CONTENTS
Coming Together to Observe Ramadan
Canadian Agricultural Safety Week
Constituents Mirror Canada’s Diverse Makeup
Positive Impacts of Aircrew Training Program
Health Care for Rural Residents
Statements by the Official Opposition
Canadian Sovereignty and Management of
Provincial Economy
Provincial
Budget and Management of Provincial Economy
Overdose Deaths and Treatment for Addictions
Saskatchewan Joins Governors Coalition for Energy Security
Canadian Sovereignty and Response to Tariffs
Recorded Division (main motion)
FIRST
SESSION — THIRTIETH LEGISLATURE
of
the
Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan
DEBATES
AND PROCEEDINGS
(HANSARD)
N.S. Vol. 66 No. 12A Thursday,
March 20, 2025, 10:00
[The
Assembly met at 10:00.]
[Prayers]
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Cut Knife-Turtleford.
James
Thorsteinson: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is my pleasure today to rise and introduce a number
of guests sitting in the west gallery, to you and through you to all members of
the Legislative Assembly.
First I would like to introduce a couple
of constituents. Mike and Jackie Gallon have joined us here today. They were
able to take in the budget yesterday. This is Mike’s first trip to the
legislature. He’s been enjoying it thoroughly. Mike works for CNRL [Canadian
Natural Resources Ltd.] in the oil field near home. And he is joined by his
wife, Jackie. I’ve mentioned Jackie before. She is my CA [constituency
assistant] and works very diligently keeping me on task and working well for
the constituents of Cut Knife-Turtleford. And I ask all members to welcome them
to their Legislative Assembly.
And while I’m on my feet, Mr. Speaker, I
would also like to welcome 33 grade 9 students from Maidstone High School,
which is in my hometown. These students travelled five hours down here to be
here today. And that’s quite a journey, and I thank them for coming. I’m
looking forward to some interesting discussion following question period, some
hard-hitting questions I’m sure.
I would also like to welcome their
teachers Natasha Wicks and Brad Lejeune. And I apologize if I get the
pronouncing of some of these names wrong. Some of them I know quite well. The
parent chaperones Justin Johner, Kelly McBinery, Leanne Doud, Rhonda Cammidge,
Kristin Shantz, Jayne Hutchison, and Nichole Blyth. Please help me welcome
these members to their Legislative Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatchewan Rivers.
Hon. Eric
Schmalz: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I have the honour of introducing a couple of
guests, to you and through you, very important people to the people of
Saskatchewan Rivers and the people of Rosthern-Shellbrook. They are the
constituency assistants for both those constituencies. For Rosthern-Shellbrook,
we have Ms. Sally Jacobson, who is no stranger to this House. And my
constituency assistant, Ms. Kristina Ross, recently moved to the area from
British Columbia along with her husband, who was my high school best friend. So
welcome them back.
In addition to their daily duties, the
heavy burden and workload that is taken on by our constituency assistants — I’m
sure many of the members around this Chamber would agree — these two
individuals have told me that one of them has the additional task of dealing
with a very high-maintenance and demanding MLA [Member of the Legislative
Assembly], but they wouldn’t tell me which one. So, Mr. Speaker, I would ask
all members to help me welcoming them to their Legislative Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from White City-Qu’Appelle.
Brad
Crassweller: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you, I’d like to welcome 24 grade 11
and 12 students from Greenall High School in my constituency, accompanied by
their teacher, Ms. Marley. So welcome here. I also want to give a quick little
shout-out here to Payton Lockie. Shelby works in the building here, and so a
special welcome to Payton. Thank you, Payton.
I want to thank Ms. Marley who brings a
class every year. And I’ve been to her class for a panel discussion, and we’re
going to be getting together with this group later on, but a phenomenal teacher
investing in our leaders of tomorrow. And so please join me in welcoming this
grade 11/12 class to their Legislative Assembly with their teacher Ms. Marley.
Thank you for coming.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Wood River.
Hon. David
Marit: —
Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you, I also would like to
introduce my constituency assistant. Sandy Ellert is here along with her
colleagues. She’s been my constituency assistant since I was first elected in
2016, and prior to that she was Yogi’s constituency assistant as well. But the
duties of a constituency assistant for some of us MLAs that are not home that
often, obviously handling a lot of cases. So I want everyone in the Assembly to
please welcome Sandy to her Legislative Assembly. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Thank you very
much, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you, I think I see a gentleman that has
just entered the Assembly. And I would like to say, to you and through you,
introduce the 23rd premier of Manitoba to the Assembly here today, Mr. Kelvin
Goertzen.
Mr. Speaker, I got to know Kelvin as he
served as a premier, starting in 2021 on our Council of the Federation calls.
You know, and we all know what we were doing and what we were discussing on the
Council of the Federation calls in 2021, during a very trying time for our
provinces, our nation and, I think, the world at that point in time.
I wanted to thank Kelvin very publicly
for his service as an MLA since 2003 for the constituency of Steinbach,
Manitoba. But also thank him for his service all throughout the various
positions that he has served in, but most particularly his service as the
premier of Manitoba during a very trying time and the leadership that he
provided for his party, for his province, and for the people in Manitoba.
I would also, as he’s in Saskatchewan,
ask him to change his allegiance from the Winnipeg Blue Bombers to the
Saskatchewan Roughriders. Mr. Speaker, more seriously, to all members of this
Assembly, I’d like to thank and welcome the 23rd premier of Manitoba, through
you to all members, and welcome him to the Saskatchewan Legislative Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. I’d like to join with the Premier in welcoming former premier Goertzen
to the Saskatchewan Legislative Assembly, and also thank you for your service
to the people of Manitoba at what was an incredibly difficult time. These
difficult times call for leadership, and I know it’s often taxing on those who
lead. Sincerely, on behalf of the official opposition I would like to again
thank you for your service and welcome you to this Legislative Assembly.
We’ll see if we’re persuasive in getting
him to wear a Riders jersey to the Labour Day game. But we can talk about that
later. I invite all members to join me in welcoming Premier Goertzen.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Carrot River Valley.
Terri Bromm: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. I want to today recognize, sitting beside here behind us, Fred
Bradshaw, who is no stranger to this Assembly. So for those of you who don’t
know Fred, he was my predecessor, a long-term serving member of this
Legislative Assembly from Carrot River Valley, great, great constituency of
Carrot River Valley.
And Terry’s a minister . . .
Sorry, he’s asking me to acknowledge, I think, his baking and cooking skills,
which we are very happy to be sharing in today as well. So please, thank you
again, Fred, for all of your hard work and your commitment, and welcome.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Mount Royal.
Trent
Wotherspoon: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It’s my real pleasure to welcome Fred Bradshaw to his
Assembly: a good friend in this legislature; a great community leader; a good,
strong MLA for many years; somebody who always brought a level of humanity and
humour to this legislature as well; someone that brought the best brownies and
butter tarts and even some sausage over the years, even to the opposition, Mr.
Speaker. This is a very fine individual. Also a fellow hunter and fisher, he
says, although I’ve never heard anyone from his riding ever claim that he’s
ever caught anything or hit anything, Mr. Speaker. But it’s a real honour to
welcome my good friend Fred Bradshaw to his Assembly.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from White City-Qu’Appelle.
Brad
Crassweller: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you, I’d also like to introduce to
you in our west gallery here my constituency assistant, Nicole
Entner-McCullough, who does a fantastic job in our constituency office. She’s
in her 18th year as an assistant. And she’s just a phenomenal lady, phenomenal
person, phenomenal community person. And so, Nicole, I welcome you and we
welcome you to your Legislative Assembly. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Westview.
April
ChiefCalf: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To you and through you, I would like to introduce my
constituency assistant, Zachary Nelson. I promised him I wouldn’t do this
today, but here we go. And I just want to welcome him to the Legislative
Assembly today and to thank him for all the work that he does to assist the
residents of Saskatoon Westview and me as well. Welcome.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the member from
Lumsden-Morse.
Blaine McLeod: — Thank you, Mr.
Speaker. We, the undersigned residents of the province of Saskatchewan, wish to
bring to your attention the following: that the province of Saskatchewan
exported over 4.3 billion in goods to China in 2024; nearly 1 billion
of these exports are in canola products; further, that the devastating 100 per
cent tariff on Canadian-produced canola, pork, and peas by China will have a
disproportionate effect on Saskatchewan producers and the province’s economy.
These new tariffs are anticipated to begin on March 20th.
We, in the prayer
that reads as follows, respectfully request that the Legislative Assembly of
Saskatchewan take the following action: that the Government of Canada take
immediate action to remove the harmful tariffs on canola, pork, and peas that
are disproportionately affecting the producers and farmers of the province of
Saskatchewan; that the federal government immediately engage in meaningful
dialogue with representatives of the Chinese government to eliminate tariffs
that harm Saskatchewan producers.
The below undersigned are residents of
Borden, Regina, and Canora. I do so present.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Coronation Park.
Noor Burki: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We, the undersigned
residents of the province of Saskatchewan, wish to bring to your attention the
following: that Saskatchewan has the highest suicide rate among the other
provinces; that Indigenous people die by suicide at the rate of four times
higher than non-Indigenous people in Saskatchewan; that Saskatchewan continues
to break its own records in overdose deaths, with 484 suspected or confirmed
overdose deaths in 2023; that one in four youth in Saskatchewan have reported
having engaged in self-harm at some point; that one in four youth reported to
have considered suicide in the past year, with 9.7 per cent having attempted;
and that the child and youth advocate in her 2022 reports noted that long wait
times and insufficient mental health and addictions services are leaving many
children and youth without access to the care when they need it.
We, in the prayer that reads as follows, respectfully request the
Legislative Assembly of Saskatchewan to call on the Government of Saskatchewan
to work with experts and community leaders on evidence-based solutions to the
mental health and addictions crisis in Saskatchewan.
The
signatories of this petition reside in Hudson Bay, Marcelin, and Prince Albert.
I do so present.
Speaker Goudy: — I recognize the member from Saskatoon
Silverspring.
[10:15]
Hugh Gordon: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We, the undersigned
residents of the province of Saskatchewan, wish to bring to your attention the
following: that the Truth and Reconciliation Commission’s Calls to Action from
2015 included Call no. 80, which called upon the federal government, in collaboration with
Aboriginal peoples, to establish as a statutory holiday a National Day for
Truth and Reconciliation to honour survivors, their families, and communities,
and ensure the public commemoration of the history and legacy of residential
schools remains a vital component of the reconciliation process.
That Bill C‑5, the legislation to
establish the National Day for Truth and Reconciliation, received Royal Assent
on June 3rd 2021, making the National Day for Truth and Reconciliation an
official federal statutory holiday, first marked on September 30th of 2021; that
most workers of Saskatchewan, unless they work for the federal government or in
select few workplaces that recognize the importance of the National Day for
Truth and Reconciliation do not get any time off on September 30th or special
wage rates when required to work on that day; that the people and institutions
of Saskatchewan still have significant work ahead in the journey toward
reconciliation.
We, in a prayer
that reads as follows, respectfully request the Legislative Assembly of
Saskatchewan call on the Government of Saskatchewan to make September 30th a
public statutory holiday in Saskatchewan in recognition of the National Day for
Truth and Reconciliation.
The signatories of the petition, Mr.
Speaker, are from Saskatoon. I do so submit.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the member from
Saskatoon University-Sutherland.
Tajinder
Grewal: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I rise to present a
petition to protect Saskatchewan’s water supply.
We, the
undersigned residents of the province of Saskatchewan, wish to bring to your
attention the following: that water is essential for human health, recreation,
health of our ecosystems, and our economy; that research from the University of
Regina shows that water quality of Saskatchewan’s lakes is getting worse; that
the Provincial Auditor has pointed out that Saskatchewan’s lack of a wetland
policy negatively affects water quality and that significant
work remains to better regulate drainage; and the provincial government needs
to take an active role in opposing policies that have downstream impacts on
Saskatchewan rivers and deltas.
We, in the prayer
that reads as follows, respectfully request that the Legislative Assembly of
Saskatchewan actively protect Saskatchewan waters from current and future
threats to our valuable water supply.
The petition has been signed by people
from Saskatoon. I do so present.
Speaker Goudy:
— I recognize the member from Carrot River Valley.
Terri Bromm: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. This week,
March 17th to 22nd, is Social Work Week in Saskatchewan. This year’s theme is
Social Work is Everywhere. Mr. Speaker, social workers play an important role
in supporting and enhancing the well-being of individuals and communities.
There are over 3,000 registered social
workers in our province. These dedicated individuals work across multiple
sectors, including health care, education, justice, child welfare, disability
services, community-based organizations, and private practice. Their work
addresses complex social issues such as mental health challenges, family
crises, and community development.
Mr. Speaker, our government thanks and
recognizes social workers providing crucial programs and services to help their
clients overcome complex challenges. These vital supports assist individuals
and families during some of the most difficult times in their lives.
I also want to take a moment to
recognize and thank the Saskatchewan Association of Social Workers for
promoting and governing the profession of social work in this province. Social
work is a rewarding but challenging profession. Please join me in celebrating
Social Work Week and thanking all social workers for the important work they
do. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Coronation Park.
Noor Burki: — Thank you,
Mr. Speaker. As a Muslim MLA from Regina Coronation Park, where we have a
growing Muslim community, I’m so proud to rise to recognize the holy month of
Ramadan.
Every Ramadan,
Muslims around the world fast from sunrise to sunset. It is to honour God, to
practise self-discipline, and reflect on many blessings that we have in our
lives, like food, shelter, and water — blessings we should all be grateful for.
Ramadan reminds us of important values like generosity, kindness, unity, and
respecting others. It’s a chance for all of us to come together, no matter
where we come from.
Mr. Speaker,
I’m honoured to represent such a strong, compassionate, and generous community.
I would like to extend blessings and sincere wishes of health and happiness to
all those who celebrate, and I thank the Muslim community for all the hard work
they do to make Saskatchewan a vibrant and welcoming place.
I invite all
members to join me and recognize the holy month of Ramadan. Ramadan Mubarak.
Ramadan Kareem.
Speaker Goudy: — I recognize the member from Kelvington-Wadena.
Chris Beaudry: — Thank you,
Mr. Speaker. I rise today to recognize March 16th to 22nd as Canadian
Agricultural Safety Week. This week serves as an important reminder of the
critical need for safety in agriculture and our shared responsibility to
protect those who work to help feed the world.
Agriculture is essential to our economy and a way of life for many in this
province, but it comes with risks, from working long hours on heavy machinery
to handling large livestock.
Mr. Speaker, farm safety isn’t just a
priority for this week. It’s a commitment we must uphold every day. By
investing in proper protective equipment and mental health supports, we can
help prevent injuries and save lives.
The Government of Saskatchewan proudly
supports Canadian Agricultural Safety Week. We’re proud to wear Agricultural
Safety Week ribbons to demonstrate support for producers and raise awareness
among the general public.
