ministry of Government Relations, specifically with the municipal relations
division.
I’m going to read the names, if you
wouldn’t mind just giving us a wave when you hear your name. We have Margaret
Folk, Karla Hamilton — there we go — Jaki Biesenthal, Haley Seitz, Carly
Hagerman, Mary Jane Zafra, Yuhong Zhao, Hanz Perolina, and Darlene Larson.
Mr. Speaker, on behalf of my office, I
would like to welcome them to the Legislative Assembly. And I’d ask that
members thank them for their service to the province of Saskatchewan, the hard
work they do every day. I have the privilege of seeing that work in action, Mr.
Speaker, and I’d like to welcome them to their Legislative Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Walsh Acres.
Jared Clarke: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. I’d like to join with this member in welcoming these fantastic
Saskatchewan people to their Saskatchewan legislature. As the shadow minister
for municipal affairs on our team, I’ve had the privilege to meet with many
municipal leaders across the province, and I know how hard they work to
represent their communities. And I’d like to again join in welcoming you to
your Saskatchewan legislature. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Cypress Hills.
Doug Steele: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. It brings me great pleasure to introduce a lady from the Southwest, a
volunteer from the community of Eastend and the Southwest overall. It’s what
Saskatchewan is built on, the leadership of these individuals. Val Bidaux was
here today receiving the Saskatchewan Volunteer Medal award. And like I say,
I’ve known Val for a number of years before I become a politician, back in my
municipal days. And Val was always there for community, whether it was health
care, education, you name it, she’s there. That’s what Saskatchewan is built on
— on working hard, working with our people from the communities.
Also along with Val today is her
daughter Jade Virpy. Also Chelsie Lingenfelter. Right on, Chelsie, give us a
wave. And an exchange student from a country a bit a ways away from where we
are today, is Lucas Abreau, and he’s from Brazil. He’s with the educational
exchange program in Eastend, Saskatchewan.
And I don’t know if this gentleman needs
any introduction. It’s Lorne Scott. Mr. Lorne Scott.
And you might notice the other gentleman
up in the Speaker’s gallery, but I promised to let another colleague introduce
him.
So I’d just like to say welcome to your
legislature and have a great day. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Cumberland.
Jordan McPhail: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. I just want to take a quick moment to join in with the member opposite
in welcoming somebody that I did not know was getting a Volunteer Medal. But
I’ve known her from my time at SUMA [Saskatchewan Urban Municipalities
Association] with municipal councillors. Val, who probably deserves another
medal for having to share and talk politics with me at a drink in a hotel bar
during the SUMA convention. She just brings an absolute light to her community.
And I know that from Regina we have to
travel west to get to Eastend, which can be a little confusing. But that’s
something that I know from the town of La Ronge, where you have to travel north
to get to Southend and south to get to Northside.
So I just want to say, on behalf of our
team here, a special thank you to all the folks here today, and a special
shout-out to Val and thank her for her service to her community.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Moose Jaw Wakamow.
Megan
Patterson: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you, I would like to introduce a
very special group of individuals from Moose Jaw and welcome them to this their
Legislative Assembly. I would like to start by introducing Retired Lieutenant
Colonel Lyle Johnson and Wayne Cameron, who both received the Volunteer Medal
this morning for their tireless service to our community.
I would also like to introduce Fran
Cameron, Wayne’s wife; Joyce and Ron Walter; and Phil Adkins, who are members
of the Friends of the Forces Fellowship.
Wayne Cameron is a devoted volunteer
whose passion for service and leadership has made a significant impact in our
city. As a board member of RuBarb Productions, he has been instrumental in
promoting local theatre in Moose Jaw. Beyond the arts, Wayne’s extensive
volunteer work including serving as a president of Toastmasters judging
speaking competitions and leading a student backpack program in Costa Rica. His
service has been ongoing. He has previously received other accolades such as
the Wakamow volunteer club Service Above Self Award and the Queen Elizabeth II
Platinum Jubilee Medal.
Retired Lieutenant Colonel Lyle Johnson
is a distinguished educator and community leader whose contributions span
decades. A retired high school teacher from Moose Jaw, Lyle enriched the lives
of countless students by producing and directing over 60 theatrical
productions. In 1985 he founded Moose Jaw Crime Stoppers and is still involved
today.
Please join me in congratulating retired
Lieutenant Colonel Lyle Johnson and Wayne Cameron on being selected as medal
recipients, and welcome all of our friends from Moose Jaw to this their
Legislative Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Walsh Acres.
Jared Clarke: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. It’s an honour to be back up on my feet again to introduce someone
who’s really important to me and played a big role in my life, and that is Mr.
Lorne Scott up in your gallery, Mr. Speaker.
For those who don’t know, Lorne is first
and foremost a farmer, a conservationist, part of the Order of Canada, part of
the order of Saskatchewan, has a lot of accolades including being featured in a
book, Protecting the Prairies: Lorne Scott and the Politics of
Conservation. Well worth the read, Mr. Speaker, if you want to look at
conservation and the history of conservation in Saskatchewan and the role that
Lorne has played over the last many, many decades, Mr. Speaker, so many
decades.
I’m going to just tell one quick story.
The first time I went out to Lorne Scott’s farm south of Indian Head, he had
invited me out. He said, “Jared, let’s go band some young yellow-headed
blackbirds.” He’s got a number of wetlands on his land and he said, “Come on
out. We’ll go out and spend the evening banding young yellow-headed
blackbirds.” So I drive the hour out of the city to get to his place. I get to
his yard; he’s nowhere to be found. I phone him. I said, “Hey I’m at your
place. Are we banding?” He’s like, “Actually I’m spraying right now so I’m not
coming, but maybe we can organize it another time.” And he’s like, “Look around
the yard and just see what . . . just have a look around the yard,
see what birds you can find.” I was like, “Okay, thanks.” So I just drove an
hour to get to you but okay, I’ll go home.
So I look around his yard and I’m like . . .
I see all his combines, and I’m like wow, Lorne collects antique combines. I
later found out that’s what he farms with, Mr. Speaker. So he’s been farming
for a long time and he’s using the implements that he started farming with many
years ago. But it is a great honour to welcome him to his Legislative Assembly.