I’d like to thank the Canadian
Agricultural Safety Association for their dedication to this cause. Their work
plays a key role in protecting producers and agriculture workers across Canada.
To our producers, your safety matters on
and off the farm. Thank you for your hard work. Let’s continue working to make
agriculture safer for everyone, not just this week but every day. Thank you,
Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Wascana Plains.
Brent Blakley: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. During this
time I would like to highlight the constituency that I represent in this
Legislative Assembly, the constituency of Regina Wascana Plains and the people
that live there. I would like to acknowledge these folks for their attention
before and during the recent election. I thank them for their involvement,
engagement, input, and support in the campaign.
There’s just a little fact about Regina
Wascana Plains. And I’m sure the members opposite have probably read this in
our newsletter, The Commonwealth, the fact that street names in Wascana
Plains, 77 street names begin with either “Wascana” or “Green,” which was so
much fun around door-knocking time — 39 Green and 38 Wascana.
The folks from Wascana Plains come from
many different cultural and religious backgrounds, which mirrors Canada’s rich
and diverse makeup. They help keep this city and province running. New
Canadians have come to Wascana Plains from the Philippines, Pakistan, India,
Bangladesh, Central and South America, and the African continent, just to name
a few. The citizens here are young professionals, those that work in the
trades, health care workers, and educators. They work in the retail and service
industry, and all of them contribute to the fabric of this constituency and
this province.
I’m here today on a promise, a promise
to represent and advocate for all people of Regina Wascana Plains and all
people of Saskatchewan to the best of my effort and ability. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Moose Jaw Wakamow.
Megan
Patterson: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am thrilled to highlight a program that will have an
enormous impact on the city of Moose Jaw. The future aircrew training program,
also known as FAcT, was awarded to SkyAlyne Canada in May 2024. This 25‑year,
$11.2 billion contract will modernize the Royal Canadian Air Force in a
significant way. This investment is part of the largest investment made in our
Royal Canadian Air Force since the Second World War.
This contract will include aircraft,
simulator, and classroom training. It will also include aircraft, airfield
maintenance, accommodations, and food services. Over the next 25 years the FAcT
program is expected to create about 3,400 jobs nationally and contribute over
$400 million to Canada’s GDP [gross domestic product]. This training for
pilots, air combat officers, and sensor operators will be conducted at 15 Wing
Moose Jaw, Portage la Prairie, and at 17 Wing. 15 Wing Moose Jaw is expected to
benefit from about 4 billion in contract spending, just over one-third of
the total contract.
As a point of pride at this point I want
to mention that our current city manager, Maryse Carmichael, was the first
woman to join the Snowbirds and then became the first commander of the
Snowbirds that was female. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Elphinstone-Centre.
Meara Conway: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Today I’ll be
reading a statement in from a concerned paramedic working in Shellbrook.
The ongoing service disruptions at the
Parkland Integrated Health Centre in the Premier’s constituency of Shellbrook
are jeopardizing patient care, delaying emergency medical services, and pushing
health care workers beyond their limits. PIHC [Parkland Integrated Health
Centre] frequently closes its emergency room due to short staff, forcing
patients to travel nearly 50 kilometres to Victoria Hospital in P.A. [Prince
Albert]. Minimal notice, often just a sign on the door, leaves families unaware
until they arrive in crisis. The extra distance drains emergency services,
delays critical care, and overwhelms already burdened health care facilities.
The impact of these disruptions at PIHC
extends far beyond Shellbrook, Mr. Speaker, affecting rural communities that
rely on it as their primary health care facility. All rural residents deserve
reliable health care, not temporary fixes or empty promises. Contract nurses
provide only short-term relief, and they contribute to low morale overall.
Long-term solutions must prioritize training, education, and incentives to
bring more health care professionals into the system. Action is needed now
before things get worse.
Health care promises should not be
limited to election years or made only when seeking votes only to be forgotten
afterwards. Commitments to change must be genuine, implemented with
accountability, and lead to measurable improvements in our health care system.
Sadly, Mr. Speaker, this budget will leave rural communities feeling further
taken for granted by members opposite and, in particular, the Premier.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Cut Knife-Turtleford.
James
Thorsteinson: —
Mr. Speaker, former Ag minister and our friend, Bob Bjornerud, once famously
said, you can say anything in opposition. The NDP [New Democratic Party]
opposition is taking that statement to heart.
They now say they want pipelines built.
They voted against Northern Gateway and Keystone XL pipelines. They now say
they’re against the carbon tax. They stood in this Chamber and voted for it,
and called our court challenge on that tax a pointless crusade. They now say we
should improve highway infrastructure to help get our exports to market. They
were and still are against the improvements we made for commercial truck
traffic to navigate in and around Regina and make access to Highway 1 easier.
They now say we should engage
internationally to expand our export markets. Their 2024 campaign platform
promised to close our international trade offices. They criticized our
international trade travel and they filibustered five hours on a vote to support
free trade through the Trans-Pacific Partnership. They voted against support
for CETA [Canada-European
Union Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement],
a trade agreement between Canada and the EU [European Union].
On this side of the House we don’t need
the threat of President Trump’s trade war to act on all of these things. Our
priorities have been clear and consistent for 18 years, unlike the NDP who
changed their mind 18 days ago. Bob was right — you can say anything in
opposition.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Speaker, yesterday, in front of
full galleries in this Assembly here to see the provincial budget introduced,
the Premier refused to condemn the repeated comments by Donald Trump about
making Canada the 51st state. Mr. Speaker, this is simply table stakes at this
time of crisis.
[10:30]
Why wouldn’t the Premier condemn these
attacks on our sovereignty, and why won’t he stand up to Donald Trump?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I was
fairly certain we were in the same room yesterday, a filled Legislative
Assembly where what I saw was a government introduce a balanced budget on
behalf of the people of this province, a budget that . . .
[Interjections]
Speaker
Goudy: — Order.
Hon. Scott Moe: — A budget that delivered on behalf of
Saskatchewan people when it comes to ensuring our province remains the most
affordable province in Canada, delivered with respect to health care, delivered
with respect to education, and ensuring our communities are safe, Mr. Speaker.
With respect to . . .
[Interjections]
Speaker
Goudy: — Okay, I’m just going to make a
comment in the beginning that we will have order. We have our students here.
Welcome here again. We recognized you in the beginning, and we’re going to
recognize them that they’re here. And we’re going to have decorum in this
place, and we’re going to ask questions, give answers, and we’re going to
listen. Thanks.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Speaker, a balanced budget puts our
province in a very unique position in Canada, a position, I would say, of
strength with dealing and providing stability for Saskatchewan residents as we
face very unstable times, yes, by our largest trading partner with the comments
that are coming about Canada being a 51st state. Canada will never be a 51st
state, Mr. Speaker.
And to answer the Leader of the
Opposition’s question, Mr. Speaker, any comments in that realm are not only
condemned by me, the majority if not all of Canadians, and many, many Americans
as well, Mr. Speaker, as we understand and value the trade relationship that we
have in North America, the role that we play in Saskatchewan in providing food
and energy security for not only North Americans but for many other countries
around the world.
And so what I saw yesterday on the floor
of this Assembly was a Finance minister, Deputy Premier, rise to his feet and
deliver a balanced budget on behalf of the people of this province, putting us
in a very unique position of strength in this nation.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Speaker, we are certainly in a
unique position in this province. We have a premier who was the last out of the
gates, the last out of the gates to respond to the tariffs, that had the
weakest language to respond to these tariffs. And now it took him two days to
even condemn Donald Trump’s comments about making us the 51st state. Mr.
Speaker, it blows my mind.
The weak and meek response of that
Premier is simply disappointing, to say the least, to people across this
province. Now later this morning, I’m going to present a motion in this
Assembly, and the Premier will have another chance to stand with us, united
against these senseless and unprovoked attacks against our sovereignty.
Will he stand up for Saskatchewan and
for Canada, or will he shut that motion down later today?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Speaker, what we see here today is
the Leader of the Opposition standing up, complaining about the words of
another national leader, Mr. Speaker, of which I previously condemned as many
other Canadians do, by using words.
What Canadians and I would say
Saskatchewan families are looking for are not words, not rhetoric. They’re
looking for a plan, Mr. Speaker. They’re looking for a plan, a plan that I
would say has been in place since November the 7th, 2007 in the province of
Saskatchewan. A plan . . .
[Interjections]
Speaker
Goudy: — Order.
Hon. Scott Moe: — A plan, Mr. Speaker, to continue to engage on behalf
of the industries that are creating wealth for Saskatchewan families and
communities across this province. A plan, Mr.
Speaker, to support vital infrastructure projects and the operation of those
infrastructure projects, whether it be new pipelines, whether it be rail,
whether it be our port infrastructure, Mr. Speaker.
A plan to
align, more recently, with other provinces on countermeasures in each of our
provinces, which you do see aligned across the nation of Canada, Mr. Speaker,
to address the very real threat that is coming with not only USA [United States
of America] tariffs, but counter-tariffs from our federal government and
Chinese tariffs on canola.
We are in very
unprecedented times. Thank goodness we are in the province of Saskatchewan
where we are provided the stability of a balanced budget, the strength that
that budget puts us in, Mr. Speaker, to provide all that Saskatchewan people
have asked for and ensure we are in a strong position when it comes to dealing
with the tariffs that are being imposed by three different entities as we speak
here today.
Speaker Goudy: — I recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Speaker, once again, once again our Premier is a
day late and more than a dollar short. This should not be hard, Mr. Speaker, to
condemn these attacks on our province and on our country. It should be easy to
do.
But planning for tariffs is a different story. That’s
why yesterday’s budget failed to focus on the future, failed to respond to the
realities that Saskatchewan people, that
this country are facing today. The Sask Party budget contains nothing to
protect Saskatchewan people and industry from tariffs. There’s no contingency,
no plan to respond to the damage that these tariffs will do to people in this
province.
Why is the
Premier leaving Saskatchewan people completely on their own in the face of this
enormous threat?
Speaker Goudy: — I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Speaker,
just to go back to the previous question, we are going to have the opportunity
to debate Saskatchewan’s tariff plan today, our plan for Saskatchewan people —
not just words — our plan and putting that plan into action. I would say much
of that plan has been in action since 2007.
And we will
have the opportunity to stand together and make a very real statement from this
province, Mr. Speaker — to the world, to North Americans, and to our federal
government as well — on the position of strength that Saskatchewan is coming
from in this conversation that is so very serious for Saskatchewan people in
communities across the province.
As I said,
over the last 18 years this has been this government that has supported those
vital infrastructure projects, Mr. Speaker. It’s that opposition that has voted
against them, those very pipeline projects, on the floor of this Assembly,
whether it be Northern Gateway, whether it be Keystone XL, Mr. Speaker. It’s
this . . .
[Interjections]
Speaker
Goudy: — Order. I’m noticing a few voices
over the rest, and I think you know who you are. Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Mr. Speaker, it has been this
government that has invested in those trade relationships around the world
through our missions that the former premier, myself, multiple ministers of
Trade and Export, and ministers of Agriculture and Energy have taken. It’s the
trade offices that we have opened to enhance our opportunities, to ensure we
have that market share, to gain new market share, and we now have nine markets
with over a billion dollars of exports.
It’s that opposition, Mr. Speaker, that
has at every opportunity criticized that investment and said it’s not
necessary, asked us to make those Zoom calls from our basement. Eighteen years
we have been focused very much on ensuring that Saskatchewan’s economy is in a
place of strength. And it is today. Tripling our export value wouldn’t have
happened under the members opposite, Mr. Speaker. It took the election of
President Trump for them to change their values in the last 18 days.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Mount Royal.
Trent
Wotherspoon: —
What a weak response from a leader that’s been weak in front of these threats,
who’s been missing in action, and who’s failing Saskatchewan people. And that’s
on full display with this budget.
Speaker
Goudy: — You can call a response “weak,” but
not the person “weak.” Thank you.
Trent
Wotherspoon: — Weak
response. A failed budget. It doesn’t focus on the future. It’s not even based
in reality. This budget has no plan for our economy and pretends like the last
three months and the threats haven’t even happened. No measures to protect
workers, ag producers, industries, our economy, with respect to the tariffs.
How can that Sask Party government be so
reckless, bringing forward a budget with nothing at all to protect Saskatchewan
from these threats?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Finance.
Hon. Jim
Reiter: —
Mr. Speaker, that just simply isn’t the case. Mr. Speaker, the member opposite
criticizes, says there should be a contingency in the budget like some of the
other provinces, which are just simply putting a contingency in. That increases
the amount of their deficit.
We’re fighting this from a position of
strength. We’re in a strong fiscal position, Mr. Speaker, so that we can
weather any potential long-term tariffs, which are ridiculous. We should be a
free market country, a free market continent, Mr. Speaker. It’s good for
Saskatchewan; it’s good for Canada. Good for the United States and Mexico as
well.
Mr. Speaker, the member opposite was
criticizing the Premier, talking about his response. This is the leader who led
trade missions around the world to expand our markets, which the members
opposite criticized. This is the leader — the Premier — who opened trade
offices in our major trading networks and expanded trade around the province
from $17 million a few years ago to 45 million, Mr. Speaker. That
member should apologize.
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the member from Regina
Mount Royal.
Trent
Wotherspoon: —
Clearly we need to expand trade in a much more significant way, and we have to
build the transport infrastructure — rail and port capacity and pipeline
capacity to get there — another area this government has failed. But this
budget, you know, it fails the moment and the challenges we face.
Other provincial governments have
stepped up on this front with their budgets, Mr. Speaker. BC [British
Columbia], Alberta, Nova Scotia, you know, they all have contingency funds to
deal with this challenge. Nothing from this government, just a couple pages in
there basically to say that they have no plan. And they don’t even incorporate
the impacts, the fiscal and economic impacts of the tariffs, into the budget.
Mr. Speaker, as a result, this budget’s
like the greatest work of fiction. How does the Finance minister expect
Saskatchewan people to believe his budget when it’s so completely out of touch
with reality?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Finance.
Hon. Jim
Reiter: —
Mr. Speaker, I have already addressed on the contingency side, the best way to
prepare for that is to be in a sound fiscal position, so we can meet it with a
position of strength. And that’s exactly what we’re doing.
The member opposite’s comments about
infrastructure, though, Mr. Speaker, if it wasn’t so sad, it would be amusing.
They were opposed to pipelines. They were opposed to trade offices. They were
opposed to the Premier’s trade missions, which is all in Hansard. It’s
on public record. Now suddenly in the last 18 days, they’ve discovered the
importance of having other markets around the world. They’ve discovered the
importance of pipelines, Mr. Speaker. Well welcome aboard, folks, but it’s a
long time coming.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina Mount Royal.
Trent
Wotherspoon: —
Mr. Speaker, he wants to talk about our fiscal position, from the government
that quadrupled our province’s debt. You know, that Finance minister had a real
opportunity with his first budget in this important role at this critical time,
a real opportunity to show some leadership and offer some reassurances to the
people of this province, to the producers of this province. But he failed.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Finance.
Hon. Jim
Reiter: —
Mr. Speaker, the Finance critic covered a wide range of issues in that
question. I’ll cover the ones that come to mind. First and foremost, the
protecting people — the best way to do that is on affordability measures.
There’s a lot of affordability measures in this budget, new and also the ones
existing. Two billion in every budget over the last number of years, Mr.
Speaker.
The one that comes to mind most
frequently, Mr. Speaker, is income tax cuts. That’s what helps the people of
this province. It lets them keep more of their money in their pockets to spend
in the areas that they think are most important. That’s what’s important to the
people of this province, plus the attention to health care and education and
safety, Mr. Speaker.
The member was talking about debt. On
debt, Mr. Speaker, that’s for capital costs. That’s for hospitals and schools,
Mr. Speaker, because we have to serve a bigger population. Just announced
yesterday by Stats Canada — one and a quarter million people. Never would have
happened under the NDP.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Deputy Leader of the Opposition.
Vicki Mowat: — Mr. Speaker, health care in
Saskatchewan is dead last. People are facing the longest waits in ERs [emergency
room] and surgeries, and women are being sent out of province to get the care
they need. That’s if they can afford it. Emergency rooms close without warning.
Front-line workers are burnt-out. I could go on.
[10:45]
And yet on page 27 of the Sask Party
government’s bogus budget, it’s very clear that health care is being cut.
8.022 billion was spent last year. 8.004 billion is being spent this
year. Can the Minister of Health rise in this House and tell people of
Saskatchewan how he can justify cutting health care even further?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Health.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: —
Mr. Speaker, the member opposite will note that the budgeted number that we
presented yesterday in the provincial budget is higher than last year’s
budgeted number. Last year’s actual . . .
[Interjections]
Speaker
Goudy: — Order.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: —
Last year’s actual forecast recognized utilization pressures that we saw within
the health care system, Mr. Speaker, because we know how important it is to
provide care to Saskatchewan people when and where they need it.
For the opposition to say that what
we’re seeing is a cut in health care, Mr. Speaker, tell that to the 10,000
families that will now have their continuous glucose monitors covered for those
living with diabetes. Tell that to the 12 families in Meadow Lake who will now
have access to more dialysis services in Meadow Lake. Tell that to the 12
families in Fort Qu’Appelle who will have access to more dialysis services, Mr.
Speaker.
What we’re seeing in this year’s budget,
Mr. Speaker, for health care is not a cut. It is an expansion of services to
give care to Saskatchewan people when and where they need it.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Fairview.
Vicki Mowat: — It would appear that the Minister of
Health doesn’t understand his own budget, Mr. Speaker. It’s basic math —
$17.1 million less this year than last year.
Saskatchewan Union of Nurses president,
Tracy Zambory, called the budget profoundly disappointing. She added that there
is nothing in this budget to make nurses want to stay here in Saskatchewan
where we so desperately need them.
Did the minister sleep through his
budget deliberations, or does he simply not care about Saskatchewan’s
front-line health care workers?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
appreciate good questions, but let’s be careful on casting aspersions. Minister
of Health.
Hon. Jeremy
Cockrill: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. You know, I would note when
it comes to supporting front-line health care workers in this province, part of
the actual spend in the previous fiscal year was really around one-time
payments on back pay for contracts to health care workers in this province,
recognizing their importance in our system and making sure that we continue to
be an attractive place to practise here in Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker,
when it comes to enhancing opportunities for front-line health care workers,
and especially nurses in particular, I would note in the budget presented
yesterday, enhancing 65 nursing positions in 30 rural communities to ensure
that folks in our province whether they live in a small city or a large city,
Mr. Speaker, that there are nursing positions in their community so that they
can have care close to home.
I would draw
attention to the 27 nurse practitioner positions newly funded in this budget,
Mr. Speaker, to ensure that your family, my family, other families in this
province have access to a primary care provider.
Speaker Goudy: — I recognize the member from Saskatoon Centre.
Betty
Nippi-Albright: — Mr. Speaker, Saskatoon is in a drug overdose
crisis. The fire department reports 19 overdoses a day, nearly 400 this month
alone. And those are just the overdoses we know about. I know there are so many
more that go unreported.
Earlier this
month, Mr. Speaker, I attended three funerals for young people under 20 years
old who died of drug overdose. They had their whole life ahead of them.
To the
minister: how many more of our young people, our future, will
die before you take responsibility and do something about it?
Speaker
Goudy: — I recognize the Minister of Remote
and Rural Health.
Hon. Lori Carr: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker,
every loss of life due to overdose is a tragedy, and I extend my condolences to
all of those who have felt the impact of overdoses, drug toxicity, and
addictions. It is important to remember that no illicit drugs are safe, and
there is no safe . . . of illicit drugs, Mr. Speaker.
We are very concerned about the recent
increase of overdoses in Saskatoon and area and the impact that it is having on
individuals, families, and the community at large, Mr. Speaker. We’ve been
engaging with Mayor Block in the city of Saskatoon. Most recently the
Saskatchewan Public Safety Agency, the Ministry of Health, the city of
Saskatoon’s emergency management organization office have been meeting to
discuss measures to address the significant increase in overdoses over the past
few weeks and the impacts that it’s having on police, ambulance, and the health
in Saskatoon. As a result of these discussions, the Saskatchewan Public Safety
Agency has activated a provincial emergency operations centre. Thank you, Mr.
Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Centre.
Betty
Nippi-Albright: —
Mr. Speaker, this government is choosing to fund virtual treatment, which we
know does not work. I’m a recovering alcoholic and a former addictions
counsellor, so I know that doesn’t work. How is Zoom going to help somebody
recover from drug addiction? Nothing in this budget addresses that.
How many people are going to have to
die? How many? So many more will die because this government won’t act. Will
the minister stand and tell the families who have lost loved ones that died
from drug overdose why she continues to fail so badly in her job?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Mental Health and
Addictions.
Hon. Lori Carr: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I do thank
the member opposite for the question, Mr. Speaker. And as I said in my previous
answer, every loss of life from an overdose is a tragedy.
Mr. Speaker, we as a government have
been moving to something called a recovery-oriented system of care. It is a
program that takes that individual, embraces them in a treatment centre, and
will work with them, whether that be 28 days, 60 days, 90 days — whatever it
takes for that individual, Mr. Speaker.
And then they have the opportunity to
move into sober living, where they will be wrapped around with supports, with
the whole goal of having them get back into their communities. Because what we
want to see for our families are these individuals living healthy, safe lives
back in their communities. It’s all about the individual and the families that
they’re going to return to and live in those communities as healthy
individuals, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Eastview.
Matt Love: — Mr. Speaker, this budget cuts money
from health care, this budget cuts money from mental health, and this budget
cuts from education. It’s right there in black and white. There’s less money
for education in this year’s budget compared to what was spent last year. The
Sask Party government simply is not focused on the future.
Does the minister really believe that
cuts are the solution to the crisis that his government created in our
classrooms?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Education.
Hon. Everett
Hindley: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And to correct the member opposite, there has not been
a cut. There is a continued investment into education — more support for
classrooms, more support for teachers and educational assistants and other
professionals in the education sector, and most importantly more support for
our students.
This education budget builds on last
year’s record increase of 8.8 per cent, Mr. Speaker, for school divisions with
an increase of $186.4 million, which is another 8.4 per cent over the
previous record budget in education. This budget delivers on our Throne Speech
commitment to add more specialized support classrooms, Mr. Speaker, by adding
the first 50 of the 200 that we’re going to be doing over the next four years.
And, Mr. Speaker, there is funding
attached to improving K to 3 [kindergarten to grade 3] literacy, which is going
to be so important to help support the teachers to make sure that students in
our classrooms right across Saskatchewan have every opportunity to succeed in
class right from day one and all the way through K [kindergarten] to career.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Saskatoon Westview.
April
ChiefCalf: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this budget does nothing to support our
kids and nothing to support the most vulnerable people in our communities. We
are in a homelessness and housing crisis in this province. Rent prices have
skyrocketed in Saskatoon, up 10 per cent just this last year. And with 2,500
vacant Sask Housing units across this province, this government wants to pat
itself on the back for planning to repair only 285 of those.
Mr. Speaker, how can this government
continue to ignore this housing crisis which is so visible in our communities?
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the Minister of Social Services.
Hon. Terry
Jenson: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. When it comes to affordable homes and social housing,
this government takes that issue very seriously. In this budget we have
committed additional dollars for renovations and repairs to homes in Saskatoon,
Regina, Prince Albert, and other centres around the province. There are 285
going to be started very shortly. That is going to add to the inventory that we
have available.
Vacancy rates in Regina have actually
decreased over the last few months, and that’s something that tells us that
we’re doing the right thing when it comes to housing, and ensuring that we’re
giving people every opportunity to obtain safe and permanent housing. Thank
you, Mr. Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — Why is the member on her feet? Oh,
sorry. I guess I need to say something before you stand. She’s keeping me on my
toes, right?
Speaker Goudy:
— I recognize the Minister of Energy and Resources.
Hon. Colleen
Young: —
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Earlier today, the province of Saskatchewan officially
joined the Governors Coalition for Energy Security. We are now the second
province and the 14th government to have joined this new organization.
The Governors Coalition for Energy
Security was formed to help tackle the high costs of energy and its impact on
citizens. Initially it was an American-focused group but has now expanded to
include Saskatchewan and Alberta. Currently the United States members of the
coalition are the governors of Louisiana, Georgia, Tennessee, Alabama, Indiana,
Wyoming, Arkansas, Mississippi, Oklahoma, Virginia, South Dakota, and New
Hampshire. This participation demonstrates the importance energy security plays
in the lives of Americans and Canadians every day.
Mr. Speaker, Saskatchewan exports
21 million cubic metres of oil to the United States every year. About 1 in
20 homes in the United States are powered by electricity produced by
Saskatchewan uranium. We have 27 of the world’s 34 critical minerals. Ninety
per cent of the potash that the United States imports is from Saskatchewan. All
these transactions and more are essential for North American energy security
and affordability for all of our citizens.
Our province is and will continue to be
one of the most attractive jurisdictions for oil and mining investment, thanks
to our stable regulatory environment and commitment to sustainable resource
development.
Mr. Speaker, as we all know,
Saskatchewan has a great story to tell, and the Premier and this government
have been doing just that. Over the last number of months, our government has
met with hundreds of trade partners, industry representatives, and labour
groups in Canada and the United States. The Premier has met with governors,
senators, representatives, secretaries, and officials from the United States
government, making the case that North American energy security is achievable
when we have free and fair trade.
Today’s announcement of joining the
Governors Coalition for Energy Security demonstrates that politicians on both
sides of the 49th parallel care about reliable, affordable energy security for
all their citizens. Mr. Speaker, Saskatchewan has what the world needs and we
play an important role in the quest for North American energy security, which
is something that is impossible without a strong relationship with our biggest
trading partner. Thank you.
Speaker
Goudy: — I
recognize the member from Regina University.
Sally Housser: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I’d like to
thank the minister and her staff for providing an advance copy of that
statement prior to the sitting.
I agree wholeheartedly with the minister
on the importance of energy security on both sides of the border. Our
world-class resources, not only in oil and gas and potash and uranium, but
increasingly in critical minerals, are so key to Saskatchewan’s energy future
and our economic sovereignty.
Many governors from our key state
trading partners have shown leadership and friendship in the face of chaos and
aggression at the federal level, so we absolutely welcome this and any effort
that increases stability and security for our energy sector during these
challenging times. Thank you.
[11:00]
Speaker Goudy:
— I recognize the Leader of the Opposition.
Carla Beck: — Mr. Speaker, prior to orders of the
day, I seek leave to move a motion under rule 61.
Speaker
Goudy: — Will the member briefly state the
purpose of the motion and read the text of the motion.
Carla Beck: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will.
We’ve just seen vigorous debate in this
Assembly, and that’s important. This motion that I’m about to present is also
important. And I would like to see unity in this Assembly in responding to the
continued threats to our sovereignty coming from Donald Trump.
We should all in this Assembly, across
this province, be able to say loudly and proudly that we will never be the 51st
state, and if leave is granted, I would propose to move the following motion:
That the Assembly
condemns the Trump administration for proposing the annexation of Canada as the
51st state and imposing tariffs on Canadian goods; and
That in the opinion
of this Assembly the Government of Canada should neither impose export taxes
nor limit exports of natural resources produced in Saskatchewan.
Speaker
Goudy: — The Leader of the Opposition has
requested leave to move without notice a motion of urgent and pressing
necessity under rule 61. Is leave granted?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Speaker Goudy:
— Leave has been granted. The member may proceed.
Carla Beck: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and thank you
to all members for granting leave. Mr. Speaker, I stand in this House today
understanding and recognizing the gravity of the situation that we find
ourselves in. It can be said that this is an unprecedented crisis. A crisis
that faces the people of Saskatchewan, industry, and jobs here at home and
across this country. A crisis that’s already having an impact. We face tariffs
that threaten to destroy our economy, threaten whole communities, even threats
to our very existence as a country.
Now I think how we got here is something
that can be discussed and will be discussed for years to come. But I’m not most
interested in that. I’m interested in where we go from here to build a future
for this incredible country in this incredible province.
I think all members here know that
Donald Trump has repeatedly mocked the border between Canada and the United
States. Mr. Speaker, it is an invisible line, but it is not imaginary, and
you’re going to darn well know when you’ve crossed it. Donald Trump has crossed
the line.
Earlier this week, he told Fox News that
Canada was always meant to be the 51st state, and last week his secretary of
state actually came onto Canadian soil and repeated those threats. The list of
threats goes on and on.
Mr. Speaker, threats to our sovereignty,
our economic future, weren’t funny the first time, and they’re still not funny.
Let’s be clear: this is a fight that we didn’t pick, that none of us want. But
while we didn’t pick this fight, it is a fight that we can not back down from.
Members of the Trump administration have
mused that Saskatchewan and Alberta are the weak links in the chain, that we
would be the first to join the United States, and then the other provinces
would follow. I don’t think that that’s the case. That is not what Saskatchewan
people want. I see people right across this province standing up loudly and
proudly for their province and their country, belting out the national anthem,
hanging flags from their homes. This morning I was driving through Douglas
Park, saw a big sign in the picture window that said, “Elbows up. Buck hard.”
That’s what we need to do right now.
I see pride and I see love for this
country on this side of the House, and that gives me so much hope in uncertain
times. We’re offering the chance for the Premier and his ministers to join us
and the people of this province. Over and over we’ve called them to condemn the
comments about our country made by Donald Trump, to stand united, put aside any
political differences in the face of this unprecedented threat.