Thank you.
[13:45]
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Canora-Pelly.
Sean Wilson: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I would like to introduce to you and the members, up in
your gallery for the first time ever this year, Sean Checkley. We both ran
parallel lives on opposite sides of the province. Both of us are politically on
this side of the House, both of us are or were mayors of small communities —
mine being Buchanan, his being Fox Valley — and we both also have the proper
spelling of Sean as our first name.
He likes to refer to me as the east
version of him, but I refer to him the proper way — the west version of me. I
invite him to join me for ice cream at Milky Way after. Please welcome him to
his Assembly, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. I just wanted to take a minute to acknowledge the volunteer service
medal recipients that we have joining us here today in their Assembly and
congratulate them on a well-deserved honour.
Mr. Speaker, today myself, the Deputy
Premier, yourself, and a number of colleagues had the opportunity to attend the
30th Volunteer Medal ceremonies at Government House, and it really was an
uplifting day. Our province’s motto is “from many peoples, strength,” and the
strength of our volunteers has made our communities right across this province
so much stronger in so many ways. These are people who did not stick up their
hand to volunteer for the accolades. In fact I had no fewer than three of them
tell me when I was congratulating them today, “Oh, well they all are deserving,
but I don’t know if I deserve this award.”
At the risk of offending them, Mr.
Speaker, I’m going to say, you most certainly do. Your communities recognize
the work that you do and the importance of that work in your communities,
volunteering in so many ways. Your nominators recognize that work, and the
provincial awards council also concurred with that judgment. Mr. Speaker, these
volunteers, although it may make them uncomfortable because they are a humble
lot, they deserve all of our praise. As members of this Assembly, I would
invite all members to join me in welcoming them to their Legislative Assembly.
And briefly, while I’m on my feet, I
feel both the need to welcome former minister Scott to his Legislative
Assembly, and state on the record that he is definitely the best birder that we
have in the Assembly here today. But I know you have an eager student in the
member from Regina Walsh Acres.
Mr. Speaker, I invite all members to
join me in welcoming these fine guests and minister Scott to their Legislative
Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Coronation Park.
Noor Burki: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. To you through you I will be welcoming a wonderful and remarkable
group of students from Coronation Park Community School, our future leaders.
And I want to say about this school, it is just behind my office, very close to
my constituency.
And the best thing in this school that I
can see, its diversity is there. And this school has one opportunity with many
of the schools in my constituency that they offer every year on Christmastime.
They give a free lunch to the students, warm meal, and they provide all variety
of halal, veggie, and they provide all those kind of things. So I’m very proud
of the teacher, administrators.
And the teacher that is with them is Ms.
Bird, incredible teacher. Thank you, Ms. Bird, for bringing your class to this
Legislative Assembly. And after question period, Mr. Speaker, I will be facing
their hard and smart questions. They are all from grade 8, students of grade 8
class. Most of the time I’m more scared from grade 8 students than high school
students because their questions are very smart and sometimes very tricky as
well.
So I will request all members to join
our future faces, to give them a warm welcome to their Legislative Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Rochdale.
Joan Pratchler: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. I would like to, to you and through you, recognize some more child
care providers here in our province. We have Brandi and Jesse, who are here
from the Sask Poly child care provision, Play & Discover Early Learning
Centre. They do wonderful work with the children. I’ve seen their work many
times and it’s wonderful.
So with me I’d like to ask everyone to
join me in welcoming them to their legislature.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Education.
Hon. Everett
Hindley: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to join with the member opposite in welcoming
Brandi and Jesse from the Sask Poly early learning centre and to thank them for
the great and amazing work that they are doing supporting children and families
across this part of the province. And just reaffirm this government’s
commitment to looking forward to sitting down with the new federal government
and renegotiating this child care deal for Saskatchewan.
So I’d ask all members, Mr. Speaker, to
welcome Brandi and Jesse here to this, their Legislative Assembly. Thank you,
Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I just
wanted to make one quick comment too. The Deputy Premier might be able to
correct me, but today we heard some very wise words from our Lieutenant
Governor. And she had said, I believe, “The reason that volunteers don’t get
paid is not because they’re worthless but because they’re priceless.” And I
think those were great words today. So again, thank you so very much for being
here and all you do for the province.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Northeast.
Jacqueline Roy: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. Today I rise to present a petition calling for equity in education for
students with complex needs. In 2023 the Saskatchewan Human Rights Commission
conducted a review of the policies, programs, and funding models to provide
targeted supports for students with dyslexia.
But learning can be impaired by many
things beyond dyslexia, including autism, ADHD [attention deficit hyperactivity
disorder], FASD [fetal alcohol spectrum disorder], dysgraphia, dyscalculia,
deafness and hard of hearing, blindness and visual impairment, mental health
challenges, intellectual disabilities, physical disabilities, chronic medical
conditions, and other factors.
Access to education is a right under the
Sask human rights code, and an untold number of students across Saskatchewan
are being denied their access to their human right of an education.
We, in the prayer
therefore read as follows, that we call on the Government of Saskatchewan to
immediately work with the Sask Human Rights Commission to conduct an in-depth
review of our public education system specifically around the policies,
programs, and funding models designed to support children living with complex
needs in our public education system.
Mr. Speaker, the undersigned are from
Regina. I do so present.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Mount Royal.
Trent
Wotherspoon: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise to present petitions on behalf of concerned
citizens as it relates to this government putting at risk affordable child care
in Saskatchewan. They note that 11 other provinces and territories have already
found agreement with the federal government. There’s only two provinces that
are outstanding, this government being one of them. They recognize how
important child care is, affordable child care, to families across this
province; how critical it is for those families, but also for jobs and our
economy as well. They identified that without access to affordable and
accessible child care, families would be forced to leave the workplace, which
would have impacts of course on them and their families and our economy and
their communities.
The prayer reads as follows:
These petitions today are signed by
concerned residents from Regina, Saskatoon, Carrot River, and La Ronge. I so
submit.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Meewasin.
Nathaniel Teed: — Thank you very
much, Mr. Speaker. It’s an honour to be on my feet today to present our
petition to the Legislative Assembly calling for mandatory intimate partner
violence education.