Now until today, we’ve seen the Premier
refuse. He actually mocked our motion, mocked this very notion as just words.
Mr. Speaker, words matter. Leadership matters. And what we do in this Assembly,
Mr. Speaker, it matters. The people of this province are listening and they’re
watching. They will watch how each and every member of this Assembly votes.
It is a privilege to stand in this
House, Mr. Speaker, and I will close with this. I love this country. Canada
will never be the 51st state. Let’s all of us be strong, be united, the True North,
Mr. Speaker, strong and free.
In closing, I will move:
That the Assembly
condemns the Trump administration for proposing the annexation of Canada as the
51st state and imposing tariffs on Canadian goods; and,
That in the opinion
of the Assembly, the Government of Canada should neither impose export taxes
nor limit exports of natural resources from Saskatchewan.
Speaker
Goudy: — The member has moved:
That the Assembly
condemns the Trump administration for proposing the annexation of Canada as the
51st state and imposing tariffs on Canadian goods; and
That in the opinion
of the Assembly, the Government of Canada should neither impose export taxes
nor limit exports of natural resources produced in Saskatchewan.
Is the Assembly ready for the question?
I recognize the Premier.
Hon. Scott Moe: — Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. And I
do want to thank the Leader of the Opposition for bringing forward a motion on
a topic that is so very important not just to families in Saskatchewan in
communities right across our great province but, Mr. Speaker, to families
across Canada and, dare I say, to families across North America as well, Mr.
Speaker.
And I’ll maybe bring just a little bit
finer point as to what is actually happening in Saskatchewan with respect to a
plan. There’s much in the way of words that we hear, yes, out of the White
House, Mr. Speaker, and we had a discussion about those words on the floor of
this Assembly in question period.
We are hearing also words across Canada,
Mr. Speaker. What Canadian families and what Saskatchewan families, I would
say, really need at this point in time and are asking for at this point in time
is for all levels of government to, yes, work together, but to come forward
with a plan, a plan, and put it into action, Mr. Speaker.
Because the president is saying what he
is saying, Mr. Speaker, it’s our response as Canadians that really matters. And
the plan that we have as Canadians and of Saskatchewan, the province of
Saskatchewan, is very much a part of that plan moving forward. Our response in
this case matters, Mr. Speaker.
As
we said, from the provincial perspective, Mr. Speaker, our goal is to not have
tariffs imposed on us, whether they be the three levels of tariffs that are
coming from the American administration and, more specifically, the president
of the United States of America; whether it be counter-tariffs from our federal
government; or whether it be the Chinese canola tariffs, Mr. Speaker. Which I
would say need to be discussed more as they are very much the most urgent and
impactful tariff for the province of Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker, as well as
Atlantic provinces in the case of seafood and provinces like Manitoba when it
comes to the pork tariffs that are included in there as well, Mr. Speaker.
And
so I want to outline just a little bit of what Saskatchewan’s plan is, Mr.
Speaker — has been, is, and will be and continue to be into the future as we
approach a very, very uncertain time, Mr. Speaker.
And
I’d say first and foremost that plans started with the introduction of a budget
yesterday, Mr. Speaker, which was balanced. Very unique in Canada to bring
forward a balanced budget at any level of government in today’s day and age. In
fact at the provincial and federal level, this province may stand alone in
having the only balanced budget in the nation of Canada, Mr. Speaker. What a
position of strength to come at this very unprecedented, uncertain time, Mr.
Speaker, from this province.
We
heard the former Finance minister, the federal Finance minister talk about, you
know, keeping our powder dry and ensuring that we have the fiscal strength to
address what may or may not be coming from, at that time, President-elect Trump
with his threat that he campaigned on and continues to threaten to follow
through on, Mr. Speaker — with the tariffs on not only Canada and Mexico but on
many other countries around the world, as we see a very determined effort to
change the US [United States] trade relationship with essentially the entirety
of the world, Mr. Speaker, starting with our continent of North America.
So
I would start with some of the effort that has really been the focus of this
government dating back to about November 7th, 2007. It was this government that
very much came in, had the honour of forming government on that very day, came
in with a very pointed effort to advocate and represent globally, in global
markets, on behalf of the industries that are creating wealth. The industries
that Saskatchewan families, Saskatchewan people are working in, Mr. Speaker —
the mining industry, the ag industry. We see a very vibrant oil and gas
industry, Mr. Speaker. The mining industry is expanding to new products and
expanding within the products that we have, Mr. Speaker.
As
well as, you know, all of the industries that are supporting those export
industries, whether it be manufacturing, lawyers, doctors, car dealers — all
supporting the very source of how our wealth arrives here in the province,
which is exports. We export stuff to many, many countries around the world and,
in turn, provide food, fuel, and fertilizer to those very countries. And I
would say, in particular in the case of North America, Saskatchewan is integral
in providing food and energy security.
Mr.
Speaker, when you hear Secretary Burgum and others, Secretary Wright, in the
Trump administration talking about energy dominance, Saskatchewan’s a part of
that. North American energy dominance, Mr. Speaker, in the oil and gas that we
provide to the midwestern refineries, in the uranium that we provide for clean
nuclear power to not only Canadian nuclear plants but US nuclear plants and
others in many other areas of the world.
Mr.
Speaker, looking ahead to the critical minerals, and more specifically the rare
earth elements that will be part of batteries that are going into cars and
other sources, Mr. Speaker, Saskatchewan very much is part of today’s energy
mix in providing that energy security, that energy dominance from a North
American perspective, but very much is going to be a part of that energy
security and that energy dominance for years and decades into the future for
our children and grandchildren to be able to create wealth in those industries,
Mr. Speaker.
And
so very early in the administration in 2007, in the new government, the
Saskatchewan Party government that formed then, there was a priority made on
engaging. That has been advanced in the last number of years with nine trade
offices, Mr. Speaker. It’s been advanced with the missions that ministers of
STEP [Saskatchewan
Trade and Export Partnership] and other officials partner with industry, Mr. Speaker,
and we go to countries around the world and we create that industry-to-country
relationship. We work on that province-to-country relationship. And we support
the ambassador and high commissioner’s office in that nation-to-nation
relationship as well.
And
that is working. As we see, our exports in this province in ’07 were
$17 billion, Mr. Speaker. Ag exports alone, I think, two years ago was
$20 billion, Mr. Speaker. The last three years going, our total exports in
this province have been just under $50 billion, Mr. Speaker, 17 to almost
$50 billion.
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Now
we see new mines coming on — BHP, a uranium mine in process, a copper mine in
process. We see investments in the forestry industry. We see investments in the
canola crush industry, the protein fractionation industry, all climbing the
value chain in each of those industries. And so it is, I think, very much the
case that in Saskatchewan as these billions of dollars of investment come
forward, we are going to see that export value continue to climb. That means
jobs. That means opportunity. And that is very good for the people that live in
Saskatchewan and the people that will live here in the future, Mr. Speaker.
So
first, in 2007 things changed in Saskatchewan by advocating representing on the
industries that are creating wealth in Saskatchewan. Two, Mr. Speaker, this is
a government that has, from day one, been supportive of pipes, ports, and rail
— not only the construction of that infrastructure but the seamless operation
of that infrastructure, so that we can continue to be regarded as a
sustainable, reliable partner in providing that food and fuel security,
wherever that may be in the world, Mr. Speaker.
That
is not always the case, and this is where there are some divergences over the
last 10 years in political parties, whether it be at the federal level, the
various provincial levels as well. And we’ve all seen the discussion, and I
won’t get into the details. And this is where there has been an awakening, Mr.
Speaker, in the last . . . I use the term “18 days” here in the
province, but an awakening by many governments that over the last decade have
been opposed to and have actively campaigned against and have actively, when in
government, put in place regulatory burdens, regulatory hurdles that are
preventing this very infrastructure from being built and operating and allowing
us to access the world and in many cases allowing us to actually offer energy
and food security to other Canadians and not be part of that North American
energy security and ultimately North American energy dominance conversation.
And
so there is an awakening and very much a changing of position, Mr. Speaker. And
the term we use in our office is that for a period of time — and I would urge
everyone to think of our what was a Liberal government and then a Liberal-NDP
minority coalition, and the decisions that they have made, Mr. Speaker — when I
say this following term: you can ignore reality for a period of time, but you
cannot ignore the consequences of reality.
And
what we have happening right now very much, Mr. Speaker, is the consequences of
reality. Mr. Speaker, we are not truly energy independent in this nation
because of our inability to get this type of infrastructure built across the
nation of Canada, Mr. Speaker. And I am happy to hear that that discussion is
changing today, Mr. Speaker, and we need to act on it. We need to act on it.
And,
Mr. Speaker, you’re going to see over the course of this session in the next
number of weeks a government in this province that is going to double down on
our efforts to advocate and to move the conversation along on the importance of
this type of infrastructure — pipes, ports, and rail and the very efficient
operation of all of it — so that we can be that reliable trade partner and
provide that sustainable supply to not only ourselves as Canadians, ourselves
as North Americans, but to other countries around the world.
Mr.
Speaker, we’re going to continue, through those international trade offices we
have, to reduce our reliance, reduce our reliance on the United States. We’re
one of the least reliant provinces on the US today. About 55 per cent of our
exports actually go to the US. Much of that is oil, Mr. Speaker. Much of that
is oil — the most sustainable oil you can find on earth by the way — but much
of it is oil.
Mr.
Speaker, we’re going to continue to diversify markets where we can using the
missions, using the trade offices that we can. That’s why you’ve seen our
Minister of Agriculture touching base with those markets. Mr. Speaker, myself
was in Mexico, the third partner to the USMCA [United States-Mexico-Canada
Agreement]. Our Minister of Trade and Export has been abroad. The Minister of
Energy and myself were actually in Houston talking with other folks from other
parts of the world — the Emirates, India as well, at that energy show, as well
as some folks from the president’s cabinet, Mr. Speaker.
And
so we’re going to continue to work on diversifying our exports, work that has
been undergoing for the last 18 years, Mr. Speaker. Again criticized by the
members opposite often but, Mr. Speaker, investment and work that has been
ongoing for 18 years, Mr. Speaker. And we’re happy in the last 18 days to have
the support of the members opposite in that space.
Mr.
Speaker, here’s the canary in the coal mine when it comes to environmental
regulations that are resulting in inflationary pressures for families and, I
would say, job loss in Canada. And certainly are resulting in a lack of
investment in certain industries across Canada, and I would highlight the
energy industry but there are many others.
We
have been, since before it was even implemented, against the carbon tax, Mr.
Speaker, and we continue to call on the removal of the entirety of the carbon
tax on everything for everyone across this nation, Mr. Speaker. And you will
see us actively taking steps and looking at what opportunities we have in
Saskatchewan to ensure that that is the case for Saskatchewan families.
And
I would point recently to our decision to remove that tax from how we heat our
homes in this province to match a decision, a very divisive decision that the
federal government had made on heating oil in Atlantic Canada, Mr. Speaker.
We
now see the federal government has taken one step in this space, and we would
encourage them to take the rest of the steps: not only remove all of the carbon
tax on all products for all Canadians, Mr. Speaker, but change Bill C‑69
so that we can get pipeline projects approved and built in this nation, mining
projects built and approved in this nation, so that we can ensure there is
security of investment for the energy industry in this province and in this
nation, Mr. Speaker.
We
would implore on the federal government whoever they are — I suspect we’re
going to be into a writ campaign very shortly — whoever they are to, Mr.
Speaker, remove the clean electricity standard and the layering of these
regulations, Mr. Speaker.
And
this is the epiphany that some political parties have had in the last 18 days
with the election of President Trump, as they are actually fundamentally
changing the values of their party. You can ignore reality, Mr. Speaker, but
you cannot ignore the consequences of reality. And that’s what the Liberal-NDP
parties of this nation and this province are realizing most recently.
More
recently, Mr. Speaker, we’re going to continue to advocate not only on
Saskatchewan’s behalf like we have for 18 years now, Mr. Speaker, despite the
criticisms of the opposition, but continue to advocate alongside other
premiers, continue to advocate alongside our federal government, whomever they
are, Mr. Speaker. We don’t agree with very much of what comes out of the
federal government over the last 8 to 9, 10 years, Mr. Speaker, and we’re
actually quite hopeful for a change. And that might be a question over the next
while is, you know, who are we all going to vote for in this Assembly, Mr.
Speaker, in this federal election. Because I think it’s a true testament of the
values that you have as an individual and the values that you have as a party,
Mr. Speaker. But we’ll get to that in the days ahead.
We
are going to continue to align with the federal government, whomever they are
today and whomever they might be in four to five weeks, Mr. Speaker. We’re
going to continue to work with other provinces. As you saw, the alignment of
provinces with some of the counter actions that were taken, Mr. Speaker, in our
liquor stores which are provincially regulated across the nation, Mr. Speaker,
but also in the case of procurement, Mr. Speaker. And our minister of
Saskatchewan Builds corporation has been looking into future contracts as well
as asking questions about current contracts, about the Canadian content and how
we’re actually going to push that Canadian content up wherever we can.
Mr.
Speaker, most recently, and I’ve said this a number of times, with the export
value in this province going from 17 to $50 billion, in how we are going
to support workers. We need to be innovative in how we support workers through
a very tumultuous time.
Of
the five tariffs that are there, the one that is in effect now is the aluminum
and steel tariff. We have a steel industry here that is employing literally
thousands of people in various communities, Mr. Speaker. And you saw our
Minister of Crown Investments come forward with I think was a very innovative
way to pull forward procurement contracts to ensure that they have the security
to keep those folks employed, Mr. Speaker, to provide stability for
steelworkers here in Regina and across the province of Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker.
And I commend not only the minister, but I commend all of those folks that are
working in that industry. And we’re going to do our level best, do all we can
to ensure that they have the stability of employment moving forward at very
tumultuous times.
Now,
Mr. Speaker, if we get to the reciprocal tariff space on April the 2nd with the
United States, and I said there’s five tariffs we’re facing. There’s a fentanyl
border tariff, Mr. Speaker. There’s aluminum and steel tariffs which I just
spoke of. There’s the reciprocal tariff on April the 2nd that the president
says he’ll make a decision and will impose on Canada and Mexico, as well as
other nations around the world. Four would be the counter-tariffs of the
federal government, and I’ll come back to that. And then five is the most
urgent and pressing tariff and one that I have asked our new Prime Minister,
Mark Carney, who I see skating with the Edmonton Oilers today. So we do agree
on some things, Mr. Speaker. We do agree on the team that we cheer for. And I’m
all perplexed here now, Mr. Speaker.