The undersigned residents of the
province wish to bring to our attention that Saskatchewan has the highest rate
of per capita intimate partner violence — IPV, also known as domestic violence
— in Canada; the economic impact of IPV in Canada is estimated at over 7 billion
per year; a large portion of tangible IPV costs are paid by the government for
items like the criminal and civil justice system and health care system; that
mandatory intimate partner violence and workplace orientation would include all
genders from all walks of life in all areas of the province; and that employers
and employees need to know the signs of IPV and where to call for help. Mr.
Speaker, education is key to changing the rates of intimate partner violence.
I’ll read the prayer, Mr. Speaker:
We, in the prayer
that reads as follows, respectfully request that the Legislative Assembly of
Saskatchewan call on the Government of Saskatchewan to immediately mandate
education on intimate partner violence, and that it be included in the
orientation process for all new employees across all workplaces in the
province.
Mr. Speaker, the undersigned residents
reside in Saskatoon. I do so present.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Riversdale.
Kim Breckner: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise today to
present a petition calling for the Government of Saskatchewan to address the
affordability crisis.
The
undersigned residents would like to bring to our attention the following: that
inflation is the highest it’s been in more than three decades; that according
to Angus Reid, 84 per cent of Saskatchewan people are feeling stressed about
money — that’s the highest such rates of financial insecurity in Canada; that
half of Saskatchewan residents were living paycheque
to paycheque before transportation and food costs skyrocketed in 2022; that the
Sask Party government’s power, PST [provincial sales tax], and tax hikes make
life more expensive; and that while other provinces have acted, the Sask Party
continues to ignore the opposition’s call for gas and grocery relief.
With that, I’ll read the prayer:
We, in the prayer
that follows, respectfully request the Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan
call on the Government of Saskatchewan to meaningfully address the
affordability crisis in Saskatchewan.
The signatories to this petition reside
in Regina. I do so present.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Coronation Park.
Noor Burki: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. The undersigned residents of the province of Saskatchewan wish to
bring to your attention the following. The province of Saskatchewan is
responsible for ensuring the safety of drinking water. Many citizens of Regina
do not have safe drinking water because the pipes that deliver water to their
homes are both old and made of lead, resulting in high concentrations of lead
leaching into their drinking water.
This situation has unequal impacts on
the health of vulnerable people, including children, low-income residents,
Indigenous people, seniors, renters, and new Canadians living in Regina’s urban
core. The province of Saskatchewan administrator administers federal
infrastructure funding that’s intended for revitalizing core infrastructure,
including safe drinking water.
We, in the prayer
that reads as follows, respectfully request the Legislative Assembly of
Saskatchewan to call on the Government of Saskatchewan to ensure access to safe
drinking water for all Regina residents by providing support to the city of
Regina to replace lead water main quickly and safely.
The signatories of this petition reside
in Regina. I do so present.
Speaker Goudy:
— I recognize the member from Canora-Pelly.
Sean Wilson: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. I would like to take this opportunity to recognize Robert Ostafie and
Ostafie Seed Farm from Canora. Robert was recognized for 55 successful years of
pedigreed seed production beginning in 1970. In January of this year Robert was
awarded the Long Service Certificate from the Canadian Seed Growers’
Association. This is an amazing achievement and is a demonstration to his
dedication and excellence in the farming community.
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His mission was to provide for sale to
local farmers a top-quality seed product at a price that was affordable. He
soon learned that wholesaling their product to big companies was not in the
books for them. Robert is proud to say that they continue that trend today.
Robert wanted to make a difference where
farmers came first. He relied on the knowledge passed on to him from his
university peers on how to make that happen. It was possible with hard work,
dedication to growing pedigreed seed crops, making seed sales to local farmers,
and a lot of family labour and sacrifices.
Today Robert still plays an active role
in the seed business. The heavy lifting is now being done by his son Brendan
and their employees. They have become the seed business with many of their new
and exciting ideas being implemented today.
Mr. Speaker, again I want to
congratulate Robert and the Ostafie’s Seed Farm on 55 years of business. Thank
you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Silverspring.
Hugh Gordon: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. Today I’d like to bring to the attention of this Assembly all the good
work done by the Silverspring Community Association in my riding.
Earlier this year, I was fortunate to
receive an invite from the association by their president, Adam Day, to attend
their meeting on February 11th at the Silverspring Elementary School. Mr.
Speaker, I was honoured to attend, knowing that I was the first MLA [Member of
the Legislative Assembly] for Silverspring who had ever attended any of their
meetings.
Mr. Speaker, the Silverspring Community
Association is doing so many positive things in my riding to help support the
community and make Silverspring a better place to live. It is through the
tireless efforts of the community association and many other hard-working
volunteers that they’re able to do things such as publishing a monthly
newsletter; family events such as Fun Day in the Park, Sum Theatre, and the
Winter Festival; as well as maintaining the outdoor rink.
They also provide public forums
regarding important community issues such as electoral, city development,
planning, traffic, and zoning issues, which help them to effectively advocate
on behalf of the community of Silverspring. Mr. Speaker, the Silverspring CA
[community association] also provides several youth and adult programs like
pickleball, basketball, dance, yoga, skating, floor hockey, martial arts,
babysitting, arts and crafts, and so much more.
So I’d like to thank the association
members Adam Day, David Rorstad, Trent Sievert, Andrea Carroll, Geoffrey
Svenkeson, Paul Fraser, Kaiden Deck, and Sue Foreman for all the great work
they do in my riding. I look forward to helping them in their success in the
next four years.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Moosomin-Montmartre.
Kevin Weedmark: — Mr. Speaker, each
year as the snow melts and daffodils begin to bloom, we’re reminded of the
power of resilience and renewal. April is Daffodil Month, a time of reflection,
remembrance, and resolve. Every daffodil pin worn in this House today
represents a life touched by cancer — a parent, a sibling, a friend, a
neighbour. It’s hard to find a single person in this province who hasn’t been
touched by this disease.
The Canadian Cancer Society has led
Daffodil Month for over 65 years. They’ve walked beside families in their
darkest moments. They’ve helped fund life-saving research, provided comfort and
care, and advocated for policies that give people a fighting chance. Their work
has saved lives and changed them.
But cancer doesn’t wait, and neither can
we. Until April 30th every donation made to the Canadian Cancer Society will be
matched, doubling the impact to fuel groundbreaking research that could
transform how we prevent, detect, and treat this disease.
Mr. Speaker, we wear these daffodil pins
with pride, but also with purpose, because behind every pin is a story, a
diagnosis, a battle, a goodbye, and sometimes a miracle. To the survivors, the
caregivers, the grieving, and the fighters, please know that we see you, we
honour you, and we stand with you. Let this month be more than a symbol. Let it
be a call to action. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Cumberland.
Jordan McPhail: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. The people of northern Saskatchewan know that winter can be a
challenging time of year. Extreme cold warnings that can last for weeks, windy
days, blizzards, and sunsets that begin at 4:30 in the afternoon make it easy
for the winter blues to settle in. That is why it is so important for
northerners to come together as a community with events and winter festivals
like Bust the Winter Blues, which is held in Creighton.
This event provides a fun opportunity
for the families and communities of Creighton, Flin Flon, and Denare Beach to
participate in activities like snowshoeing, trivia nights, turkey curling,
bonfires, sliding, outdoor snow soccer, card making, an annual poker derby,
community dances, and a celebrity smooshing contest, which I was able to
participate in with the members of the Creighton town council — which I’ll
clarify is skiing on two-by-fours across the parking lot at the Sportex. And,
Mr. Speaker, I’m happy to announce here that we placed first in the smooshing
event.
Events like these wouldn’t function
without the hard work put in by the organizers, volunteers, and sponsors. They
bring joy to families, strengthen communities, and embrace what it means to be
a northerner. I am very happy that I was able to bring my wife and children to
this year’s Bust the Winter Blues festival, as we all had a great time there.
I would like all members to join me in
thanking and congratulating all the organizers, volunteers, and sponsors for
their hard work and a job well done.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from White City-Qu’Appelle.
Brad
Crassweller: —
Mr. Speaker, today I would like to highlight a tremendous asset to the
community of Edenwold, the Edenwold Early Years & Youth Centre. At the
Edenwold Early Years & Youth Centre they know that children develop and
learn best with hands-on experiences through play and exploration.
The programs offered at this centre
allow children the opportunity to make choices about their activities,
fostering independence and creative experience. The centre focuses on a
holistic approach, with a well-rounded focus on social, emotional, physical,
intellectual, and the spiritual needs of all the children. The centre currently
provides care for 21 full-time and 10 part-time children.
Mr. Speaker, the Edenwold Early Years
& Youth Centre program is based on the developmentally appropriate practice
of each child, being mindful of all the underlying values of parents and
caregivers of the children in their care. I’m honoured and our constituency is
blessed to have such a great staff working hard to meet the needs of our most
valuable asset: our children. I ask all members to join me in thanking the
staff of the Edenwold Early Years & Youth Centre for their commitment to
our next generation of learners. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Athabasca.
Leroy
Laliberte: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Last month, the member from Cumberland and I had the
privilege of visiting the furthest north region of the province. This was a
special visit for me, Mr. Speaker, as we were able to really sit down with
northerners and hear their concerns and share regarding provincial matters.
We heard the concerns about the price of
groceries, amongst others, Mr. Speaker. They often travel together to ensure
safety, driving 10, sometimes up to 16 hours to get to the nearest city centre
to shop for bulk and to go back to the North. As they travel — again, 10 to 16
hours, mostly on winding gravel roads — in order to feed their families, most
of the people within the far North communities have invested in radios in order
to communicate with oncoming traffic and to make sure that everyone gets home safely,
Mr. Speaker, something my colleague and I had seen. This is what the people do
for survival, Mr. Speaker.
When we go home tonight, let’s remember
that the people in the furthest northern regions, northern communities, are
likely travelling today in order to get affordable groceries into their
community. And for more services, they’re taking their own measures to ensure
the road’s safety. To my constituents in the far northern communities, I want
to thank you for hosting my colleague and I. We are grateful for all you shared
with us. Mahsi cho. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Kindersley-Biggar.
Kim Gartner: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. I’m proud to announce that Saskatchewan’s resource sector continues to
set new records. A record 15.1 million metric tons of potassium oxide was
produced in 2024, an increase of 8 per cent from 2023. Mr. Speaker, as the
world’s leading potash producer, Saskatchewan accounts for approximately
one-third of global production.
But it’s not just our potash industry
that’s thriving. Our uranium industry continues to set records as well. Last
year uranium sales reached an impressive $2.6 billion, surpassing our
government’s ambitious 2030 target of $2 billion. Uranium production also
hit a remarkable 16.7 thousand tonnes, which is a 28 per cent increase from
2023. The resumption of operations at the McClean Lake mine, along with other
projects nearing construction, will further boost uranium production in our
province.
Mr. Speaker, uranium exploration
spending reached $200 million in 2024 and is estimated to rise in 2025,
helping us achieve our critical mineral strategy goal well ahead of schedule.
The uranium industry employs over 3,400 dedicated individuals and procures
hundreds of millions of dollars in goods and services from local businesses.
Mr. Speaker, these are remarkable
achievements. Our province is not just meeting expectations, we’re exceeding
them. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — This morning
Canadians woke up to a new federal government. Now it’s time to put the
election behind us, and it’s time to focus on building Saskatchewan’s future
within a united Canada. Yesterday, on election day, Donald Trump again
threatened the sovereignty of Canada. He urged voters to elect the leader who
would ensure that Canada becomes the 51st state. Mr. Speaker, these threats to
our country are not acceptable. They’re damaging and they have to stop.
Will the Premier stand in this House
today and condemn Donald Trump for his threats to Canadian sovereignty?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — I’ve been asked
many times with respect to, you know, comments that the president of the United
States makes, and I have said many times, Mr. Speaker, that we should take what
the president says very seriously. I don’t always take what the president says
literally, Mr. Speaker.
Most certainly what we are in this
nation — and we are part of this nation, Mr. Speaker — is a strong and
independent nation. And I watched with great interest last night the federal
election that we had, Mr. Speaker.