But
I have asked Prime Minister Carney to most certainly, you know, reach out and
offer a path forward, and offer at least a conversation that Canada, should he
be the prime minister after the election, that he is committed to ensuring that
there will be the removal of the tariffs, those canola tariffs at 100 per cent
that are going to be so impactful to Saskatchewan farmers and I would say to
the Canadian canola crush industry.
Mr. Speaker, I spoke of the
counter-tariffs, and coming back to that, we see the US full reciprocal tariffs
in Canada. The threat is about $600 billion of goods. That
$600 billion of goods are goods that are flowing from Canada to the United
States of America. The very near-term impact is going to be on American
families and American jobs.
Mr. Speaker, 10 to $15 billion of
oil flows into refineries in Ohio, Illinois, in Oklahoma, Louisiana, as well as
Texas, Mr. Speaker. Those refineries in Ohio are entirely dependent on Western
Canadian crude coming into those refineries. You cannot switch out and replace
for lighter US crude. It takes billions of dollars and a number of years to
make those retrofits, Mr. Speaker. That oil is going to flow, and if it does
not flow, US families are going to pay more or they aren’t going to have access
to it because the refineries will not run without Western Canadian oil, Mr.
Speaker. And so if there is a tariff on that product, Mr. Speaker, that is
going to have an impact on American families.
By extension, counter-tariffs are on
products that are coming from the US north, Mr. Speaker. And this is where
we’ve had discussions with the federal government. They’ve moved forward on
about $30 billion worth of products now that have counter-tariffs. That
would move to 155, Mr. Speaker. And there’s been much work done by the
provinces and the federal government on the list of products that are in there.
And we’re supportive of these moves,
should they be necessary, to date and into the future to 155. Those are very
targeted because those products, Mr. Speaker, not only do we have other options
as Canadian families and Canadian industries, but if you go beyond that 155,
you start to have a very real impact on the cost of living in Canada, and you
start to have a very real impact on how we conduct business and employ people
here in Canada. And so these by their very extension are going to have an
impact on Canadian families.
And we, at the very core, are not
supportive of counter-tariffs. However we do understand that these very
targeted measures may be necessary should we be facing one of the most
significant trade challenges that we have faced with our two largest trading partners
on earth, Mr. Speaker.
And last but certainly not least —
sorry, two points, and then last, Mr. Speaker — is with respect to the renewed
interest on interprovincial trade barriers, of which there are three CFTA
[Canadian Free Trade Agreement] exemptions, Mr. Speaker.
Credit to all, and some provinces have a
long ways to come in this space, a lot further than maybe Saskatchewan,
Alberta, and a few others, at reducing . . . And the federal
government has reduced over half of their interprovincial trade barriers, and
so credit where credit is due. That’s the first interprovincial trade barrier.
And other provinces will be in that 10 to 20, 30, 40 exemptions that they will
have in the Canadian Free Trade Agreement. I think we’re down to seven, if I’m
correct there. We’ve got it down, reduced to seven or four or somewhere in that
space. So other provinces are much higher than that. Canada had 40; they’re
down under 20, I think, now. So credit where credit is due, but they could
still come a little bit further.
The second interprovincial trade barrier
is just simply regulatory challenges. When we have a regulation come in in one
province in one year, 10 years later in another province, Mr. Speaker, those
need to be aligned whenever. And we as ministers in the government should
always be asking our ministries, when we’re looking at new regulations, is can
we align them. Rather than bring them in different than another province, can
we align them first with neighbouring provinces but also with other Canadian
provinces, Mr. Speaker?
And I would say the largest
interprovincial trade barrier that we have in this nation is our inability,
going back to infrastructure projects like building pipelines, that is the
largest and most significant interprovincial trade barrier that we have.
Last but not least, we’ll never be
supportive of export tariffs. An export tariff on the products that we produce
— whether it be oil, whether it be potash, whether it be ag products, whatever
it might be — that drastically impacts Canadian jobs. There will be job loss
due to that, and any federal government that introduces export tariffs, Mr.
Speaker, will understand the full opposition that the Government of
Saskatchewan has in that space.
Mr. Speaker, I would close with this,
that would introduce an amendment, Mr. Speaker.
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That all the words
after “That the Assembly” be replaced with the following:
confirms Canada
will never be the 51st state; and further, that the Assembly supports the
Government of Saskatchewan’s tariff response as follows:
That the Government
of Saskatchewan:
(1) is aligned with
all other provinces in the need to take counteraction against unjustified
tariffs, including stopping the purchase of US alcohol and reviewing all
government procurement to prioritize Canadian suppliers, with the goal of
reducing or eliminating US procurement;
(2) supports efforts
to increase procurement from Saskatchewan-based employers, like the recent
announcement by Saskatchewan Crowns to increase procurement of steel from Evraz
in Regina;
(3) supports the
federal government in the use of targeted counter-tariffs;
(4) does not
support the use of export tariffs;
(5) will continue
to work alongside all other premiers, federal ministers, and the Canadian
business leaders to engage with the US government at all levels to emphasize
the harm tariffs will cause to US businesses, workers, and consumers;
(6) continues to
support the expanding vital infrastructure projects, including ports,
pipelines, and rail, including their construction and seamless operations, and
will work to provide swift approval of any projects that pass through
Saskatchewan;
(7) continues to
reduce Saskatchewan’s reliance on exports to the United States by increasing
Saskatchewan’s exports to other countries through international trade missions
and trade offices; and
(8) supports the
complete removal of the federal carbon tax on everything for everyone,
including removal of federal industrial carbon tax that negatively impacts
Saskatchewan businesses and jobs and drives up the cost of Canadian-made
products.
I so move.
Speaker
Goudy: — It has
been moved by the Premier:
That all the words after “That the Assembly” be replaced with:
confirms Canada will never be the 51st state; and further, that the
Assembly supports the Government of Saskatchewan’s tariffs response plan as
follows:
That the Government of Saskatchewan:
(1) is aligned with all other provinces in the need to take counteraction
against unjustified tariffs, including stopping the purchase of US alcohol and
reviewing all government procurement to prioritize Canadian suppliers, with the
goal of reducing or eliminating US procurement;
(2) supports efforts to increase procurement from Saskatchewan-based
employers, like the recent announcement by Saskatchewan Crowns to increase
procurement of steel from Evraz in Regina;
(3) supports the federal government in the use of targeted
counter-tariffs;
(4) does not support the use of export tariffs;
(5) will continue to work alongside all other premiers, federal
ministers, and Canadian business leaders to engage with the US government at
all levels to emphasize the harm tariffs will cause to US businesses, workers,
and consumers;
(6) continues to support expanding vital infrastructure projects,
including ports, pipelines, and rail, including their construction and seamless
operations, and will work to provide swift approval of any projects that pass
through Saskatchewan;
(7) continues to reduce Saskatchewan’s
reliance on exports to the United States by increasing Saskatchewan exports to
other countries through international trade missions and trade offices;
(8) supports the
complete removal of the federal carbon tax on everything for everyone,
including removal of the federal industrial carbon tax that negatively impacts
Saskatchewan businesses and jobs and drives up the cost of Canadian-made
products.
Is the Assembly ready for the question?
I recognize the member from Regina South Albert.
Aleana Young: — Thank you very
much, Mr. Speaker. It’s always a privilege to be able to rise and enter debate
in this beautiful Assembly. And today in particular it’s thrilling to be able
to talk about the necessity and the imperative that exists in Canada right now
to be building, to be expanding pipelines, rail lines, transmission lines;
twinning the Trans-Canada Highway.
Mr. Speaker, this is a serious moment in
Canada, a serious moment in the world. It is also a time and an opportunity for
us in Saskatchewan and Canadians to build this country, control what we can
control, build our economic infrastructure, and truly build economic and
national security here in Canada. And Saskatchewan is a critical part of that.
We’re a landlocked province. We’re at the heart of this country. Our role, our
markets, the opportunities that we have here in this beautiful province to
contribute to that security for Canada are unmatched. And these words that we
speak, as the Leader of the Opposition said, these words, these ideas, they do
matter.
I disagree with the Premier. I respect
democracy. I value this institution. I value the entries and the words of my
colleagues, even members opposite. And that is what this moment calls for. This
moment calls for building. It calls for unity. Doesn’t call for procedural
shenanigans or inside baseball. This is a time for leaders.
Members opposite, often they like to
focus on the past. A revisionist history, I might suggest. In my office, Mr.
Speaker, like a good New Democrat, I’ve got a picture of Tommy Douglas up. You
know what he’s doing? Turning on the first pipeline in Saskatchewan. I’ve also
got a picture of Allan Blakeney up in my office. Great man, great premier.
Built this province. You know what he built? He built the potash industry. He
built the uranium industry. He built an oil company here in Saskatchewan.
Premier Roy Romanow. Premier Roy
Romanow, the greatest economic manager this province has ever seen, Roy
Romanow. And Janice MacKinnon, Finance minister, was good enough for members
opposite for their Economic Impact Assessment Tribunal. I’d like to see them
criticize the financial and fiscal acumen of that government and their
commitment to building this province.
And Premier Lorne Calvert. Excellent
leader, built a boom. Built this province’s social infrastructure with the
support of the resource industry, support he was so proud of. Growing the
enhanced oil recovery projects in Weyburn, growing our markets, growing our
production — that is the legacy of the Saskatchewan New Democrats. That is our
history, and it is one we are gosh darn proud of.
So I don’t know, Mr. Speaker. Maybe it’s
the government of Woodrow Lloyd that the members opposite are so concerned
about when they look to the past. All respect to the ghost of Woodrow Lloyd.
But, Mr. Speaker, those are our
priorities. Those are our values. That is what we have been focused on, on this
side of the aisle. And as the Leader of the Opposition said, her first move,
our first move when Donald Trump started threatening our country was to extend
our hand to say, let’s work together; this is bigger than partisanship. And
what have we seen, Mr. Speaker?
Again, a focus on shenanigans, on inside
baseball. And you bet, to the government members: we’ve got a job to do. We
will criticize your excess. We have a respect for taxpayer dollars. We’ve
respect for people of this province. This is a government, Mr. Speaker, that
couldn’t manage their way through a boom at the best of times. So you bet, some
of the comments that have been made here about 18 days, I point you again to
the proud history of not just our party but this province.
And members opposite can roll their
eyes, but the people of Saskatchewan, Mr. Speaker, are not foolish. They know
this too. And they do not want a government that’s focused on division, focused
on pettiness. And you would think that members opposite would recognize that,
sitting here in the House right now having glibbed their way to their first
loss in their party’s history. People of Saskatchewan are not foolish.
So it’s great that members opposite, you
know, have found Evraz on a map two years later. It’s great that members
opposite have decided that we should in fact prioritize procurement from
Saskatchewan companies. Welcome. We’re happy to have your voices join ours.
This is a time for change.
Speaker
Goudy: — I just caution the member, the use
of some of the terms — shenanigans, mentioning that someone might have bones in
their closet — that’s certainly accusing them.
Aleana Young: — All right, Mr.
Speaker, no more bones — promise. But this is a time for change. These are
serious times, needs serious leadership here in Saskatchewan and across Canada.
Mr. Speaker, we can’t be fighting about
the past, but members on this side will defend our history, will defend the
great people of this province, our ancestors who built this province. We’ll be
focused on the future.
Speaker
Goudy: — Sorry. I
recognize the Minister Responsible for CIC [Crown
Investments Corporation of Saskatchewan].
Hon. Jeremy
Harrison: —
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. It’s a pleasure to rise in debate on this
important topic. It really is. I think I’m going to start actually by picking
off where that member left off — talking about serious leadership for a serious
time.
And I can’t tell you, Mr. Speaker,
having sat with the gentleman sitting in the chair two over from me for 13, 14
years in this place about serious leadership, about somebody who takes this job
with his heart and soul, who loves this province with his heart and soul and
puts in literally 16, 18 hours a day — we’re either texting or we’re on the
phone until 11 at night and we’re back again at it at 6 in the morning — that’s
the commitment that this man has to the job that he occupies. And to somehow
suggest that that is not the case is really a disservice to the effort that
those who . . . the current occupant, but those who have come before
as well put into this job, because it’s not easy. It’s not easy. There are a
lot of tough days.
And you know, we have gone through an
incredibly challenging probably eight years that our Premier has been in that
chair, some of the probably most challenging governing scenarios provincial
governments have ever actually faced in the history of our federation, Mr.
Speaker. And we have approached all of those with an attitude of seriousness,
an attitude of making sure that we are taking into consideration all of the
interests of our province, and making sure that we’re heard as well. Whether it
be at the national level, whether it be internationally, Mr. Speaker, that is
the approach that we take on all of these things.
And I can tell you what the exact wrong
approach to take. I think, you know, former prime minister Chrétien talked
about you can’t be smart when you’re angry. That’s true. You also, Mr. Speaker,
you can’t panic. You can’t panic. You have to be very aware of what’s in front
of you. You have to know what the facts are that are in front of you and you
have to respond to those facts as they arise.
And this is kind of a weird analogy, but
I was actually watching the show — Will Ferrell, I’m a huge fan of his. Semi-Pro,
one of the movies that probably doesn’t get as much attention as some of the
other Will Ferrell movies. Scene where he’s actually wrestling a bear — Jackie
Moon, his character — and the bear escapes, and it was all . . . What
does the character do? Well he yells, “Everybody panic. Everybody panic.”
They’re in a crowded arena. Well that kind of reminds me to a degree of what
we’re hearing from the opposition: everybody panic, everybody panic.
What this time demands isn’t panic, Mr.
Speaker. What this time demands is a plan, and that’s what we’re putting in
front of the Assembly. And it’s a plan that is based on values that we have
held for 18 years, Mr. Speaker, that we have been honoured to serve on this
side of the House, a plan that is based on values.
On that side of the House they have new
values, brand new values. I actually . . . The 18 years I’m sitting
here, I can remember them having the complete opposite values through the vast
majority of that period of time.
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And thank the Premier for moving the
amendment as well. And we’re going to go through . . . I think I’ll
probably go through these points, Mr. Speaker, and speak to them and how they
reflect the values that we have had as a government and as a party through the
last 18 years, and how we’ve applied those values to our role as government.
The first one is the alignment with
other provinces, the need to take counteraction against unjustified tariffs,
including stopping the purchase of US alcohol and reviewing all government
procurement to prioritize Canadian suppliers with the goal of reducing,
eliminating US procurements. So we’ve been undertaking this.
Actually we have been working really
hard on this, Mr. Speaker, and I won’t take credit for it. It was my
predecessors that had sat in the Chair of the Crown Investments Corporation
ministry. But we had worked and have worked really hard at making sure that
firstly, we are procuring from Saskatchewan. Secondly, if not available that we
would procure from within Canada. And only if absolutely unavoidable, that we
would procure from outside of Canada. And only 3 per cent of procurements
through all of the major Crowns, Mr. Speaker, actually were procured from the
United States. We’ve been very, very successful on this regard.