And I have made an offer to the new
Prime Minister, the new — I suppose you’d say somewhat new — Liberal
administration to reset the relationship with Saskatchewan so that we can
ensure the policies are in place, not just the words but the policies are in
place to ensure that Canada can become an energy superpower, as was stated in
his election campaign to ensure the policies are in place to attract investment
into the sectors that are creating jobs for people from corner to corner to
corner in this province, Mr. Speaker.
Most certainly that is the offer that
I’ve made to this new Prime Minister that was elected last night with his
minority administration, Mr. Speaker, and it’s the offer that we look forward
to engaging with.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Speaker, the
Premier has taken on a new, conciliatory tone. I note that. But the fact is
that the Premier’s own friends, like Preston Manning, have suggested that the
West would be better off separating from Canada should the Liberals gain
another mandate. Premier Smith has said that she will hold a referendum on
Alberta separating from the rest of the country.
Mr. Speaker, this is hurtful to our
economy, it plays into Trump’s hands, and it threatens the future of this
country. We need a united Canada more now than ever before. Will the Premier
stand in this House today and will he commit to Saskatchewan people that he
will never hold a vote on Saskatchewan leaving Canada?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Speaker, I
couldn’t agree more that we need a united Canada. What we saw last night was
the official takeover of the NDP [New Democratic Party] Party by the Liberal
Party of Canada. What we saw on full display was the division that we have in
this nation, the division that starts on the west side of Toronto and extends
right over the Rocky Mountains into the Lower Mainland of British Columbia,
including this province, of which voted 65 per cent not for the governing
party, Mr. Speaker.
And so it is incumbent on us, on us as
the Government of Saskatchewan, to represent Saskatchewan people, Mr. Speaker,
with the federal administration that we have. But it’s also incumbent on us to
do our level best to work with the federal government. And I would expect that,
as Saskatchewan is part of the nation of Canada, that we will have a new
beginning with this Prime Minister and his cabinet and his caucus, Mr. Speaker,
a new beginning that will treat Saskatchewan industry, Saskatchewan families, and
Saskatchewan communities most certainly like we are a part of Canada.
That’s the offer that I provided to the
Prime Minister this morning, Mr. Speaker. And I look forward to engaging with
him on Saskatchewan being treated like and being a full partner in the
Confederation of our nation.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Speaker, it
took awhile for the Premier to not answer the question. Now clearly, clearly
Canada can no longer rely on the US [United States] to be a stable trading
partner while he’s in the White House. And clearly in this country, we need
more rail lines, more pipelines, more power lines built across the country from
coast to coast to get our products to market.
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Now the federal government has certainly
failed to get this done. But, Mr. Speaker, so has the Sask Party. They’ve been
in power for 18 years. Why did this government, why did they neglect this
critical infrastructure and leave this province so vulnerable?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Speaker, when
this party was formed just over 25 years ago, there was eight founding
principles. And I would point all members — all citizens of the province — but
members on the floor of this Assembly to the eighth of those founding
principles that were put in place in 1997 when the Saskatchewan Party was
formed. The eighth one reads, and I quote, “The constant improvement of
Saskatchewan’s economic and social conditions within a strong and united
Canada.” It’s a very founding principle of this party, Mr. Speaker.
It’s very different from what we are
seeing from the members opposite, Mr. Speaker, as we see the completion of the
takeover of the NDP Party in Canada by the Liberal Party. Mr. Speaker, they are
now officially, officially . . . We are now seeing officially what we
have seen in practice through a confidence-and-supply agreement across this
nation, Mr. Speaker.
The Leader of the Opposition, the Leader
of the Opposition asks about why we don’t have pipelines built in this nation.
It’s because the NDP supported the Liberal Party every step of the way. It’s
because . . .
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Speaker, their inaction, their
willingness to play silly political partisan games while Saskatchewan people
hurt is having consequences. People in this province, people in this province
right now are more financially stressed than anywhere else in the entire
country. And families are facing serious economic challenges right now, Mr.
Speaker.
Right now we have punishing Chinese
tariffs on canola, on peas, on pork. The federal government should be making
this a priority to have those tariffs lifted, and that likely means, Mr.
Speaker, removing the tariffs on Chinese EVs [electric vehicle]. However all of
the federal parties, including the Conservatives, ran on keeping those Chinese
EV tariffs in place.
Today I ask the Premier: what will he do
to pressure both the federal Liberal government and the opposition
Conservatives to get these EV tariffs removed?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Like I’ve said,
Mr. Speaker, I’ve raised this with the previous prime minister, the current
Prime Minister. The Minister of Agriculture had actually raised this with the
previous Agriculture minister as early as last fall when the Chinese tariffs on
electric vehicles were applied — again an electric vehicle that nobody wants,
Mr. Speaker, protecting an industry in Canada of which there is nobody working
in.
So I would say this is a prime example,
Mr. Speaker, of where policies really do matter. Policies of different levels
of government really do matter. And we need to think, Mr. Speaker, and we need
to advocate with our federal parties with respect to what policies they’re
bringing in and what the actual impacts are going to be on Canadians.
All too often when there is some type of
a disagreement, either with China or India, it’s agricultural products that are
being hit, agricultural products that are disproportionately being produced in
the province of Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker. And it’s often due to policies that
are brought in by the Liberal government.
And as I said, and we see this in
northern Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker, with a Saskatchewan New Democrat running as
a Liberal, the takeover of the NDP Party in Canada is now complete.
Speaker
Goudy: — Sorry,
just one second. I’m just going to ask that . . . I think we were all
hurt as a province last night, and let’s keep our partisanship, saying things . . .
Well maybe not everybody was hurt, but there was a lot of Saskatchewan stirred
up last night and a lot of division. So we don’t want to see that in this
Chamber. This is a place where, I think, statements shouldn’t be made across
the way of the intent of one over the other.
So I recognize
the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Speaker, policies matter. So do programs that
deliver relief from the cost of living to Saskatchewan families. This Minister
of Education has made every excuse in the book as to why he couldn’t sign on to
the federal child care program. And, Mr. Speaker, we’re one of only two
provinces who’ve yet to do so. The other one is Alberta, and their premier
isn’t even sure that she wants to be part of the country.