And I would actually add to that, even.
In the context of the demands to eliminate all internal trade barriers, I’ll
tell you, one of the exemptions that we have included — or a handful of
exemptions — has been around Crown procurement. And suddenly with new values on
the other side demanding that all internal trade barriers be eliminated,
they’re demanding that we not have an exemption for Crown procurement, Mr.
Speaker. I don’t think they actually knew that that’s what they were demanding,
but that is what they were demanding, Mr. Speaker. I can tell you right now,
we’re going to keep that exemption in place. We’re going to keep that exemption
in place, Mr. Speaker.
And as far as coordinating with other
premiers, Mr. Speaker, as far as coordinating with other premiers and with the
national government, our Premier is the longest serving premier in Canada. Our
Premier has an incredibly respected voice at that table, and our Premier uses
that voice to make sure that not just our interests are respected, but the
national interest is respected as well. So I want to thank him for that.
As far as the second point in the
amendment and our plan, this is our plan, Mr. Speaker: that we would support
efforts to increase procurement from Saskatchewan employers, specifically
referencing Evraz. We had a great day the other day, Mr. Speaker, at the Evraz
steel mill. It was a great day. And it was the culmination . . .
[inaudible interjection] . . . You know, members can heckle, and this
is real stuff, Mr. Speaker. This is important things. These are important
decisions for literally hundreds of people who work at that facility.
We’ve been working . . . This
has been not just an overnight. This has been a number of weeks to how we get
to the point that we were at just a few days ago, to getting to that point, Mr.
Speaker, where we were able to make that announcement with Evraz corporate
leadership, with the United Steelworkers. We’d been working on this and what we
had to do in terms of working with the private sector as well and other
companies too. There were a lot of moving parts in this.
So I want to thank our partners. I want
to thank them — I want to thank Evraz; I want to thank JNE; I want to thank
Brandt — because this was a very significant and large project, along with our
team at SaskPower and SaskEnergy as well. But that announcement is going to
mean people keep working. And it’s because we were able to, through the
strength of our economy, advance some of the procurements of what would likely
have taken place over a significantly longer period of time, such that those
folks are going to continue to have that opportunity to work, Mr. Speaker.
No. 3: “Supports the federal
government in the use of targeted counter-tariffs.” I think the Premier spoke
very well to that. There have been lengthy discussions at the first ministers’
table about what the . . . and very, very delicate negotiations
around what some of those counter-tariffs are to make sure that we are
targeting the appropriate goods and the appropriate states, and even the
appropriate districts, to have maximum impact on decision making in the United
States. And I won’t get into great detail on all of that because there was a
lot of work that went into that between federal officials, provincial officials
across the country, to make sure we were maximizing our leverage on targeted
counter-tariffs.
As far as not supporting the use of
export tariffs, obviously we’ve been very, very clear that we do not support
the use of export tariffs. And I’m still concerned though, Mr. Speaker, I’ve
got to tell you, I actually am still concerned about the fact that the national
government refused to take the option off the table. And former prime minister
Trudeau was very clear in not taking that option off the table. We have not yet
heard from Prime Minister Carney as far as what his inclination would be on export
tariffs.
And let’s be clear what that means. An
export tariff would be a tariff on exports of commodities almost entirely from
Alberta and Saskatchewan. It would be a tariff targeted at our resource
industries here. The energy sector and potash would probably be the primary
with uranium as well being subject to that tariff.
There’s only one party that has not just
supported an export tariff but demanded it. Jagmeet Singh has demanded that an
export tariff be placed on Western Canadian exports in order to support Eastern
Canadian industries. We believe that would be a catastrophic endeavour for the
unity of this country. And the only party that is calling for that is the NDP,
Mr. Speaker.
So we’re very concerned. I mean if
there’s an election coming up here right now, if we were to have a
configuration of the House with the NDP holding the balance of power as they do
in the current configuration of the House, in coalition government really with
the Liberals, and they put that as a condition of their support, it would
happen. It would happen. And that is something we continue to be very concerned
about.
No. 5, Mr. Speaker: we’re going to
“continue to work alongside all the other premiers, federal ministers, Canadian
business leaders to engage with the US government at all levels to emphasize
the harm tariffs will cause to US businesses, workers, and consumers.”
This is why our Premier has been in
Washington twice. This is why the Premier and the Minister of Energy were just
in Houston and, I would add, criticized by New Democrats for meeting with
Republicans in the context of those meetings, Mr. Speaker.
Who do they expect us to meet with? The
House and the Senate obviously are majority Republican at this point with a Republican
administration. Of course, of course we’re going to be meeting with Republicans
as a part of that engagement effort, Mr. Speaker, building on relationships
that we have worked really hard to build over the past 18 years whether that be
in the Senate, whether that be members of the House conference, whether that be
at the governor level, whether that be former governors who are now cabinet
secretaries.
We are going to engage. And this has
been a major effort that we have undertaken, not just in the last 18 days
having discovered new values, but over the past 18 years because they are our
values, Mr. Speaker.
And as far as the tariff item as well,
I’d be remiss to not touch on this because I really do think it shows
priorities and values of both the current national government and its coalition
partner in the NDP.
There were tariffs that were put onto
Chinese electric vehicle exports. How many Chinese electric vehicle exports are
there to Canada? The answer is literally zero. A hundred per cent tariff were
put on. Why were those put on? Well basically to virtue-signal protection for
an electric vehicle industry in Ontario and battery industry in both Ontario
and Quebec. That was the reason that they were put on.
This
is the most acute tariff issue that we have in front of us right now. Because I
could tell you I know my producers back home in northwest Saskatchewan, many of
whom farm canola amongst other crops, they’re literally getting zero dollars
right now. You can’t sell canola right now. And the impact on that over the
long term would be a profound one. I mean, the Chinese market accounts for a
very large portion of international exports, and that canola space goes into
the Chinese market.
We’ve
worked really hard on building new markets for canola, and I want to give a lot
of credit to industry associations for working on that as well. Because I think
canola oil is a superior . . . It is a superior product to soy or
palm or some of the other alternatives that are used in other parts of the
world. Really it’s been a big part of our engagement with countries like
Vietnam and Indonesia, is how do we displace palm and soy oil for canola oil.
And the entire objective of that engagement effort has been to diversify canola
exports away from China into these other countries.
These
have been our values from the very beginning, Mr. Speaker. And I can tell you
all of the international engagement trips that we’ve undertaken — the Minister
of Agriculture, former minister of Agriculture; I know Minister of Trade; I
undertook a number of these — these were a very, very specific component of
those international engagement missions, is how do we diversify our canola
exports away from the Chinese market into other markets. And the primary one
actually is the United Arab Emirates, is actually where we’ve been able to most
successfully diversify canola exports from.
Their
old values, Mr. Speaker, led them to vociferously criticize those efforts,
vociferously, unequivocally condemning this government for those engagement
efforts in working to diversify our canola exports into other markets around
the world . . . Well you know, they can heckle, but they actually
know that’s true, Mr. Speaker. They have been massively critical of our efforts
to diversify those exports around the world.
In
addition to that, Mr. Speaker, we’ve worked really hard on forming
. . .
[Interjections]
Speaker Goudy: — Order. Order.
Hon. Jeremy Harrison: — Thank
you, Mr. Speaker. We’ve worked really hard on our broader diversification
efforts across both the ag space and our other exports around the world. It’s
why we have opened nine international trade offices, which have been incredibly
successful. They really have been. Our program is really a model for other
jurisdictions around the world. And I want to thank our staff who work in those
offices.
When
we were forming these, the NDP literally accused our officials who work in
these offices of being partisan hacks. That’s literally the word they used for
it, Mr. Speaker. These are professional public servants who are doing their
very best day in and day out in providing leadership, working with our
companies to provide new trade opportunities. And they’ve done a great job.
I
can tell you India’s a wonderful example of this, Mr. Speaker. We’ve been
criticized for the trips that we have made to India and setting up our office
in India. India’s one of our most important export markets and one of the ones
where relationships probably matter as much or more than any other personal
relationships matter, as much or more than any other. And this is the largest
country by population in the world.
When
we go to India, we are sitting down with Union ministers at the most senior
level. You know, Minister Piyush Goyal, for example; Minister Jaishankar, the
foreign minister. Well just as an example, Prime Minister Harper was actually
just in India in the last couple of days, met with Minister Goyal, and you
know, what was the discussion about? It was about Saskatchewan. That was what
the discussion was about.
For
ministers at that level in India to even understand the differentiation within
our federation is a remarkable thing, but to understand the very granular
importance of that bilateral relationship has resulted in . . .
[Interjections]
Speaker Goudy: — Order.
Hon. Jeremy Harrison: — Has resulted in some very real and
tangible benefits for this province that accrue directly at the farm gate for
our ag producers, Mr. Speaker. That’s why we do these things. Those are our
values. They have new values, Mr. Speaker; those have always been our values.
So
point 7 in our plan, Mr. Speaker, or point 6 around vital infrastructure
projects and really around pipelines. We have always had the same values. We
have been in favour of pipelines in every direction, all of the above, from day
one.
[12:00]
We’ve
been advocating for those. And not just advocating. Where we’ve had regulatory
authorities, we’ve expedited approvals. We’ve done all of those things so that
these pipelines can go forward.
Well
you know, this one’s a touchy one for the NDP actually. It’s interesting. It’s
a very touchy one for the NDP because now they’re desperate to act like they’ve
been supporters of pipelines. And anybody watching, you can hear like how
touchy they are about this. But the reality is that they have . . .
Speaker Goudy: — Sorry, I’m just going to ask for,
you know, quiet in the House. I am also going to mention to the minister, I’m
just not sure . . . I’m having a hard time with that one, but just
being able to say what other people value or don’t value. So if we could move
forwards on that, would be great. Thanks.
Hon. Jeremy Harrison: — Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On pipelines,
and you know, obviously they are very touchy about that. Our record is
incredibly clear, and their record is incredibly clear as well. They have voted
against pipelines every chance they’ve had, Mr. Speaker.
[Interjections]
Speaker Goudy: — Boy, I’m not sure how it works in
your homes, but if someone says let’s have order and two seconds later, I don’t
know what’s going on there. But please let’s keep order and let the minister
finish his remarks.
Hon. Jeremy Harrison: — So on pipelines, Mr. Speaker, we
obviously are very supportive of pipelines going forward — Energy East,
Northern Gateway, all of Keystone XL, all of the above. And I’ll leave it at
the fact that I think the public know where the other folks are at on that.
As
far as no. 8, which is the item of removing the carbon tax, I would say on
this as well there has been a very clear distinction about what we support, Mr.
Speaker. The Premier is probably the best example in the entire country. He was
the very first one who . . . was in the room when it was announced at
an Environment ministers meeting by, at that point, Catherine McKenna, and
behind closed doors. The Prime Minister, I think, rose almost simultaneously in
the House of Commons to announce unilaterally, with no consultation with
provinces, that they were imposing a consumer carbon tax on the country.
Our
Premier walked out of that meeting and was very clear with the national media
assembled outside but also with people in this province — he was Environment
minister at that time — that under no circumstances at any point would we ever
accept a federal carbon tax being foisted on this province and we would do
everything that we could to fight it. And it is remarkable we are being proven
almost hourly we were right. He was right.
Because
I can remember what the aftermath of that was. We were the only province, the
only province to oppose the carbon tax being instituted in that federal
parliament, the only one. And in fact we were criticized by the members
opposite who at that point had a different view of the world apparently. I
think they actually don’t have a different view, but they claim to. So they had
a different view of the world at that point, and they were incredibly critical.
Sitting
right there, listening day after day after day to NDP members standing,
demanding that we sign on to the Trudeau carbon tax, that any efforts we were
making to fight the carbon tax, it was pointless; it was hopeless. There is
absolutely no reason you should be fighting the Trudeau carbon tax. Well as it
turns out, we were right.
But
there’s more to go yet, Mr. Speaker. Because we still have the Liberals and NDP
running in this election coming up — it sounds like we’re going to have an
election call here on the weekend — are running on keeping the industrial
carbon tax. This is the hidden carbon tax that they imposed on provinces, Mr.
Speaker. This is the hidden carbon tax. Carney actually came right out and
said, well yeah, we’re going to take off the commercial carbon tax, but what
we’re going to make up for it is by jacking up the industrial carbon tax. So
this is actually what you pay on your SaskPower bill. That’s the industrial
carbon tax.
So
what they are proposing, what the Liberals are proposing and running on,
supported by the NDP in doing it, is actually taking the consumer carbon tax
off on the one hand and raising the industrial carbon tax on the other, hoping
that people don’t actually know that they will still be paying the industrial
carbon tax. There’s a reason why we put “federal carbon tax” on the bills that
go out to our ratepayers, because it’s a real tax. So we need to get rid of
that tax as well, Mr. Speaker, and the Premier alluded to some things that are
under consideration on that front as well.
But
you know, one of the things . . . Actually watched the speech last
night from the 1984 acceptance speech that Ronald Reagan gave to his party
leading into the 1984 election. So the background to this, Mr. Speaker, was
running against Democrats, Ronald Reagan running for re-election.
The
Democrats were behind. The polls were showing at kind of 52 to 40, you know,
they were way back, 12 points behind, right around that 52 to 40 per cent of
the popular vote range, Mr. Speaker. So the Democrats were desperate. They were
desperate. They were heading into their convention in San Francisco where
basically they swallowed themselves whole. They changed all of their values,
Mr. Speaker, all of them, and they adopted the Reagan platform. And this was at
their convention.
So
here’s what President Reagan — who believed in free trade and free markets and
a great relationship with Canada — here’s what he said heading into that
convention where he was ahead 52 to 40:
I’ve been campaigning long enough to know that a political
party and its leadership can’t change their colors in four days. We won’t, and
no matter how hard they tried, our opponents didn’t in San Francisco. We didn’t
discover our values in a poll taken a week before the convention. And we didn’t
set a weathervane on top of the Golden Gate Bridge before we started talking.
Well
4 days, maybe 18 days in this case, Mr. Speaker. But our values have never
changed. Our values have been the same. And if you go by history in that
election, well what ended up happening? Reagan ended up winning a massive
majority. The Democrats lost badly and their own supporters didn’t believe
them. The Democrat supporters didn’t believe them that they had actually
changed their values, and they were mad at them for talking about it.
So
you know, there is going to be an opportunity here though. We have a federal
election coming up here. You know, I think a number of these policies are going
to be on the ballot. A number of these policies are going to be on the ballot,
represented by different leaders. Who supports pipelines? Who supports energy
infrastructure? Who supports trade? Who does those things, and which parties do
not?
I
can tell you who I’m going to be voting for. This is going to shock colleagues
probably. I’m going to vote Conservative in this election. I am. I am. We’ve
seen the alternative, the Liberal and NDP government. I’m not sure that it was
very good for Saskatchewan. I’m really not sure it’s been very good for this
province.