Now the Sask
Party minister said that it was because of the federal election that he
couldn’t sign on to this important deal for Saskatchewan families. Well, Mr.
Speaker, the election is over.
Will that
government, will that government do what it already should have done? Will they
sign on to the national child care agreement?
Speaker Goudy: — I recognize the Minister of Education.
Hon. Everett
Hindley: — Thank you,
Mr. Speaker. I know there’s some new members in this Chamber, but the Leader of
the Opposition is not one of them. And she should know that the election was
just not even 12 hours ago. And they already expect that apparently there’s
been a cabinet appointed federally. It shows you how little they know about how
this actually works, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker,
this government remains committed to negotiating
a child care deal. We want to ensure that we get the best deal possible for
Saskatchewan families. Hearing from people right across this province, Mr.
Speaker . . .
[Interjections]
Speaker
Goudy: — Order. Let’s have some decorum so
that we can hear the conversations, the questions, the answers.
So please, Minister of Education.
Hon. Everett
Hindley: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Hearing from people right across this province who have
questions and concerns about the existing child care agreement. For example,
someone who’d said:
A child who turns
six ages out of the system. And very often a child who might be born early in
the year will turn six and not have a school to go to right away . . .
So those are pressures right there, challenges to the current system that we
have.
Who said that, Mr. Speaker? Member for
Saskatoon Meewasin in adjourned debates just a month ago. So these members
opposite, they would have us sign the exact same deal without . . .
Mr. Speaker, this is remarkable. These members opposite, they’d sign the exact
same deal the way it is. We’re going to make sure we get the best deal possible
for Saskatchewan families.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Elphinstone-Centre.
Meara Conway: — Mr. Speaker, the
Minister of Education is right that that is a gap in the child care agreement.
Many provinces have moved to fill it. He refused to. They haven’t put a single
extra dollar into child care since they signed that federal agreement. Stop pointing
fingers all the time.
Mr. Speaker, yesterday we asked
questions in this House about the 4,000 days of emergency room blackouts in
this province in the last five years — these are days when there was no health
care in Saskatchewan communities for those dealing with a medical emergency —
and in response that Minister of Health chose to talk about the virtual
physician program.
Does the minister think the virtual
physician program is an adequate substitute for a functioning hospital
emergency room?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think we can be very proud of the virtual physician
program that’s in communities all across the province, been used over 1,500
times in nearly 30 communities. This is a stabilization strategy, Mr. Speaker,
while we work to recruit staff to communities. This allows, while we’re waiting
to recruit staff or working on that, to continue making those services
available to local residents.
It isn’t the final solution, Mr.
Speaker, but it helps us ensure that people in the province, wherever they
live, have access to the care that they need.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Elphinstone-Centre.
Meara Conway: — Mr. Speaker, the question was whether
this is a substitute for open ER [emergency room] rooms. And I congratulate the
Minister of Health because he appears that he must have a perfect bill of
health. Because it doesn’t appear he’s spent a lot of time in an actual ER
room. The virtual physician program is meant to complement emergency rooms. It
is not meant to replace them when they’re closed because of lack of staff.
If
there are no doctors, no medical or lab techs, if there are no nurses, there is
no treatment. I mean, does the Minister of Health actually think that a virtual
physician can treat a broken leg, appendicitis, a heart attack, abdominal pain,
confusion, a sick kid, a mental health crisis virtually?
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
Minister of Health.
Hon. Jeremy Cockrill: — Mr. Speaker, if the member opposite
took the time to understand what the program is, she would understand, Mr.
Speaker . . .
Speaker Goudy: — Actually yes, that is . . .
Minister, please don’t . . . I’m sure that they’re working hard at
their job just like you are at yours. So, please.
Hon. Jeremy Cockrill: — Fair enough. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
And I’d take the opportunity . . . I’d be happy to speak directly to
the member opposite about the program and provide details to her at her
convenience, Mr. Speaker.
But,
Mr. Speaker, in these communities where the program is offered, we have
qualified health care professionals working on the front line and then working
with physicians virtually and through our HealthLine system to make sure that
they can get advice on how to care for the patient in front of them, Mr.
Speaker.
Again,
Mr. Speaker, this is all done as a stabilization strategy while we work to
continue to recruit and retain staff under the nation’s most ambitious health
human resources action plan. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
member from Regina Elphinstone-Centre.
Meara Conway: — Mr. Speaker, even better, I have been
talking to front-line health care workers about the program. And it wasn’t just
ER closures we were asking about, Mr. Speaker. We were asking about the 500
days of closures to obstetric wards when he touted the potential of virtual
physicians.
And
I’m just trying to wrap my head around that, Mr. Speaker. I’m going to need him
to break it down for me. A woman goes into labour. Her obstetric ward is
closed. She logs in to access a virtual physician. Like, how exactly does this
work? Where does the minister propose she position the webcam? What comes next,
Mr. Speaker?
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
Minister of Health.
Hon. Jeremy Cockrill: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker,
the question was about emergency rooms. I answered the question about emergency
rooms, talking about our virtual physician implementation program.
When
it comes to other disruptions that we may have in services or facilities right
across the province, I’ve spoken before in this House many times, including
yesterday, how again our most-ambitious-in-the-country health human resources
action plan is working to fill those positions, making sure that those services
are available to Saskatchewan residents closer to home when they need them, Mr.
Speaker.
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full-time positions filled through the rural and remote recruitment incentive,
Mr. Speaker, highly successful in communities right across the province. That’s
why, just a couple weeks ago, we added 16 more communities who are now eligible
under that incentive. We’ve heard positive feedback from people in those
communities, health care workers in those communities as we use these
incentives under our ambitious plan, Mr. Speaker, to make sure that staff can
be added and services can be bolstered. Thank you.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
member from Regina Elphinstone-Centre.
Meara Conway: — I think, Mr. Speaker, it sounds like we
can agree that a virtual physician is not a substitute for an open obstetric
ward. Hopefully we can agree that there are some cases where there is just no
substitute for in-person, well-staffed care.
And
all joking aside, this is serious stuff. Our obstetric wards have been closed
for 500 days; emergency rooms, 4,000 days across the province in the last five
years, Mr. Speaker. The people of La Loche, they need an emergency room. The
people of Shellbrook, they need an emergency room. The women of Saskatchewan do
not want to find themselves in the situation of Kendal Carlberg, who went into
labour, was turned away from her local hospital, and ended up giving birth on
the side of the road, Mr. Speaker.
Virtual
physicians can be used to complement the system in narrow situations, but
virtual care is not a substitute for virtually no care. It is not a replacement
for shuttered ER rooms.
So
again to the minister: what is the plan to address escalating health care
disruptions across Saskatchewan?
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
Minister of Health.
Hon. Jeremy Cockrill: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. There are
challenges in different communities that pop up now and then. Some of these
disruptions are very fluid and short term in nature. Most disruptions last less
than 24 hours, Mr. Speaker.
Again
what this comes down to is staffing and making sure that we have adequate staff
in our facilities to . . . Mr. Speaker, this is all about ensuring
that we have adequate staff in our facilities to make sure that when you or
many others around the province or your family needs that care, Mr. Speaker,
you can go into your local facility and receive that care.
Mr.
Speaker, I’ve spoken at length in this House many times, spoken in committee
about the efforts being made under our health human resources action plan.
These actions are showing results. That’s why we’re doubling down. We’re doing
more. We’re working on recruiting physicians from the United States, for
example, from all over the world, Mr. Speaker.
You
know, Mr. Speaker, the members opposite laugh. This is serious. This matters to
Saskatchewan people, and that’s why this government is working on it.
Speaker Goudy: — Member
from Meewasin and member from Cumberland, please come to order.
Next question. I recognize the member from Saskatoon
Nutana.
Erika Ritchie: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. At the beginning of April,
the private holding company Plantro Ltd. announced its interest in buying up to
15 per cent of shares in ISC [Information Services Corporation of
Saskatchewan]. Just yesterday they extended that offer for a second time, and
ISC is warning shareholders to reject them.
[14:30]
The Sask Party privatized ISC years ago, but CIC
[Crown Investments Corporation of Saskatchewan] still holds some of the shares. Plantro, meanwhile, is a private entity
registered in Barbados. If they acquire a controlling interest in ISC, they
will control Saskatchewan people’s data and their access to it. They’ll raise
fees for people and cut jobs and costs. Will the Minister for CIC speak out
against Plantro’s takeover bid?
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
Minister for CIC.
Hon. Jeremy Harrison: — Well thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
The member asked these questions in estimates a number of weeks ago. And she
knows what the answer is — I think all members do — which is that of course the
government can’t comment on the particulars of the circumstance. But what I can
tell you, Mr. Speaker, is that the government through our representatives on
the board will make sure that the best interests of the taxpayers of this
province are taken care of.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
member from Saskatoon Nutana.
Erika Ritchie: — Well, Mr. Speaker, there was a time
when that Sask Party government actually would speak up in favour of
Saskatchewan’s interests. You’ll recall in 2010 when Premier Brad Wall called
on the federal government to stop BHP’s takeover of the Potash Corporation of
Saskatchewan. And they did.
But
in 2025 that minister looks away and claims it’s none of his business. It is,
Mr. Speaker. It is government business. Will that Sask Party government stop
shying away from this issue and speak out against a foreign takeover of a
Saskatchewan company?
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
member of Crown Investments Corporation.
Hon. Jeremy Harrison: — Well, Mr. Speaker, as I had mentioned
in my previous answer, we fully canvassed this in committee a couple of weeks
ago. And the answer, as the member very well knows, is that it is not just
inappropriate; it’s probably illegal if I were to comment directly on the . . .
[inaudible interjection] . . . Well there you go. There you go, Mr.
Speaker. They know better, I guess. But it obviously would be inappropriate for
the minister to be commenting directly on that market transaction.
But
what I can tell you, Mr. Speaker, is that the best interests of the taxpayers
of the province are going to be represented through the board members that are
appointed by the Government of Saskatchewan.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
member from Saskatoon Nutana.
Erika Ritchie: — Right, Mr. Speaker, ISC was certainly
government business when the minister appointed and reappointed John Teal as
the Chair of the board. What did Mr. Teal have to say of this takeover? He and
the board described Plantro’s takeover attempt as “abusive and coercive.” Does
the minister stand by his appointee’s extreme concerns about this takeover?
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
Minister of Crown Investments Corporation.
Hon. Jeremy Harrison: — Well I think the member is making my
point, Mr. Speaker. The representatives of the Government of Saskatchewan
appointed by the government to serve on that board will act in the best
interest of the taxpayers of the province.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the member from Regina Douglas Park.
Nicole Sarauer: — Mr. Speaker, yesterday the Minister of
Corrections and Policing refused to disclose what exactly his suspended marshal
is being investigated for. Now the marshals service is accountable to that
minister, Mr. Speaker. In fact they created it to be exactly that way.
I
have a very simple question for the minister today: does he know what his
suspended marshal is being investigated for? Yes or no?
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
Minister of Policing and Corrections.
Hon. Tim McLeod: — Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. And
as I said yesterday I can confirm that the Public Complaints Commission is
investigating this matter, as they investigate all matters involving police
officers when allegations are made.
Those
allegations need to be proven before any inappropriate conduct has been
established, Mr. Speaker. And that’s why we have the Public Complaints
Commission in the first place. They are an independent, civilian-led
organization that handles complaints like this. They are at arm’s length from
the government. It would be inappropriate for the minister to comment on any
ongoing investigation while it is currently under way. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
member from Regina Douglas Park.
Nicole Sarauer: — Mr. Speaker, the minister didn’t even
touch my question, and it was a very, very simple one. Does he know what his
suspended marshal did? Yes or no?
Speaker Goudy: — I
recognize the
Minister of Policing and Corrections.
Hon. Tim McLeod: — Mr. Speaker, when a complaint is made
against any officer, whether it’s a municipal police officer, an RCMP [Royal
Canadian Mounted Police] officer, or a marshal, the minister’s office isn’t
involved in that. The complaint goes to an independent, civilian-led
organization called the Public Complaints Commission.