They’re
going to have a choice as well. They can vote for Pierre Poilievre. I don’t
think they will. The member for Meewasin just said he’s voting for Jagmeet
Singh, I think I heard, Mr. Speaker. And I guarantee you . . . Oh, no
he’s voting . . .
[Interjections]
Speaker Goudy: — Today is the first day of spring. So
I know I remember my kindergarten days, but let’s all get through the day.
Please listen, and that’ll be good. We’ll be hearing the good words from the
minister. So please proceed.
Hon. Jeremy Harrison: — He actually corrected that. He says he
is voting for Pierre Poilievre, so I’m sure his constituents will be happy to
hear that.
But
the reality is that we are going to have a choice. And this choice is going to
be incredibly consequential for what the future of our province is going to
look like. There are going to be different options on the ballot. I would
really hope that they get the question about who they are actually going to be
supporting because I actually suspect that all of them are going to be voting
for Jagmeet Singh.
That tells
you where their values are. Our values have always been clear. Thank you, Mr.
Speaker.
Speaker
Goudy: — Well there
we have it. So it has been moved by the Premier,
this amendment:
That all the words
after “That the Assembly” be replaced with:
confirms Canada will never be the 51st state; and further, that the
Assembly supports the Government of Saskatchewan’s tariffs response plan as
follows:
That the Government of Saskatchewan:
(1) is aligned with all other provinces in the need to take counteraction
against unjustified tariffs, including stopping the purchase of US alcohol and
reviewing all government procurement to prioritize Canadian suppliers, with the
goal of reducing or eliminating US procurement;
(2) supports efforts to increase procurement from Saskatchewan-based
employers, like the recent announcement by Saskatchewan Crowns to increase
procurement of steel from Evraz in Regina;
(3) supports the federal government in the use of targeted
counter-tariffs;
(4) does not support the use of export tariffs;
(5) will continue to work alongside all other premiers, federal
ministers, and Canadian business leaders to engage with the US government at
all levels to emphasize the harm tariffs will cause to US businesses, workers,
and consumers;
(6) continues to support expanding vital infrastructure projects,
including ports, pipelines, and rail, including their construction and seamless
operations, and will work to provide swift approval of any projects that pass
through Saskatchewan;
(7) continues to reduce Saskatchewan’s
reliance on exports to the United States by increasing Saskatchewan exports to
other countries through international trade missions and trade offices;
(8) supports the
complete removal of the federal carbon tax on everything for everyone,
including removal of the federal industrial carbon tax that negatively impacts
Saskatchewan businesses and jobs and drives up the cost of Canadian-made
products.
Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to
adopt the amendment?
Some Hon. Members:
— Agreed.
Some Hon. Members:
— No.
Speaker
Goudy: — All right. The amendment motion is
not carried. We have two . . . Oh, sorry, ask for a recorded
division. Recorded division. I recognize the . . . Call in the
members. Sorry.
[The
division bells rang from 12:12 until 12:14.]
Speaker
Goudy: — All those in favour of the amendment please stand.
[Yeas — 31]
Moe
Harrison,
D.
Marit
Cockrill
Hindley
Harrison,
J.
Jenson
Young,
C.
Cheveldayoff
Keisig
Thorsteinson
Martens
Hilbert
Steele
Schmalz
Ross
McLeod,
T.
Carr
Wilson
Weedmark
Beaudry
McLeod,
B.
Crassweller
Kropf
Weger
Patterson
Bromm
Rowden
Chan
Gartner
Kasun
[12:15]
Speaker
Goudy: — All those opposed to the amendment
please stand.
[Nays — 25]
Beck
Burki
Nippi-Albright
Mowat
Wotherspoon
Love
Teed
Young,
A.
Laliberte
McPhail
Breckner
Sarauer
Conway
Blakley
Grewal
ChiefCalf
Jorgenson
Brar
Gordon
Warrington
Pratchler
Housser
Senger
Roy
McBean
Principal
Clerk: — Mr. Speaker, those in favour of the
amendment, 31; those opposed to the amendment, 25.
Speaker
Goudy: — And first I want to apologize that,
you know, read through . . . I’m not always the sharpest fellow. When
I had said that it was not carried, I apologize. I was not listening to one
side or the other. I was following my notes, which . . . Well if you
want to switch around, I some days would love that.
But anyways, obviously, clearly it was
carried. And the motion now reads:
That all the words
after “That the Assembly” be replaced with . . .
Not all of that. I am sorry, everyone.
The motion as amended:
confirms Canada will never be the 51st state; and further, that the
Assembly supports the Government of Saskatchewan’s tariffs response plan as
follows:
(1) is aligned with all other provinces in the need to take counteraction
against unjustified tariffs, including stopping the purchase of US alcohol and
reviewing all government procurement to prioritize Canadian suppliers, with the
goal of reducing or eliminating US procurement;
(2) supports efforts to increase procurement from Saskatchewan-based
employers, like the recent announcement by Saskatchewan Crowns to increase
procurement of steel from Evraz in Regina;
(3) supports the federal government in the use of targeted
counter-tariffs;
(4) does not support the use of export tariffs;
(5) will continue to work alongside all other premiers, federal
ministers, and Canadian business leaders to engage with the US government at
all levels to emphasize the harm tariffs will cause to US businesses, workers,
and consumers;
(6) continues to support expanding vital infrastructure projects,
including ports, pipelines, and rail, including their construction and seamless
operations, and will work to provide swift approval of any projects that pass
through Saskatchewan;
(7) continues to reduce Saskatchewan’s
reliance on exports to the United States by increasing Saskatchewan exports to
other countries through international trade missions and trade offices;
Is it the pleasure of the Assembly to
adopt the motion as amended?
Some
Hon. Members: — Agreed.
Some
Hon. Members: — On division.
Speaker
Goudy: — Call in the members.
[The division bells rang from 12:22
until 12:23.]
Speaker
Goudy: — All those in favour of the motion as amended please
stand.
[Yeas — 56]
Moe
Harrison,
D.
Marit
Cockrill
Hindley
Harrison,
J.
Jenson
Young,
C.
Cheveldayoff
Keisig
Thorsteinson
Martens
Hilbert
Steele
Schmalz
Ross
McLeod,
T.
Carr
Wilson
Weedmark
Beaudry
McLeod,
B.
Crassweller
Kropf
Weger
Patterson
Bromm
Rowden
Chan
Gartner
Kasun
Beck
Burki
Nippi-Albright
Mowat
Wotherspoon
Love
Teed
Young,
A.
Laliberte
McPhail
Breckner
Sarauer
Conway
Blakley
Grewal
ChiefCalf
Jorgenson
Brar
Gordon
Warrington
Pratchler
Housser
Senger
Roy
McBean
[Nays
— nil]
Principal
Clerk: — Mr.
Speaker, those in favour of the motion as amended, 56; those opposed, 0.
Speaker
Goudy: — I declare the motion carried.
[The
Assembly resumed the adjourned debate on the proposed motion by the Hon. Jim Reiter
that the Assembly approves in general the budgetary policy of the government.]
Speaker Goudy: — I recognize the member from Regina Mount
Royal.
Trent
Wotherspoon: — Thank you,
Mr. Speaker. It’s a pleasure to enter back into debate here today on the
budget, about the challenges we face and the priorities that we need to
advance. You know, of course, I spoke substantively yesterday on many of the
aspects that weren’t here. A large feature there is just a government that’s
been unwilling to recognize the economic threats that were in tariffs and the
impacts of those tariffs on Saskatchewan. And I’m willing to stand up against
that. I’m willing to stand up against the US president, against Trump, on this
front.
And we see it
again here today, Mr. Speaker. We saw it just moments ago where this government
was unwilling to stand up and use their voice to condemn the incredibly
wrong-headed, inappropriate, unacceptable statements of the president, Mr.
Speaker. And we saw them go to great lengths here to contort
themselves and switch around a motion, Mr. Speaker, to prevent them from having
to say anything tough to President Trump, which is I guess a reflection of who
these guys are, a shadow of their former selves, Mr. Speaker, and weak in face
of these challenges.
Now it seems that the member for Meadow
Lake is going to threaten J.D. Vance with some sort of tickle fight and whisker
rub, Mr. Speaker, in face of . . .
Speaker
Goudy: — Okay, I allowed the member to get
away with some things yesterday because we were full in the Chamber. And I
would expect today that the member will hold his words to what would be
expected for the hon. members on both sides of the House.
Trent
Wotherspoon: —
Mr. Speaker, we have unprecedented threats on our sovereignty and on our
economy coming from an ally, a neighbour, a friend, and it’s completely
unacceptable. And we should be strong and steely in our resolve and firm in our
words how unacceptable this is, how clear we are that we will never be the 51st
state, that we won’t be treated in these ways, and that we’re going to stand up
for Saskatchewan people and workers and producers and industry and our economy
across this province.
Of course this budget does none of those
things, Mr. Speaker, but it is an honour to enter into this budget debate. I do
so on behalf of the good people I represent, the constituents across Regina
Mount Royal, Mr. Speaker. And I want to thank them for entrusting me to
represent them in this Assembly.
[12:30]
As such, you know, we will continue to
point a path forward for government that would make a difference in people’s
lives. We’ll call out this budget that really defies reality, Mr. Speaker,
that’s not based in the facts of what we face and that certainly doesn’t plan
for the future.
I do want to recognize as well Jannet
Shanks, as often we do. Just an incredible constituency assistant, servant of
the people, Mr. Speaker, who goes out of her way to extend care and compassion
and some of the best advocacy and service to those that we’re entrusted with
the responsibility of serving, Mr. Speaker. And I want to thank Jannet Shanks
for her incredible leadership and service to the good people that we represent.
I also want to just identify family,
obviously as the members do in these moments. Just thanks so much to our family
and to our extended family, to my parents and Stephanie’s parents, my sisters,
and you know, the whole team.
And of course to Stephanie and William
for being such awesome partners in life and as well in this service and in this
work, Mr. Speaker. Of course, Stephanie is a dedicated teacher and
teacher-librarian, Mr. Speaker, who works hard in that role and cares about
what her and her staff team and what education provides to students, Mr.
Speaker. Works incredibly hard on those fronts, Mr. Speaker.
And Willian, you know, he’s working hard
in school and leaning into so many other good activities. Loving hockey these
days, Mr. Speaker, still. Big playoff game tonight, Mr. Speaker, over at the
Co-operators. It’s do or die, Mr. Speaker, so I hope we’re playing still on the
weekend. But also loves the outdoors and arts and all these things, and it’s
just awesome to watch him grow and to have him involved in all this work. And
our families are a big part of supporting our service and supporting that work.
Mr. Speaker, I’ve been pretty clear
about where this budget misses the mark. You know, nothing with respect to an
economic plan. No plan around tariffs. No measures to step up and help and
build out some of the transportation infrastructure that would support trade,
Mr. Speaker. No incorporation even of budget impacts as a result of tariffs.
Every other province, of course, is
stepping forward and incorporating the impacts of tariffs in some way or
another. Contingency plans are part of that in most provinces, Mr. Speaker. But
certainly incorporating the fiscal and economic impacts of tariffs into the
budget is simply the duty of the Finance minister and of a government who’s
entrusted with that responsibility.
And you know, it’s just completely wrong
and unacceptable that this government would bring forward a budget that doesn’t
incorporate the reality that we’re facing, let alone have a plan to be there
for our economy, for workers, for producers, for industry across Saskatchewan
or for people and families and seniors who are also caught up in more increases
to their cost of living, beat-up savings and pensions, Mr. Speaker. And a
government that, during a time of unprecedented cost-of-living challenges, has
only made things worse.
Now they’re looking another challenge in
the eye here with respect to potential cost-of-living increases as a result of
this trade war. And they have a government that hasn’t been there for them in
the past but has only made things worse with more taxes and more costs, Mr.
Speaker. And you know, it leaves people in a very vulnerable spot, in a stress
spot when they look at what they’re facing on these fronts, Mr. Speaker.
Of course we look at the budget through
the lens of health and education. Those actions just aren’t there. We see a cut
to the health funding, and you know, it’s hard to imagine that a government
would choose to cut health funding at a time where families can’t access a
family doctor, or anyone that’s rolled into an ER at a time where they need
care and they’re there and see the overwhelmed ERs or the hospitals, Mr.
Speaker, or those that are waiting on the longest surgery wait-lists in Canada,
often in agony as they wait, or you know, so many women now that aren’t
provided basic cancer care, Mr. Speaker, who are sent to Calgary, out of
province on their own dime to have a mammogram or for a breast biopsy.
This is a system that has really been
broken — health care — by the current government, and cuts like this and a
failure to have a plan to build a labour force and bring these solutions home
just don’t cut it with Saskatchewan people, Mr. Speaker.
Same in education. We need an adequate
budget. This government that drove us to last place in per-student funding, you
know, Mr. Speaker, and that’s created serious pressure in classrooms, the
classrooms right across the schools that I represent, Mr. Speaker. It does
nothing to provide those supports, Mr. Speaker, to build some of those back. It
does nothing to enable some of the renewal of infrastructure.
I mean, something you’ll have heard me
talk about lots in this legislature was the closure of Dieppe School, of
course, Mr. Speaker, and you know, that happened under the cuts of this Sask
Party government. That school still stands there. Regina Public Schools still
retains it and maintains it and holds it there. It’s very important to the
community of Dieppe, Mr. Speaker. Very important as well, it served Westerra in
such a good way.
But it makes no sense for the school
boards to be shorted of the resources they need. We need to be investing in
education to make sure that every last classroom has the supports in place to
support student learning, and we need the investment in place to allow school
boards like Regina Public to be able to reopen Dieppe School to serve the
broader community, Mr. Speaker.
Good timing as well with budget.
Certainly I’ll look forward to any of the questions and insight they have on
those fronts as well. But they’re very much representative of all the
communities I represent. Dieppe-Westerra, Mr. Speaker. Certainly Normanview
West and Prairie View. Across further west to Fairways West and Westhill and
Edgewater, Greenside Terrace. These communities are all enriched by the service
and the volunteerism and the care of neighbours and service, Mr. Speaker.
And I want to thank all those community
associations across their respective communities, and I look forward to joining
one here tonight. The crew I join here tonight, Mr. Speaker, it was just a
couple weeks ago . . . We’ve started a bit of an annual tradition
together where towards the end of the Outdoor Hockey League season — for which
I continue to be lucky enough to be a volunteer coach with — towards the end of
the season the community association and the SCCs, the local school community councils,
they come together and provide chili. And we bring community together, no cost,
and serve up lots of food and incredible fellowship as well, Mr. Speaker.