What
I can tell you is that what the people of this province deserve is more boots
on the ground. They deserve more police officers, and that’s what this
government is providing. We are adding more police officers, 70 new marshals,
100 new municipal officers. Mr. Speaker, our people in this province deserve
safer communities and that’s what this government is delivering. The members
opposite are left standing with a bag of inappropriate questions and a
marshal’s hat in hand. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
[The Assembly resumed the adjourned
debate on the proposed motion by the Hon. Eric Schmalz that Bill No. 21 — The Construction
Codes (Derelict Buildings) Amendment Act, 2025 be now read a second time.]
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Walsh Acres.
Jared Clarke: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. It’s an honour to be on my feet today to join into debate on Bill No. 21,
The Construction Codes (Derelict Buildings) Amendment Act, 2025. As the
shadow minister for Municipal Affairs I have been working hard to connect with
many stakeholders in regard to this bill and hear what things they like about
the bill and what things they don’t like about the bill, Mr. Speaker. I’m going
to kind of touch on a few of these pieces.
Certainly what I have heard, and our
team has certainly heard, is the need to address the derelict buildings across
the province. We understand, you know, when a small village is decommissioned
and an RM [rural municipality] takes over the derelict buildings in that small
community, those are a financial burden to those rural municipalities to deal
with. And we know that removal of those buildings can cost municipalities a lot
of money, and if you have a number of those derelict buildings in the RM, that
can cost the municipality a lot of money. And that goes for, you know, not only
RMs but also villages, towns, and even in cities, derelict buildings are a
concern.
So we certainly have heard the need to
address this. But, Mr. Speaker, we have a lot of and I’ve heard a lot of
concerns about this bill and what is in it and what is not in it. So right now
this bill gives the minister the authority to determine if a building is
derelict, and then the ability to actually demolish it by fire. What this bill
does not do is include any of the “how is that going to happen” or any of the
regulations.
And so many of the stakeholders that we
have talked to have shared concerns about having not been consulted with at all
on this bill so far. The government has said that they will do those
consultations in the lead-up to the regulations, but lots of folks continue to
have lots of questions.
One of the things that I would like to
just touch on before I allow the bill to pass on to the next stage, Mr.
Speaker, is really about the liability here. We’ve heard from some
municipalities that they used to burn derelict buildings, but they don’t do that
anymore because the insurance companies would not cover any liability. And so
we’re wondering, and we’ve asked the Assembly these questions around who is
liable if there is a derelict building that, you know, gets out of control and
burns an adjacent property that is still being inhabited. Who’s liable? We
haven’t heard those answers from the government, and I hope when we go to
committee here on this bill, that they will be able to provide some of those
answers.
One of the other things that we’ve
certainly heard is hazards for the firefighters. And I understand that the
minister wants this to be an opportunity for training. And we certainly agree
that training opportunities for volunteer firefighters, for volunteer
firefighting organizations, is important across this province. They do amazing
work. So many communities rely on them across the province, and it is important
for training opportunities.
However, in this Chamber we are
currently also discussing a bill that extends presumptive cancer cases for
wildfire firefighters. We did firefighters last year, and we’re expanding that
legislation this year. But we are passing legislation that literally says if
you get cancer as a firefighter, we assume that it’s because of your job.
Firefighters are being put in these
hazardous positions to keep community members safe, to keep property safe,
absolutely. And we really admire and respect the work that they do. But should
we be putting firefighters in more hazardous situations just because we want to
get rid of these derelict buildings?
There are other alternatives. Government
can give funding to municipalities to help deal with these derelict buildings.
Right now we know that SARM [Saskatchewan Association of Rural Municipalities]
has asked . . . In February, they put out a press release asking for
financial support from government to address these derelict buildings.
With this bill, Mr. Speaker,
government’s not putting any money into this. And so they’re wanting to allow,
you know, villages, municipalities, to be able to light these houses on fire,
but they haven’t actually supported municipalities financially to do this work.
So we have a lot of concerns.
We’ve heard from firefighters around
their concerns, around hazardous materials being still in these derelict
buildings. We’ve heard from the minister that those hazardous materials are not
going to be removed or won’t have to be removed. So things like asbestos,
things like asphalt shingles, things like lead, things like old batteries in
these buildings, they don’t have to be removed.
And again going to the liability piece
and the contamination piece, if we’re in a small town and there’s a derelict
building and the property adjacent to you or to the derelict building is
occupied by people, and we burn the building and hazardous materials
contaminate the yard of the adjacent building or the adjacent landowner, who’s
liable for that? Who is responsible for cleaning up that contamination? There’s
actually money in the Ministry of Environment’s budget around reclamation of
contaminated sites. So will municipalities then access that funding to
decontaminate the soil of these derelict buildings?
So I’m not going to speak to this a
whole lot longer, Mr. Speaker, but we continue to have important conversation
with stakeholders, and I look forward to asking some of these important
questions. Understand that a lot of the consultation is supposed to happen, or
the government wants to have happen during the regulation construction in this
policy. But we are hoping that they will be able to answer some of these
questions when we go to committee so Saskatchewan people can have clarity on
who’s liable, how are these hazardous materials being addressed, and also why
the government is not coming to the table with other financial supports to help
municipalities deal with derelict buildings.
So with that, Mr. Speaker, I am prepared
to let the bill pass to the next stage. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — The question before the Assembly is
the motion by the minister that Bill No. 21, The Construction Codes
(Derelict Buildings) Amendment Act, 2025 be now read a second time. Is it
the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — Carried.
Deputy
Clerk: — Second reading of this bill.
Speaker
Goudy: — To which committee shall this bill be committed? I
recognize the Minister of Justice.
Hon. Tim
McLeod: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker, to the Standing Committee on Intergovernmental Affairs
and Justice.
Speaker
Goudy: — This bill stands committed to the
Standing Committee on Intergovernmental Affairs and Justice. I recognize the
Government House Leader.
Hon. Tim
McLeod: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To facilitate the work of committees, I move that this
Assembly do now adjourn.
Speaker
Goudy: — It has been moved this Assembly do
now adjourn. Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to adopt the motion?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker
Goudy: — Carried. This Assembly now stands
adjourned until tomorrow at 1:30.
[The
Assembly adjourned at 14:45.]
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