That’s just a demonstration of what
community’s all about. And I’m damn lucky to work with all of these good
people. And I know it’s also a reflection frankly of communities across
Saskatchewan — rural and urban, south and north. This is what Saskatchewan is
all about, Mr. Speaker.
I touched on yesterday obviously like
just the reckless plan to have . . . or lack of plan, to not respond
to the economic challenges and tariffs in this budget. I mean, it’s totally
unacceptable. I touched on the health and education inadequacies, Mr. Speaker.
I touched on the lack of affordability that’s been offered up by this
government, a government that’s mismanaged our finances, whose mismanagement,
scandal, and waste has really come home to roost. And you see it in the debt
numbers that have ballooned by this government, but you also see it — and this
is real impact — in the costs that have then been pushed onto Saskatchewan
people, which are totally unacceptable.
You see it in the budget where we’re now
spending over a billion dollars in debt servicing, Mr. Speaker, an increase of
over $100 million. That’s a billion dollars not going into priorities of
Saskatchewan people. Or you see it in all the taxes that have been imposed at a
time where families can least afford it, Mr. Speaker. And certainly now is a
time where families are really in need of relief, where they need to have a
life that’s more affordable. There’s inordinate pressure and hardship on people
that are working so damned hard just to care for their families, right, and to
put food on the table. And so a government should always be working to make
things better, not tougher as we’ve seen from this government.
So I highlighted yesterday the fiscal,
just, record of this government, which of course is a really, really poor one,
Mr. Speaker. One of mismanagement, one of not getting it done during the best
days in this province’s history, not able to save a dime, draining every dollar
that was there, piling on debt and more, and then sticking people with the
costs in taxes.
But I also want to focus in on the
shadow responsibility just a bit further, as I did yesterday, around
agriculture, Mr. Speaker, a responsibility I share with our leader on this
front. And it’s fair to say that this is a challenge time for agriculture in
this province in face of these threats. We have many, many industries that are
directly impacted by the unacceptable threats and actions by the US, the
actions by China and it impacts the farm gate, impacts hard-working producers
all across this province, Mr. Speaker.
You know, we can look at the impact on
canola alone — a collapsing price, a loss of $2 a bushel already, Mr. Speaker,
which is really huge. You know, that’s significant and those are real losses,
real costs for producers across Saskatchewan, and represent huge uncertainty as
well for producers as they go into a growing season. There’s pressures like
this right across commodities, pressures as well on the beef and livestock
sector, Mr. Speaker.
You know, with respect in a very focused
way to canola, certainly, I mean, this was signalled in August of last year
that China may retaliate in some way. And you know, it’s frankly really
disappointing that our provincial and federal government didn’t step up and
work to resolve this before producers were left to take the hit.
We’re here where we are now, but you
didn’t hear much from this provincial government, Mr. Speaker, in the months
since August when this was intimated. Now it’s producers that are left with the
impacts, and we need a steadfast focus and serious action from this provincial
government with the federal government to resolve this trade matter, to end
this absolutely unacceptable tariff on canola by the Chinese government, Mr.
Speaker.
They need to be engaged. There needs to
be action on this front. There needs to be resolution. And as I’ve said, as
we’ve said, we are supportive of Canada cancelling their tariff on Chinese EVs
[electric vehicle] if that’s a tool to work to resolve this matter. But plain
and simple, the provincial government, the federal government, they need to get
serious on this. They need to get it resolved because it’s producers that are
paying the price right now, Mr. Speaker.
You know, we see the impacts on the beef
side as well. You saw feeder cattle drop in a big way with the threats of
tariffs, Mr. Speaker. Uncertainty in a fully integrated industry there, and an
industry that needs to be supported in better ways as well. We don’t have the
adequate . . . And these are some of the things that need to be done
regardless of what we’re dealing with south of the border and the current
threats. We need to get an actual solid backstop and work directly with
livestock producers to make that happen, Mr. Speaker.
You know, if you look at livestock price
insurance, for example, Mr. Speaker. Of course, you know, on most of the other
programs, all the grain programs, those are cost-shared on the premium side by
the provincial and the federal government. That’s not the case for the
livestock sector with livestock price insurance, Mr. Speaker, and it’s a matter
of equity and fairness. It’s also a matter of how critical it is to have solid
backstops in place to provide protection to producers. So it’s well past time that
this provincial government step up to the plate to contribute along with the
federal government ensuring, you know, premiums to livestock price insurance
and livestock business risk management programs to ensure they have the
backstop they deserve.
I know there’s some important
improvements as well with respect to AgriStability that we will push forward as
well, that we’ve been advocating for, Mr. Speaker.
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And when we look at that livestock
sector as well, like we have the best beef in the world, Mr. Speaker, something
we should be so proud of. Livestock producers play such an important role in
maintenance of grass and native prairie, Mr. Speaker, as good stewards of the
land and of wetlands. And so they play a real important role, as well as
sequestration of carbon, but we need to make sure that we have the economics
and the backstop that works for them.
Something that they’re up against — and
so are consumers — is the anticompetitive out-of-province meat-packing duopoly
in this country, Mr. Speaker, that compromises our food supply in this country
and that shorts producers of a fair price on their cattle. And you know, we’ve
called for action on this for a long time. We need this provincial government
to also work with the federal government but critically as provincial
government to use their voice and show some leadership to address those
anticompetitive behaviours of the out-of-province, multinational,
out-of-country meat packers, Mr. Speaker.
And in so doing when we address that
duopoly and address those anticompetitive behaviours, we really need to work
with Saskatchewan producers and communities and business to build up meat
processing in this province; to create those jobs across this province, Mr.
Speaker, small and large; to make sure that producers across this province have
those options and those markets available to them that only strengthens our
economy, strengthens the position for livestock producers in this province. But
it also creates really good local jobs and good economic development, Mr.
Speaker, and really good choice for consumers.
You know, I know a lot of Saskatchewan
people that take great pride in supporting local and supporting local producers
and that field-to-fork experience, Mr. Speaker. And you know, this is something
that we should really be leading on. It’s an area we’ve really pushed and will
continue to. I want to thank the livestock sector and producers across the
province for all their voice and leadership and work on this front as well, Mr.
Speaker.
And in this case, it’s about getting
value and positioning our cattle producers for success, our livestock sector
for success, ensuring fairness for them. But it’s also about addressing
affordability and ensuring fairness for consumers who — you know, when you look
at the anticompetitive meat packers and this industry — who often are subject
to paying through the nose at the grocery store, Mr. Speaker. And meanwhile the
livestock producer is also being shorted in the exercise, Mr. Speaker.
I want to speak as well just to
something that we’ve pushed for, for a long time, but it’s just how naive
frankly the country has been and certainly this province in leaning into
addressing our inadequate and underperforming transportation system. You know
when it comes to the rail side, it’s been with kid gloves that this government
has dealt with the duopoly, Mr. Speaker. And it’s been producers that have been
left paying the price. It’s been exporters all across this province who have
been left paying the price.
It’s well past time that we need to lean
into building out the kind of transportation system that will serve us today
and well into the future, that will allow us to get our products to new markets
and to diversify those markets. So serious leaning into building rail and port
capacity, Mr. Speaker, as well as properly supporting shortlines in this
province who play an important role in this province and can play a larger role
when we look at some of the larger projects that could come online. As well as
building out the movement of our energy, the movement of that oil, getting it
to diversified markets, getting it to the
East Coast, the pipeline to the East, Mr. Speaker.
These are very important measures for
our economy and for the future. They’re important today, Mr. Speaker, because
the reality, you know, the reality even without all these trade challenges that
we’re facing right now is that our transportation system just hasn’t been up to
the challenge.
And you see it if you get a big crop
here in the province. You know, producers simply can’t get that product to
market in a timely way, and when they don’t, when the shippers don’t get that
grain to market, when those railcars don’t show up on time at the ports, it’s
producers who pay the price, Mr. Speaker. They’re charged demurrage, of course,
something we think that shouldn’t be allowed, but that’s the consequence. And
they’re stuck paying that bill as that train is moved or not moving that grain
to market. If that ship is there at the terminal and that product hasn’t gotten
to market on time, it’s the producer who actually pays the penalty, Mr.
Speaker.
I want to touch as well on just, you
know, the file. Something we’ve pushed for a long time, something that the
public is really calling for right now as well is that the lax approach to
enforcing The Farm Land Security Act doesn’t cut it. And you know, we’ve
given voice to this for a long time.
This is a government who has a law in
place, the farm land ownership. We have the Farm Land Security Board, who are
in such an important role and play such a vital role to all of this, but
they’ve been under-resourced and haven’t been provided the tools they need to
enforce this Act.
And the consequence of this is, you
know, the acquisition of . . . foreign, illegal acquisition of farm
land, Mr. Speaker. And you know, that’s not fair; that’s not right. It’s not in
the interests of local communities. It’s not in the interest of Saskatchewan
producers. It’s not fair to them, Mr. Speaker, to be competing with an illegal
purchase that brings in capital from other markets, Mr. Speaker, whether that
be China or whether that be the US, Mr. Speaker.
And it’s long past time that this
government act on this. We’ve been calling on them for well over a decade on
this front, Mr. Speaker. And there’s very common-sense measures. We’re going to
have more to bring on this. We’ve been doing a lot of work with producers on
this front. But you know, it’s something we’ve been calling for for years. It’s
having that statutory declaration of beneficial interest or ownership attached
to the land title, really is a critical piece to this. And we’ve been calling
for it for years. This government’s looked the other way. They’ve brought kid
gloves to this challenge. Meanwhile our agricultural landscape has had
significant change. And at the end of the day, if you’re going to have a law,
you need to enforce it. So this is what this government needs to figure out,
Mr. Speaker.
We’ve given voice as well of course
that, you know, it’s not in our interests to have this large consolidation,
anticompetitive consolidation, through the merger of American multinational
Bunge with Viterra, Mr. Speaker — headquartered here in Regina, an institution
in this province with grain-handling facilities and operations all across this
province. We know producers have been clear on this front, Mr. Speaker. And I
want to thank the producers of Saskatchewan, Sask Wheat, SaskBarley, all the
economists that have leaned into this, Mr. Speaker, the people of the province
who have assessed this and sized it up and said, yeah, no, this isn’t in our
interests.
It represents putting producers at a
competitive disadvantage around things like transportation and ports. It’s a
direct hit on farming, comes across Saskatchewan at a time where I can’t
imagine that we’d find that acceptable. And of course it puts at risk jobs here
in Regina, leadership, head office jobs in that awesome operation. I want to
give a shout-out to the awesome team that leads the way and all those that work
for Viterra, incredible leaders in this province, Mr. Speaker. And puts at risk
all the jobs all across Saskatchewan for grain handling, and puts canola crush
projects at risk and those jobs at risk at a time where we’ve got enough
pressures in the world coming at agriculture. I can’t imagine how a government
would think it’s acceptable to simply have a merger, that has these detrimental
impacts on our economy and producers, allowed.
But they’ve been missing in action from
the get-go on this, Mr. Speaker, completely silent. And, you know, we’ll
continue to call for them to find their feet, use their voice. But it’s getting
late, Mr. Speaker, because we’ve had the whole process with the Competition
Bureau and with Transport Canada, and these guys couldn’t find their feet,
couldn’t find their voice to stand up for our economy and for producers in the
province, Mr. Speaker.
With that being said, I know I’m mindful
of the time and that I’ve spoken a bit. I want to thank everyone that I get to
work with, all my colleagues on this side of the House, our leader, the serious
and caring ways that they approach their work. I want to thank members on the
other side. And I’m hopeful. I know this budget’s been, you know, kind of
jarring in the sense of just the disconnect and how divorced it is from reality
and the challenges we face. But you know, I hope that in the coming days we can
find some new approaches. I’ve found it disappointing that we couldn’t unite on
some of these very clear matters that are threats to our economy and to
producers and to workers and our industries. I hope to see change.
I know there’s lots of people I value
and enjoy over there, lots of new backbenchers that are just kind of finding
their feet. You know, I call on them to provide some of the leadership in that
caucus, to recognize who they represent, never be afraid to use their voice at
their caucus table with the cabinet, Mr. Speaker, if they’re sort of being
pushed back or marginalized or squashed in those conversations. Don’t let that
happen.
This is a very important time for our
province. And as often as we can, it’s in our interests to be able to work
forward in a constructive, unified way out of this Assembly. But, Mr. Speaker,
clearly we won’t be supporting a budget that fails to plan for the future,
that, you know, isn’t based in facts, that makes cuts in health and education.
And at this point in time, I’ll move a motion to this effect, Mr. Speaker.
My motion reads:
That all words
after “Assembly” be omitted and the following be inserted:
does not approve
the budgetary policy of the government because it proposes cuts to health care
and education while failing to respond to the threat and impact of tariffs,
including those by Donald Trump; and further,
That the Assembly
has lost confidence in the government.
So moved.
Speaker
Goudy: — It has been moved by the member from
Regina Mount Royal, seconded by the member from Regina South Albert:
That all the words
after “Assembly” be omitted and the following be inserted:
does not approve
the budgetary policy of the government because it proposes cuts to health care
and education while failing to respond to the threat and impacts of tariffs,
including those imposed by Donald Trump; and further,
That the Assembly
has lost confidence in the government.
Is
the Assembly ready for the question? I recognize the member from White City
. . . Oh, you’ll be seconding. Okay, I recognize the member from
White City-Qu’Appelle . . . [inaudible interjection] . . .
It has to be the seconder. I recognize the member from Regina South Albert.
Aleana Young: — Well thank you,
thank you very much, Mr. Speaker. I want to start by thanking you for that warm
welcome to this budget response debate. And recognizing the time, I just want
to take a minute — the last minute that I have — to thank all the folks who work
in this building. Everyone from the folks in the cafeteria to the building
staff to the wonderful folks at Hansard, as well as all of our staff on both
sides of this Assembly.
Our crew in opposition is absolutely
amazing. In our caucus office, we’re so lucky to be joined by some of the best
and brightest that Saskatchewan has. And I also want to recognize the staff who
work for members opposite. We do have the opportunity to work with your staff —
often through casework, work with your offices — and the support and the
relationships that we’re able to build as we’re advocating for real people in
Saskatchewan is truly appreciated. So my thanks to those staff as well.
Now, Mr. Speaker, I’d also like to take
a minute to thank my wonderful colleagues, many of whom are here for their
first budget response. I love budget day, Mr. Speaker. It’s one of my favourite
days in this House. The energy, just the presence of people as was spoken to
yesterday, the leaders from all over the province who come because they care
about this building, which truly is the people’s building. It’s a wonderful
day. I may have some differing thoughts on the budget itself. But I wanted to
thank my colleagues for what will be wonderful entries on the budget response
speech as we get into it over the next week.
Speaker
Goudy: — Well it now being 1:00 p.m., this
Assembly stands adjourned until Monday at 1:30. Thank you.
[The Assembly adjourned at 13:00.]
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